The Coffee Hour from KFUO Radio

How did two brothers both end up in church work programs at Concordia University, Nebraska? Daniel Ascher (sophomore at CUNE in Secondary Education, Science) and Luke Ascher (freshman at CUNE in Elementary Education) join Andy and Sarah to continue our conversation with the Ascher siblings! The brothers share where they grew up and when they began to consider church work, who encouraged them to pursue church work in college, how growing up in a ministry family (along with their sister Elizabeth) influenced them to consider church work vocations, what life is like for them at CUNE, and their advice for other young adults considering church work vocations. Hear our previous conversation with Elizabeth (Ascher) Henschen at kfuo.org/2025/09/12/coffee-hour-091225-set-apart-to-serve-formation-to-serve-as-a-high-school-teacher. Christ’s church will continue until He returns, and that church will continue to need church workers. Set Apart to Serve (SAS) is an initiative of the LCMS to recruit church workers. Together, we pray for workers for the Kingdom of God and encourage children to consider church work vocations. Here are three easy ways you can participate in SAS: 1. Pray with your children for God to provide church workers. 2. Talk to your children about becoming church workers. 3. Thank God for the people who work in your congregation. To learn more about Set Apart to Serve, visit lcms.org/set-apart-to-serve. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How can we study the Nicene Creed for its historical and theological significance? The Rev. Timothy J. Winterstein (pastor of University Lutheran Church on the campus of Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana, and author of Worshiped & Glorified: A Study of the Nicene Creed from CPH) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about what creeds are and what we mean when we say we confess something, why it's important to have a clear confession, why the Nicene Creed is significant in church history, the controversies it addresses, how the Nicene Creed has been used in the life of the Church, and why it matters that we still recite it today. Find Worshiped & Glorified: A Study of the Nicene Creed from CPH at cph.org/worshiped-and-glorified-a-study-of-the-nicene-creed. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

What does deaconess service look like in Asia and Germany? Deaconess Sandra Rhein (serving the Lord in Asia as a Sacred Music Educator) and Deaconess Kim Bueltmann (serving the Lord in Germany as a missionary in Leipzig and Chemnitz) join Andy and Sarah to talk about their recent projects and some mission work highlights, how deaconesses are perceived in Asia and the Philippines specifically, challenges they face and how the Lord provides through them, and the exciting things happening in both of their regions. Learn more about Deaconess Rhein at lcms.org/rhein and Deaconess Bueltmann at lcms.org/bueltmann and facebook.com/DeaconessKim. Find out how you can serve at servenow.lcms.org. Deaconess Rhein is leading a tour of Germany! Learn more in "Lutheran Women on a Journey" on Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578587306443 As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

Why should and how can adults and young adults be prepared to enter challenging conversations in the public square? The Rev. Dr. Mark Wood (Pastor of Shepherd of the Canyon Lutheran Church in Gold Canyon, AZ, former managing director of Church Planting, Renewal and Support for the LCMS Office of National Mission) and Dr. Lisa Clark (Senior Editor, Curriculum Resources, Concordia Publishing House) join Andy and Sarah for episode 1 of our "Prepared with a Reason" series to talk about why a curriculum on being prepared for challenging personal and public conversations was important for CPH to create, some scenarios that exemplify the need for education and training in this area, the topics covered in "Prepared with a Reason," how the curriculum prepares us in each of these topics, how this curriculum is different from other apologetics curriculum from CPH, and what readers and listeners can expect to learn. Find the curriculum at cph.org/prepared-with-a-reason-leaders-guide-digital-edition. Other helpful books mentioned by Pastor Wood include: The Universe Next Door: ivpress.com/the-universe-next-door Naming the Elephant: ivpress.com/naming-the-elephant As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How are Lutheran Early Response Teams (LERT) trained? The Rev. Michael Meyer (Director of Training, LCMS Disaster Response and Managing Director, LCMS Office of National Mission), Kris Schuldt (LERT Training Committee, District Disaster Response Coordinator, LCMS Missouri District), Bryce Cramer (LERT Training Committee, Chainsaw trainer), and the Rev. Trae Fistler (LERT Training Committee, District Disaster Response Coordinator, LCMS Mid-South District) join Andy and Sarah to talk about what LERT is, how LERT teams serve and why proper training is so important, why the LERT training curriculum was updated, and how teams can be trained using this new curriculum. Learn more at LCMS.org/disaster and LCMS-LERT.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

What are the joys and challenges of becoming a second-career pastor? Rev. Don Stein (pastor of St. Andrew Lutheran Church in Rockton, IL) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about the congregation he serves, his previous career working for Congress in Washington, D.C., what led him to pursue pastoral ministry, how his experiences in Washington, D.C. gave him skills and insight for ministry in a congregation, the joys and challenges of pursuing the pastoral ministry as a second career, and his encouragement to other men to considering the pastoral ministry as a second career. Christ’s church will continue until He returns, and that church will continue to need church workers. Set Apart to Serve (SAS) is an initiative of the LCMS to recruit church workers. Together, we pray for workers for the Kingdom of God and encourage children to consider church work vocations. Here are three easy ways you can participate in SAS: 1. Pray with your children for God to provide church workers. 2. Talk to your children about becoming church workers. 3. Thank God for the people who work in your congregation. To learn more about Set Apart to Serve, visit lcms.org/set-apart-to-serve. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How are Directors of Christian Education formed at Concordia University Chicago? Dr. Debbie Arfsten (Professor of Christian Education and DCE Program Director at Concordia University Chicago), along with DCE students Nathaniel, Shanell, Joey, Rachel and Caleb, join Andy and Sarah to talk about how the students learned about the DCE role in Lutheran churches, their respective journeys to Concordia Chicago, what they've been learning in their courses, why Dr. Arfsten brings DCE students to the LCMS International Center, and what DCE work looks like today compared to the past. Learn more about DCE formation at Concordia Chicago by visiting cuchicago.edu/dce. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

Are you looking for great resources for Advent and Christmas at church and at home? Elizabeth Pittman (Director of Public Relations for Concordia Publishing House & Concordia Gospel Outreach) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about the resources available from CPH for Advent and Christmas this year, including, "Every Heart Prepare - Preaching, Worship, and Children’s Christmas Service," Wise Men Seek the Savior, Christmas Water Reveal Activity Book, and My First Christmas: A Touch and Feel Bible Story. Find these and more Advent and Christmas resources at cph.org! As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How does Worship Anew help people hear God's Word? Matthew Leighty (Executive Director with Worship Anew) and Thomas Moll (Director of Content and Innovation with Worship Anew) join Andy and Sarah to talk about Worship Anew's new partnership with KFUO Radio, how listeners can interact with Worship Anew, the resources and care packages available from Worship Anew, and the feedback they've received from viewers. Hear Worship Anew on KFUO, Sundays at 7:30am and 1:00pm Central Time. Learn more about Worship Anew at worshipanew.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

What is it like to live in Asia and share the Gospel? The Rev. Matthew and Kali Wood (serving the Lord in Indonesia) and Mindy Thews (serving the Lord in Taiwan) join Andy and Sarah to talk about their work in the places where they serve, how they share the Gospel with those around them, what they’ve learned about the local culture, and what life is like in their communities. They also share what’s ahead as they prepare to return to their respective mission fields. Learn more about the Woods at lcms.org/wood. Learn more about Mindy Thews at lcms.org/thews. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How does Lutheran Braille Workers make it possible for the blind and visually impaired to read God's Word? Rev. Dr. Robert Hartwell (President of Lutheran Braille Workers) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about his path to serving as president of Lutheran Braille Workers (LBW), why this work is so important to him, a few stories that exemplify the work of LBW today, how churches can become more welcoming for the blind or visually impaired, and the variety of free resources available from LBW. Learn more about Lutheran Braille Workers at lbwloveworks.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How have church work students connected with youth who are interested in church work vocations? Rebekah Saucerman (sophomore in the deaconess program at Concordia University Chicago) and Ryan Munro (senior in the pre-seminary program at Concordia University Wisconsin) join Andy and Sarah for our Set Apart to Serve series to talk about their journeys into their respective church work programs, the challenges they faced and overcame along this journey, how they were selected to serve as Young Adult Representatives with SAS at Higher Things conferences over the summer, the conversations they had with prospective students, and what they learned through this experience. Learn more about Higher Things at higherthings.org. Christ’s church will continue until He returns, and that church will continue to need church workers. Set Apart to Serve (SAS) is an initiative of the LCMS to recruit church workers. Together, we pray for workers for the Kingdom of God and encourage children to consider church work vocations. Here are three easy ways you can participate in SAS: 1. Pray with your children for God to provide church workers. 2. Talk to your children about becoming church workers. 3. Thank God for the people who work in your congregation. To learn more about Set Apart to Serve, visit lcms.org/set-apart-to-serve. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How does a Director of Family Ministries serve in the Lutheran Church-Canada (LCC)? Samantha Neeb (Associate Director – Family Ministries, Lutheran Church–Canada) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about her path to becoming a church worker as a Director of Parish Services, how a Director of Parish Services serves in the LCC, why her new role as Associate Director – Family Ministries was created, and how she is serving congregations and families across LCC. Learn more about the LCC at lutheranchurchcanada.ca and find The Canadian Lutheran publication at canadianlutheran.ca. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How are children given a place to be loved and empowered in an urban center? Lydia Beasley (Executive Director of SOS Center in Milwaukee, WI) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about the Strength of Savior Center in Milwaukee. She shares where the idea for this center began and how it has grown into what it is today, how students and families are served and cared for, and how the SOS Center makes a difference for these families. Learn more at soscenterinc.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

What is adiaphora and why does it matter? The Rev. Brady Finnern, President of the LCMS Minnesota North District and host of KFUO Radio’s Concord Matters, joins Andy and Sarah to talk about the Formula of Concord reading plan he created for 2025, including the questions concerning Adiaphora that are addressed in October's readings. What does adiaphora mean, and was there a controversy about it in Reformation times? What does adiaphora NOT mean? What are examples of adiaphora today? When is there no option for adiaphora? How do we identify what is and is not adiaphora in other churches? Find the full reading plan from The Lutheran Witness at witness.lcms.org/2024/reading-plan, and find correlating Concord Matters episodes at kfuo.org/formulaofconcord. October | Adiaphora Week 1: Ep X 1-2 (p.496) AC XIV (p.38-39) AC XV (p.39) Week 2: Ep X 3-7 (p.496-497) AP XIV (p.186-187) AP XV (p.187-194) Week 3: SD X (p.597-602) Week 4: Ep X 8-12 (p.497) As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

In 2013, a popular national TV host provoked a sharp reaction from Christian viewers when he asserted that much of the Bible is allegorical, meaning that the narratives of Adam and Eve, Noah, and Jonah are non-literal and symbolic. This is not how Christians have historically understood allegory. Even in the Middle Ages, when ingenious allegorical interpretation sometimes resulted in nonsense, Christians still approached the Bible with the conviction that it was literal and historical — they just thought they were finding additional symbolic or spiritual meanings. While the Lutheran Reformation reined in allegorical interpretation of the Bible, there is one divinely inspired allegory given in Scripture that stands alongside messianic prophecy and typology as an interpretive technique for opening the Old Testament. Whether or not St. Paul’s example gives license to Lutherans to do allegory — that’s debatable! Rev. Carl Roth, pastor of Grace Lutheran Church in Elgin, TX, joins Sarah to talk about the “Searching Scripture” feature in the October 2025 issue of the Lutheran Witness titled “Do Lutherans Do Allegory?” on selected passages from Genesis and Galatians. This year, “Searching Scripture” is themed “Opening the Old Testament” and will walk through ways that the Old Testament witnesses to Jesus Christ and His grace, mercy and peace, delivered through the holy Christian church. Follow along every month and search Scripture with us! Find online exclusives of the Lutheran Witness at witness.lcms.org and subscribe to the Lutheran Witness at cph.org/witness. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How is colloquizing to become a rostered Lutheran educator a benefit to both the educator and the school? Robi Flach (Administrator of Altamont Lutheran Interparish School in Altamont, IL) and Annie O’Donoghue (Manager with Standing Partnership and the Set Apart to Serve team) join Andy and Sarah for our Set Apart to Serve series to talk about Robi's background and how she decided to become a Lutheran teacher, why the decision to colloquize to be a rostered teacher was important to her, how colloquy has benefited her and her school, and details on the upcoming webinar to learn more about the colloquy process. You can learn more and register for the webinar on October 15th at 7pm CDT at  LCMS.org/colloquywebinar. Christ’s church will continue until He returns, and that church will continue to need church workers. Set Apart to Serve (SAS) is an initiative of the LCMS to recruit church workers. Together, we pray for workers for the Kingdom of God and encourage children to consider church work vocations. Here are three easy ways you can participate in SAS: 1. Pray with your children for God to provide church workers. 2. Talk to your children about becoming church workers. 3. Thank God for the people who work in your congregation. To learn more about Set Apart to Serve, visit lcms.org/set-apart-to-serve. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

What is catechesis, and why does it matter for us in our daily lives? The Rev. Dr. Peter Bender (Senior Pastor of Peace Lutheran Church and Academy President of the Concordia Catechetical Academy (CCA) in Sussex, Wisconsin) joins Andy and Sarah to talk about what catechesis is and is not, why catechesis is important for us in our daily rhythms of life, how Recognized Service Organization (RSO) status has benefitted the Concordia Catechetical Academy, how CCA's resources benefit the church at large, and the recent work that's been done to translate and distribute the Small Catechism. Learn more about Concordia Catechetical Academy at peacesussex.org/cca and lutherancatechesis.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How is the Concordia University System helping young people attend Concordia Universities? The Rev. Dr. Jamison Hardy (President of Concordia University System) and the Rev. Dr. Douglas Spittel (Vice President of Concordia University System) join Andy and Sarah for the monthly update from the Concordia University System, including what's been happening in the first few weeks of classes at our universities, how LCMS church work programs are funded, feedback from students receiving scholarships, and how CUS is related to the LCMS District Presidents. Learn more about CUS and sign up to receive their e-newsletter at cus.edu. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.

How does LESA make Lutheran education possible for families in St. Louis? Amee Colvin (Director of Fund Development and Marketing, Lutheran Elementary School Association, St. Louis, Justine Eckhoff (parent of students at St. Paul’s Lutheran School, Des Peres, MO) and Laura Montgomery (Director of Education Resources, Lutheran Elementary School Association, St. Louis) join Andy and Sarah to talk about what Lutheran Elementary School Association (LESA) does for schools and families, how they accomplish their work, why Lutheran schools are a priority for the Eckhoff family, how LESA has helped the Eckhoff family make Lutheran education a reality, and all the exciting things happening at this year's Brew in the Lou. Learn more about how to attend Brew in the Lou or to support LESA at LESAstl.org. As you grab your morning coffee (and pastry, let’s be honest), join hosts Andy Bates and Sarah Gulseth as they bring you stories of the intersection of Lutheran life and a secular world. Catch real-life stories of mercy work of the LCMS and partners, updates from missionaries across the ocean, and practical talk about how to live boldly Lutheran. Have a topic you'd like to hear about on The Coffee Hour? Contact us at: listener@kfuo.org.