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Award Nominated Podcast. Long-Form Interview-Based Show Focusing on True Testimonies of Cult Survivors & Experts. Also Features Deep-Dive Research Episodes.
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S3 E36 GET AWAY, AMWAY!

S3 E36 GET AWAY, AMWAY!

2025-06-0101:14:42

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, Kacey and Darren Mudd delve into the world of multi-level marketing (MLM), specifically focusing on Amway. Darren shares his personal experience of being recruited into Amway during a vulnerable time in his life, highlighting the psychological tactics used by recruiters to exploit emotional states. The conversation explores the cult-like dynamics of university environments, the early warning signs of MLMs, and the brainwashing techniques employed through a structured learning curriculum. As the discussion progresses, they examine the challenges of recruitment, the illusion of success, and the growing dependency on the system, ultimately shedding light on the manipulative nature of MLMs and the emotional toll they can take on individuals. Darren’s recollections of participating in the Amway Pyramid Scheme as a university student:Amway Pyramid SchemeDavid’s brother joined AMWAY In the UK as an IBO, quickly became obsessed with it, and took control of the family’s capital assetsAMWAY In the UKThe tools/training business (an unofficial organisation) was based in Somerset and supposedly meant to “help” people build the Amway business through mentorship and materials - this was the actual cult whereas Amway was the pyramid scheme.Amway and one of its tools/training businessesGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey interviews Sarito Carroll, author of 'In the Shadow of Enlightenment,' who shares her experiences growing up in the Osho Rajneesh cult. Sarito discusses the challenges of writing her memoir, the invisibility of children in the Rajneesh movement, and the impact of a nomadic lifestyle on her childhood. She reflects on her experiences in the ashram, the open sexuality culture, and the neglect and abuse that occurred within the community. Sarito's story sheds light on the complexities of growing up in a cult and the lasting effects of those experiences. Sarito's Book: Sarito Carroll - Child of Osho (Bhagwan Shree) Rajneesh cult speaks of sexual abuse, neglect, and highs and lows of unique commune she grew up in.Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Emily, a third-generation cult survivor whose grandfather was the leader of His Way Ministries. Emily shares her journey from a life devoid of love and support within the cult to finding freedom and happiness. The conversation delves into the origins of His Way Ministries, the nature of cult leadership, family dynamics, and the impact of pro-life activism on her upbringing. Emily reflects on her childhood experiences, the transition to rural life, and the challenges of education in isolation, providing a poignant insight into the complexities of growing up in a cult. Emily's TikTok -  @emilycledeGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Maya Badham, founder of Safeguarding Human and Animal Survivors of Sexual and Domestic Abuse (SAHSDA), about the intersection of animal cruelty and coercive control in domestic abuse. They explore how animals are used as tools of manipulation and control, the cultural contexts of animal abuse, and the importance of recognising these issues in the broader conversation about human rights and violence. Maya shares her unique career path and insights into the systemic issues surrounding animal and human abuse, emphasising the need for a coordinated response to these intertwined problems.www.crimecon.co.uk - code CULT for 10% off tickets! Home | SAHSDA Safeguarding human and animal survivors domestic abuse sexual abuseGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Wendy Baker, a former member of the Source Family and daughter-in-law to the leader, about her experiences growing up in the counterculture movement of the 1960s, her relationship with the charismatic leader Jim Baker, and her life in the Source Family commune. Wendy shares insights from her memoir, 'My Name Was Mushroom,' detailing her transition from a typical teenager to a member of a spiritual community, the dynamics of communal living, and the impact of their beliefs on their daily lives. The conversation explores themes of identity, spirituality, and the complexities of life within a cult-like environment. My Name Was Mushroom: My Life as a Teenage Runaway in The Source Family Commune: https://amzn.eu/d/hZgKSkxGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with author Beth Granger, a cult survivor and representative plaintiff in a landmark class action lawsuit against her abusers. Beth shares her experiences growing up in Grenville Christian College, a cult disguised as a school, and discusses the challenges of recovery and the importance of sharing stories of those born and raised in cults. The conversation delves into the impact of cult life on identity, the challenges of publishing a memoir, connections to the troubled teen industry, coercive control tactics, purity culture, family dynamics, and the journey of healing.Beth's Book: Amazon.com: Born and Razed : Surviving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle eBook : Granger, Beth: BooksGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Lloyd Evans, a former Jehovah's Witness and current activist, about his journey out of the organisation and the complexities of Jehovah's Witness beliefs. They discuss the history of the Jehovah's Witnesses, the impact of indoctrination on children, and the challenges faced by those who leave the faith, including rapture anxiety. Lloyd shares insights on how to support children from different belief systems and the importance of compassion and understanding. The discussion also touches on the dynamics within survivor communities and the importance of constructive dialogue in healing and understanding.Lloyd's Books, Websites and YouTube:The Reluctant Apostate: Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses Comes at a Price: https://amzn.eu/d/4BEY6JjHow to Escape From Jehovah's Witnesses: https://amzn.eu/d/g4gaJ9Gwww.jwwatch.orgwww.youtube.com/@LloydEvansGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode, Shannon Payton AKA Shanny Pants shares her journey of growing up in a high-control religious cult, her experiences navigating life outside of it, and the challenges of parenting while healing from past trauma. She discusses the impact of her upbringing on her identity, relationships, and mental health, as well as the importance of psychoeducation in her recovery process. In this conversation, Shanny Payton shares her journey of healing from trauma, navigating relationships post-cult, and the challenges of marriage and parenthood. She emphasises the importance of humor in her healing process and discusses the support she has found in her community. Shanny also reflects on her experiences with social media and the impact of negative comments, while offering wisdom for those recovering from trauma.Shanny's Show - ShannyPantsShowWebsiteGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Don Johnson, who shares his journey from being a follower of Prem Rawat to becoming an instructor within the suspected cult. Don discusses his initial attraction to the teachings, the experiences that led him deeper into the organisation, and the cognitive dissonance he faced as he began to question the integrity of his leader. He reflects on his eventual disengagement from the suspected cult, the healing process, and the importance of critical thinking. Don also offers advice for others who may be navigating similar experiences and emphasises the need for support and resources.Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Kari Bunn, a survivor of the troubled teen industry, specifically the CEDU reform school. They discuss the historical context of CEDU, its connections to the cult Synanon, and the broader troubled teen industry. Kari shares her experiences and insights into the psychological manipulation and abuse that can occur in these institutions, as well as the importance of raising awareness through media and survivor stories. The conversation also touches on the complexities of distinguishing between non-abusive and abusive schools, the impact of influential figures like Liam Scheff, and the ongoing struggle for survivors to find closure and advocate for change. In this conversation, Kari Bunn shares her personal experiences with troubled teen programs, particularly CEDU, and discusses the complexities of survivor narratives. She reflects on the impact of unrecognized pain and the importance of accountability in the troubled teen industry. Kari also talks about her documentary project, the challenges of engaging with the survivor community, and the need for a comprehensive understanding of the issues at hand. The conversation highlights the ongoing struggles of survivors and the importance of raising awareness about the troubled teen industry.Kari's other media appearances:Straight Outta BS Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=reIUF2VxmMk8A2ZU&v=bnpIgc2Qa9k&feature=youtu.beAnne L. Peterson's Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ZAc4eXcxtDYG7n_p&v=Z1U3EHIh5po&feature=youtu.beKari's Website - http://www.cedudocumentary.com Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
*TRIGGER WARNING THIS EPISODE CONTAINS THEMES OF CHILD ABUSE. LISTEN WITH CAUTION!!!*In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Brenda Blais, who shares her harrowing experiences of childhood sexual abuse within the cult-like environment of the Students of Light. Brenda recounts her introduction to the group at a young age, the manipulative tactics employed by its leader, Don Kollmar, and the profound impact of the abuse on her life. The conversation delves into themes of control, isolation, and the resilience of the human spirit in the face of trauma.http://chasingenlightenment.netBrenda Blais (@riseupsurvivor) • Instagram photos and videosGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Zacch Comfort, creator of the Boiled Frogs podcast, which explores the cult he grew up in. They discuss the origins of the cult, the abusive dynamics within it, and the impact on children raised in such an environment.Zacch shares personal stories about his family's involvement, the control exerted by the cult leader, and the harsh realities of life in the commune, including labor expectations and limited education. The conversation delves into the psychological manipulation and isolation tactics used to maintain control over members, as well as the long-lasting effects of such experiences.Boiled Frogs Podcast - Apple PodcastsGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Madison McGhee, the creator of the Ice Cold Case podcast, which investigates her father's unsolved murder. Madison shares her journey from a background in film and television to the world of podcasting, discussing the challenges and unique aspects of audio storytelling. The conversation delves into her upbringing in a religious environment, the complexities of family relationships, and the impact of community dynamics on crime and justice. Madison reflects on the ethical considerations of true crime storytelling, the importance of diverse narratives, and her personal coping mechanisms for dealing with trauma. Throughout the episode, she emphasises the need for community support and the ongoing quest for truth in her father's case.Ice Cold Case - Ice Cold CaseSnitch Ass Daddy (SAD) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KeWVsorNzEGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
Anna has kindly gifted some free ebook versions of her book for UK listeners. Contact me if you are interested in receiving one!In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Anna Sonoda, a licensed clinical social worker, about the critical issue of grooming and child sexual abuse. Anna shares her insights on how grooming is a precursor to most child sexual abuse cases and emphasises the importance of educating adults and children about recognizing grooming behaviors. The conversation explores the role of vulnerability in child exploitation, the parallels between grooming and cult dynamics, and the proactive measures parents and communities can take to protect children. Anna also discusses her book, 'Duck Duck Groom,' which aims to change the narrative around child sexual abuse and empower parents to be prepared rather than fearful.In this conversation, Anna discusses the importance of community awareness and open communication in preventing child sexual abuse. She emphasises the need for adults to be vigilant and proactive in recognising grooming behaviours and creating safe environments for children.The discussion also touches on the role of gender in perceptions of safety, the significance of family dynamics, and the collective responsibility of adults to protect vulnerable children. Anna shares strategies for fostering open dialogue within families and highlights the importance of community involvement in safeguarding children.Duck Duck Groom: Understanding How a Child Becomes a Target - https://amzn.eu/d/2sxTecwDuck Duck Groom Guided Journal: https://amzn.eu/d/2s4HvRiGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Jay, a former member of Soka Gakkai International (SGI), who shares her personal experiences growing up in the organisation. Jay discusses her family's background, her early involvement in SGI, and the pressures and expectations placed on her as a member. She reflects on her experiences at SGI meetings, the financial contributions required, and the impact of leadership dynamics on her family. Jay also shares her struggles with identity, her meeting with Daisaku Ikeda, and the manipulative control tactics used by SGI. Ultimately, she emphasises the importance of individuality and critical thinking in the face of high-control groups.Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with former detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan, who share their experiences in the police force and their transition into podcasting. They discuss their motivations for becoming detectives, the significant cases they worked on, and the impact of coercive control in crime.The conversation highlights the importance of family involvement in true crime narratives, the challenges faced in domestic violence cases, and the need for generational change in addressing these issues. The detectives also reflect on mental health in policing and the future of coercive control legislation, emphasising the role of men in combating domestic violence.Watching Two Detectives: https://sarahferrismedia.com/watching-two-detectivesGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, Dr. Warren Hern, a prominent abortion provider, discusses his extensive career in women's healthcare, the evolution of abortion access since 1975, and the current political landscape affecting reproductive rights.He highlights the psychological toll on women seeking abortions, the threats faced by providers, and the implications of restrictive legislation on healthcare access. Dr. Hern emphasises the importance of Colorado's pro-choice stance and reflects on the future of abortion access in the United States amidst growing political challenges. In this conversation, Dr. Hern discusses the current state of abortion rights and women's healthcare in America, emphasising the challenges posed by political climates and the importance of safe abortion access.He shares insights on the role of healthcare providers, the impact of personal experiences on women's health, and the generational perspectives on women's rights. The conversation highlights the urgency of advocating for reproductive rights amidst a backdrop of increasing restrictions and societal pressures.Dr. Hern's Book - Abortion in the Age of Unreason: A Doctor's Account of Caring for WomenGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Sarah Darmofalski, a former member of the Lord Julius cult. Sarah shares her experiences growing up in the cult, the origins of the group, and the psychological impact it had on her and her family.The conversation delves into the cult's structure, daily life, and the challenges of maintaining relationships outside the group. Sarah discusses the identity changes imposed by the cult, the rituals they practiced, and the emotional turmoil of being kicked out and later returning.The episode provides a deep insight into the complexities of cult dynamics and the lasting effects on individuals and families.In this conversation, Sarah shares her experiences growing up in a cult, the challenges of navigating her identity, and the impact on her mental health and family dynamics. She discusses the struggles of reconciling her past with her present, the effects of cult involvement on relationships, and the shocking reality of violence within cults. Sarah emphasises the importance of healing and finding support, offering hope to others who have experienced similar situations.SUPPORT | The Family SurvivalInside The Work, an Abusive Connecticut Sex CultGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Josh Hutchinson and Sarah Jack from End Witch Hunts about the ongoing issue of witch hunts in modern society. They discuss the historical context of witch hunts, personal connections to the topic, and the work being done to raise awareness and advocate for victims.The conversation highlights the misconceptions surrounding witchcraft and the importance of understanding the distinction between historical practices and contemporary religious persecution. This conversation delves into the historical and modern implications of witch trials and witch hunts, exploring the persecution of individuals accused of witchcraft, the connections to honour-based violence, and the ongoing efforts to advocate for victims.The discussion highlights the importance of awareness, education, and legal advocacy in addressing these issues, as well as the successes and future plans of organisations working to combat these harmful practices.End Witch Hunts - https://endwitchhunts.org/Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com
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Nancy Doughty

I adore your interviews! Please keep them coming! How did you go about finding people to interview? just a curious question. I'm sure this is very old but congratulations on your second baby!

Apr 27th
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Lisa Smith

this is so true. my ex boyfriend is Pentecostal and I was a single mom of two kids one mentally I'll the other with a life threatening disorder and they were very young. and they want you to go to church all day Saturday and sunday and wenday then two days of bible study and when I told them I couldn't spend all that time they really pressured me and made me feel like the only thing that matters is church. they only thing that mattered was what they wanted they told me to give my worries about my babies illness who was fighting for her life. woman wearing allowed to wear pants and couldn't cut there hair and aren't allowed to wear makeup. I knew it was way to controlling for me and I left

Mar 19th
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