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Learn about the latest threat and cybersecurity trends on The Defender’s Advantage Podcast! Hear from experts in the field as Host Luke McNamara, from Google Threat Intelligence Group, interviews analysts, researchers and other guests on the frontlines of the latest attacks. Episodes dive deep into various topics, including nation-state activity, cybercrime, malware and tradecraft, incident response, defensive guidance, and more. Don't forget to subscribe!
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Michelle Cantos (Senior Analyst, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss some of the recent trends in underground marketplaces around the selling of illicit AI tools and services. Michelle discusses GTIG's research into this space, how threat actors are seeking to leverage these models, use cases being discussed, and more.
Host Luke McNamara is joined by members of Mandiant Consulting's Operational Technology team (Chris Sistrunk, Seemant Bisht, and Anthony Candarini) to discuss their latest blog on securing assets in the energy grid. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/securing-protection-relays-modern-substations
Dima Lenz (Security Engineer, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss how threat actors have been using ClickFix to socially engineer users. Dima recounts the growth of this technique in 2024, some of the campaigns and actors that have leveraged it, and where it may be headed next.
Nick Guttilla and Emily Astranova, from Mandiant Consulting's Offensive Security team, join host Luke McNamara for an episode on voice-based phishing, or "vishing." Nick and Emily cover their respective blogs and experiences, diving into how they employ vishing techniques to social engineer organizations--both organically and using AI-powered voice cloning to mimic specific employees--during red team engagements. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/technical-a...
JP Glab (Mandiant Consulting) joins host Luke to discuss responding to activity from North Korean IT workers. He walks through what initially triggered the investigation at this organization, how it progressed in parallel with an HR investigation, and ultimately what was discovered. For more on the DPRK IT workers and trends in incident response, check out Mandiant's 2025 M-Trends report. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/m-trends-2025
Matt Lin (Senior Incident Response Consultant, Mandiant) and Daniel Spicer (Chief Security Officer, Ivanti) dive into the research and response of UNC5221's campaigns against Ivanti. They cover how this threat actor has evolved from earlier campaigns, the continued focus of edge infrastructure by APT actors, and the shared responsibility of security in mitigating threats like this. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/china-nexus-exploiting-critical-ivanti-vulnerabil...
Host Luke McNamara is joined by GTIG Senior Security Researcher Rohit Nambiar to discuss Rohit's recent blog on some interesting usage of RDP by UNC5837. Rohit covers the discovery of the campaign, and the novel functionalities they were using to likely support cyber espionage goals. He delves into these findings and the usage of RemoteApps and victim file mapping via RDP, and closes with some of the mysteries that remain about this activity. https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-...
Imran Ahmad (Senior Partner, Canadian Head of Technology and Canadian Co-Head of Cybersecurity and Data Privacy at Norton Rose Fulbright) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss how executives are thinking about cyber risk in a changing and evolving landscape. He touches on the importance of training before a breach, how ransomware has changed security conversations with boards, and the promise and risk of emerging technologies like AI play for enterprises.
Kelli Vanderlee, Kate Morgan, and Jamie Collier join host Luke McNamara to discuss trends that are top of mind for them in tracking emergent threats this year, from nation state intrusions to financially motivated ransomware campaigns. https://cloud.google.com/security/resources/cybersecurity-forecast https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/cybercrime-multifaceted-national-security-threat
Dan Black (Principal Analyst, Google Threat Intelligence Group) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss the research into Russia-aligned threat actors seeking to compromise Signal Messenger. Dan lays out how this latest evolution of Russia's usage of cyber in Ukraine compares to previous phases of the conflict, how this activity is likely supporting battlefield operations, and how users of secure messaging applications can mitigate some of the risks associated with activity like this. https...
Steph Hay (Senior Director for Gemini Product and UX, Google Cloud Security) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss agentic AI and its implications for security disciplines. Steph walks through how generative AI is already impacting the finding of threats, reduction of toil, and the scaling up of workforce talent, before discussing how agents will increasingly play a role in operationalizing security. Steph details how this automation of processes, with humans in the loop, can increase the capab...
Jibran Ilyas (Consulting Leader, Mandiant Consulting) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss remediation as part of incident response. Jibran covers various scenarios (espionage and ransomware) and how they may differ in approaching remediation, how types of architecture could shape remediation efforts, non-technical components of the remediation phase, and more.
Mandiant Senior Consultant Alishia Hui joins host Luke McNamara to discuss all things tabletop exercise related. Alishia walks through the elements of a tabletop exercise, important preparatory steps, the success factors for a good exercise, and how organizations can implement lessons learned. https://cloud.google.com/transform/the-empty-chair-guess-whos-missing-from-your-cybersecurity-tabletop-exercise https://www.mandiant.com/sites/default/files/2021-09/ds-tabletop-exercise-000005-2...
Vicente Diaz, Threat Intelligence Strategist at VirusTotal, joins host Luke McNamara to discuss his research into using LLMs to analyze malware. Vicente covers how he used Gemini to analyze various windows binaries, the use cases this could help address for security operations, technical challenges with de-obfuscation, and more. For more on this topic: https://blog.virustotal.com/2023/04/introducing-virustotal-code-insight.html https://blog.virustotal.com/2024/04/analyzing-malware-in-binari...
Josh Fleischer, Principal Security Analyst with Mandiant's Managed Defense organization sits down with host Luke McNamara to discuss trends in MFA bypass and how threat actors are conducting adversary in the middle (AiTM) attacks to gain access to targeted organizations. Josh walks through a case study of MFA bypass, how token theft occurs, the increasing amount of AiTM activity with more features being added to phishing kits, and more.
Host Luke McNamara is joined by Clement Lecigne, security researcher at Google's Threat Analysis Group (TAG) to discuss his work tracking commercial surveillance vendors (CSVs). Clement dives into the history and evolution of the CSV industry, how these entities carry out operations against platforms like mobile, and the nexus of this problem into the increasing rise of zero-day exploitation. For more on TAG's work on CSVs: https://blog.google/threat-analysis-group/state-backed-attacke...
Mandiant APT Researcher Ofir Rozmann joins host Luke McNamara to discuss some notable Iranian cyber espionage actors and what they have been up to in 2024. Ofir covers campaigns from suspected IRGC-nexus actors such as APT42 and APT35-related clusters, as well as activity from TEMP.Zagros. For more on this topic, please see: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/tool-of-first-resort-israel-hamas-war-in-cyber/ https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intellige...
Mandiant Consultants Trisha Alexander, Muhammed Muneer, and Pat McCoy join host Luke McNamara to discuss Mandiant's recently launched services for securing AI. They discuss how organizations can proactively approach securing the implementation of AI workloads, red-team and test these security controls protecting generative AI models in production, and then also employ AI within the security organization itself. For more, please see: https://cloud.google.com/security/solutions/mandiant-...
Mandiant consultants Will Silverstone (Senior Consultant) and Omar ElAhdan (Principal Consultant) discuss their research into cloud compromise trends over 2023. They discuss living off the land techniques in the cloud, the concept of the extended cloud attack surface, how organizations can better secure their identities, third party cloud compromise trends, and more. Will and Omar's talk at Google Next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg13kGsN9ok&t=2s
Michael Raggi (Principal Analyst, Mandiant Intelligence) joins host Luke McNamara to discuss Mandiant's research into China-nexus threat actors using proxy networks known as “ORBs” (operational relay box networks). Michael discusses the anatomy and framework Mandiant developed to map out these proxy networks, how ORB networks like SPACEHOP are leveraged by China-nexus APTs, and what this all means for defenders. For more, check out: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-int...
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