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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business.

Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more.

For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episode transcripts and podcast show notes, go to https://careynieuwhof.com/.
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Carey answers your questions about whether there are limits to church growth, what to do if your elders try to micromanage you, and how to know who to fire and how to do it. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   UPWARD SPORTS By offering an intentional outreach ministry like Upward Sports you can engage families around your church and build relationships. Visit http://Upward.org/Carey     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network  
Patria Lead Pastor Adam Mesa shares how viral podcasting helped grow his church from 1,100 to 7,500+ in five years, his experience as a millennial taking over leadership from his dad, and navigating the strengths and challenges of ADHD.   🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   BELAY Download BELAY’s free guide today: 5 Blind Spots That Sink Your Leadership. With this resource, you’ll learn how to navigate these leadership landmines with strength and confidence. Text the word CAREY to 55123 for your free download.   GLOO+ With the New Mover Program in Gloo+, you can automatically send personalized postcards to new families in your area every month—no printing, no postage, no hassle. Visit gloo.com/plus to activate the New Mover Program and start welcoming your new neighbors today!     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network  
Ryan Leak has become one of the most sought-after preachers and leadership speakers today. He explains why he prepares for a three-minute offering talk the same way he preps for a leadership talk to a Fortune 100 company. He also explains what to do to connect with and leave a positive impression with your leadership heroes. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   STATE OF THE CHURCH The Church Health dashboard takes the guesswork out of important ministry decisions. In minutes, you hear directly from your people on how they are doing and the insights you get are incredibly helpful. Visit https://stateofthechurch.com/carey COMPASSION As a pastor, I desire all people to accept God’s compassion towards us and to live a full life of gospel-driven impact as a result. If you also desire this, I encourage you to visit my friends at Compassion International and begin learning how YOU can grow YOUR compassion today. Find out more at www.compassion.com/carey.     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network  
Organizational consultant Andrew Mellen returns to the podcast to discuss the three rules he uses to help leaders organize their work and home life for mental clarity. Plus, why clutter is deferred decision making, and why you should never email a co-worker.  🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE CHURCH NETWORK Feeling overwhelmed in church operations? You’re not alone. Learn more and register today at thechurchnetwork.com/Conference. SUBSPLASH Go to subsplash.com/carey to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save $500 when you sign up. CHURCH.TECH Head to ai.church.tech and use the promo code CAREY and receive your first month for FREE.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Real estate mogul Mark Faris talks about going from being cut from professional hockey to becoming the #1 real estate agent and company in the nation. He explains what it took to become #1 in his field, how to break through leadership ceilings, and what every leader can learn to keep growing and improving. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   VISITORREACH VisitorReach is an all-in-one platform to help churches grow. Churches that partner with VisitorReach connect with 20 to 120 new people each month and see new visitors walking through their doors weekly! Learn more today at VisitorReach.com/Carey!   GLOO Every month, Gloo+ allows you to send up to 50 personalized postcards to new residents in your area—welcoming them, inviting them to service, and making your church their new home. Visit http://gloo.com/plus and start welcoming new families today!     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
John Eldredge asks whether 30 is too young to be a lead pastor (and what to do if you're in your 20s or 30s and leading a large church). He also talks about finding spiritual authority and the stages every man goes through in life, from warrior to king to sage. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   COMPASSION Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world. http://www.compassion.com/carey STATE OF THE CHURCH Access the latest research being released about the church. Go to stateofthechurch.com/carey.     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Levi Lusko opens up about navigating a mid-life crisis in ministry at 38 and identifying wounds that become a ticking time bomb. Plus, Levi and Carey explore the mixed motives and gifting of preachers. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   COMPASSION Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world. http://www.compassion.com/carey       Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Carey Nieuwhof takes the top questions young leaders submitted about ambition and how it works for and against you. Plus, he discusses media consumption habits, being a 'professional" Christian because you work on staff, and how to fire people (well).  🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO INSIGHTS Track attendance, giving, salvations, and volunteers in real-time. Compare numbers year-over-year, across campuses, or even against national trends. https://gloo.com/insights     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Glenn Packiam talks about how to pastor in an age where no one trusts pastors, the church leader mental health crisis (especially among next-gen leaders), and the difference between being weary and being wounded in leadership.   🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO AI Train Gloo AI on your church’s own documents, policies, and beliefs—so your team and congregation get trustworthy, on-brand answers instantly. Go to https://ai.gloo.com/   BELAY Download BELAY’s free guide to delegation today: 25 Things to Stop Doing in 2025.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
In an incredibly candid conversation, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons open up about their 28-year marriage. They discuss how they fight about everything, sex, navigating two careers, parenting, and how, despite all the very real challenges, they've made it through. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF PREACHING BREAKTHROUGH GUARANTEE Until April 11th, I'm offering a Preaching Breakthrough Guarantee with my course, The Art of Preaching. If you don't see a difference in your preaching, just email me by August 31st for a complete and immediate refund.   SUBSPLASH Go to subsplash.com/carey to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save $500 when you sign up.   CHURCH.TECH CHURCH.tech AI is completely customizable to your church.  Go to CHURCH.tech and enter the promo code CAREY at checkout for 25% off for the first 3 months.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Mark Sayers brings astonishing insight to the rapid cultural, economic, and political change we're seeing right now in America and globally. Carey and Mark cover why woke broke, the massive upheaval of the status quo being ushered by Trump and his cadre, and how to find hope for the church in the new global chaos. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO FEED Text 'carey' to 46816   THE CHOSEN The Chosen: Last Supper is in theaters now, and it’s the must-see event of the Easter season.  Grab your tickets for all three parts today at TheChosenLastSupper.com   TENX10 Access your free NextGen Simple Mentoring toolkit. Head over to simplementoring.org today and download the Simple Mentoring Jumpstart for Senior Pastors.   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
In this episode, Kara Powell discusses why teens and young adults don't trust the church. Plus, Carey and Kara talk about why young women are dropping out of church, why young men are leaning in, and the keys to reaching Gen Z and Gen Alpha. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO Easter is the most attended Sunday of the year—and it’s less than 3 weeks away. Are you ready to connect with every visitor who walks through your doors? Get Gloo Messaging set up TODAY so you’re ready to connect when it matters most. Sign up for free at gloo.us/messaging.   THE CHOSEN The Chosen: Last Supper is in theaters now, and it’s the must-see event of the Easter season.  Grab your tickets for all three parts today at TheChosenLastSupper.com   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Warren Bird and Adelle Banks share data and case studies on what you need to do to make your church future-ready and to experience church growth. Plus, they go deep on what happens when Christians become the minority in the US and the surprising reasons people give for not attending church.   🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   STATE OF THE CHURCH Check out the latest research about the Church in the United States. Just go to StateofTheChurch.com/carey. BELAY For over a decade, BELAY has matched busy leaders like you with the support they need to start delegating. Download BELAY’s free guide to delegation today: 25 Things to Stop Doing in 2025.   STUDIOC Take StudioC's Member Engagement Assessment to see how you can engage your people better. Take the free assessment today at thestudioc.org/carey   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Does character even matter anymore for Christians? If you look at the moral failure happening among pastors and the current culture politically, you'd think not. But the truth is your character matters far more than you think, and it's what the next generation is looking for. In this episode, Carey explores the critical role of character in leadership, especially within Christian ministry. Carey debunks three dangerous myths about character and competence, emphasizing that character is essential for effective leadership. Plus, he shares personal insights and stresses that character impacts relationships, legacy, and overall leadership effectiveness. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO Gloo gives you 10,000 free texts every month—no cost, no catch.  Sign up today at gloo.us/messaging and make this Easter your most impactful one yet!   CHURCH.TECH Interactive Clips by CHURCH.tech pauses during the video to ask devotional questions, inviting you to reflect on what you’ve just heard. And here’s the kicker: based on your responses, it creates a personalized next step, help you become who God created and designed you to be. Go to clips.tech now and join the waitlist!   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Mark Batterson unpacks the funding and church planting strategy of National Community Church. He shares how NCC went from 29 people to owning coffee houses and city blocks in one of America's most expensive real estate markets. We also discuss the truth of how 'success' goes from gradual to sudden. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF LEADERSHIP LIVE Super early bird pricing is available for another week, so don’t wait—visit theartofleadershiplive.com to grab your spot today.   GLOO Get your FREE State of the Church tools at Gloo. Go to stateofthechurch.com to get your free kit, and light up your own church health dashboard today.   TENX10 I’m excited about Future-Focused Church, a new book by Kara Powell, Jake Mulder, and Raymond Chang. Their team at the Fuller Youth Institute has helped over 1,000 churches navigate change over the past decade, and this book is packed with tested strategies to help you do the same   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
In this live interview, Annie F. Downs returns to the podcast and explains what most churches are missing in ministry. Plus, she discusses the most overlooked group in your church, how to connect them, and the power of human connection on and offline. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF LEADERSHIP LIVE Super early bird pricing is available for another week, so don’t wait—visit theartofleadershiplive.com to grab your spot today.   GLOO+ With Gloo+, you get premium texting with unlimited messages and groups, exclusive access to top ministry influencers, and unbeatable deals on must-have church resources. Use code CAREYSAVE20 for an EXTRA 20% off at gloo.us/plus    THE CHURCH NETWORK Experience the training and community you need to be a confident church operations leader. Get more information and register today at thechurchnetwork.com/Conference   Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Mart Green joins the podcast to share how his retail book chain stayed profitable and growing in the face of the rise of Amazon, defying the odds. Plus, Mart explains Hobby Lobby's Green Family's inner workings and how he navigated the critical reaction to the He Gets Us campaign. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   GLOO How do you know if your ministry is growing and thriving? Visit gloo.us/insights to unlock valuable insights today!   UPWARD SPORTS Upward Sports equips churches to run self-sustaining sports ministries in their communities. Learn more at Upward.org/Carey   ECFA ECFA’s new Leadership Standard is about creating a culture where boards proactively care for their senior leaders—supporting their well-being and integrity in Christ, not just as leaders, but as whole people. Learn more about Leader Care at ECFA.org/LeadershipStandard     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Surprise. The New Atheism of people like Dawkins, Hitchins, and Sam Harris has lost favor over the last few years. Podcaster and author Justin Brierley discusses why New Atheism isn't resonating anymore, the openness of thinkers like Jordan Peterson, and how to have conversations with spiritually open people.  🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF LEADERSHIP LIVE Super early bird pricing is available for only a couple more weeks, so don’t wait—visit theartofleadershiplive.com to grab your spot today.   SUBSPLASH Go to subsplash.com/carey to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save 30% on your platform subscription and set up when you sign up with Subsplash as your exclusive giving provider.   GLOO Texting is one of the fastest, easiest, and most effective ways to connect with people right where they are—on their phones. Sign up today at gloo.us/messaging and make this Easter the most impactful one yet!     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Mark Clark talks about the difference between preaching to a pre-Christian and post-Christian culture and how to do both effectively so that you can reach people and grow your church. Plus, Mark and Carey discuss how to leverage your unique gifting and quirks. Mark shares how he's learned to preach and lead with Tourettes Syndrome and OCD. And he discusses how to solve the problem of life for an anxious generation. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF REACHING COURSE In The Art of Reaching—my course with Mark Clark—you get practical strategies, insights, and lessons to reach more unchurched people.   STATE OF THE CHURCH I’ll be co-hosting the State of the Church event alongside Nona Jones; with presentations by David Kinnaman, Ed Stetzer, and stories from pastors you need to know.  It’s all happening March 12 at 1pm Eastern, 10am Pacific. Visit stateofthechurch.com to sign up and take part in shaping the future of your church     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
Christian Apologist Wesley Huff recently debated Billy Carson, which led to an appearance on the Joe Rogan Show. In both cases, Wes demonstrated a powerful approach to apologetics. In this episode, Carey outlines four best practices Wes embodied and offers five takeaways for every leader looking to engage the culture in conversations about Christianity. 🔗   Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork   THE ART OF REACHING COURSE In The Art of Reaching—my course with Mark Clark—you get practical strategies, insights, and lessons to reach more unchurched people.   STATE OF THE CHURCH I’ll be co-hosting the State of the Church event alongside Nona Jones; with presentations by David Kinnaman, Ed Stetzer, and stories from pastors you need to know.  It’s all happening March 12 at 1pm Eastern, 10am Pacific. Visit stateofthechurch.com to sign up and take part in shaping the future of your church     Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network
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Comments (27)

Daniel Fietje

love Mark Sayers. Thanks for highlighting him.

Sep 13th
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Langston J

I love the rich, honest, long form conversations on this podcast. I'm neither a pastor nor do I work in the church, but as a young christian (26) the conversations on here have been so helpful. thank you so much!

Jan 23rd
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Robb Clanton

You can tell the truth without love but you cannot love without telling the truth.

May 31st
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Paul Loeffler

A come down day sounds phenomenal... until you're working two jobs, and struggling to find a sabbath each week.

May 13th
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James Woodwillow

Carey Nieuwhof: another Joel Osteen type pastor that dropped the Gospel for self help many years ago.

Oct 25th
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Paul Loeffler

Between the 17 and 23 min mark, Louie talks about how he feels about online church vs in-person church, and does a great job of expressing it. What I appreciated also, though, was Cary's respectful response. My experience listening to Cary is that he disagrees strongly with Louie about the importance of online church, yet he didn't push back at all, despite this being his podcast. He allowed Louie to have - and espouse - a completely different view, and I appreciated that. To be clear, Cary agrees whole-heartedly with Louie's view on in-person church. He just has a different perspective on on-line church.

Sep 4th
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Graham Behnke

This was incredible

Jun 9th
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Brandon Kyle

After listening to the wonderful conversation, in an alternate universe Adam's book "think again" might be "Repent" :), looking forward to catching up on the backlog, -pastor in The Salvation Army

Mar 31st
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Randy House

nice podcast.... haven't tried Chick-fil-A.. if you're in Toronto thinking about it..

Jun 13th
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Randy House

partnership

Apr 29th
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Randy House

humble and transparent is the key.. which leads to authenticity

Apr 29th
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Randy House

faithfulness is rewarded..

Apr 29th
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Randy House

thanks 😊 Carey

Apr 29th
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Randy House

love Mike

Apr 28th
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Dhany Hariman

This is an amazing Podcast. It really helps me in developing my leadership skills and make me a better person. Thank you so much Carey

Dec 21st
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Isaac Thomas

thank god for podcast

Oct 7th
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Richard

5:52

Jun 20th
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Shaquanna Brown

This was an excellent podcast. Thank you Carey and Kadi!

May 16th
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Ryan Ayres

Catalyst conference 2016 Andy Stanley

Mar 20th
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Binny Thomas

I love your Podcasts..Its really heplful..

Mar 12th
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