The Dev Morning Show (At Night)

This episode features an interview with Alexis Morin, a Design System Lead. Alexis has over 15 years of experience collaborating with teams and organizations to create and ship digital experiences, working with brands like Google, Meta, and Audi.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Alexis to discuss what a design system is, removing biases in your work, and over-optimizing Duolingo experience points.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(01:32): What Alexis is working on right now(03:22): What Alexis’ day-to-day looks like(08:47): What tools Alexis uses(09:46): How Alexis got into the industry(12:48): Rapid Fire Questions(24:34): Random Segment Generator(31:20): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I always try to keep in mind, and this is a design rule, that the people who will be using the thing that you're making, it's probably not you. A lot of the times, we want to build something and the intent is, ‘This is how I would do it.’ But at the end of the day, that's rarely the case. It's important to just keep that in mind and sometimes you just exercise a little bit of empathy, put some empathy into your work. And that can go a long way into removing some biases that we all have.” – Alexis Morin-------------------Links:Visit Interaction 23Twitter - Follow AlexisTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Jeri Ellsworth, CEO and Co-founder of Tilt Five, a modern-day tabletop gaming kit powered by augmented reality technology. Jeri is a lifelong gamer, inventor, creator, and one of the world’s leading AR experts. Her love of invention began with building race cars before transitioning to hardware design. In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Jeri discuss AR tabletop games, choosing your career path, and appreciating the history of technology.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(02:22): What Jeri is working on right now(12:02): What Jeri’s day-to-day looks like(16:26): What tools Jeri uses(18:33): How Jeri got into the industry(26:42): Rapid Fire Questions(38:25): Random Segment Generator(46:54): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“Sometimes people look at my journey and sometimes it's like a hero's journey; dropout of high school, get into racing, brute force my way into different fields and learn it all myself. For some people, that's a really good direction to go. I've always been non-traditional in the way I think about things and do things, and so, very rigid schooling never really resonated with me. But, it depends. It depends on your personality. Some people are better served to have a more rigorous path. It definitely hasn't been easy, so I don't recommend it unless you have a personality like me.” – Jeri Ellsworth-------------------Links:Visit Tilt Five’s WebsiteTwitter - Follow JeriTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Anjana Vakil, Software Engineer, Educator, and Freelance DevRel Consultant. Anjana’s passion for computational linguistics and software development led her to engineering and developer advocate roles at companies such as Mapbox, Observable, and Hasura. She also travels the world to speak about the joy of programming and advocate for a more equitable and ethical tech industry.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Anjana to discuss burnout, developing a healthy relationship with work, and the novelty of flip phones.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(00:32): What Anjana is working on right now(04:44): What Anjana’s day-to-day looks like(07:42): What tools Anjana uses(11:37): How Anjana got into the industry(18:30): Rapid Fire Questions(34:45): Random Segment Generator(48:37): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I like many people, I think, during the last few years, especially during the lockdown times, really set myself on a bullet train for burnout town. And so, now trying to figure out a more sustainable way to be working and still protecting that inner core, that little flame of creativity and curiosity that I think is so important to be able to continuously do really good work over the long term. But, it's so easy to neglect in the short term and let just sputter out.” – Anjana Vakil-------------------Links:The Recurse CenterOutreachyTwitter - Follow AnjanaTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Charlyn Gonda, Senior Software Engineer at Pave. Charlyn’s impressive career journey saw her take on roles at Google and Uber as both a developer advocate and engineer. She believes that technology is made better when people collaborate in open platforms and diverse communities.In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Charlyn discuss hoarding technology, being kind, and creating WiFi message cubes.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(02:14): What Charlyn is working on right now(08:13): What Charlyn’s day-to-day looks like(12:25): What tools Charlyn uses(16:30): How Charlyn got into the industry(19:53): Rapid Fire Questions(31:37): Random Segment Generator(38:26): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I get this question of like, ‘I want to make things but I don't know how to start.’ And, ‘What do you pick up first?’ And, ‘Should I buy a 3D printer?’ And my answer is always, ‘It depends on what you want to make.’ Because, if you start from the tool, while the novelty effect is active, you're going to have so much fun with the new tool. But then if you didn't have a thing that you wanted to build with it, then the novelty effect will wear off and then you're left with this fancy tool that you don't know what to do with.” – Charlyn Gonda-------------------Links:Visit Charlyn’s websiteTwitter - Follow CharlynMastodon - Follow CharlynInstagram - Follow CharlynHow To Make a WiFi Message CubeTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Julie Yang, Vice President of Product at Spec. Julie’s extensive career took her to companies like Bloomberg, Bain & Company, and Bestow Life Insurance where she served as a software developer, management consultant, and product manager.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Julie to discuss prioritizing productivity, setting boundaries, and the meaning of life.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(01:21): What Julie is working on right now(02:44): What Julie’s day-to-day looks like(07:09): How Julie got into the industry(15:58): Rapid Fire Questions(29:16): Random Segment Generator(37:43): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“In a hybrid or full remote work position, people try to demonstrate that they're on the job or that they're working. And so the most visible way to do this day-to-day, ends up being responsiveness. And so, people are always breaking their focus time to respond to a work chat, email. Or some people just like helping other people and interacting when they're at home with their coworkers through these chat programs. I think it turns out to be like a fire drill kind of way of working, where you just work on whatever pops up. Which I don't think is necessarily the most prioritized way of working.” – Julie Yang-------------------Links:Visit SpecTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

Dust off your ugly sweaters because we’re getting into the holiday spirit on this episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! Cassidy and Zach are looking back at their favorite moments from the show; discussing the best guest advice, answers that stuck with them, and their plans for the holiday season.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(01:32): Cassidy and Zach discuss the holiday season(06:02): The hosts dive into their career backgrounds(18:14): Favorite guest moments(27:16): Dev Opposites moments(40:46): Favorite advice from guests-------------------“People go for the big titles of being a manager of some kind because they think that's what they have to do. And that can really affect your team and affect your team's performance, that can affect so many different things. If you as a manager don't actually want to be a manager, or if you end up having a manager that just wants the title and power and the growth on their resume, rather than actually wanting to be in that kind of role.” – Cassidy Williams-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Michael Chan, creator, podcaster, and Developer Experience Engineer at Chromatic. With over a decade of experience, Michael’s career saw him work with companies like Ministry Centered Technologies, The Pocket Group, and Sonic Boom Wellness. He’s also the host of the React Podcast and he built lunch.dev, the friendliest coding community for creative, curious, and compassionate web developers.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Michael to discuss the importance of being kind, learning how to make amends, and their favorite holiday bites.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(06:26): What Michael is working on right now(09:50): What Michael’s day-to-day looks like(16:04): What tools Michael uses(19:26): How Michael got into the industry(23:28): Rapid Fire Questions(34:31): Random Segment Generator(42:14): What Michael is excited about in the software world(43:40): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“Something that I heard early on is that there's a staggering lack of kind people in tech, and I think that's still true. I think it was maybe more true now. I think that there are just nicer people in the world in general now, but I think that it's very true that you can go really far by just not being a jerk and just being someone that people don't hate being around.” – Michael Chan-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow MichaelYouTube - Follow MichaelReact HolidayTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Chloe Shih, Product Manager and Communities Engagement Lead at Discord. Chloe specializes in building products for the creator industry like moderation tools, community engagement features, and safety mechanisms tackling harassment and bullying. She has previously worked for large tech companies like Google, Facebook, and TikTok. In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Chloe discuss the power in saying “no,” not taking things too seriously, and following the dreams of your inner child.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(03:45): What Chloe’s day-to-day looks like(06:28): What tools Chloe uses(08:26): How Chloe got into the industry(13:27): Rapid Fire Questions(21:06): Random Segment Generator(29:22): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I think something that I learned that I'm really proud of, that I'm still learning, is saying ‘no’ to others isn't just letting someone else down, but it's saying ‘yes’ to me and that's something I need to keep reminding myself of. [...] You don't want to break this image of you that you can do it all, and the fact is, you can't, which is fine. But you need to know what you're losing when you say ‘yes’ to them.” – Chloe Shih-------------------Links:YouTube - Follow ChloeInstagram - Follow ChloeTikTok - Follow ChloeTwitter - Follow ChloeTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Salma Alam-Naylor, Developer Experience Engineer at Netlify. Originally beginning her career as a music teacher, Salma transitioned to technology in 2014, working as a front end developer and tech lead. She also writes code live on Twitch to bring inclusive and accessible technology to people around the world.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Salma to discuss how music and code influence each other, streaming, and saving engineering for last.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(01:58): What Salma is working on(07:33): What Salma’s day-to-day looks like(11:13): What tools Salma uses(14:42): How Salma got into the industry(21:18): Rapid Fire Questions(34:43): Random Segment Generator(43:56): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I approach writing code like I approached my composition, especially with functional programming. It's about motifs and repeatable things. You have an overarching journey that you want to take. A beginning, a middle, and an end, basically, even on a function level or an architecture level. It’s exactly the same thing. It's not even about maths, I think it's just about logic and problem solving and creativity.” – Salma Alam-Naylor-------------------Links:Twitch - Follow SalmaTwitter - Follow SalmaTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Dalia Abo Sheasha, Senior Product Manager at Microsoft. Dalia has spent a decade of her career developing application servers and developer tools in the Java ecosystem and has contributed to open source projects like Open Liberty and EclipseLink (JPA). Dalia’s passions lie in teaching, mentoring, and making technology more accessible to developers around the world.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Dalia to discuss ‘it depends’ questions, developer tools, and writing digestible code.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(03:36): What Dalia’s day-to-day looks like(04:37): What tools Dalia uses(07:12): What got Dalia into the industry(11:55): Zach and Cassidy share how they got into the industry(14:37): Rapid Fire Questions(21:21): Random Segment Generator(26:53): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“Keeping a developer in that flow state where they're writing code most of the time is the most important job of any tool. Whatever tool gets a developer to that point in time where they're just writing code, writing code, writing code, and not worrying about switching context at all, I think that's the best tool you could use.” – Dalia Abo Sheasha-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow DaliaIntro to DockerTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

Grab an Uncrustable and settle in for the newest episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! This episode features an interview with Christina Zhu, Software Engineer at Square. Christina is a conference speaker, tech enthusiast, and she founded her university’s hackathon, HackDavis. In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Christina to discuss the importance of asking for help, Myspace, and Pokémon.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(06:41): What Christina’s day-to-day looks like(07:58): What editors and terminals Christina uses(09:16): What got Christina into the industry(14:59): Rapid Fire Questions(24:49): Random Segment Generator(35:10): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I think the most important thing that I've actually learned over the years is just learning how to ask for help after a certain point. If you have the resource of having really smart people around you, the fastest way to learn is actually by reaching out and asking for their advice.” – Christina Zhu-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow ChristinaTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Brian Rinaldi, Developer Experience Engineer at LaunchDarkly. With over 20 years of developer experience under his belt, Brian has worked with front-end and back-end technologies focusing on the web. He also serves as the editor for the JAMstacked and Mobile Dev Weekly newsletters, co-author of The Jamstack Book, and is on the board of directors for Orlando Developers.In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Brian dive into perfectionism, delivery of code versus quality of code, and learning how to adapt.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(02:06): What Brian is working on at LaunchDarkly(04:28): What Brian’s day-to-day looks like(08:57): Rapid Fire Questions(20:45): Random Segment Generator(37:28): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I loved to learn and I was so into learning new stuff and new frameworks. There was always a slightly more perfect way to do something. [...] I was overly focused on the quality of my code and under focused on delivering the code.” – Brian Rinaldi-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow Briancfe.devLaunchDarklyTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

Grab a whiskey and tuck in for the latest episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! This episode features an interview with Taylor Poindexter, Software Engineering Manager at Spotify.In this episode, Cassidy and Zach sit down with Taylor to discuss Black Code Collective, being an empathetic manager, and Taylor’s favorite whiskey.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(03:19): What Taylor’s day-to-day looks like(06:40): What got Taylor into the industry(10:53): Rapid Fire Questions(18:50): Random Segment Generator(25:44): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I got into management because I knew what it was like to have a bad manager and I knew the impacts that that can have on you. I feel like I'm a pretty good people person and I'm very empathetic, and so I wanted to give that to other people.” – Taylor Poindexter-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow TaylorInstagram - Follow TaylorBlack Code CollectiveTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

It’s a family affair episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! This episode features an interview with Cami Williams, Cassidy’s sister and Zach’s friend since high school! Cami is an Engineering Manager for Platform Advocacy at Meta, where she supports the Metaverse ecosystem.In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Cami take a trip down memory lane, and dive into mixed reality experiences and breaking YouTube in France.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(01:09): Cami’s role at Meta(05:56): What Cami’s day-to-day looks like(17:53): Rapid Fire Questions(25:31): Random Segment Generator(34:05): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“Test-driven development has saved me so much time and my sanity throughout the years. I started doing it because I would be the person who would write the whole feature and then write the tests and then everything would break. But, starting with writing the tests and then going off of that to build your feature, for me, it works every time and it just makes life so much easier.” – Cami Williams-------------------Links:Twitter - Follow CamiMeta Open Source ChannelsLinkedIn - Connect with CamiTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page

This episode features an interview with Sara Vieira, Founding Engineer at axo. At the time of this recording, Sara was working at Remote as a Senior Frontend Developer. As a developer with nearly a decade of experience, Sara has formed a few controversial opinions over the years.In this episode, Cassidy, Zach, and Sara discuss QueerJS (a meetup series for queer folks), why good code is overrated, and if TypeScript is really necessary.-------------------Episode Timestamps:(02:26): Sara’s inspiration for founding QueerJS(05:51): What Sara’s day-to-day looks like(13:01): Rapid Fire Questions(22:26): Random Segment Generator(31:14): Cassidy’s Sage Advice-------------------“I think good code is overrated. And this is a very controversial thing to say, but I don't think code is art. I think code has a purpose and the purpose is to build something. And even if your code is not the nicest, as long as it works, it doesn't matter. In the end, your user doesn't care if your code looks nice.” – Sara Vieira-------------------Links:QueerJSTwitter - Follow SaraTwitter - Follow CassidyTwitter - Follow ZachThe Dev Morning Show (At Night) YouTube Page