The Change

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.  While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects. Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events. Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest:  Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/ Support Services:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  Butterfly Foundation  Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673 Blue Knot This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week. Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277 Bravehearts  Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays). If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.  While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects. Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events. Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest:  Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/ Support Serivces:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  Butterfly Foundation  Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673 Blue Knot This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week. Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277 Bravehearts  Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays). If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Trish Bolton is writer and communications professional who has just published her first novel ‘Whenever You’re Ready’ in her sixties. We talk to Trish about her writing processes, why older women have been so invisible in media, literature and pop culture, and why thanks to writers like her this is finally changing. Trish chats about the different grief we feel as we age; grief for the past versions of ourselves, for dreams that never realised, and for the planet. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Trish Bolton, author of ‘Whenever You’re Ready’ https://www.instagram.com/trishboltonwriter?igsh=MW1jZGY4aG9hem84MQ== A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: chang --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

This week Cathy and Laura discuss a recent article published in The Cut called ‘The Power of Discretion after 60’  Is it better to ‘dress for your age’ or dress how ever the feck you want? Laura and Cathy discuss the theory behind the article and how the ideas have played out in their own lives.  The duo also share recommendations with links below.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Recommendations:  -Heist Creative - Branding photography in Sydney and Melbourne  -Book - Mrs Winterbottom Takes a Gap Year by Joanna Nell -TV shows - Bodkin on Netflix and Morning Wars on Apple TV -Podcast episode - How to Fail with Salman Rushdie  -Instagram account - Candace Leslie Cima ‘Life in my 70s’ A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses domestic and sexual violence, mental health, trauma and alcoholism. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.  Join us as we talk to Ali Anderson. She is a powerhouse who has lived many lives.  Ali is a self-described high functioning alcoholic, a mother of 3 adult daughters and a late bloomer as she calls it.  We talk about alcoholism, mental health, domestic violence and finding a way to the other side.  It is an inspiring conversation about how we are never defined by our past, it is what we do next when we realise that we are on a path that is not where we want to be.  Support Services:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Alcoholics Anonymous 1300 222 222  Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Ali Anderson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-anderson1705/  Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman.  Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women.  Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment!  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Anna Grosman  https://www.instagram.com/herconfidant/ https://herconfidant.com.au Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

In this episode we speak to the formidable Kylee Stone, a proud descendant of the Waka Waka and Kullili First Nations People.  Kylee is a storyteller at her core. She has re-invented herself many times throughout her life as a former Director at NewsCorp, Kylee’s career is marked by excellence in leadership development, growth, innovation and resilience.  We have a fascinating chat with Kylee about connection, reinvention and her relationship with change.  We hope you enjoy this chat with Kylee as much as we did.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Kylee Stone https://www.theperformancecode.co/ https://www.instagram.com/kyleejstone/  Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod202 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Anne Stephens is a teacher, mother to two sets of adult twins and now a grandmother. Some of you may know Anne as the outspoken Outlouder and mum to Jessie and Clare Stephens AKA - ‘The Twins’. Anne tells us all about the differences of raising kids in the 90s compared with now and the surprising parts of becoming a grandmother. She gives us some great career advice and notes on when to lean in or not and why our generation might just have it sorted when it comes to perimenopause. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Anne Stephens  Mentions:  The Imperfects episode with Dr Louise Newson https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-louise-newson-maybe-its-menopause/id1476501557?i=1000634548608 Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Dr Dimity Williams is a mother, nature lover, family doctor and advocate of nature protection for health’s sake. She is also the author of Nature, Our Medicine: How the natural world sustains us. On this episode Dr Williams chat to Cathy and Laura about writing ‘nature prescriptions’ for her patients and why just a few minutes in nature each day can help our mental and physical health. She describes the numerous benefits of being in nature for adults and why unstructured play outdoors will always be important for kids. Finally, we chat about peri menopause and the changes in treatments for women over the years that Dr Williams has been a GP. You can find out more about Dr Williams and buy her book on her website: https://natureourmedicine.com/ And via Dr Dimity’s Facebook page , Linktree and Instagram page.  For general information on perimenopause and menopause, Dr Dimity recommends:  https://www.menopause.org.au/ On mindfulness Dr Dimity recommends Mindful in May On finding out more about the health benefits of nature and being outdoors: https://www.suestuartsmith.com/ And finally, just for some female empowerment and mental health comedy try:  http://www.catherinedeveny.com/ Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Dr Dimity Williams  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Cathy and Laura are back for season 2!  Just a warning this episode contains a bit of swearing so don’t listen around little ears if this is a worry for you.  Catch up with Cathy and Laura as they have a change chat about all the things that have been tumbling through their minds over the season break.  They reflect on their recent birthdays, life, relationships and other things women in their midlife are talking about ahead of season 2. Most importantly what prompts Cathy to say “​​We just don’t have time to give f@#$ about things we don’t care enough about anymore”.  Listen to the end for some great winter book and TV recommendations. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: Link to the Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/13/gender-inequities-are-important-why-couples-fall-out-of-love Recommendations:  Books:  Tilda is Visible - Jane Tara  Friendaholic: Confessions of a Friendship Addict - Elizabeth Day  Whenever You’re Ready - Trish Bolton  Movie/TV Show: Poor Things - Disney+ Death in Paradise - ABC iview/Binge Beyond Paradise - Binge  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Season 2 of The Change Podcast is Coming Soon! Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

In this bonus episode we reflect on a fantastic first season and pull out some of our biggest learnings. Cathy explains why she feels less invisible than she did at the start of season 1 and Laura shares some of the changes she wasn’t honest about in episode 1. This is the last episode in season 1 and we’ll be back in May 2024 with more inspirational, smart women telling great stories about change for season 2. Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Our last episode for season one  is with the phenomenal and incredibly accomplished Jessie Stephens. We all worked together at Mamamia and it a fabulous episode where we talk to Jessie about motherhood, writing a book (or two in Jessie’s case), being an aunty and everything in between.  Anyone who is a Mamamia follower might remember the disagreement that Mia and Jessie had about being a stay at home mum. Mia took the side that being a stay at home mum is intellectually boring and not very stimulating, and at the time Jessie thought that it would be a fun thing to do. We ask Jessie how she feels about this now as a mum to a 7mth old!  Jessie is already so accomplished as a writer, author, presenter (tv, radio and podcast) and script writer, what is left or next to do for Jessie?  It is an episode not to be missed.  Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: With thanks to Jessie Stephens https://www.instagram.com/jessiestephens90/  Buy Jessie’s books here: Something Bad is Going to Happen  Heartsick National Geographic links about menopause and hot flushes Is it possible to cure hot flushes? We may be getting closer. What happens during menopause? Science is finally piecing it together. Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Not everyone hits 50 and feels invisible as today’s guest proves! Meet Teresa McNamara, a makeup guru and single parent to two now adult women who upended her life in her mid-forties and just a few years later was the happiest she has ever been. At 50 she married her soulmate, and at 53 she launched her YouTube channel thats filled with relatable and practical makeup and skincare tutorials.  Always filter free and realistic - Teresa is a product enthusiast and collector who wants to help other women look and feel good at any age.  Forget feeling invisible in midlife - Teresa’s never felt more visible!  Teresa McNamara’s You Tube: https://youtube.com/@teresamadelyne289?si=CgJZ3BG7jq6lBks0 Teresa McNamara Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/teresamadelyne?igsh=MTF3bmhmN2h2Z3Q0eA== Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions:With thanks to Teresa McNamara Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Imagine discovering in your mid-thirties that you were adopted and had a whole other family that had been searching for you for years?  For Louise Wilkinson, dance school director and motivational speaker, this is exactly what happened when she received a surprise letter in the mail from her biological mother.  But rather than let this shock news upend her life in a negative way, the letter and the huge changes that followed, were an opportunity for Louise to invite more love into her life.  We chat to Louise about how she dealt with discovering this family secret and what it meant to her identity. She also reveals why the 'third act' is always the best and what it is like to become a grandma at age 46. Credits: Article on Mamamia about Louise: https://www.mamamia.com.au/secret-adoption/amp/ Louise Wilkinson’s  Website: https://www.louisewilkinson.com.au Louise Wilkinson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louise_wilkinson_inc?igsh=MThrYmZkYml1b2RwcQ== Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: Thanks to Louise Wilkinson Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Writer, mother and self-confessed over-sharer Cathrine Mahoney has been through some big changes in the last decade. She split from former NRL player and TV commentator, Andrew Johns, and began dating again in her forties.  She went from a career as a publicist to a podcaster, author and TV panel regular.  We chat to Cathrine about all of these big career and relationship changes, as well as what happened when she recently began experiencing perimenopausal symptoms and started taking HRT. Credits: Cathrine Mahoney’s podcast ‘So I Quit Mt Day Job’: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/so-i-quit-my-day-job/id1496517561 Buy Cathrine’s book ‘Currently Between Husbands’ here Cathrine Mahoney on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cathrinemahoney/ Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: Thanks to Cathrine Mahoney ‘Romantic Comedy’ by Curtis Sittenfield ⁠ Queen Menopause by Alison Daddo The Imperfects - Dr Louise Newson - Maybe it's Menopause Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Lizza Gebilagin is a writer, podcaster and former editor-in-chief of Women’s Health magazine. She’s also a super fit mum who didn’t let a pandemic stop her pursuing her dreams!  We chat to Lizza about her huge career changes that saw her leap from magazines to digital and back again and how she really managed the motherhood juggle alongside her dream editor-in-chief job.  We discuss Lizza’s amazing career pivots during Covid and her foray into the world of professional boxing in her thirties!  Mentions: Lizza Gebilagin https://3amhuddle.substack.com/ https://www.instagram.com/lizza_marie/ Credits:  Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

In this extended episode we have a heartfelt conversation with Jacynth Bassett all the way from the UK, we explore her reasons for the creation of The Bias Cut. Jacynth's vision for The Bias Cut has blossomed into a beacon of change in the fashion industry in the UK and beyond.  We explore the origins of The Bias Cut, its impact on age-inclusive fashion, and the powerful narrative behind this initiative. We talk about the moment she knew that Ageism is Never in Style was going to be bigger than she could have hoped and when #ilookmyage became a global movement.  Join us as Jacynth shares her story, showcasing how a simple act of love can spark a movement for positive change in the world of fashion and beyond. Credits:  https://www.thebiascut.com/pages/ageism-is-never-in-style-welcome https://www.instagram.com/ageismisneverinstyle/ https://www.instagram.com/thebiascutboutique/  Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Mentions: https://www.mamamia.com.au/i-look-my-age-campaign/  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

When we are parents to littles we all have this vision that when our littles become big, being a parent will be somehow easier. So what happens to our sense of who we are when we get relegated to the sidelines and are no longer the participant parent in our kids' lives?  In this episode we speak with Bron about life as a mum and how this has evolved over the past nearly 20 years, and what she is most looking forward to in her third act!  Bron is a passionate advocate for working parents.  She has written extensively about life balance, common sense and the ‘good enough’ mother. Through her parenting website Mumlyfe, Bron aims to help parents of tweens and teens to flourish, so they can nurture enlightened, passionate kids who make a difference. Credits:  Bron: https://mumlyfe.com.au/ Cathy O’Brien ⁠https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/⁠ Laura Jackel ⁠https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/⁠ Mentions:  ⁠https://mumlyfe.com.au/im-entering-the-otherhood-soon-and-it-feels-terrifying/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts ⁠https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/⁠ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram ⁠⁠@the_change_pod⁠⁠ and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: ⁠⁠changepod2023@gmail.com⁠ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message

Have you heard of the term “sexually nebulous”? We hadn’t prior to speaking with Amy! This episode we speak with Amy Lovat about her big change - falling in love with her soulmate Laura after years of dating men.  Amy is the author of Mistakes and Other Lovers, founder of Secret Book Stuff and program manager of the Newcastle Writers Festival.  Credits:  Amy Lovat: https://www.instagram.com/thatamylovat/ Amy’s article for the Guardian on meeting Laura:  https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/aug/20/the-moment-i-knew-i-had-a-realisation-if-the-plane-crashed-id-die-without-laura-knowing-i-loved-her  Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod2023@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message