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The CEO’s Guide to Marketing offers a no-nonsense take on the business of marketing and the marketing of business. Hosted by Seth Matlins, Managing Director of the Forbes CMO Network, this series provides a master class in raising the C-suite's marketing IQ through candid conversations with renowned marketers and executives.
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In this episode Mark and I talk about the evolution of one of the quintessential brand battles in marketing history, why word-of-mouth is the original algorithm, and his framework for deciding when to extend a brand into a new category or build a new one for new tastes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode Micky, the one-time CEO of Bonobos, and I talk about her experiences on both sides of what’s all too-often a divide, what’s missing in the CEO/CMO conversation, and why company culture should be seen as a pre-requisite for growth.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Colin and I talk about why he drove a strategic shift from product-led marketing to brand-led, the end of the funnel, what all marketing—and buying—has in common, and how simplicity can help anchor marketing in times of great complexity.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this conversation, Kelsey and Shelley unpack McKinsey’s latest research into the CEO and CMO relationship which at the risk of giving away the punchline isn’t that good. We get into and underneath the numbers and the broader and bottom-line implications on growth that they illustrate. (Look for their full report here: The CMO’s comeback: Aligning the C-suite to drive customer-centric growth)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this conversation with Esi, we covered a lot of ground but kept coming back to some fundamental truths about desire, reach, engagement, and conversion. Esi’s been a CEO, GM and President and she brings all that and more to our conversation and everything she does as a marketing and growth leader.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this conversation I sit with Cannes Lions CeO Simon Cook, to talk about what we both heard at the Festival’s inaugural Global CEO Forum, which I moderated and facilitated. Some 50 CEO’s from around the world took part (Under The Chatham House Rule), and in this episode Simon and I explore what we heard from them, creativity as a financial engine, and why CEOs who don’t embrace it may be quietly choosing stagnation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode I talk with Meta’s CMO and VP Analytics Alex Schultz, whose work has probably influenced the work of more marketers than just about anyone else’s over the past decade. Besides correcting my misperception about the origins of the “performance marketing” phrase, Alex explains why he thinks performance marketing should die, driving change, the value of full funnel approaches, and how to properly evaluate that which can’t be measured among other things.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode I talk with Rare Beauty CMO Katie Welch about CEO’s who give CMOs the permission to do what they do best, the lessons beauty-category marketing has for others, and why you have to avoid “tactic soup.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
When I first heard Tomás speak at a conference about problem-solving and attribution, I knew I wanted to have him on the show. In this conversation, we talk about marketing's deep hunger for actual solutions, the cost of vanity metrics, and among other things, the difference between certainty and statistics.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this bonus episode, the tables turn and Seth goes from interviewer to interviewee as he sits with Jon Evans, on his Uncensored CMO podcast.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode I talk with Hasbro‘s first-ever CMO Jason Bunge about working with the c-suite to build marketing capabilities in a 104-year-old-company, the different strategic roles marketing plays across different parts of the business, and the possibilities that can live within constraints.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, I talk with Tim about creative courage, marketing to and with the Commissioner and owners, and how to both focus on and transcend the game. Note:In the episode, Tim tells us the story of how Volkswagen’s 2011 Super Bowl ad, Darth Vader, came to be. And how it almost didn’t. See the spot that’s been credited with changing Super Bowl advertising here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpL_DcT6ko8See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, I talk with Jonny Bauer about his thesis on enterprise value creation, one formed by his years as Droga5’s Chief Strategy Officer and Blackstone’s Global Head of Brand Strategy and Transformation. Now, the founder and CEO of Fundamentalco, Jonny’s insights into the upstream role of brand in driving business strategy and not just downstream marketing outputs are well worth every CEO, CFO and Board considering.In the episode, Jonny refers to one of the earliest pieces of work to come from then new agency, Droga5. The 2006 spot for streetwear brand ECKO is known as “Tagging Air Force One.” See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0iSJQLfJ4See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, I sit down with Linda Boff, now CEO of Said Differently, and the long-time CMO of GE. I wanted to talk with Linda about her experience working with three different CEOs (at GE alone), humanizing an industrial monolith, and her legacy of firsts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Seth sits down with Walmart CMO, William White, to talk about the commercial value of brands even when you’re selling every-day-low-prices, how every touchpoint connects—or doesn’t, and using the emotional to drive the transactional.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Seth sits with Antonio Lucio, Chief Marketing and Corporate Affairs Officer at HP, to talk about Antonio’s advice to CEOs and CMOs, what marketing is in service to, the consequences of isolating and not integrating marketing, and pitching an idea to Mark Zuckerberg.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Seth sits with Calvin Klein CMO Jonathan Bottomley to talk about lessons learned from—and applied outside—luxury; the important distinction between overthinking and overcomplicating, and the way ideas travel.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this conversation, Seth and Chime CMO Vineet Mehra talked about the CAC (customer acquisition cost) valley of death, explaining unit economic payback, and how a CFO’s willingness to invest money—especially when they don’t understand the consequences of not investing it—can effect growth for good or ill.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Seth talks with Frank Cooper, who has been the CMO at Visa, Blackstone, and Buzzfeed about causation, correlation and dispelling the myth that marketing doesn’t drive commercial outcomes.Here's a link to the article mentioned around 3:40: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethmatlins/2024/12/16/marketing-that-fails-to-consider-the-human-context-is-out-of-context/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
For this conversation, Seth sits with Ally Financial’s Chief Marketing and PR Officer Andrea Brimmer for a wide-ranging conversation about what can either facilitate or get in the way of marketing’s role in value creation, the false narrative that’s been painted of CMO tenure specifically and the CMO generally, and the relentless pace of change—cultural and otherwise—today’s marketers are supposed to keep up with. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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