The Cave of Apelles

Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Biggest takeaways so far 05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm 08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts 10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“ 12:12 Art as religion 19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes 24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom 27:29 “The descent of the artisan“ 34:41 Architecture: art or craft…? 41:49 The term “disinterestedness“ 45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“ 48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat? 55:40 Modernism 1890-1930 1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles 1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“ 1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division 1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative? 1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Dr. Nir Buras is a leading new traditional architect and urbanist, founder of the Classic Planning Institute, and author of The Art of Classic Planning. He designs towns, cities and buildings, and speaks about some of the most interesting developments in the world of architecture and planning and where we might find ourselves in the future. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Buras & the Classic Planning Institute (CPI) 04:43 Projects and subdivisions of CPI 09:02 CPI's partners, seminars and live events 11:00 Horseshit, conflict and modern city planning 15:07 Cars and modern city planning 19:01 Three scenarios for our cities 22:33 The "Golden Age" in all cultures 26:01 What is wrong with the modern city 37:46 A holistic vs problem solving method 48:20 Place making is memory-making 57:22 Can a city have cars in it? 1:06:43 Traffic in Rome, Rio de Janeiro and New York 1:10:23 Town and country 1:14:41 CPI and the Anacostia River Masterplan 1:24:45 The impact of using hands on the brain 1:29:35 An eight generations horizon 1:32:10 Olympic Games for handcraft 1:35:24 The Anacostia project and Paris' Île de la Cité 1:42:03 Daniel Burnham: “Make no small plans” 1:46:28 Burnham's six categories for town planning 1:51:55 The symbolism of where you place buildings 1:58:50 Getting cars off the streets 1: 01:42 The future of modernism is classical This episode featured Dr. Nir Buras & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a photograph of the Anacostia Riverfront render design by Dr. Buras & The Classic Planning Institute. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jon White from the Crecganford YouTube-channel and Sturla Ellingvåg from the Viking Stories YouTube-channel to discuss the nature of myths. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Thinking a-historically 03:33 From ritual to listening 08:48 Replacing pagan holidays and rituals 15:39 Changes in myths 22:26 Tactius' Germania, the Poetic Edda and the Kalevala 26:19 Sacred truths make stories last 33:14 Cut off from your traditions 39:28 Looking at history as a whole 44:17 A perfect product for corporate business? 48:36 Picking the shiny thing 52:32 Back to basic human stories 57:36 Participating in the story 1:02:58 Do what has worked before 1:05:46 Irony in eternal stories 1:07:18 Society after the cyclical disasters 1:13:18 Agriculture gives us cyclical myths 1:19:40 Recurring themes in myth This episode featured Jon F. White, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sturla Ellingvåg and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jon White has studied Indo-European mythology for more than thirty years, particularly focusing on cosmogony and creation myths. As an independent researcher and lecturer, he shares this knowledge on his YouTube-channel @Crecganford . Mr. White visits Cave of Apelles to detail the major motifs or "mythologems" of the Indo-European mythological tradition and what they denote. Considering that the Indo-Europeans lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppes about 7000 years ago, how did their stories spread to ancient India, Persia, Rome or Norse Scandinavia - changing, yet still retaining their core? Combining the study of myths with fields like linguistics, archeology and etymology Mr. White will unravel cross-cultural similarities in stories like The Cosmic Twins, Defeating the dragon, The cattle raiding myth and The wild hunt. He will also share his ideas on how we best are to understand myths. Are they projections of the human psyche, the condensed ethos of a culture or symbolic manifestations of natural and cultural history? More intriguing still: is the presence of myths and archetypal images particular to Homo sapiens or have they been transferred between human species? 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Intro 01:27 Who is Jon White? 04:21 Defining “myth" 11:57 The Indo-European creation myth and sacrifice of the cow 19:22 Who were the Indo-Europeans? 24:06 The academic study of myths 30:18 Cattle, three-headed monsters and Twins of creation 37:36 “Fame does not decay” - the magic of writing 41:00 Over 70 000 years of fighting the dragon 45:59 From cows to women - the problem of translation 50:27 The veracity of the poetic and prose Edda 56:27 The divine twins vs the creation twins 1:00:11 Defining “archetype” 1:04:31 What is NOT Indo-European? 1:06:25 Mythology and mindset 1:08:29 Inuit myths, and stars as protagonists 1:13:41 Ways of understanding myth 1:16:51 Polytheist vs monotheist worldviews? 1:21:25 Myths as projection of the human psyche? 1:31:39 Myths as condensed images 1:34:17 Pre-human myths? This episode featured Jon F. White & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of "Sleeping Twins" by Odd Nerdrum. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

What happened in the cultural life in 19th century France that lead to the rise of avant-garde art in America? Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Michael Pearce to review his book Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde. The book is available here: https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-9411-1 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ 00:00 "Bohemian" and irresponsible? 03:16 The origin of "Bohemian" 06:47 Courbet - an old-master "modernist" 09:10 Courbet's loyalty to the time 15:48 Science and industrialization killed poetry 18:40 Proudhon, and the marriage of art and socialism 23:12 Courbet's attack on classical values 29:33 Victor Hugo: the sublime, sensual and sentimental 36:15 A Bohemian, ludicrous way of dying 39:36 Theophile Gautier's l'Art pour l'Art, psychedelics, spiritism and theosophy 42:47 Zola: modernist or classical? 48:26 Manet, the father of avant-garde modern art 54:10 Zola's "hour of demolition" 1:00:40 The Hippie movement 1:03:51 How to be a REAL Bohemian 1:07:50 Zola's isolated artists 1:13:58 Myths: the core classical value 1:16:19 The coquette Romantic? This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Michael Pearce is a writer, painter, teacher and curator, as well as the founder of The Representational Art Conference (TRAC). His book "Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde" uncovers one thing Lenin, Hitler and Roosevelt had in common: A keen eye for art as state propaganda. Avoiding the old-fashioned vs modern dichotomy, Pearce shows the cultural historical roots of employing both figurative and abstract painting to further political correctness. Pearce traces it back to 19th century socialist thinking, and goes in-depth on the ideas of philosophers like Proudhon and Saint-Simon, as well as the protests of Emile Zola. First and foremost, however, he shows how the the American government and a few wealthy families made Avant-garde art into the preferred art form of the 20th century, casting it as the antidote to the sentimentality of kitsch. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Intro 01:32 Understanding Kitsch and the Avant-Garde 05:01 Who is Michael Pearce? 08:06 The proto-Communist Avant-Garde 12:47 Proudhon's authoritarian state art 16:22 Proudhon on Courbet and aesthetic ideals 22:02 Courbet, Repin, and Russian realism 23:25 The Bohemian Avant-Garde 26:00 Emile Zola's individualism vs Proudhon 29:59 Capturing the Zeitgeist 33:50 The battle between Avant-Gardes in Soviet Russia 41:49 An individualist Avant-Garde? 42:43 Socialist Realism in the USSR and the USSA 45:36 Nazi art vs Roosevelt's path 47:46 Socialism and the art of the enemy 50:20 Hitler's qualities as a painter 52:19 Degenerate Art and House of German Art 57:25 The sentimental art of the enemy 59:45 The propagandist Nelson Rockefeller 1:02:24 The figurative/kitsch/Hitler connection 1:06:37 Greenberg's essay Avant-Garde and Kitsch 1:11:37 Nazi art: kitsch or bona fide modernism? 1:20:11 Primitive American art as the mother of modernism 1:26:33 Roosevelt & the marriage of USSA and MoMA 1:30:04 The current situation in the art world 1:35:56 The American illustration tradition and escapism 1:38:37 Fergus Ryan: What is "Imaginative realism"? 1:40:37 Fergus Ryan:: What is "emergence" in painting? 1:43:59 Question: Is there a refuge for the human spirit? This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of Courbets painting of Proudhon and his children. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology. Ellingvåg is the historian behind the YouTube-channel Viking Stories . He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXjioACKt8 We have previously released an interview with Ellingvåg on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeje-6fYmw 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Bridges, wells and guardians 02:04 Shamanic journey and disentanglement 08:40 Wisdom literature 11:10 Struggles and Loki as hero 17:25 Gods exposed to laws of nature 20:34 Odin: ferryman or Attila the Hun? 26:58 Odin & The spear dancer 30:00 Was Odin crucified or hanged? 32:40 What the next Ragnarök will look like 42:37 The 4.2k event 43:56 Religion and more totalitarian societies 45:54 Will your work survive future regimes? Bulgakov and Solzhenitsyn 51:39 The optimism of the Poetic Edda This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Seth Fite is a classical painter born in England, who grew up in the United States. From the new world, he is inspired by American Golden Age illustrators, Andrew and N. C. Wyeth, and the Cincinnati master Frank Duveneck. From the old world, he has studied masters such as Rembrandt and Velasquez. In 2019 he was a student of Odd Nerdrum. Fite has been told to "find his own voice" and "do something new", as well as other clichés, but he sees little use of this. He strives to strike the vulnerable spot of humankind, the same spot found by masters before him. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Intro 01:49 Illustration and old masters 06:28 The spirit of Andrew Wyeth 11:22 Getting to know the model 15:36 "Make the eyes more sad" 22:14 Painting from memory 27:09 Andrew Wyeth's status today 30:07 The Bible, and finding the divine in things 35:43 Painting biblical motifs 40:32 Comparing Kierkegaard and Nerdrum 45:48 Reflecting the times is superficial 50:47 Nerdrum destroyed the "Art" word for me 53:17 "Sincere", "true" and "genuine"? 57:30 Joy in recognition 1:06:48 Beauty brings melancholy 1:12:32 Andrew Wyeth's popularity in the East 1:16:12 Something "below" or "behind" the motif? 1:20:07 Stuck in ancient problems This episode featured Seth Fite & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The wall featured two paintings by Seth Fite. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology. Ellingvåg is the historian behind @VikingStories . He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows. Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY We have previously released an interview with Ellingvåg on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeje-6fYmw 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ 00:00 Norse creation myths 04:33 Attacking sacred trees: Yggdrasil & Irminsul 14:23 Ragnarok - the world ending is not the end of the world 18:26 "Asia Men" & the Germanic world view 23:09 Odin's wisdom & travels to the underworld 29:18 Wells, bridges, the number nine & Saros' cycles 37:40 Did "Hyperboreans" teach the Greeks? 46:11 Scandinavia, Greece and tripping reindeer 49:50 Fighting and dancing to acquire wisdom 53:25 Inuit & Sami stories: helping spirits and singing 58:05 Dancing, fasting and being more dead than alive 1:05:37 Odin's words to his dead son This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The 22 year old playwright Henrik Knightingale has just released his debut play In His Own Shadow. The play is set 150 years into the future, where a miracle happens: a new theater play is produced - and it is actually good! Can stories about love restore our faith in existence? Knightingale sits down to talk about the craft of writing a story, how he overcomes the challenges of writing, and how he "kills his darlings". Putting his own play in context, he will also discuss the authors who spur him in his own writing, taking a look at the structure of Antigone and Cyrano de Bergerac. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00: Intro 01:14 Learning how to essentialize 04:03 Sense of Life 06:16 Knightingale's play In His Own Shadow 11:45 The Shakespeare/Bacon theory 14:00 Questions unfold the plot 16:12 Starting to write 19:22 Causality, logic and internal consistency 27:59 The importance of a synopsis 31:40 Everything must serve a function 33:22 Climax and the inevitable 39:00 Developing the villain and killing your darlings 47:23 Subplots and double meaning 53:40 Learning how to write from Leonard Peikoff 56:07 “Plot theme” keeps you on track 59:48 Opposition, stakes and key concepts 1:05:08 “A nest of characters at each others' throat” 1:08:02 Trusting the audience 1:16:05 What is most vulnerable 1:19:28 The importance of being important This episode featured Henrik Knightingale & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of Wanderer Above a Sea of Fog by Caspar David Friedrich. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Architects separated from masons 05:16 Craft vs. genius 09:41 “Creative imagination” vs imitation 20:11 Kant's superhuman genius 24:25 Artification of music and the idiosyncratic world of genius 31:20 “From patronage to market” 44:21 Art vs. money, copyright and the “aesthetic” 48:50 “Kant and Schiller sum up the aesthetic” 53:24 Kant's “fine art vs craft” & indifference vs. storytelling 58:00 Kant's spontaneous genius 1:00:42 Schiller 1:03:28 Museums as the great neutralizers 1:15:28 de Quincy's warnings against the museum 1:19:26 Do we need museums? This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum and Auden Dillon. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The young architect has already made a mark on one of Sweden's cities by winning a competition to build a housing complex in multiple classical styles. Nils Freckeus has a strictly classical approach and aspires to work like the old building masters. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Introduction 01:14 Columns not allowed! 05:05 The problem of complaining 09:48 Freckeus' first place in a municipal architecture competition 16:41 "Our time" is what you make of it 18:13 Sticking to the classical principles 19:45 Everything starts with the columns! 26:27 Beauty is recognizing nature…? 28:32 Freckeus' Nobel center in Stockholm 32:26 The tactics of pushing modernist buildings 37:20 "Classical", "traditional" or "classicism"? 43:00 Reflecting the time? Rebuilding The Notre Dame in Paris 49:43 Corbusier's five conservative rules 53:08 The eastern idea of "copying" 59:00 Fear, boredom & lack of confidence 1:04:03 Classical: sustainability in material, style and economy 1:11:33 Regulations and the big developers 1:15:32 "Humans are beautiful - architecture should be too" 1:21:57 Built not by gods, but by human beings This episode featured Nils Freckeus & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a study drawing of a Nobel Center in Stockholm by Nils Freckeus, based on an idea by Ferdinand Boberg. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into norse mythology. Ellingvåg is the historian behind the Viking Stories channel on YouTube . He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows. We have previously released an interview with Ellingvåg on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeje-6fYmw 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Can we trust Snorre's "Edda"? 08:04 The Yamnaya warriors from the Armenian highlands 10:23 Crisis and mixing 12:26 Bronze Age blending: the Jötnar, Æsir & Vanir 15:57 Mobility, boat types and trade 23:00 “Euhemerism“ and “Hieros gamos“ 25:38 Different priorities for agriculturalists and warriors 30:50 What always happens after catastrophes 34:43 DNA studies from the east 38:18 Trading hostages - an Indo-European way of ruling 40:37 Horse & carriage 42:55 The marriage between Njord and Skade: culturally too different? 45:03 The strange heritage of Norse individualism and conformity This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Kaja Forum is a Norwegian painter with an acute sensibility to value and tender moments. Living off of commissions, Norum will explain how she balances her own wishes and those of the commissioner. She will also discuss how she approaches her own work, laying out her method of solving compositions and how she double-checks herself by comparing her own work with the old masters. In addition, Norum will talk about her favorite contemporary colleague Molly Judd, and how she has been inspired by the works of August Rodin, Eugène Carrière and Odd Nerdrum. You can visit her website by going to: https://www.ateliernorum.com/ 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Introduction 01:07 Waldorf education and the modernist hostility 06:39 First time seeing Odd Nerdrum in person 09:45 Originality vs pleasure of imitation 13:28 Norum's charcoal drawing “Outcasts” 14:24 Beauty: recognizing the human condition 21:07 Resonating with archetypal images (Rodin and Carrière) 27:24 The problem of painting from photo 31:01 Working with compositions 34:12 Working with commissions 36:41 Loose and rough paintings look alive 38:09 Practical advice on commissions 47:16 Norum's hijacked website 48:21 Commissions: spotting the carrot in it 51:35 Rodin, Nerdrum and making changes to the model 58:43 The Figurativas exhibition at MEAM in Barcelona 1:07:04 Correcting your own paintings 1:10:02 Norum on her friend and colleague Molly Judd This episode featured Kaja Norum & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a charcoal drawing by Norum entitled "Outcasts". SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 "A European invention barely 200 years old" 05:58 The Great Division 10:02 Disinterested contemplation and the new religion 14:06 "The Greeks had no word for it" 17:50 A broader idea of imitation 21:45 Finding "Art" in the ancient Greeks 23:43 No "aesthetics": The Knidian Aphropdite & Daidalos 25:37 The Middle Ages: "artifici" vs. "artist" 28:32 Rubens the factory owner & Alexander Dumas’ ghost writers 31:30 The Middle Ages and the workshop tradition 37:29 Beauty and categorization in the middle ages 44:47 The status of the painter in the Renaissance 52:45 "Renaissance Rivals" and the categorization of music 55:53 Leonardo’s Madonna and the idea of progress 1:06:07 Projecting "modern" values into the past 1:17:00 "A Proto-Aesthetic" 1:24:20 Charles Batteux and the invention of "fine" arts 1:31:31 The Enlightenment Encyclopedia: fine arts versus reason 1:34:54 From "fine" art to "Art" 1:44:01 Signs of the modern art vs. craft polarity 1:47:49 Value: from painting to painter This episode featured Bork Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum & Eduardo Nogueira and was edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Are we progressing towards a brighter future, or have we lost something important on the way? Should we look at science and poetry through the same lens, or is that one of the reasons why we have ended up with modernism? Philosopher Stephen Hicks sits down with Classical painters, Odd Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv, to discuss the modern belief in progress and whether it is shaping the art world for good or for bad. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Belief in progress: net negative or corrective to nihilist art world? 10:08 Recycling vs decay and "spiritual racism" 18:36 Cyclical history and modern nihilism 22:24 Only the Greek sculptures are destroyed 25:08 Progress vs unchanging reality 28:53 The universal in the particular 30:15 The fish pudding 35:12 Should painters celebrate scientific progress? 38:15 A piece of burned wood in Leonardo´s hands… 40:58 Melancholy, a gold mine 45:56 Skill, sensuality, desire and poetry 49:09 Meeting people on their weakest point 53:05 Death and resurrection of Rembrandt 57:21 Michelangelo's Pietá vs David 59:34 They developed their whole life 1:04:09 Made by the same person This episode featured Stephen Hicks, Odd Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

What are the foundational rules of storytelling and can Ayn Rand's philosophy serve as an inspiration to fiction authors? Henrik Knightingale, who just released his first play, is an objectivist with a keen interest for the work of Ayn Rand. He sits down with Jan-Ove Tuv and Carl Korsnes to discuss her ideas about literature and reveals how he went from being a modernist to a writer with structure and a clear goal in mind. Henrik Knightingale's debut play "In His Own Shadow" is now available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGYPVSZT 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 From unconscious modernist to clear standards 05:25 Forging a plot 10:28 The Climax: a struggle of life and death 21:38 Definition of "plot" & "theme" 22:45 Tragedy vs unfaltering heroes? 29:05 Rand's so-called "cardboard figures" 33:16 Determinism vs Romanticism 40:41 The role of volition 50:04 Balzac, Lucian Freud and Andrew Wyeth 56:00 Disregarding biographical data 58:35 Show, don’t tell 1:02:37 Which authors Rand favored 1:05:12 Life as it can be — and ought to be 1:09:54 My sense of life…? This episode featured Henrik Knightingale, Jan-Ove Tuv & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Professor James Stevens Curl is the author of the book "Making Dystopia: The Strange Rise and Survival of Architectural Barbarism". He dissects the modernist ideology as a historical phenomenon, which is not independent of the authoritarian social forces that surround it. On the contrary, Stevens Curl demonstrates that modernism became an authoritarian aesthetic ideology from early on, which eventually characterized the whole of Western culture. Where many academics in Western Europe have taken a nihilistic approach to the dystopian urban landscapes that have risen after the Second World War, James Stevens Curl chooses a firm position. As he sees it, modernism is a deeply immoral and a socially destructive project, which should be actively combated. Curl has also written extensively about Victorian architecture. Architecturally, the Victorian era was a rich era, with great building activity and saw the construction of many beautiful churches. In his newest book "English Victorian Churches", Curl explains how the European political currents of the time, British religious policy, and local engagement played a significant role in realizing this rich and beautiful architectural period." 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:33 Intro 01:48 Architecture and the surrounding landscape 05:12 “Making Dystopia”: how modernism came about 10:35 Gropius, Miese and Le Corbusier 12:41 Pevsner: “modern architecture should be totalitarian” 16:06 Totalitarian mindset and the Nazi connection 25:42 Modernist bullying and idolatry 32:38 Abandoned churches and falsification of history 44:04 The gothic style 48:33 The language of classical architecture 51:06 Defining beauty 56:56 Modernism: a disaster in every way 1:00:16 Good examples 1:07:03 Modern architecture and sculpture 1:10:26 Modernism and corruption 1:14:24 “Making Dystopia” and Curl's students 1:20:04 The role of architectural history and King Charles 1:26:42 Not just one style This episode featured James Stevens Curl & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was, on the left: a brown high-rise building under clear blue sky (photo: Dids) and on the right: St Mary's Church, Studley Royal Deer Park. (photo: Nicks-2017) SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Sturla Ellingvåg is the historian behind @VikingStories . He is is currently collaborating in DNA-projects with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows. He traces the roots of the Viking Age back to the Bronze Age and beyond, and also sees the earliest Viking raids as a pre-emptive defense against the onslaught of the "sword Christendom" of the Emperor Charlemagne. Ellingvåg takes us through Norse mythology, its connection to Greek mythology and society and how it may reflect reality in unexpected ways. Were the Norse Gods actually historical human beings and did the Vikings become more resilient through their stories? Join us as we delve into the Norse sense of life and discuss the power of their stories. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:31 Introducing Ellingvåg 01:04 Thinking across time 04:57 The Pre-emptive warfare of the vikings 10:27 Vikings: Democracy and Individualism 16:06 Elite marriage and "blue blood" 19:01 English Law is Norman Law 22:06 Starkad and the viking mentality 27:57 Scandinavian-Mediterranean contact 36:25 Scandinavian virgins at the Oracle of Delphi 43:51 Height differences and the sun winning over darkness 47:37 Norse gods: actual historical peoples? 53:57 The blood brothers Odin and Loke 56:15 Catastrophes cemented in myths 59:47 Metamorphosis of gods over time 1:05:31 Odin's search for knowledge 1:10:03 Shamanic journeys and living like animals 1:13:47 Genetic memory and canalization 1:19:53 Reconnecting through mythology 1:24:45 Ragnarok & Regeneration This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of the painting "Tor's fight with the Giants" (1872) by Mårten Eskil Winge. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jannik Hösel and William Heimdal to discuss how symbols should be treated in a narrative painting 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:00 Symbolism must be grounded in reality 03:03 Can you paint dragons and angels? 10:58 Psychological tension without obvious symbols 13:56 Faithful to biblical stories? 22:05 The case for illustration 26:49 Andrew Wyeth and the miracle of the everyday 27:44 Follow your character 32:39 The mythic potential of the motif 34:18 Archetypes and manipulating proportions: a platonic approach? 38:41 Natural, not intellectual symbols 45:52 Allegories 48:07 Theophanes' icons and contour lines 50:40 Paradise is present 54:46 Attributing symbolic value to things 58:48 Sometimes the face is enough (Olga Boznanska) 1:01:45 Why masterpieces are always calm 1:07:11 Christ crucified… in Eden This episode featured Ruben Hanssen & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a photograph of Azaria Civic Hall in Cayala, Guatemala by Ruben Hanssen. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Matthias Proy Børge Moe Diego Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Website: https://caveofapelles.com Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles Instagram: instagram.com/caveofapelles/ For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com