The Circuit Magazine Podcast

What if convergence wasn't a single security professional but an interoperable partnership? We are delighted to speak with Toro Solution's Cyber lead Katie Barnett and Physical and Corporate Security Lead Gavin Wilson on their amazing partnership and converged service including:How to cross train in other security disciplines for operational successHow to sell converged or interoperable security services to a physical security focused clientWhen to look to a third party to augment your services and when to develop them in houseWhat 'cyber' security actually means and just how technical is it todayAbout Katie:LinkedInAbout Gavin:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Reading Between the Lines: Gary Simpson on Silent Signals That Could Save LivesWhat if the difference between life and death for your principal came down to a subtle shift in body language you almost missed? In this explosive episode, former military operator turned executive protection expert Gary Simpson reveals the invisible communication happening all around us – and why tomorrow's protection specialists must master the art of reading what's never spoken.Key Discussion Points:ANPA: The Afghanistan Connection - How Gary's deployment experiences taught him to spot "Absence of the Normal, Presence of the Abnormal" – the critical skill that helped identify threats overseas and now serves as an early warning system for executive protection teams in civilian environments.Military-to-Private Security Translation - Discover how battlefield-tested observation techniques from counter-insurgency operations seamlessly transfer to boardroom protection, from reading crowd dynamics at corporate events to identifying potential threats in seemingly safe environments.The Persuasion Power Play - Learn why the best protection specialists aren't just human shields but master communicators who can defuse situations through strategic non-verbal influence, using everything from positioning and posture to micro-expressions that either escalate or de-escalate tensions.Future-Proofing Protection Skills - Gary breaks down how tomorrow's elite protection specialists must become behavioural analysts, combining cutting-edge technology with ancient human instincts to create an invisible shield around their principals.About Gary:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Do you know who you are and why you do what you do?Knowing oneself is essential for protectors, especially as they transition from military or law enforcement to the private security sector. Many professionals might believe they understand their identity, yet in this episode, we discuss how introspection can make you a better protector. This week, we're joined by James Hamilton, founder of the Hamilton Security Group, where we explore:Why is it important to know yourself as a person when entering and operating in protection?What factors from your past do you need to acknowledge and understand to be an effective protector?Do those who have not come from the services have an advantage or a different method of 'knowing' themselves?Does this methodology help protectors plug skills gaps?Do you need to truly understand protector colleagues as they understand themselves for operational success?About James:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Are all Principals open to being educated by their protector? We are delighted to welcome Hector Robles Conde back to the Circuit Magazine Podcast for the second time to explore:What does effective principal training look like?Should the first approach be through the outer or family office or should you go direct?How much time can an UHNW or comparable principal allocate to this type of training?Does this training extend to their wider family?About Hector:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Where do you know them from? For many it might be an occasional irritation but for 'Super Recognizers' never forgetting a face is a profession. We are delighted to speak with Kelly Desborough, founder of Face Detect and actual Super Recognizer to ask:Can you learn to be a super recognizer?Where does or would this skill benefit EP?Can you match other pieces of information to a super recognizer skill?How fast can someone with this gift locate a face?What might prevent them from accurately recognizing a face?About Kelly:WebsiteLinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

We are delighted to catch up with incoming ASIS International EP Chair Kevin Palacios to look at priorities for the coming year and also explore his wealth of regional experience. Join us as we ask:What career pathways are available for EP within the wider Corporate Security ecosystem?Where do operational and managerial standards converge and diverge?What should we expect to see from ASIS International this coming year in the field of EP?How has your regional experience informed your passion for EP modernization?About Kevin:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Professionally, you might be doing the 'correct' thing but is it the right thing in the eyes of UHNW parents? You're the protector and not the nanny but you still need to gain compliance and cooperation when protecting children. And so it was a pleasure to welcome Sandra Adiarte, Founder of Apollo Synergetics to discuss:What communication styles should you employ with toddlers when compared to teenagers?How can you communicate high risk threats to small children?How should you avoid becoming a 'buddyguard'?What additional traits or skills are UHNW parents looking for in EP when deploying around their children?What risk factors do usual EP operations not take into consideration when looking after children?About Sandra: LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

What if the modernization of EP is more about the protector themselves and less about the type of service offered? Following the last four years we have seen a push to include more desk based intelligence services but can anything replace the 'last ten feet'?Join us where we review a live recording from the Ninth Annual Executive Security and CP Technology Forum in London with a fantastic international panel with representatives from the UK, Mexico, US and Germany to address the balance between the modernization of the service and those serving:What new services will clients ask for in 2024?How can you get direct access to the principal to ask what they actually want?How is the EP scene today in Germany, UK, US and Mexico?What does the modernization of the protector actually look like?Does modernization have to mean the adoption of technology?About the Panelists:Brandon ShafikhaniDavid Breen MVOAngie ClarkeAxel WochingerIvan IvanovichMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Are Master's degrees designed for your employment prospects or personal fulfilment? This week, we’re joined by Craig Smith from Minerva Elite Performance, who shares his thoughts on the importance and value of higher education within the security industry.In this episode, we examine how higher qualifications like Masters or PhDs could potentially differentiate professionals in this field, add value to their careers, and even provide a 'key' to open doors to opportunities.Craig emphasizes the importance of knowing one's purpose or the 'why' before pursuing higher education and the values of institutional support and engaging subject specialists.The conversation also touches on the impact of business and management education, and we’ll try to break down some of the perceived 'barriers' around higher education.Tune in to hear this wide-ranging discussion including:The Allure of Tertiary Qualifications for ProtectorsThe Role of Higher Education in Enhancing EmployabilityIs there a Danger of Overqualifying Yourself?How can protectors differentiate between higher education providers?What do all the levels actually mean?About Craig:LinkedInMinerva Elite PeformanceMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >Newsletter:If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Operating in Asia requires a cultural appreciation not just of your destination but of how you will be perceived in that geography. In this episode, our guest is Oliver JT Laurence, Director of Operations at I-OnAsia, headquartered in Hong Kong. We explore the complexities and challenges that security professionals face in this dynamic region, shedding light on the nuances of operating effectively amidst cultural, political, and economic shifts.We delve into:What services are most in demand from international operators in Asia?What types of operators are best suited or will be best received?Do you need to be fluent in Mandarin to succeed in the region?What geopolitical considerations should operators be aware of?How can international practitioners validate the credentials of local partners?"It's not going anywhere. It's important that we recognize that and support clients both in and out of the jurisdiction in any way we can." - OLAbout Oliver:LinkedInI-OnAsiaMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by operationally active volunteers working full-time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine, you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit', where we dive deeper into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

In this episode of the Circuit Magazine podcast, Armando Leon, Senior Manager of Security Infrastructure Protection at Washington Metropolitan Area Transport Authority, and Jonathan Pirillo, Manager of Security and Life Safety at Munich Re, discuss the evolution of leadership skillsets in corporate security.They delve into how leaders develop and guide their teams, stressing the importance of soft skills, adaptability and taking care of staff in a dynamic threat environment.The discussion also covers the following topics:The Importance of Leadership Skills in Corporate SecurityThe Role of Soft Skills in Security LeadershipLegal Considerations in Duty of CareThe Challenges in Hiring for Security Roles and the Importance of creating a Team Environment.What legal frameworks does the leader have to take into consideration when it comes to EHS?How can the leader protect the organization whilst also protecting the protectors?More about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

In this episode, we deep-dive into the dynamic theme of Integrated Training and how this innovative approach is revolutionizing the way security professionals operate. Discover why mastering both the digital battleground and the physical frontline is no longer a luxury, but a critical necessity. Phelim and Shaun are pleased to welcome Lee McWhorter, CTO and Director of Cybersecurity at Covered Six, and Kevin Lewis, Director of Training also at Covered Six as we take a journey through the cutting-edge intersection of cyber and physical security. Tune in to learn why Integrated Training isn’t just an option, but an absolute game-changer for anyone in the security field. In this epsiode we discuss:Overview of Integrated Training: The importance and impact of combining physical and cyber security training in the security industry.Two Pillars of Security: Exploring the interrelation and convergence of cybersecurity and physical security in integrated training.Cyber-Physical Threats: Examining scenarios where cyber and physical security threats intersect and their implications.Essential Knowledge for Security Professionals: The necessity of a basic understanding in both cyber and physical security for effective client protection.Importance of OSINT and Cyber Hygiene: The role of open-source intelligence and cybersecurity awareness in modern security practices.Challenges and Future Outlook: Discussing the complexities and future trends in integrated training within the security industry.Our Guests:Lee McWhorterKevin LewisCovered SixMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Jon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweElijah ShawConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

If they asked you, would you stab your boss? Even if you were confident they were wearing the latest in body armour and it was just a demonstration? Today's podcast guest Colin MacKinnon has demonstrated the benefit of effective body armour on several occasions and we are delighted to explore this evolving topic including:Why can't bullet proof vests often stop blades and sharpened screwdrivers?How easy is it to incorporate discrete body armour into a suit?Do you need to train with heavy packs to prepare for body armour?What can body armour not achieve today but might achieve in future?What new composites and technology should the protector learn about?How can an effective armour selection be made?About Colin: LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full-time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Shaun WestJon MossElijah ShawPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Instead of a single super-security specialist, is the EP firm the home of convergence because as a business any service can be bundled or offered through a partnership? In this edition of the Circuit Magazine podcast, Shaun and Phelim speak with Andrew Peden, the founder and CEO of L5L Solutions, about the importance of breaking down silos within the risk management industry.We delve into the idea of a 'unified protector', and ask whether professionals in the risk protection sphere should operate on a less hierarchical, more peer-level basis to work more efficiently.Andrew underlines the significance of maintaining effective communication channels along hierarchical lines and the need to develop a strategy for achieving professional goals.Other topics covered include:The Concept of Super Service in Security and what is the Future of Risk ManagementThe Importance of Continuous Learning and Adaptability and the role of the Unified ProtectorWhere does the wider EP ecosystem end?Do silos really exist, if so, what is preventing a manned guard from calling the CFO?What partners does EP 'actionable' intelligence need today and will it need in five years?What role could cross-functional teams have in developing the 'unified protector'?What does all this mean for the specialist?About Andrew:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full-time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Shaun WestJon MossElijah ShawPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

If your client is driving a Bugatti Veyron around the streets of London how can you, as a protector, deter threats, protect them from attacks and accidents, and provide a nimble safety blanket that can keep pace with a supercar? Welcome to the world of motorcycle outriders. In this episode, we are delighted to welcome Sebastien Bouchard, Founder of 242 Security UK Ltd and 242 MSU to the podcast to ask:How can motorcycle outriders help and what threats are they designed to counter?What type of licensing and insurance is required in this field?Should every EP operator learn mobile security skills?What role do outriders have beyond security and into the field of concierge services?Could mobile security units ever be covert?About 242 Mobile Security:WebsiteMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full-time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Shaun WestJon MossElijah ShawPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Why does the pinnacle in EP Standards still elude us? Why are standards a contentious issue? Hot on the heels of the recent BEPP Executive Protection Operations Conference in Kansas City we are very pleased to bring you key takeaways from James Cameron and Gerard Boniello, Chair and Vice Chair of the Board of Executive Protection Professionals. This week we are combining the thematic topic of standardization and the work of the BEPP with feedback and a behind the scenes look at the recent conference to ask:How could the ANSII standard improve the industry?What has happened between now and our previous interview with James Cameron?What advice do you have for improving EP training experiences?Key topics that stood out at the EPOC conference this year?Next steps for the BEPP and how you can get involvedAbout James and Gerard:James Cameron Gerard BonielloAbout the Board of Executive Protection Professionals:WebsiteMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Elijah ShawJon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Does being 'Grey' mean you keep your opinions to yourself until someone is in danger? Does being 'Grey' mean not compromising OpSec at all times? What about keeping the Principal 'Grey'? We took the 'Grey Professional' in some fascinating directions at an in-person round table discussion in Virginia hosted by Samaritan Protective Services ahead of the Physical Cyber Convergence Forum where we specifically recorded our discussion and findings for you, the community. This is a different format to our usual podcast but the thematic style remains the same but with some amazing round table participants:About the Round Table ParticipantsOur Host - Samaritan Protective ServicesBrandon ShafikhaniAndrew BellmanMike PheobusKris ColemanSteve HernandezNathan AckermanLauren WygantJoe AuteraKevin DyeDr Treston WheatRobert RawsonChuck RandolphMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Elijah ShawJon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

Where does the EP entourage stop? The family office? A K9 Asset? If the edge cannot be concretely defined is everyone a potential partner? This week we are delighted to welcome a great friend of the Podcast and Magazine Frank Cannon, Founder, Cannon Asset Protection with experience both in EP and security consulting to help us ask:How can EP professional work on facilitation and persuasion skills?How and when to pursue partnerships when looking for contracts?How can partners identify relevant information to pass on to you when they don't have intelligence experience?When can tradecraft network building be mapped into your operation?What is 'Ground Truth' and who has it?Where does the 'Entourage' fit into your risk matrix?About Frank:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Elijah ShawJon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

You might have overhead a few UHNW business conversations in your time but has it given you real 'intelligence'? This week we are very pleased to welcome Dr Treston Wheat, Red-teamer and Critical Thinker to the Circuit Magazine Podcast to ask:What is critical thinking and aren't protectors already using it?Does every protector have to become an analyst or should each team have 'the' analyst embedded?What is the difference between studying for a Masters to enrich your life experience and being able to directly apply analytics skills in your protection career?Is there such a thing as 'ground truth'? Are protectors more sceptical having seen some of the 'worst' of humanity in their career?About Treston:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Elijah ShawJon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association

You might have a good grasp of your principal's threat footprint but how much do you know about them as a current or prospective client?When do you need to call in legal or investigative help for due diligence?What are the worst case scenarios you might uncover?Is all of this information 'OSINT' and to what extent is it 'Open Source' if so?Who has access to which critical databases?How can you map business associates of your principal and how can you keep that information secure?What are the limits to required due diligence?About Colin:LinkedInMore about the Circuit:The Circuit Magazine is written and produced by volunteers, most of who are operationally active, working full time in the security industry. The magazine is a product of their combined passion and desire to give something back to the industry. By subscribing to the magazine you are helping to keep it going into the future. Find out more >If you liked this podcast, we have an accompanying weekly newsletter called 'On the Circuit' where we take a deeper dive into the wider industry. Opt in here >The Circuit team is:Elijah ShawJon MossShaun WestPhelim RoweConnect with Us: Circuit MagazineBBA ConnectNABA ProtectorBritish Bodyguard Association