Journalist Tyler Austin Harper joins to share the downsides of gatekeeping articles behind paywalls, the pitfalls of AI, why major corporations aren’t pushing back against AI, the detrimental environmental impact of data centers, and why making excuses for owning a Tesla has gotta stop.Follow Tyler Austin Harper on XRead Tyler Austin Harper's work at The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/tyler-austin-harper/Listen to Tyler Austin Harper's podcast, Time to Say Goodbye: https://open.spotify.com/show/2VDotDYnXzAAeCA0FFNW1D?si=1db3a31a684341c4--Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/DOWNSIDE. Promo Code DOWNSIDERight now, go to https://www.greenchef.com/DOWNSIDEGRAZA and use code DOWNSIDEGRAZA to get started with 50% off Green Chef + FREE Graza Olive Oil Set in your 2nd and 3rd boxes. This 50% off offer is only available for a limited time, so don't wait.--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell unpack Bari Weiss’s interview with Erika Kirk on CBS News.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Sarah Sherman (SNL) joins to share the downsides of naming your improv team after a fetish, getting bullied in high school, battling intrusive thoughts with comedy, lying to get a job, and why blocking subway doors has gotta stop.Follow Sarah Sherman on Instagram, TikTok, & XWatch Sarah Sherman's new comedy special, Sarah Squirm: Live + In the Flesh, out on HBO on December 12: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/sarah-squirm-live-in-the-flesh/5d79e162-5a0a-4177-9021-79bac1836b07--Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/DOWNSIDE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsoredExclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/DOWNSIDE. Promo Code DOWNSIDETo get 15% off your unique gifts this year, go to https://uncommongoods.com/downside--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell share the downsides of witnessing Hillary Clinton’s mission to be the most insufferable politician of all time.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Cody Rigsby (Peloton) joins to share the downsides of getting recognized at Fire Island, settling the Xtina vs Britney debate, learning the difference between boofing and enemas, and why ugly boyfriends have gotta stop.Follow Cody Rigsby on Instagram & TikTokListen to Cody Rigsby & Andrew Chappelle's podcast, Tactful Pettiness: lnk.to/TactfulPettinessRide with Cody on Peloton: https://www.onepeloton.com/instructors/codyrigsby--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell share the downsides of watching Ryan Murphy’s new show “All’s Fair” starring Kim Kardashian, Sarah Paulson, Niecy Nash, and Glenn Close.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Jim Gaffigan joins to share the downsides of fatherhood, sharing the stage with your son, becoming obsessed with bourbon, the challenge of writing political jokes, clocking Gianmarco on having Catholic views, and why slow walkers have gotta stop. Follow Jim Gaffigan on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, X, and FacebookWatch Jim Gaffigan's new stand-up special, Jim Gaffigan: Live from Old Forester — The Bourbon Set, on YouTubeSee Jim Gaffigan in a city near you: https://www.jimgaffigan.com/tour-dates--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell share the downsides of conservative comedians on GoFundMe. Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Atsuko Okatsuka returns to share the downsides of martial-law-imposed generational trauma, trying to get your mom laid, learning English through American cartoons, finding your own personal style, and why bananas have gotta stop. Follow Atsuko Okatsuka on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, X, and FacebookWatch Atsuko's new stand-up special, Atsuko Okatsuka: Father, on HuluSee Atsuko in a city near you: https://atsukocomedy.com/--Make this fall your healthiest yet with Green Chef. Head to https://www.greenchef.com/50DOWNSIDE and use code 50DOWNSIDE to get 50% off your first month, then 20% off for two months with free shipping!--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive episode, Gianmarco and Russell review the newly leaked Epstein emails.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The one and only Hasan Piker joins to share the downsides of being well endowed, identifying as culturally Muslim, the secret sauce to debates, getting detained at the US border, and why people calling themselves moderates have gotta stop. Follow Hasan Piker on Twitch, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and XWatch/listen to Hasan Piker's podcast, Fear&: https://www.youtube.com/@FearAndPodcast--Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/DOWNSIDE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsored For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit Hims.com/DOWNSIDEControl Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code DOWNSIDE at shopmando.com! #mandopod--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Gianmarco and Russell are live from Portland, and share the downsides of going to a vegan strip club at 2 PM. Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month! https://www.patreon.com/downside--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Jim Norton joins to share the downsides of releasing a podcast episode on election day, spilling your guts on a slow news day, moving to NYC after 9/11, agreeing to disagree with the far right, and why calling comedians modern day philosophers has gotta stop.Follow Jim Norton on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and XSee Jim Norton in a city near you: https://www.jimnorton.com/tourWatch/listen to Jim Norton' podcast, Jim Norton Can't Save You: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLDawp_60VjvcRsqHMOb69YONmbhh8K_H--Give and get timeless holiday staples that last this season with Quince. Go to Quince.com/DOWNSIDE for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too.--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive episode, Gianmarco and Russell discuss which side of the fence they’re on in Sydney Sweeney’s dressgate.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Stavros Halkias joins to share the downsides of Greeks making bootleg versions of American TV & music, the similarities between football practice and wartime training, which hand we’re using, and why the 2 day digital movie rental has gotta stop.Follow Stavros Halkias on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and XSee Stavros Halkias in a city near you: https://www.stavvy.biz/#tourWatch/listen to Stavros Halkias' podcast, Stavvy's World: https://www.youtube.com/@stavvysworld--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell break down Andrew Cuomo's deleted racist AI ad against Zohran Mamdani voters, and figure out what's the smelliest room in the White House. Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Blair Socci joins to share the downsides of opening a show with jokes about your predatory high school volleyball coach, getting diagnosed with autism as an adult, experiencing a life-saving facial, and why there are a LOT of things that have gotta stop.Follow Blair Socci on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and FacebookSee Blair in a city near you: https://punchup.live/blairsocciWatch Blair's special, "Live from the Big Dog" on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oyau71a5XE--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartExecutive Producer - Anya KanevskayaVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell recap Gianmarco MC’ing Zohran Mamdani’s rally in Brooklyn.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Comedian Roy Wood Jr. returns to share the downsides of comedians sh*t talking, the role entertainment plays in politics, making life decisions in the pursuit of happiness, and why standing too close to the grill master has gotta stop.Follow Roy Wood Jr. on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and XPre-order Roy Wood Jr.'s new book, The Man of Many Fathers, at: https://roywoodjrbook.com/--This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this Patreon exclusive excerpt, Gianmarco and Russell share the downsides of finding out Candice Owens is a fan, and where to draw the line in comedy.Watch the full episode exclusively on Patreon, and join for only $5 a month: https://www.patreon.com/downside---This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.The Downside with Gianmarco Soresi has a Patreon! Subscribe here for two bonus episodes every month and access to exclusive content!Follow Gianmarco Soresi on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, and TwitterFollow Russell Daniels on InstagramFollow the show on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTokProduced by Paige Asachika & Gianmarco SoresiTechnical production by Ty ColgateVideo edited by Dave ColumboSpecial Thanks Tovah SilbermannOriginal music by Douglas GoodhartVP of Development & Production at Headgum - Kaiti MoosSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Louise Nobrega
I can't stop thinking about Adam Driver when it comes to this topic lol (im sorry adam)
Ripley
Julia Styles?
Gabriel Monteiro
this is my favorite episode of the podcast, so fucking funny. Fantastic guest, great themes 10/10
Melissa Hartis
washing feet!!!
Minty Emerald
I'm Cleaning a roller grill in a small town gasstation for less the minimum wage, in a lot of contrys, while listening to these rich comedians talk about private jets. just for perspective