With his son Yoav Oren (former IDF special‑forces soldier) Ambassador Michael Oren (historian; former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S.) sits down for anunvarnished assessment of the war what “victory” actually means.
Highlights:
Psychology of war & the IDF: A deep dive into moral erosion under prolonged combat; how rage, fear, and fatigue are managed; why some units choose capture‑over‑kill in close quarters; and the IDF practice of embedding psychologists with frontline units during Gaza operations to stabilize judgment in real time.
Oren’s two‑line verdict: “Emphatically yes” on military success; “tragically no” because the fight mutates if Hamas retains weapons and cover.
The “Hezbollah model” in Gaza: why a foreign peacekeeping shield + undisbursed weapons equals a forever threat.
Hostages, Doha, and leverage: what actually forced movement — and what happens next if disarmament stalls.
Gaza casualty math, explained from Oren’s perspective (the 1:1 claim and why the numbers are contested).
How Hamas turns humanitarian aid into a war economy; the logistics and the alleged skimming.
On restraint under fire: Yoav’s close‑quarters firefight, triage under fire, and the decision to capture, not kill.
Anti‑Semitism’s uncensored return in the West — and why, according to Oren, arguments and “hasbara” often misfire.
USS Liberty: Oren’s step‑by‑step rebuttal to the “deliberate attack” narrative.
The strategic endgame: surgical strikes, cutting aid diversion, and whether disarmament is possible without a full re‑invasion.
00:00 Intro
01:50 Did Israel “win”?
04:30 Gaza’s tunnels and the unique urban fight
06:10 Multi‑front picture (Hezbollah, Iran, Houthis)
07:45 From battlefield gains to regional diplomacy
08:50 Hostages and the “diplomatic shield”
12:50 Why Hamas released hostages (and why it mattered)
15:10 Will Israelis accept another ground push?
15:40 Surgical strikes vs. re‑invasion
16:30 Aid diversion and UN logistics
23:00 Doha strike debate
32:10 IDF conduct under fire; Yoav’s firefight
41:00 Rules of engagement, restraint, and misinformation
55:20 Psych support embedded with IDF units
59:00 USS Liberty — the case against conspiracy
1:09:10 Closing thoughts: victory, vigilance, and what comes next
I know for a fact of Iranians who during the 12 days war..clearly could see how living in the geography of hate and evil ...turn em into a inevitable target for israel and at the same time an investment for the regime to play the propagnda war... Israel should push forward in spite of everything
pillar of security of usa in middle east is israel... now you kerp barking
omg...itvs a war...poor ukraine...no one is remembering russians attrocities...maybe we should make a moral case against the right of existense of russia
noam you actually digust me now.
"dual thinking" is absolutely fucking crazy. All of these fucks are so clueless.
I like Noam, I like Bari Weiss, Benny Morris, Iliza Schlezinger, Seinfeld. I also like Candace Owens, Tucker, Dave Smith, Ian Carroll, Jake Shields,Darryl Cooper. I like hearing both sides of the argument. If u keep telling people not to listen to someone, people are gonna listen to them.
Geek. Let the guest talk. I usually love your work, but this was awful.
what an a asshole! your guest had no facts to support his position.
todd barry is great, i dont think i've ever heard him on a podcast before
OMG! I remember when you could only get paninis! It was ridiculous!
where do they get these people? I can be forgiving of Periel speaking nonsense about others spending their money like it's her business but one's enough.
I enjoyed the 1st part discussing Chapelle, but most of it is 2 men trying to yap over one another. 🤦😂 Dan seems to have conceded Noam's vision for the podcast will always supersede. 🤣
buddy shouldn't of been fired over a joke, he should of been fired because he is a fucking moron.
Dan: "Wel, I was beautiful too at that age. I'd like to see what another 40 yrs does to her." 😂
Lucie Pohl😍
Godfrey predicted Trump winning the election!
"I like bed. There's nothing here for me in the conscious world." 😂🤣
Listened to this one just to hear Dan go off on Noam. 😂🤣
The talk about Dan's appearance on AGT Champions is gold!
I'm smarter after listening to this Podcast, thanks gang!