The Business

<p>Lively banter about entertainment industry news and in-depth interviews with directors, producers, writers and actors, hosted by award-winning journalist Kim Masters of The Hollywood Reporter.</p>

‘The Alabama Solution’ filmmakers on exposing America’s prison crisis

This week, Kim Masters talks with documentarians Andrew Jarecki and Charlotte Kaufman about their film The Alabama Solution. The filmmakers reveal how an invitation from an unwitting warden to film a religious revival at an Alabama prison opened the door to their investigation. They met desperate prisoners who shared allegations of abuse and even murder. The film includes evidence that the prisoners captured on their cell phones, which were smuggled in and sold to them by prison guards. Plus, after turning down Paramount’s latest buyout offer, Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav is teasing a Christmas announcement about the company’s future. With Comcast, Netflix, and Amazon rumored to be circling, questions over FCC approval and strategic stakes loom large. Kim Masters and Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw break down the latest in the Warner Bros. bidding war.

11-07
29:02

Brad Falchuk on life, death, and ‘Famous Last Words’

This week, Eric Deggans talks with Brad Falchuk about his Netflix series Famous Last Words. The longtime Ryan Murphy collaborator talks about adapting a Danish format built around deeply personal conversations that air only after the guests have died. He also explains why working with streamers isn’t so different from his days in cable television, and how living with dyslexia has made him a stronger writer and creative partner.   Plus, NBCUniversal has snatched up Taylor Sheridan from Paramount, marking the latest shift in Hollywood’s talent landscape. The Yellowstone creator will start a film deal at NBCU in 2026, with his TV projects following in 2029. His departure comes as Paramount faces layoffs and budget tightening under CEO David Ellison, who has spent heavily on sports and South Park rights since acquiring the media company. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni dig into how Sheridan’s exit has amplified the growing tension between creative power and studio belt-tightening.  

10-31
29:02

How would a Netflix-owned Warner Bros. operate?

Warner Bros. stock is up after CEO David Zaslav confirmed the company is on the market and open to offers. Following Netflix’s moderate Q3, dragged by an unexpected Brazilian tax hit, speculation is growing over the streamer’s possible interest in Warners. Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos has dismissed talk of buying legacy media networks, though the studio and streaming divisions may still be in play. Matt Belloni and Lucas Shaw break down why Netflix might consider a partial acquisition, and what it could mean for Hollywood. Plus, Kim Masters talks to Kelly Reichardt about her new film, The Mastermind. The veteran independent filmmaker recalls launching her career by partially financing her first film on credit cards and selling it to a reluctant distributor for a dollar. She shares how Todd Haynes urged her to teach at Bard College, and the years she spent juggling full-time teaching with summer shoots before shifting to part-time. Reichardt also explains why she still insists on theatrical releases especially since she, like other filmmakers, doesn’t care for the way her films look on TV.

10-24
29:02

Aziz Ansari on turning bad luck into 'Good Fortune'

This week, Kim Masters talks to Aziz Ansari about his directorial debut, Good Fortune. After his 2022 project Being Mortal was shut down following a misconduct complaint involving star Bill Murray, Ansari regrouped. He gathered cast members Seth Rogen and Keke Palmer for a new film and added Keanu Reeves to the mix. He’s filling us in on how he overcame production delays and Reeves’ on-set injury. Plus, he addresses his controversial appearance at the Riyadh Comedy Festival. Meanwhile, and also on the topic of accepting Saudi money, producer Erik Feig has raised roughly $1 billion for his new venture, SNK Studios — funded in part by Saudi Arabia’s crown prince Mohammed bin Salman. The move marks the latest bet on Hollywood by the kingdom and raises questions about the industry’s willingness to overlook human rights concerns in pursuit of capital. Partners in banter Kim Masters and Matt Belloni examine the ethics of doing business with regimes accused of human rights abuses.   

10-17
37:39

Noam Tibon on rescuing his family from Hamas in Barry Avrich’s ‘The Road Between Us’

This week, Kim Masters speaks with The Road Between Us director Barry Avrich and retired Israeli General Noam Tibon, the latter of whom drove straight into the October 7 massacre to rescue his family. Despite the third-rail nature of anything involving Israel and Gaza, the pair hopes that the documentary can be viewed as a story about family. But politics were inescapable — the film was pulled from the Toronto Film Festival, reinstated after protests, and then greeted with protests from the other side before going on to win the festival’s People’s Choice documentary prize. Plus, as predicted on recent episodes of The Business, Paramount has acquired The Free Press and hired founder Bari Weiss as editor-in-chief of CBS News. Partners in banter Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down the potential impact on news coverage at the network. 

10-10
29:46

A “Smashing” chat with Benny Safdie

This week, Kim Masters talks with Benny Safdie about The Smashing Machine, his first solo feature since parting ways with his longtime creative partner (and brother) Josh. He recalls the immediate spark he felt when Dwayne Johnson approached him to play UFC fighter Mark Kerr, and why the story fits his ongoing fascination with characters who don’t quite win. He also reflects on his biggest lessons gleaned while working as an actor for luminary filmmakers like Paul Thomas Anderson and Christopher Nolan. Speaking of Anderson, the director just scored a career high opening weekend with One Battle After Another. The film has earned universal acclaim among critics and an “A” CinemaScore, but with a reported budget of $140–160 million Warner Bros. faces a steep climb to profitability. After a run of surprise hits at the studio, does One Battle After Another carry more value as an awards contender and an “auteur-friendly” statement piece for CEO David Zaslav? Kim Masters and her partner in banter Matt Belloni investigate.

10-03
29:10

Mike Figgis on chronicling the chaos of ‘Megalopolis’

This week, Kim Masters talks to director Mike Figgis about Megadoc, his fly-on-the-wall chronicle of Francis Ford Coppola's self-financed $160 million dream project, Megalopolis. Figgis captures Coppola’s battles on set, including the turmoil that followed when the director’s improvisational style collided with the art department’s meticulous planning — a story Masters covered with her former colleagues at The Hollywood Reporter. Figgis was there to immortalize it all as it unfolded.    Plus, Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late-night (in most markets) was greeted with strong ratings and warm audience reactions. But behind the scenes, the decision to put him on indefinite leave has become another headache for Bob Iger. The Disney CEO, already navigating a difficult chapter, now faces questions about whether the move could leave a lasting mark on his legacy. Kim Masters and her partner in Banter Matt Belloni weigh in on the fallout — including what it might mean for his heir-apparent Dana Walden.  

09-26
40:08

How affiliate pressure and FCC rhetoric put Kimmel on ice

ABC has indefinitely suspended Jimmy Kimmel Live! following pressure from Nexstar and Sinclair, which own affiliated stations across the country. The move comes after Kimmel’s recent monologue about the assassination of Charlie Kirk prompted FCC Chairman Brendan Carr to issue a warning to Disney regarding the late-night host’s presence on ABC. What’s next for Kimmel and how has the industry responded to the suspension? Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down the unfolding story.  Plus, we revisit Masters’s conversation with recent Emmy-winner Matt Wolf, director of Pee-wee as Himself. The HBO documentary draws from more than 40 hours of interviews with the late actor Paul Reubens, and Wolf explains how his interest in overlooked artists and forgotten stories led to his portrait of the man behind Pee-wee Herman. He also talks about the actor’s struggle with his sexuality and reveals why HBO pushed for a two-part series to tell the late actor’s story.

09-19
28:31

THR’s Executive Awards Editor shares Emmy predictions

The 77th annual Emmy Awards will air this Sunday night (Sept. 14) on CBS and Paramount+ — hosted by a first-timer, comedian Nate Bargatze. Kim Masters is joined by Scott Feinberg, Executive Awards Editor for The Hollywood Reporter, and they’re making predictions.  Plus, money wins? Masters and her partner in Banter Matt Belloni unpack the latest Murdoch family lawsuit… And the increasing possibility of a Paramount Skydance purchase of Warner Bros. Discovery.  

09-12
28:32

Runway founder Cristóbal Valenzuela wants Hollywood to embrace AI

At 84, veteran mogul John Malone is still a power broker, hinting at “further consolidation in the media industry” following a recent sit down with David Ellison. Should we be on the lookout for a Warner–Paramount merger? Meanwhile in Vegas, the Sphere’s $100 million Wizard of Oz reimagining leans on AI to expand the visuals and even slip in cameos of David Zaslav and James Dolan. The Directors Guild did not take kindly to the stunt. Partners in Banter Kim Masters and Matt Belloni pull back the curtain on the Sphere's Emerald City sideshow.   Plus, Masters speaks with Runway co-founder Cristóbal Valenzuela about the role of artificial intelligence in Hollywood. The Chilean-born developer acknowledges that AI may lead to some job losses, but he argues it will ultimately benefit filmmakers. He explains why studios including Lionsgate, Netflix, and Disney are already using Runway’s tools. Plus, he compares the current backlash against AI to the upheaval that followed the introduction of sound in film.  

09-05
28:31

‘KPop Demon Hunters’ slays at the box office

It’s official, KPop Demon Hunters’ sing-along screenings were a resounding success. The film about a KPop girl group who also hunt… well, you know… became an immediate global phenomenon via streaming on Netflix when it was released in June. Now that the desire for communal experiences has been made abundantly clear, what will this mean for the franchise going forward? Kim Masters and her partner in Banter Matt Belloni get into it. Plus, in an encore conversation from January, Masters speaks to The Brutalist co-writer & director Brady Corbet and co-writer Mona Fastvold. The pair talk about the seven-year battle to get their post war epic to the big screen. They also explain their audacious decision to make a three and a half hour film with an intermission, share thoughts on the state of the country, and Corbet reveals his thoughts about Trump’s plans to demolish brutalist federal buildings.  P.S. Expect to hear much more from Fastvold as the current awards season shapes up, her forthcoming, Amanda Seyfried-led film The Testament of Ann Lee is sure to be on everybody’s lips.

08-29
29:04

‘Shrinking’ co-creator & star Jason Segel: Live From KCRW HQ

This week on a special episode of The Business, Kim Masters talks with Shrinking co-creator and star Jason Segel, recorded live at KCRW’s Annenberg Performance Studio. Segel looks back on highlights from Freaks and Geeks, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and The Muppets. He also discusses how Shrinking, now nominated for five Emmys, came together with co-creators Bill Lawrence and Brett Goldstein. Plus, after closing the $8 billion Paramount Global deal with David Ellison’s Skydance, Shari Redstone tells her story in a New York Times interview: boardroom drama, her doubts about the Ellisons, and the Trump settlement that cleared regulatory hurdles. Matt Belloni and Lucas Shaw dig in.

08-22
46:25

Paramount leadership announces a knockout deal for UFC rights

David Ellison’s Paramount is off to a loud start, rolling out a James Mangold/Timothée Chalamet crime drama and a $7.7 billion, seven year UFC deal. Will the studio’s bold strategies play out as intended? Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down Paramount’s next act. Plus, Masters talks to documentarian Petra Costa about Apocalypse in the Tropics, a follow-up to her Oscar-nominated 2019 film The Edge of Democracy. What started as a look at Brazil’s COVID response became an investigation into how religious fundamentalism, conspiracy theories and foreign influence have undermined democracy in her home country. She also recounts documenting the rise and fall of Jair Bolsonaro and the risks her crew faced while covering the country’s January 8th attempted coup.  

08-15
29:05

‘Severance’ cinematographer Jessica Lee Gagné talks moving into the director’s chair

This week, Kim Masters speaks to Severance director and cinematographer, Jessica Lee Gagné. The Quebecois filmmaker reflects on her collaboration with Severance executive producer Ben Stiller, which began on the Showtime limited series Escape at Dannemora. She discusses becoming the first woman to be Emmy-nominated in the same year for both cinematography and directing in a drama series, and the major leap of faith it took to transition from a successful career as a DP into the world of directing.  Plus, Disney is reshaping its sports strategy, launching a standalone ESPN app, and making billion-dollar deals with WWE and the NFL. Will the NFL's new stake in ESPN bring scrutiny from the Trump-led DOJ? Also, the Skydance-Paramount deal is done, and the Ellisons may have their sights set on Warner Bros. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break it all down.

08-08
29:01

‘Platonic’ creators Francesca Delbanco & Nick Stoller love it when you hate watch

Kim Masters speaks to Platonic co-creators Francesca Delbanco & Nicholas Stoller about what inspired their show about the comedy and complications of grown-up friendships. They talk about the challenge of writing characters—played by Rose Byrne and Seth Rogen—with none of the underlying sexual tension that has propelled so many television comedies to success. They also remember the time that Netflix boss Ted Sarandos sat through a lengthy table read of their first series, Friends from College.   Plus, as FCC Chairman Brendan Carr ramps up scrutiny of major media players, Comcast’s NBCUniversal appears to be his latest target. Is the company’s cable spinoff Versant a calculated play to dodge the Trump administration’s media witch hunt? Kim Masters and Lucas Shaw dig in.  

08-01
29:01

Will Paramount produce a PSA (or many) for the Trump admin?

[Editor’s note: this segment was taped before news broke of the FCC approval of the Paramount-Skydance merger.]   New details from the ongoing Paramount-Skydance merger reveal a $20 million agreement to deliver public service announcements for the Trump administration. And following from the cancellation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, CBS News braces for potential changes in leadership. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni dive into what’s unfolding behind the scenes. Plus, an encore of Eric Deggans’ conversation with Lauren LeFranc about her Emmy nominated HBO mini series, The Penguin. The writer discusses the challenges of adapting a well known comic book villain into a complex, three dimensional character and she shares why her perspective as a woman writing a show about a middle-aged crime boss makes for interesting storytelling. And of course, she talks about the joys of working with Colin Farrell, who is both the star of the show and an involved executive producer.

07-25
29:01

Barry Diller calls out studios for reckless misinformation

In the conclusion of Kim Masters’ two-part conversation with Barry Diller, the veteran businessman reflects on his time helping build Rupert Murdoch’s Fox empire. Diller also criticizes studios for spreading misinformation—citing Oliver Stone’s JFK in particular—and weighs in on the now-resolved Trump-Paramount dispute, and the prospect of a David Ellison-led studio. Plus, Paramount’s looming merger with Skydance has South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker lawyering up. The duo is eyeing legal action over billion-dollar licensing deals they claim are being undercut. At the center of it all: South Park’s future on Paramount+. New execs Jeff Shell and David Ellison are feeling the heat; Matt Belloni and Lucas Shaw are on hand to explain what’s at stake.

07-18
29:01

Hollywood legend Barry Diller opens up via ‘Who Knew?’

Kim Masters talks to Barry Diller about his memoir, Who Knew? The legendary studio exec reflects on his quick rise at ABC and how helped transform the third-ranked broadcast network into a force to be reckoned with. He also remembers a much happier time at Paramount, where he presided over a studio staffed with future industry stars. He also opens up about why none of his friends in the business are having much fun these days.   Plus, summer movie season is heating up, with F1, Jurassic World: Rebirth, and a highly anticipated Superman reboot staking their claims at the box office. But is there room left for Disney’s big bet with Fantastic Four: First Steps? Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down the wins and worries shaping Hollywood’s high-stakes summer.  

07-11
29:01

Larry Charles offers a glimpse into his storied career via new memoir ‘Comedy Samurai’

Kim Masters talks to writer & director Larry Charles about his new memoir Comedy Samurai. He shares stories about writing for Seinfeld, directing Curb Your Enthusiasm, and his chaotic experiences working with Sacha Baron Cohen on Borat and Bruno. Charles also tells the story of an early morning call from Ari Emanuel that pulled the plug on his Larry David documentary the day before its HBO premiere.   Also, it’s official: Paramount has settled with Donald Trump over a long-disputed 60 Minutes segment. The company agreed to pay $16 million, a move that could clear the path for David Ellison’s long-anticipated Skydance merger. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down what this means for Paramount’s future… and what an Ellison-led studio might look like.  

07-04
29:01

Food > fights: Phil Rosenthal on ‘Somebody Feed Phil’

Eric Deggans chats with veteran sitcom showrunner Phil Rosenthal about the current state of the industry. The creator of Everybody Loves Raymond and host of the unscripted Netflix series Somebody Feed Phil reflects on how studios shape viewership data to fit their narratives. Rosenthal recalls challenging flawed testing at CBS early in his career and he reflects on the success of Raymond. He also shares how he pitched his food and travel series as: “Anthony Bourdain if he was afraid of everything.”     But first, we banter! As the Donald Trump-Paramount Global lawsuit continues, a mediator has floated a proposed settlement: $20 million, including a $17 million donation to Trump’s presidential foundation, plus legal fees and anti-semitism PSAs. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni unpack the latest chapter in the president’s standoff with Shari Redstone.  

06-27
29:01

Strobe

My fav show

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Erik L

What a great episode! 😁 More mega banter please!

12-26 Reply

Strobe

My favorite podcast. Kim Masters is such a delight to listen to.

04-18 Reply

InverDarr

Initial 8 minutes of utter gibberish.

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