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Thank you for listening to the Crossway Podcast in 2025. We are happy to present a special Christmas episode featuring several of our ESV Audio Bible readers going through the amazing story of redemption and incarnation. To hear more ESV Bible audio, visit ESV.org or download the ESV app for Apple and Android. To read through the Bible in the new year, check out one of our ESV Audio Bible Podcasts: ❖ Chronological ESV Bible Plan with Robert Smith: Apple Podcasts | Spotify❖Through the ESV New Testament in 90 Days with David Cochran Heath: Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖Through the ESV Bible in a Year with Jackie Hill Perry: Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ Through the ESV Bible in a Year with Ray Ortlund: Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ The M'Cheyne ESV Bible Plan with Kristyn Getty: Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ The M'Cheyne ESV Bible Plan with Conrad Mbewe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ A Psalm a Day with Kristyn Getty (ESV): Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ 5-Day ESV Bible Plan with David Cochran Heath: Apple Podcasts | Spotify

In today's very special episode, we take a look back into The Crossway Podcast archives and put together our favorite clips of authors talking about Christmas. Check out the interviews featured in the episode below: ❖ The Gettys’ Favorite Christmas Hymns (Keith and Kristyn Getty) Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ Distinguishing Christmas Tradition from Truth (Andreas Köstenberger) Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ What Was the Trinity Doing on Christmas Day? (Matthew Emerson and Brandon Smith) Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ There’s More to the Christmas Story Than You Think (Benjamin L. Gladd) Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ Navigating Grief during the Holidays (Nancy Guthrie) Apple Podcasts | Spotify ❖ How to Wait for Christmas in an Age of Instant Gratification (Jonathan Gibson) Apple Podcasts | Spotify Authors featured in this episode: ❖ Keith and Kristyn Getty are award-winning hymnwriters who co-cofounded the Getty Music organization. In partnership with Crossway, Keith and Kristyn worked with their team to create the 'Sing! Hymnal', which features nearly 500 of the best Christian hymns, past and present, is specially curated and organized by the Getty Music Team. ❖ Andreas Köstenberger is the theologian in residence at Fellowship Raleigh, a cofounder of Biblical Foundations, a host at Oak Tree Cottage, and the co-author of 'The First Days of Jesus: The Story of the Incarnation' from Crossway. ❖ Matt Emerson serves as co-provost and dean of theology, arts, and humanities at Oklahoma Baptist University, where Brandon Smith also serves as an associate professor of theology & early Christianity. Together, they’re the authors of 'Beholding the Triune God: The Inseparable Work of Father, Son, and Spirit' from Crossway. ❖ Benjamin Gladd is the executive director of the Carson Center for Theological Renewal. He has written several books, including 'From the Manger to the Throne: A Theology of Luke' from Crossway. ❖ Nancy Guthrie teaches the Bible at her home church, Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Franklin, Tennessee, as well as at conferences around the country and internationally, including her Biblical Theology Workshop for Women. She is the author of numerous books, including 'What Grieving People Wish You Knew about What Really Helps (and What Really Hurts)' from Crossway. ❖ Jonathan Gibson is an ordained minister in the International Presbyterian Church, United Kingdom, and associate professor of Old Testament at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia. He is also the author of 'O Come, O Come, Emmanuel: A Liturgy for Daily Worship from Advent to Epiphany' from Crossway. ⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠ Previous compilation episodes: ❖ On Marriage: The Best of ‘The Crossway Podcast’ | ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ ❖ On Apologetics: The Best of ‘The Crossway Podcast’ | ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ ❖ On the End Times: The Best of ‘The Crossway Podcast’ | Apple Podcasts | Spotify If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show! ⁠⁠Complete this survey for a free audiobook by Kevin DeYoung!

In this episode, Lydia Brownback encourages those who are feeling lonely during the holiday season. Lydia Brownback is the author of several books in addition to the Flourish Bible Study series, including 'Finding God in My Loneliness' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Are We in a Loneliness Epidemic?" with Lydia Brownback: ⁠⁠⁠ Apple⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ | YouTube If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

Today, we are pleased to share an audio essay written and read by Uche Anizor entitled "Excited about Christmas, Less So about Christ." Uche Anizor is a professor of theology at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University. He is also the author of '⁠Overcoming Apathy: Gospel Hope for Those Who Struggle to Care⁠' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the essay here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete this survey for a free audiobook by Kevin DeYoung!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show!

In this episode, Matt Boswell talks about the importance and beauty of our worship. Matt Boswell is a pastor at the Trails Church in North Texas. He also serves as professor of worship ministries at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He is an author and hymn writer, known for songs including  “His Mercy Is More” and “Come Behold the Wondrous Mystery.” He is also the author of 'What If I Don't Like My Church's Music?' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Hymn Stories: 'His Mercy Is More'" with Matt Boswell & Matt Papa: ⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Spotify⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this episode, Beth Broom offers guidance to parents on how to talk to their kids about suffering Beth Broom is a licensed professional counselor supervisor (LPC-S) and certified clinical trauma professional, level 2 (CCTP-II). She is the executive director of Bridgehaven Counseling Associates, a nonprofit counseling practice in Raleigh, North Carolina. Beth is the founder and director of Christian Trauma Healing Network, a nonprofit organization that equips Christian helpers to care for trauma survivors. She cohosts Counsel for Life, a podcast engaging in conversations about mental health and the Christian life. She is also the author of '10 Questions About Pain and Suffering: 30 Devotions for Kids, Teens, and Families' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “What Your Teenager Needs Most” with Paul Tripp: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠  If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

Today, we are pleased to share an audio essay written and read by Rosaria Butterfield entitled "Unpacking 'Love Is Love'." Rosaria Butterfield is an author, pastor’s wife, homeschool mom, and former professor of English and women’s studies at Syracuse University. She is the author of 'Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the essay here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete this survey for a free audiobook by Kevin DeYoung!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show!

In this episode, Tyler Wittman explains how viewing creation as a song can help us understand it in a new way. Tyler Wittman is an associate professor of theology at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. He is also the author of 'Creation: An Introduction' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Is the Age of the Earth a Hill to Die On?” with Gavin Ortlund: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠  If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this episode, Brian Rosner digs into Romans and unpacks various passages and themes within it. Brian Rosner was principal at Ridley College in Melbourne, Australia from 2012–2024, where he now lectures in New Testament. He previously taught at the University of Aberdeen and Moore Theological College. Rosner is the author of several books, including 'Strengthened by the Gospel: A Theology of Romans' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Why Is Our Culture So Obsessed with Identity?” with Brian Rosner: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠  If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

Today, we have a special episode highlighting the state of the Christian church and Ken Mbugua's work in equipping pastors and churches across the continent. Kenneth Mbugua is the senior pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church in Nairobi, Kenya and is a Council member of The Gospel Coalition Africa. He is the Managing Director of Ekklesia Africa which promotes biblical resources for building healthy churches. If you want to contribute to Crossway's One Million Bible Initiative, check out our website to learn more. Every $3.50 given provides someone in need with their own copy of God’s Word. Would you prayerfully consider joining us in this effort to provide the Word of God to those in need in the Global South? A generous donor has agreed to match gifts dollar-for-dollar, up to $400,000 (228,572 Bibles). And 100% of your gift will go directly toward Bible distribution. Your gift will help us reach our goal of raising enough funds by December 31, 2025, to support the initial distribution of 250,000 Bibles. Read the transcript of the podcast here.

In this episode, Ryanne Molinari talks about how music shapes what we want, what we think, and how we do things. Ryanne J. Molinari is a collaborative pianist/organist and worship director based in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. She is also the author of 'Spirit-Filled Singing: Bearing Fruit as We Worship Together' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Hymns and the Joy of Singing” with Kristyn Getty: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠  If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this episode, Winfree Brisley and Sharonda Cooper talk through how to read and love the Psalms. Winfree Brisley serves as an editor, and Sharonda Cooper serves as content coordinator of women’s initiatives for the Gospel Coalition. They are also the coauthors of 'Turn Your Eyes: A Bible Study on the Psalms' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “The Universal Struggle with Self-Control” with Sharonda Cooper: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | YouTube  If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

Today, we are pleased to share an audio essay written and read by Jon Nielson entitled "How to Pray for Your Teen’s Spiritual Growth." Jon Nielson serves as the senior pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church of Wheaton in Wheaton, Illinois. He is also the author of 'God's Great Story: A Daily Devotional for Teens' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the essay here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete this survey for a free audiobook by Kevin DeYoung!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show!

In this episode, Rebecca McLaughlin shares why going to church is so healthy for the body and soul. Rebecca McLaughlin is the host of the "Confronting Christianity" podcast and the author of several books, including 'How Church Could (Literally) Save Your Life' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Is Christianity on the Decline?” with Rebecca McLaughlin: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this episode, Kristen Wetherell encourages parents on how they can encourage their kids to recognize the importance of prayer. Kristen Wetherell is a wife, mother, writer, and speaker. She is the author of several books, including 'Teach Me to Pray: Praying God's Word from A to Z' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Your Kids Are Already Theologians, So Give Them Good Theology” with Kristen Wetherell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

This is the final interview in a new Crossway Podcast mini-series called "Hymn Stories,"  where Matt interviews modern hymn writers and musicians about their hymns, all of which are featured in the brand new '⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sing! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hymnal,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠' published by Crossway in partnership with Getty Music. Bob Kauflin is the director of Sovereign Grace Music, and spends his time equipping pastors and musicians in the theology and practice of congregational worship. He also serves as a pastor at Sovereign Grace Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He was also a contributor to the ⁠'Sing! Hymnal.'⁠⁠⁠ Check out the entire Hymn Stories series: "His Mercy Is More" (Matt Boswell & Matt Papa) Apple | Spotify "We Will Feast in the House of Zion" (Sandra McCracken) Apple | Spotify " Come Unto Jesus" (Laura Story & Jordan Kauflin) Apple | Spotify "Listen to the Word of the Lord" (Bryan Fowler) Apple | Spotify "Is He Worthy?" (Ben Shive) Apple | Spotify If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

In this episode, Sandra Peoples encourages all churches to show love and care for those with disabilities in their church and community. Sandra Peoples (MDiv) is the disability ministry consultant for the Southern Baptists of Texas Convention and an adjunct professor for the John W. Rawlings School of Divinity at Liberty University, teaching classes in disability ministry. Sandra is currently a PhD student at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. She is also the author of 'Accessible Church: A Gospel-Centered Vision for Including People with Disabilities and Their Families' from Crossway. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ❖ Listen to “Paralysis, Heartache, and Hymns of Hope” with Joni Eareckson Tada: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

This is the fifth interview in a new Crossway Podcast mini-series called "Hymn Stories,"  where Matt interviews modern hymn writers and musicians about their hymns, all of which are featured in the brand new '⁠⁠⁠⁠Sing! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hymnal,⁠⁠⁠⁠' published by Crossway in partnership with Getty Music. Ben Shive is a musician, arranger, and music producer. A long-time collaborator with Andrew Peterson, Shive co-wrote the modern classic “Is He Worthy?” and was a contributor to the 'Sing! Hymnal.'⁠⁠ Check out the entire Hymn Stories series: "His Mercy Is More" (Matt Boswell & Matt Papa) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "We Will Feast in the House of Zion" (Sandra McCracken) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ " Come Unto Jesus" (Laura Story & Jordan Kauflin) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "Listen to the Word of the Lord" (Bryan Fowler) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "Is He Worthy?" (Ben Shive) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.

For today's episode, we are returning to an episode that was originally released in 2022 to celebrate the new edition of D. A. Carson's book 'Memories of an Ordinary Pastor'.⁠ D. A. Carson is Emeritus Professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is a cofounder of the Gospel Coalition and has written or edited nearly two hundred books. He is also the author of ⁠'Letters Along the Way: From a Senior Saint to a Junior Saint'⁠ and ⁠'Memories of an Ordinary Pastor'. ⁠Read the full transcript of this episode.⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show! ⁠Complete this survey for a free audiobook by Kevin DeYoung!

This is the fourth interview in a new Crossway Podcast mini-series called "Hymn Stories,"  where Matt interviews modern hymn writers and musicians about their hymns, all of which are featured in the brand new '⁠⁠⁠Sing! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hymnal,⁠⁠⁠' published by Crossway in partnership with Getty Music. Bryan Fowler is GRAMMY award-winning songwriter and producer. He has written for many artists, and his songs have hit #1 on Christian radio several times over. He is also a contributor to Crossway’s new ⁠'Sing! Hymnal.'⁠ Check out the entire Hymn Stories series: "His Mercy Is More" (Matt Boswell & Matt Papa) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "We Will Feast in the House of Zion" (Sandra McCracken) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ " Come Unto Jesus" (Laura Story & Jordan Kauflin) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "Listen to the Word of the Lord" (Bryan Fowler) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ "Is He Worthy?" (Ben Shive) ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Spotify⁠ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave us a review, which helps us spread the word about the show.