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For centuries, all sorts of people—generals and politicians, athletes and coaches, writers and leaders—have looked to the teachings of Stoicism to help guide their lives. Each day, author and speaker Ryan Holiday brings you a new lesson about life, inspired by the thoughts and writings of great Stoic thinkers like Marcus Aurelius and Seneca the Younger. Daily Stoic Podcast also features Q+As with listeners and interviews with notable figures from sports, academia, politics, and more. Learn more at DailyStoic.com.

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They can hate you, they can send you away, they can mock you or even kill you, but no one can take away those principles.Ask DS:Is Stoicism considered "self-help"? How can Stoicism be incorporated in daily life? + More!✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The East Side of Sorrow

The East Side of Sorrow

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Pain and suffering and loss are a part of life. It was a part of life for the rich and powerful Stoics like Marcus and Seneca, it was a part of life for the powerless like Epictetus, and it's a part of life today.✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
It’s easy to forget that the Stoics, Socrates, and other ancient philosophers were just like us—human and therefore imperfect. But in his new book How To Think Like Socrates, author Donald Robertson peels back the mythology around the ancient philosopher and shows how we can apply his wisdom in modern times. Donald returned to the Daily Stoic podcast to talk with Ryan about Socrates’ fascinating life, what his flaws were, and his enduring influence on the Stoics.Donald is a writer, cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist and trainer. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society for Public Health (RSPH). Donald specializes in teaching evidence-based psychological skills, and is known as an expert on the relationship between modern psychotherapy (CBT) and classical Greek and Roman philosophy.📚 Donald’s book, How to Think Like Socrates: Ancient Philosophy as a Way of Life in the Modern World, is out now! Pick up a signed copy at The Painted PorchGet a signed copy of Donald's other books Marcus Aurelius: The Stoic Emperor and How To Think Like A Roman Emperor: The Stoic Philosophy of Marcus Aurelius at The Painted Porch🎥 Watch Donald Robertson’s first interview with Ryan on YouTubeSubstackX: @donjrobertsonIG: @donaldjrobertson✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
You can’t be a student of the Stoics without reading the Stoics.Books mentioned: Letters From A Stoic by SenecaHardship and Happiness (The Complete Works of Lucius Annaeus Seneca) by SenecaHow To Keep Your Cool by SenecaOn the Shortness of Life: Life Is Long If You Know How to Use It by SenecaHow To Die by SenecaThe Enchiridion by EpictetusDiscourses by EpictetusThat One Should Disdain Hardships by Musonius RufusCall Sign Chaos by Jim Mattis📕 Pick up your own Premium Leather Edition of Meditations - Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays Translation) at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
You have been given an incredibly powerful too—this brain and imagination of yours. We have to direct these resources properly.🪙 Gain a powerful tool in your fight against anxiety and get the Daily Stoic Anxiety Coin today! https://store.dailystoic.com/📓 Pick up a signed edition of The Daily Stoic Journal: 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on The Art of Living: https://store.dailystoic.com/✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Tune in for an exclusive sneak peak into what Ryan talks about in his MasterClass, Using Ancient Wisdom to Solve Modern Problems. The first course was just released and the rest of the MasterClass will drop in four courses over the next couple of weeks. Head to dailystoic.com/masterclass to find those and learn more about the course today!✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
With over 40 documentaries under his belt, Ken Burns is one of the most iconic filmmakers of our time. His newest documentary, which features a brand-new filmmaking style from the director, explores the life and work of Leonardo da Vinci and marks the first non-American subject in any of his films.On today’s episode, Ken talks with Ryan about the significance of Stoicism among the Founders, the complexities of historical figures like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, plus the inspiring legacy of Da Vinci.Ken Burns has directed and produced historical documentaries for over 50 years. He has earned seventeen Emmy Awards, two Grammy Awards and two Oscar nominations so far throughout his career and his latest project, Leonardo da Vinci, is premiering on November 18. 🎥 Ken Burns latest documentary on Leonardo da Vinci premieres November 18 on PBS!Follow Ken Burns on Instagram @KenLBurns and on X @KenBurns.Check out Ken Burns’ full catalog of documentaries: https://kenburns.com/the-films/✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Life doesn’t go easy on any of us. It splits us in two…and half will have to do.📓 Grab your own leather bound signed edition of The Daily Stoic! Check it out at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
By living philosophically, we can learn to handle anything. This isn’t easy. But this is also a foundation for true well-being, happiness, and, as seen in the lives of Marcus, Cato, and many other Stoics.Ask DS:What are the overlaps between Eastern philosophy and Stoicism? Was there a particular obstacle that Ryan experienced that led him to Stoicism?💡 The first course of Ryan's MasterClass Using Ancient Wisdom to Solve Modern Problems is out now! Head to dailystoic.com/masterclass📚 Books Mentioned:Die With Zero by Bill Perkins | https://www.thepaintedporch.com/The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel | https://www.thepaintedporch.com/I Will Teach You To Be Rich by Ramit Sethi | https://www.thepaintedporch.com/🎥 Check out these interviews:Morgan Housel's Formula For Building Wealth and HappinessRamit Sethi on What It Means To Be Rich💡The Wealthy Stoic: A Daily Stoic Guide to Being Rich, Happy, and Free explores how stoic ideas can be applied to personal finance, wealth-building, financial mindset, and how it can help you overcome common financial obstacles and challengesGet The Wealthy Stoic: A Daily Stoic Guide to Being Rich, Happy, and Free & all other Daily Stoic courses for FREE when you join Daily Stoic Life | dailystoic.com/life✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The more you study philosophy the more you realize that parenting is a topic almost every tradition has spoken about. The Daily Dad is built around accessing that advice—one piece at a time, one day a time, just like The Daily Stoic. 📕 We’re excited to announce that we’ve put together a special leatherbound edition of The Daily Dad just in time for the holidays! Pick up a copy of the leatherbound edition of The Daily Dad at dailydad.com/leather✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
How can Stoicism be applicable for Gen Z and generations to come? As a Professor of Philosophy, Dr. Jennifer Baker has an insider's look into what resonates about ancient philosophy with college students today. Jennifer joins Ryan to discuss how she teaches the next generation about Stoicism, why Stoicism is a timeless tool we can all turn to, and the common misconceptions around virtue ethics. Dr. Jennifer Baker is a Professor at the College of Charleston. Her research is on virtue ethics, and she looks to ancient ethical theories as positive examples of how ethics ought to be done today. She teaches courses on ethical and political theory, environmental ethics and philosophy, business ethics, bioethics, and American philosophy.💡 Ryan Holiday’s MasterClass, Using Ancient Wisdom to Solve Modern Problems, is out on November 13! Head to dailystoic.com/masterclassCheck out Jennifer’s blog on Psychology Today: For the Love of Wisdom🎥 Watch Jennifer Baker’s first interview on The Daily Stoic on YouTube!✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Each yesterday is gone, dead. While there is a little grief, it also presents you an opportunity. a chance to begin afresh. 🗓️ The Daily Stoic Page-A-Day Desk Calendar reminds us of the chance to begin afresh with each new day. Pick up your own at store.dailystoic.com. 🎥 Watch the FULL video of Financial Freedom Won't Set You Free (These Stoic Tips Will) on YouTube!✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Whether you’re excited about the direction of the country or not, you still have to focus on what’s in your control (which is you).📓 Pick up a signed edition of The Daily Stoic Journal: 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on The Art of Living: https://store.dailystoic.com/🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Seneca lived in a chaotic, dangerous, and unpredictable time. Listen in to this letter he wrote about how to stay sane in a crazy world and his advice for avoiding jealousy, hatred, and divisiveness. Today’s episode is an excerpt from The Tao Of Seneca produced by Tim Ferriss’ Audio. Get the free PDF at tim.blog/seneca🎙️ Listen to other letters from Seneca: Seneca on Despising DeathSeneca on Conquering the ConquerorSeneca on Philosophy and Friendship Seneca on Practicing What You Preach📚 Grab a copy of How to Keep Your Cool: An Ancient Guide to Anger Management by Seneca | https://www.thepaintedporch.com/✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In the age of virality and trending TikTok songs, Mt. Joy rose to fame through the band’s authentic storytelling and community building within the indie music scene. On today’s episode, Mt. Joy’s lead singer Matt Quinn makes his return to the Daily Stoic studio to discuss the band’s surge in popularity since his first appearance a couple years back. Ryan and Matt also talk about how Matt manages performance anxiety before going on stage, the evolving perception of success in the music industry, and the band’s recent world tour that included performances at iconic venues like Madison Square Garden. 🎙️ Listen to Matt's first interview on The Daily Stoic | Apple Podcasts & SpotifyYou can follow Matt at @MattQuinnMJ on Instagram and on TikTok @MtJoyBand If you want to see Matt and the band in concert, head to mtjoyband.com and you can check out their upcoming tour schedule ✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Don’t follow Cato’s example. Keep fighting for virtue and the common good.🎥 Watch Patrick Dempsey’s interview on YouTube 🎥 Watch Matthew McConaughey's interview on YouTube📓 Grab your own leather bound signed edition of The Daily Stoic! Check it out at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
To survive success and fame and power, to be virtuous in such a situation, one must make it the work of their life.Ask DS: How does Ryan approach instilling Stoicism in his kids? What is Ryan currently thinking about when it comes to investments and business?+ More! 🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour📕 Pick up your own Premium Leather Edition of Meditations - Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays Translation) at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/💡The Wealthy Stoic: A Daily Stoic Guide to Being Rich, Happy, and Free explores how stoic ideas can be applied to personal finance, wealth-building, financial mindset, and how it can help you overcome common financial obstacles and challengesGet The Wealthy Stoic: A Daily Stoic Guide to Being Rich, Happy, and Free & all other Daily Stoic courses for FREE when you join Daily Stoic Life | dailystoic.com/life✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
As a Stoic, nothing in an election changes what is asked or obligated of you. You are still expected to be a person of virtue. 📕 Pick up a copy of Lives of the Stoics by Ryan Holiday | https://store.dailystoic.com/🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We’ve all heard of Marcus Aurelius, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, but what about Henry V? British historian Dan Jones joins Ryan today to talk about why Henry V was one of the most unique Kings throughout history, how we can understand the current state of the world by looking at historical patterns, and unbelievable stories of discovering historical evidence. Dan Jones is a British historian, TV presenter, journalist, and author of Henry V: The Astonishing Triumph of England's Greatest Warrior King.  Dan has also written the bestselling books Powers and Thrones, The Templars, Essex Dogs, and more. Check out Dan's Netflix Series which he wrote and starred in - Secrets of Great British Castles! You can follow Dan on Instagram @d_a_n_jones, check out his newsletter danjones.substack.com, and listen to his podcast This is History: A Dynasty to Die For. 🎟 Ryan Holiday is going on tour! Grab tickets for London, Rotterdam, Dublin, Vancouver, and Toronto at ryanholiday.net/tour✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
As individuals what is up to us is whether these bad times make us a bad person, whether hard events harden our hearts, whether the wrongs of the world make us do wrong.📕 Grab a signed copy of Right Thing, Right Now by Ryan Holiday | https://store.dailystoic.com/📚 Pick up a signed, numbered first-edition of the 10th Anniversary Edition of The Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday at dailystoic.com/obstacle✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Tarlan Masiha

is there any transcript for the episodes?

Nov 8th
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R Burton

this is unlistenable,the obstacles in your podcast are not the way, unsubbed

Oct 12th
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Ruben Carlo Benante

very nice talk, thanks

Aug 28th
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SPYDOR

Duplicate content from the previous episode, released at the same time.

Apr 16th
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Amin Slami

the podcast is a great

Feb 24th
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Rob Woodhead

Is the Ask DS section a repeat from a previous episode? Or was it just the intro that seemed to be a repeat?!

Feb 8th
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SPYDOR

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Oct 1st
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SPYDOR

FIVE ads in the first 7 minutes, then a couple more for good measure at the end: what a clown.

Aug 31st
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SPYDOR

5-mins of ads in just over 8 mins: utter BS.

Aug 30th
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SPYDOR

Less than 1/3 of this is actual content; most of the rest is adverts. What a complete waste of time.

Aug 27th
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Ali Raisi

It was awsome

Aug 27th
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Aakash Amanat

I've been a follower of "The Daily Stoic" for quite some time now, and I must say, it has been an absolute game-changer in my life. The timeless wisdom and practical insights drawn from Stoic philosophy have a remarkable way of grounding me amidst life's chaos. https://www.pinterest.com/custombutcherpaper/ Every morning, as I delve into the day's Stoic meditation, I find myself reflecting on its teachings throughout the day. It's fascinating how these ancient principles are so incredibly relevant in our modern lives. From managing stress and adversity to embracing change and cultivating gratitude, the Stoic philosophy offers a robust toolkit for navigating the complexities of existence. https://muckrack.com/prime-butcher-wrap

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Brandy C.

Stoicism is so interesting, unlike dudes stroking it to the sound of their own voices, which is what the first 20 minutes of this sounded like. Gross.

Jun 3rd
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JJ

seamless transition from 'money lust is bad' to 'buy my course' at the start there.

Jun 1st
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VIEW2

@33:14 funny to mention a 35 being a pattern of time (in development)

Apr 8th
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VIEW2

@26:00 UTOPIC THINKING

Apr 8th
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