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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.
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Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle were tragically murdered. Their son, who has history of struggles with addition and mental health, is currently the lead suspect. Across the country, mental health issues have and continue be poorly treated and often stigmatized, when we desperately need compassionate policy reform. On this week’s episode of Words Matter, Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf discuss Rob Reiner’s artistic and social justice legacy, the inadequacies of our nation’s mental health policies, and how we can address political reform.
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On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Trump’s prime-time address, the House passing a healthcare bill without ACA subsidies, an $11bn weapons sale to Taiwan, and more.
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In a blow to House Speaker Mike Johnson, four House Republicans joined Democrats to force a vote next year on an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies. Anger is spiking in both directions: Representative Mike Lawler, one of those four, ripped Johnson’s effort to block that vote as “absolute bullshit!” But more MAGA-fied allies of President Trump like Representative Eric Burlison excoriated those rebels for “stabbing the rest of the party in the back.” This is the worst of both worlds for Republicans: They are mired in infighting, yet despite this push by centrists, the subsidies will still expire, bringing political trouble next year. Indeed, Johnson seemed unnerved as he gamely insisted he has “not lost control.” We talked to Grace Segers, who writes well about Congress and policy as a staff writer for The New Republic. We discuss the deeper roots of intra-GOP tensions, how this all might play in the midterms, and the deeper human toll that the expiring subsidies will unleash.
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Trump’s promise of a blockade on Venezuela is an unprecedented escalation. But behind all the bluster and rattled sabres, is there more to the story? Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce, and David Sanger join David Rothkopf to explore the root of the Trump administration’s hate-hate relationship with Nicolas Maduro, the likelihood of a boots on the ground war, and why they just can’t seem to stop bombing boats.
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On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss Trump’s order of a blockade of sanctioned oil tankers, an expanded travel ban, a telling Vanity Fair shoot of the administration, and more.
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White House chief of staff Susie Wiles gave numerous interviews to Vanity Fair that were way too candid about, well, everything. That prompted press secretary Karoline Leavitt to offer some rancid spin: She went full cult in praise of Trump. She dissembled lamely about “fake news.” And she raged at the publication for not including enough of Trump advisers’ praise for him—as if it’s obliged to do that! We think Wiles’ most interesting revelation was her open admission that Trump’s prosecutions are indeed about “retribution.” Zeteo reporter Asawin Suebsaeng has a piece out today reporting on a new turn in this saga: That confession will complicate Trump’s prosecution of enemies, because it gives them ammo to show that his targeting of them is vindictive. We talked to Suebsaeng about the damage this will do to Trump’s corrupt prosecutions, why Leavitt and others praise Trump so obsequiously at difficult moments, and what all this says about our slide into authoritarianism.
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On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover the President’s vile comments on Rob Reiner, attacks on more supposed drug boats, Trump’s $10 billion lawsuit against the BBC, and more.
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President Trump offered a disgusting response to the horrific death of Rob Reiner and his wife, narcissistically insisting they’d died of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” while delusionally claiming world-historical successes for himself. What surprised us was MAGA’s retort to this. Marjorie Taylor Greene offered a remarkably heartfelt reply to Trump, and the contrast between her measured tone and his unhinged, megalomaniacal cruelty had the effect of quietly humiliating him. Other MAGA figures piled on as well. We think this captures a deeper set of divisions inside MAGA, and indeed, it comes as other MAGA figures are now warning that the base is drifting away from Trump. Even Trump’s own pollster is sounding the alarm. We talked to New Republic senior editor Alex Shephard, who’s been writing well about Greene and MAGA. We discuss why Trump’s hold is weakening over his base and MAGA influencers alike, what Greene recognizes about Trump’s weakness that other Republicans don’t, and how this will likely get worse for Trump, to the benefit of Democrats.
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On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the tragic shooting at a Hanukkah event in Sydney, the election of far-right Kast in Chile, the conviction of a pro-democracy advocate in Hong Kong, and more.
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President Donald Trump keeps ranting furiously that “affordability” is a Democratic scam. But suddenly he’s now promoting video of himself talking about how devoted he is—really, truly—to doing something about costs (while angrily blaming Democrats for it). And that admits costs are a problem on his watch. Republicans want him to stabilize his message on affordability, but by lurching wildly back-and-forth, he’s sabotaging it. And even the very MAGA chair of the Republican National Committee is admitting the GOP faces a “looming disaster” in the midterms. Other MAGA figures are also sounding the alarm. There’s a reason Trump can’t escape this conundrum: His policies actually are making things a lot worse. We talked to economist Rob Shapiro, who has a good piece at Washington Monthly spelling this out. We discuss the true nature of the Tump-GOP conundrum, the deeper reasons Trump is so vulnerable on the economy, and why it’s all likely to get worse right through 2026.
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On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for December 12, we cover Indiana Republicans rejecting Trump’s gerrymandered map, the House overturning Trump’s executive order on bargaining rights, the Justice Department failing again to indict Letitia James, and more.
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It’s (almost) been one year of the Trump administration. Aside from, well everything else, how has US artificial intelligence policy evolved? Former Deputy National Cyber Director Camille Stewart Gloster joins David Rothkopf to grade the administration’s 2025 on AI, the state of public-private collaboration, the talent drain in the US, and more.
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President Trump erupted Thursday in a wild rage on Truth Social in which he appeared to blame pollsters for failing to register his world-historical success. “When will Polls reflect the Greatness of America at this point in time?” he fumed. Notably, this comes just after Democrats scored big wins in the Miami mayoral race and elsewhere, which analysts see as a sign that the Latino vote is shifting hard away from Trump. Not coincidentally, a new poll has Trump’s approval on immigration plunging below 40 percent. We talked to William Saletan, staff writer at The Bulwark, about his great new piece on Trump’s open agenda of ethnic persecution. We discuss the relationship between Trump’s racism and his unpopularity, what the latest GOP losses show about the collapse of the MAGA coalition, what to make of the GOP’s open embrace of full-bore ethnonationalism, and why it’s (somewhat) heartening that the public is rejecting it so decisively.
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The Republican Senate just voted against extending the Affordable Care Act. Twenty million people could lose their healthcare coverage soon, and the Republicans have yet to present a viable healthcare plan. Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf discuss this MAGApocalypse, the GOP implosion, and the dangerous consequences of a lame-duck Trump.
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AI’s huge energy needs are getting enormous media attention. AI’s potential to make energy more secure, clean and affordable is getting less attention. What would it take for AI’s impact on the energy system to be net-positive? What would that mean exactly? What examples help show the potential for AI to make positive contributions to the energy system? Join host David Sandalow as he discusses these topics and a new report called From Paradox to Progress: A Net-Positive AI Energy Framework with one of the report’s lead authors -- Ginelle Greene-Dewasmes, AI and Energy Lead at the World Economic Forum.
https://www.weforum.org/publications/from-paradox-to-progress-a-net-positive-ai-energy-framework/
https://icef.go.jp/wp-content/themes/icef_new/pdf/roadmap/icef2025_roadmap.pdf
https://icef.go.jp/wp-content/themes/icef_new/pdf/roadmap/icef2024_roadmap_AI-Climate-Second-Edition.pdf
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On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss the US seizing an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, Trump’s new $1m immigration visa scheme, Kristi Noem’s impending House hearing, and more.
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Donald Trump’s National Security Strategy is another nail in the coffin for U.S. foreign policy. Sadly, and unsurprisingly, it furthers MAGA’s anti-European ideology and only serves to benefit Russia, China, and other illiberal governments around the world. Ivo Daalder, President of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and former U.S. Ambassador to NATO, joins David Rothkopf and Rosa Brooks to discuss the concerning anti-European sentiment in Washington and the implications of this “strategy.”
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On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss huge Democratic victories in Miami and Georgia, dystopian social media disclosure rules for foreign tourists, Brad Lander launching a congressional bid, and more.
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In today’s episode, we talk to Representative Jamie Raskin about President Trump’s corrupt scheme to gerrymander the 2026 midterms—and about Raskin’s new ranked-choice-voting plan. Trump’s rage is growing as Indiana Republicans keep resisting his pressure to gerrymander their state, and he exploded in a wild Truth Social rant over the weekend. Yet for now, state Senate Republicans appear dug in. Worse for Trump, other Republicans are now beginning to argue that his scheme is backfiring. Why? Because Trump is hurting Republicans so badly that those whose seats are made somewhat less safe by gerrymandering might now be at risk. Raskin sees an opening to offer another way: Today he’s introducing a new bill that would require ranked choice voting in congressional races across the country. He tells us about the proposal, discusses how Trump’s gerrymandering chaos shows why ranked-choice is a better alternative, and urges Democrats to fight GOP tactics with hardball of their own.
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On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we discuss the administration’s huge bailout for farmers, the Supreme Court considering an end to limits on party spending, the first social media ban for minors in the world, and more.
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good job Donny.... could be I (GOD) will let ya get in to HEAVEN after all ... now all ya got to do is increase the ssdi by another 2.8 percent and ya could be mine... as in up there in HEAVEN... ok Donny my boy .. get on about it.... talk at ya later.. (GOD).... 😊😊😊😊
old man lost his marbles .... hey Jorgensen....
oh fuck man can't wait to see how bannon defends this .....
is it just me or trump is literally fucking everything up ,?
you are absolute morons.
Ukraine is America's war. Stop your b.s. the USA provoked this war through Nato expansion
so now AI is the messiah? Or the devil?
this is sickening. the holocaust is happening on Gaza and you ignore it. shame, total shame on all of you.
forget Trump's "base", because he doesn't give a damn about them. Or anyone because he can't run again he doesn't need them. now it's just about him and his "gut".
know this cause its true.... FEAR PARALYSES YOU DURING BATTLE.... BUT WHITE HOT RAGE WINS THAT BATTLE.... It is way better to be angry then scared.... scared gets you killed.... dont let anybody tell you that you're scared.... they're trying to weaken you.... don't trust anybody who tells you that you're scared.... be suspicious of everyone who tells you that you're scared.... you aint scared of nothing.... you're pissed off beyond description.... never scared... fuck fear....
instead of saying something scares you.... say.... something makes me extremely angry.... replace the word scared with angry.... you will feel much better....
what is this about?
I want to meet Grizzly..
canada.... ohh the lake life.... i cant wait.... go get em mr. president.... go get em....
starving under some bridge not an option just so the rich can get richer... take it any which way you like what i mean....
Democrats should vote in favor of Trump and Republican policy to expose all flaws in their rhetoric and agenda. All those Republican business owners who voted for Trump should deal with the consequences of their voting behaviour by losing their lowly paid migrant workforce. Time to pay people an honest wage for dangerous work like construction stop exploiting the migrant population, Accept them as immigrants, offer them citizenship.
shits bout to get real fucky... fuckers.... fuck offs are comin.... fuck you.... 😊😊😊😊
Trump has reviewed to me personally of his good intention of bringing eternal lasting peace solution in the middle. I believe he had the technical mechanism to solve the problem and bring lasting peace and prosperity I the Middle East
Americans voted for him to do what they wanted,and he is doing just that by assembling men who would help him revive the economy and American standing in the world
only dumb ass old people take trump seriously...