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The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast
Author: Dr. Amer F. Ahmed
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In our polarizing times, many of the greatest challenges in creating a more equitable and just world stems from our lack of understanding of one another. ‘Eclectic Inclusion’ features diverse and unique voices who have unlocked their own potential to have a meaningful impact on others through art, education and activism. Each person will share how their unique backgrounds and experiences have shaped their journey to become change-agents for a more inclusive world. All of these individuals are educators and will discuss their perspectives on inclusive teaching and learning. Hosted by Dr. Amer F. Ahmed, an educator and consultant on diversity, equity and inclusion in higher education and other organizational settings; 'Eclectic Inclusion' will feature dynamic individuals in his network that will inspire, motivate and challenge listeners to create inclusive environments.
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In our global, ever shifting world, cultural awareness and adaptability are extremely valuable tools. Dr. Alta Mauro’s expertise shines, as she recounts tales from her days living in Abu Dhabi while navigating a unique racial, social, and economic landscape. As the Associate Dean of Inclusion & Belonging at Harvard College, she adeptly utilizes her knowledge to inspire the next generation of leaders. We also discuss how the pandemic is affecting Ramadan, why disruption can be healthy, and how institutions can continue to innovate regardless of their current level of success. Bio: Dr. Alta Mauro is the Associate Dean for Inclusion & Belonging at Harvard College, guiding divisional efforts related to equity, diversity, and inclusion. Under her direction, the Harvard Foundation for Intercultural & Race Relations, the Harvard College Women’s Center, the Office of BGLTQ Student Life, and Title IX coordination converge to leverage Harvard’s great diversity to cultivate inclusive community where all students can thrive. Previously, Alta served as the founding director of Spiritual Life & Intercultural Education at New York University Abu Dhabi. The UAE’s cosmopolitan diversity provided an exciting backdrop to consider what it meant to educate from the intersection of Black diasporic, critical, womanist perspectives rooted in cultural humility, social justice, and equity. Alta earned a Ph.D. in Educational Leadership and Cultural Foundations from the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Her dissertation, Identity (re)Determination Among Upwardly-Mobile Black Women, focuses on shifting notions of self, identity, and belonging among African-American women who have been acculturated in sociocultural spaces which are markedly different from their home communities. Other areas of her professional expertise include sustained dialogue and engaging culturally-relevant pedagogy across academic disciplines. Alta has co-authored three refereed book chapters, additional articles related to DEI and global education issues, and published poetry in a recent higher education anthology. Highlights: The ways not enough-ness shows up and how Dr. Mauro deals with this. How Amer and Dr. Mauro are handling a less communal Ramadan. How to navigate between choosing a job with higher pay with a community focused position. What are helpful disruptions and how did they impact Dr. Mauro’s life? Amer and Dr. Mauro’s experience living in the Midwest, facing religious and racial animosity. How Dr. Mauro’s experience in the Middle East taught her to be tolerant of ambiguity. Acknowledging the exploitation of labor across the world. How to differentiate between fundamental problems and first-world problems. What are the historical barriers for women of color? How have they changed over time? Do successful institutions stop innovating after time? Are we advocating for inclusive education too robotically and philosophically? Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed
Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr. is a dedicated change agent, with leadership experience across the education and business sectors. In today’s episode, he speaks deeply to the mindset and approach that educators must adopt to truly make an on impact students. Dr. Moore shares from his past, including how he overcame addiction and found himself in the diversity, equity, and inclusion space. We also cover why there is no finish line for anti-racism work, why massive transformation will come from a series of small actions, and what it means to hold someone accountable. Bio: Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr. has pursued and achieved success in academia, business, diversity, leadership and community service. In 1996, he started America & MOORE, LLC to provide comprehensive diversity, privilege and leadership trainings and workshops. Dr. Moore is recognized as one of the nation’s top motivational speakers and educators, especially for his work with students K-16. Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr., currently serves as Director of The Privilege Institute (TPI) and The National White Privilege Conference (WPC), both founded under his direction to provide opportunities and possibilities for research, publications, speaking and collaborations by those committed to true social and institutional change. He received his Ph.D. in Educational Policy and Leadership Studies at the University of Iowa and under his direction and inclusive relationship model the White Privilege Conference has become one of the top national and international conferences for participants who want to move beyond dialogue and into action around issues of diversity, power, privilege, and leadership. In 2014 Dr. Moore founded The Privilege Institute, which engages people in research, education, action and leadership through workshops, conferences, publications and collaborative partnerships and relationships. (Click here to read full bio) Highlights: What are qualities to look for in a mentor? Is the social justice movement evolving as fast as white supremacy culture? How recovering from a drug addiction at age 27 changed Dr. Moore’s life trajectory. How Dr. Moore’s mother’s love was his saving grace. “It starts with believing that it matters to invest in somebody … you may never see the repercussions and results of that, but … that’s worth doing” - Dr. Amer F. Ahmed Why millions of people having an impact on their small spheres of influence will change the world - “Transformation ... doesn’t just happen because one person did one big thing” - Dr. Amer F. Ahmed What is the White Privilege Conference? Why those who are doing the work need to be challenged differently. How has Dr. Moore’s consultation work changed over time? Is higher education’s approach to fighting racism outdated? Why knowing your ingrained biases is vital to effective pedagogy. There is no one BIPOC “type” - there is massive diversity under this designation. Why powerful educators “respect the complexity in which their students are coming into the classroom” - Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr. Why is Robin DiAngelo under so much public scrutiny? Is it unwarranted? Connect with Dr. Eddie Moore, Jr. Website | EddieMooreJr.com - free e-book, 21 Day Action Plans, and book info!! Instagram | @eddiemoorejr Twitter | @eddieknowsmoore Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed
While the recent wave of anti-Asian crimes is frightening, the hate itself is not new. It simply became more acute and visible due to global events. Our guest, Kia Lor, intimately understands intercultural competence and holds a heartfelt remedy for the vitriol. The path forward includes deeper intentional listening and more meaningful communication amongst cultures and generations. We also cover the history of the Hmong people, inclusion issues within study abroad programs, and the sneaky ways that institutions attempt to force assimilation. Bio: Kia Lor (she/her), Associate Director, was a First-Generation Lower-Income (FGLI) college student who was born in a refugee camp in Thailand and raised in snowy St. Paul, Minnesota. Kia can tell you all about how to immerse yourself in intercultural courses at UPenn, including the Intercultural Leadership Program, the United Minorities Council, and the Civil Rights History Spring Break. She is also skilled in social media marketing. Kia is passionate about Hmong women narratives and digital storytelling, and she uses her training in intercultural communication to help students develop their voices. Outside of her work at the Albert M. Greenfield Intercultural Center, you may find Kia taking pictures or running along the Schuylkill trail. Highlights: Background of the Hmong people, including their betrayal from the United States and the “Secret War” from the Vietnam War era. How Kia came to the field of intercultural communication and how she has been applying this knowledge her entire life. Why a study abroad trip to India and China accelerated her passion for diversity, equity, and inclusion work. How Kia has brought the intersectional lens to study abroad, fellowships, and global initiatives at UPenn. Salient question from Kia - “How do I be Asian in a white space?” Why students of different races have highly variable experiences while traveling abroad. Is there historical tension between the Asian and Black communities? What is emotional labor and why is its importance often dismissed from academic circles? How economics, class, and access to education vary across all minority groups, especially within Asian communities. What are the recent changes within the Hmong community in the United States? How does Kia boost intercultural learning through an equity lens at UPenn? What does inclusive teaching mean to Kia? “Listen with the intention to understand, and without having to put in my solution or my two cents, but to really hear each other.” - Kia Lor How the dominant culture forces assimilation and why operating with internal congruence is vital. Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed
Part 2 of this interview begins with Alex sharing insights from Standing Rock, solutions for preserving Indigenous culture, and methods for ending the colonial mindset. Alex details the specific actionable steps that white Americans can take to assist in this cultural transformation. We also talk about why authentic conversation can end white supremacy, how hyper-reactivity slows progress, and why Western society’s devotion to logic is problematic. Bio: He is currently producing and hosting Season 2 of In These Times: Black Lives and Call for Justice, a podcast by the School of Arts and Sciences at Penn. The six-part series explores the nation’s complex history with race and examines the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020 and the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Schein has served as part-time faculty at Temple University and the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and as creative director for the African American Policy Forum, co-founded by Kimberlé Crenshaw, in New York City. As the sole proprietor of SkyHunter Media, he has directed and produced numerous promotional films for organizations, independent artists, and institutions. His solo-produced documentary film, Making Sense, made its world premiere in New York City at the 2014 DOC NYC Film Festival. As a professional songwriter and music producer for over 15 years, Schein has had songs from his self-produced album, Speed of Light, featured in the feature film Bilal’s Stand (Sundance Film Festival 2010) as well as on ESPN, NBC Sports, and in Big UP Productions' films by Emmy-Award director Josh Lowell. Show Notes: Alex’s journey learning about Native American issues via Standing Rock. Why documenting traditions and languages is vital to preserving Indigenous values. How can we become part of the solution for the Indigenous community? Are native American cultures and customs becoming overly romanticized? How pervasive is the colonial mentality? How can individuals transcend that mindset? Why Western society’s devotion to rationality and logic is short-sighted. The background on Alex’s “Breaking The Silence” film project. “Witnessing human beings in the faces of constant oppression on every level… and yet you can still transform that into laughter, and incredible creative expression and all sorts of things that have come from Black, Indigenous, and Brown people.” - Alex Schein How Covid has affected how we interact with technology and media. Alex’s insights from recording and editing for social justice leaders and scholars. Why making authentic connections with people unlike yourself is needed now more than ever. How Alex has woven the message of diversity, equity, and inclusion into his work for UPenn. Why the most useful, impactful actions are often not publicly displayed. How the hyper-reactivity surrounding all things race and social justice related is slowing progress. Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Alex Schein is a multimedia producer and the Director of Digital Communications for the School of Arts & Sciences at the University of Pennsylvania. Alex’s long-established involvement in educational art projects enables him to expertly convey their potential power in realizing social and economic justice. Amer and Alex’s close relationship makes for a potent and heartfelt episode, including tales from their time living in South Africa during the Truth and Reconciliation era. Stay tuned for part 2 of this conversation! Bio: He is currently producing and hosting Season 2 of In These Times: Black Lives and Call for Justice, a podcast by the School of Arts and Sciences at Penn. The six-part series explores the nation’s complex history with race and examines the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020 and the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Schein has served as part-time faculty at Temple University and the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and as creative director for the African American Policy Forum, co-founded by Kimberlé Crenshaw, in New York City. As the sole proprietor of SkyHunter Media, he has directed and produced numerous promotional films for organizations, independent artists, and institutions. His solo-produced documentary film, Making Sense, made its world premiere in New York City at the 2014 DOC NYC Film Festival. As a professional songwriter and music producer for over 15 years, Schein has had songs from his self-produced album, Speed of Light, featured in the feature film Bilal’s Stand (Sundance Film Festival 2010) as well as on ESPN, NBC Sports, and in Big UP Productions' films by Emmy-Award director Josh Lowell. Show Notes: The achievements of Alex Schein’s mother - Dr. Virginia Schein - one of the first female faculty members at University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business Why aren’t more women in leadership positions? Why Gettysburg, PA presents a unique case study for race and class relations. How Alex navigated the social complexities of diverse settings. Why being the only person of your race in a room can lead to new insights. Does music have a unique ability to bring people together? Does the average American understand Islam from a spiritual level? Amer and Alex’s experience living in South Africa during the Truth and Reconciliation process. Does the United States need its own version of truth and reconciliation? Why leaving your comfort zone is vital to growth. Breaking apart the stereotypes surrounding Dave Matthews and his music. Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
“Real critical thinking is about cracking open conventional wisdom, bringing in other bodies of knowledge, and expanding the conversation” - Dr. Vincent Stephens Decolonizing the syllabus and overturning centuries of racist policy is essential work. But, those missions aren’t achievable if we don’t truly ground into the concepts of diversity, equity, and inclusion. Dr. Vincent Stephens has been a bold force in higher education, advocating for higher degrees of discernment and intersectionality from leadership. In this episode, we dispel common social justice myths, critique mainstream American media, and provide positive reinforcement for those speaking truth to power. Bio: Vincent L. Stephens (he/him/his) began as the Associate Dean for Diversity and Inclusion in the College of Arts & Sciences in January 2021. Dr. Stephens serves on the Dean’s cabinet to advise the dean, help define strategic priorities, and develop and implement policy to advance the College’s commitment to diversity and inclusion. He also provides strategic consultations for faculty, staff, and students, including concerns related to climate, hiring, creation of pipeline programs, and curriculum. He has served as the Director of the Popel Shaw Center for Race and Ethnicity at Dickinson College (2015-21) and Director of Multicultural Student Services (2011-15) at Bucknell University. Through these roles he has cultivated specialties in inclusive pedagogy techniques, equitable hiring practices, cultural conflict resolution, dialogue facilitation, and student retention and engagement, among other areas. An American Studies scholar, he completed his BS in Mass Communication/Print Journalism at Emerson College, MA in Popular Culture Studies at Bowling Green State University, and PhD in American Studies at the University of Maryland College Park. He is the author of 2019’s Rocking the Closet: How Little Richard, Johnnie Ray, Liberace, and Johnny Mathis Queered Pop Music (University of Illinois Press) and co-editor of 2017’s Post Racial America? An Interdisciplinary Study (Bucknell University Press). His essays on popular culture have appeared in various peer-reviewed journals, anthologies, and encyclopedias. He has also taught at multiple institutions, most recently as a Contributing Faculty member in the Department of Music at Dickinson College (Fall 2018-Fall 2020). Show Notes: How educators can build curricular frameworks where all students can contribute How Dr. Stephens found himself back in Boston, working as the Associate Dean For Diversity and Inclusion at BU. Why administrative positions can greatly contribute to a more equitable university experience How insights from higher education lead to more comprehensive knowledge Why we all need to do our diversity, equity, and inclusion homework How to end to the stereotype that only the wealthy, elite class earns doctorate degrees Why educators are often the first target when dictatorial governments take power Why public education is vital to the health of a democratic society. Is discernment lacking in our country? Is populism anti-intellectual? Why people will find media that aligns with their current beliefs What is the media not telling us? And why is that information withheld? How to avoid the trap of believing progress will only appear as legislative action Don’t become overwhelmed by all the info about diversity, equity, and inclusion. There is work to be done from where you are. Is western civilization built on problematic norms? Why inclusion starts with course design, and challenges popular convention. Why we need to decolonize the syllabus From the way you conceptualize to the way you are interacting, your influence is having an effect collectively. Why to emphasize being grounded into equity, diversity, and inclusion as concepts before starting to act. Connect with Dr. Vincent Stephens: Boston University Educator Profile | Dr. Vincent Stephens Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Creating a radically different future will require masterful innovation from educators. Asad Ali Jafri has been at the forefront of societal transformation, working with teachers, community activists, artists, and thought leaders on intentional initiatives. Today’s conversation explores the intersection of hip-hop and Islam, the importance of backing up our words with meaningful action, and why art is a critical component of an educator’s toolbox. Bio: Asad Ali Jafri is a cultural producer, community organizer and interdisciplinary artist with a creative vision for sustainable social change. As an innovative thinker, Asad utilizes the universal language of art to connect communities, cultures and people to transform interactions, perceptions, and collective consciousness. Since 2001, Asad has worked passionately with artists, creatives, and thought leaders across nations, disciplines, and genres to curate meaningful productions, design sustainable initiatives, and build strong communities. Currently Asad is based in Chicago as Executive Director of South Asia Institute. Asad melds his passion for art, culture, design, and space to transform people, relationships, perceptions and communities. Show Notes: Why the need for innovative solutions is higher than ever before What is Asad’s backstory? What challenges did he face growing up as a South Asian adolescent in the Chicago area? How hip-hop shaped Asad’s worldview and life perspective The history of Islam intersecting with hip-hop, and how it affected Amer & Asad Why 9/11 marked a change in how America approached Islam and war What happened to the anti-war, anti-Bush energy of the early 2000’s? How to introduce music, culture, and traditions to new social groups Why no community wants to be pigeon-holed or stereotyped How does hip-hop intersect with higher education? How has Asad utilized the arts? Why music is a critical tool in education, especially for reaching young people In the social justice space, it’s often a question of “how” and not “should” Why getting progressively minded people into positions of power is vital, as they set the budgets and agenda Why just saying “Black Lives Matter” is not enough How to bridge the gap between talking and acting Why the more glamorous diversity and equity initiatives tend to get more funding than the ones doing the heavy lifting How to create interactive ways for students to connect with the lessons Why true education must come from a heart-felt desire for growth Connect with Asad Ali Jafri: Instagram | @asewonder Facebook | Asad Ali Jafri Website | asadalijafri.com - available for schools and educators Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Kelli McLoud-Schingen is a world-class bridge builder, using the power of story and art to bring about social and racial justice. In this interview, she details how her upbringing in Chicago fueled her current passion for inclusive leadership and intercultural competence. We answer pertinent questions from the diversity, equity, and inclusion field, including why Black self-determinism is non negotiable and often overlooked, how art can transform perspectives, and why gradual change is no longer a viable solution. Bio: Kelli McLoud-Schingen is President and principal facilitator/trainer for KMS Intercultural Consulting, LLC. She specializes in Inclusive Leadership, Global Diversity and Inclusion, Storytelling, Cultural Competence, Social Justice, Healing Racism, Conflict Resolution/Mediation, and Team-building. She has facilitated development workshops, trainings and dramatic presentations for educational, non-profit, government and corporate institutions in the USA and internationally since 1989. A certified professional mediator, Kelli holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication from Aurora University and a Master of Arts in Cross-Cultural Studies from the University of Houston-Clear Lake. Show Notes: Why the most recent upsurge of social justice support from white America was long overdue Why educating from our wounds is a problem How Kelli transitioned out of the shame and blame model of racial justice Why hurt people will continue to hurt people without the proper mindset Kelli details the racial environment from her youth in Chicago Where does the performer, artist side of Kelli originate from and how does it impact her mission as an educator? Why do stories captivate the human mind and heart? Why different people and identities will internalize their marginality uniquely Looking into the similarities between all oppressed and colonized peoples Why do television studios feel the need to Americanize every story? What can Kelli’s home of Tulsa, Oklahoma teach us about racial education? Why Black empowerment runs against the dominator’s narrative The horrors of the Tulsa Massacre/Black Wall Street Massacre in 1921, and how it affects us in the present How does anti-Black racism function and operate? Why Black self-determination is one of the issues that many overlook How white Americans married into indigenous families in order to gain legal and financial advantages When we fail to learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat it Why we no longer have the luxury of slow change Kelli’s definition of diversity - All of the ways we are different and the same Why, for the privileged group, equality will feel like oppression Connect with Kelli McLoud-Schingen: Website | kmsintercultural.com - She helps individuals, corporations, and organizations to navigate the journey to inclusion and cultural competence through the power of story. Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Vernon A. Wall, the consummate scholar-practitioner, brings his brilliant perspectives on diversity, equity, and inclusion to The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast. During his 30 years of experience in higher education (full bio below), his passion and understanding have helped him create long lasting institutional change. We cover why self reflection is mandatory to be a top-notch pedagog, how to teach from the heart, and why fighting both systemic racism AND Covid-19 can equally be a priority. Vernon A. Wall has degrees from North Carolina State University and Indiana University, and has student affairs experience at Iowa State University, the University of Georgia, UNC-Charlotte, and UNC-Chapel Hill. He has experience in Greek life, new student orientation, student activities, leadership development, global education, and university housing. He currently serves as the president of ACPA - College Student Educators, International. Between writing, lecturing, and consulting, Vernon has been an incredible force within the social justice space. Show Notes: How to better represent and support students during the pandemic Why the experience of university is about more than just the classes How did Vernon Wall become highly esteemed in higher education? Why was Vernon hesitant to lead programming based on his identities? The differences between teaching from the head vs. the heart The vital shift from simply caring to creating real structural change Has the media historically sold a pollyannaish fantasy when it comes to race relations? What events have contributed to a rise in white folk taking a vocal stand against racism Why dismantling racism means we need to dismantle the rationale for it How did Vernon create long-lasting change in academic affairs? What kind of person should be the V.P. of Student Affairs? Are universities asking the right questions? Why there is no discipline within the college experience that does not intersect with diversity, equity, and inclusion Self reflection questions for educators - “Who am I in the classroom?” “What are my identities and how do they show up in the classroom?” Why humility and a willingness to admit when you don’t know something is a MUST for educators Avoid the trap - we can make both oppression AND Covid-19 a priority Connect with Vernon A Wall: Twitter | @vernonAwall Instagram | @vernonawall Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Welcome to Season 2 of The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast! Our host, Dr. Amer F. Ahmed, provides commentary and insights into the latest happenings in the world to set the tone for 2021. Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Are the leaders in higher education truly rooted in a social justice framework? Is racial healing possible without addressing the spiritual aspect of humanity? We investigate these questions and more with our guest, Dr. Michele Chatman, who currently serves as faculty at the University of the District of Columbia and as Board President for the Association for Contemplative Mind in Higher Education. Her respect for African spiritual traditions and feminist anthropology make for an enlightening interview. “Education and learning is not just about training students to get a job to be another cog in the wheel, to just push the status quo, but education is about serving the human spirit, about living in relationship with the earth, about honoring different ways of knowing” - Dr. Chatman Show Notes: The importance of cultivating gratefulness and positivity on a daily basis Dr. Chatman’s findings from studying urban poverty through the lens of Black men in the 1960’s. What is Contemplative Pedagogy? Recommended book - Rhonda V. Magee’s “The Inner Work of Racial Justice” How are you both perpetuating and disrupting institutionalized racism, classism, and sexism? Why grounded feminist anthropology deserves more attention How Dr. Chatman became grounded in African indigenous ways of being, including the West African Orisha tradition Dr. Chatman’s experience navigating the culture of academia Why showing up in a meaningful and authentic way can help you avoid cultural appropriation A dilemma for many in the social justice space - disengage for self protection or continue to challenge the system from the inside? The absurdity of trying to tell Black and Brown children to just calm down and behave Are the leaders in higher education truly rooted within a social justice framework? Why the times are calling for us to get greater clarity on who we are and what we stand for The necessity of bringing a social justice framework to all aspects of life Why having racial literacy and fluency is important for leadership teams What are some key things we can do to bring about structural change? Where are institutions investing resources? Are the leaders truly in charge or are they constrained by other factors? There’s a lot of talk within social justice spaces - what can we DO? What does inclusive teaching mean to Dr. Chatman? Why educators need to tend to the whole student, including body, mind, and spirit Recommended book - Parker Palmer’s “A Hidden Wholeness” Connect with Dr. Michelle Chatman: Websites | Healingjusticejoy.com for Dr. Chatman’s personal site and Contemplativemind.org for the Center for Contemplative Mind in Society Email | docmchatman@gmail.com Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Shá Duncan Smith is an engaging activist-scholar dedicated to creating a completely inclusive environment for students. Currently, she is fulfilling this mission as the Dean of Inclusive Excellence and Community Development at Swarthmore College. Shá identifies key misconceptions prevalent in the social justice space, with thoughts on pronouns, interfaith education, and more. We also talk about finding joy amidst oppression, moving beyond performative knowing, and developing students’ capacity for change. Show Notes: This episode is in honor of Walter Wallace Jr. who was killed by the Philadelphia police force last month What specific policies, procedures, and practices need to be dismantled or addressed? Why Amer and Shá focus on developing their student’s capacity for change rather than trying to directly change beliefs The benefits of an interfaith education and understanding How to help students move out of the deficit framework How Amer and Shá are assisting students of color on college campuses What aspects of the higher educational model need the most work to be inclusive? Do colleges have a “sink or swim” attitude towards minorities on campus? What is the educational value of diversity? Is that lost thru assimilation? “We don’t always have to perform knowing” - Amer Since pronouns are a deeply personal aspect of someone’s life, should we be asking new acquaintances about that? Why we need to find joy even in the face of oppression Resource: Author and activist Adrienne Maree Brown - “Emergent Strategy” & “Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good” How to move beyond performative activism and transactional relationships What is the leading edge in pedagogy and inclusive education? How Covid-19 is uniquely affecting students of color How can we balance academic vigor with mental health? Why faculty should receive ongoing training to help them implement strategies from the diversity, equity, and inclusion field. Connect With Shá: LinkedIn | T. Shá Duncan Smith Swarthmore’s Directory | Shá Duncan Smith Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Our guest, Dr. Kijua Sanders-McMurtry, is a world-class pedagog with an earnest desire for truth and justice. Thanks to these traits, she is able to identify deeply embedded toxic patterns of patriarchy and white supremacy, even within some feminist and anti-racist settings. Currently, she serves as the V.P. for Equity and Inclusion and the Chief Diversity Officer at Mount Holyoke College. In this fascinating conversation, we cover how to disrupt Christian normativity and whether skin-folk are kin-folk. Show Notes: How do partisan politics affect the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion? Representation matters, but there are further steps needed to dismantle white supremacy. How racist ideas and perceptions can exist beyond someone’s awareness Why no degree or educational achievement makes you immune to racism or stereotypical thinking. The importance of embracing other ways of knowing besides intellectualization How does a master teacher reach students in profound ways? Why affirming students’ unique patterns of speech is vital How the “Indian boarding school model” is toxic and is still actively guiding many institutions. Dr. Sanders-McMurtry’s experience working as an educator in women’s only colleges How to handle toxic masculinity in diversity, equity, and inclusion settings How Dr. Sanders-McMurty’s view on feminism has evolved over time Why we need stay attentive to the intersection between race and gender Books mentioned by Dr. Sanders-McMurtry include “Words Of Fire: An Anthology of African-American Feminist Thought” by Beverly Guy-Sheftall, writings by Lydia X.Z Brown, and “This Bridge Called Me Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color” An anthology edited by Cherríe Moraga and Gloria E. Anzaldúa Why we need an intersectional liberatory movement “Human hierarchies of any kind, they understood, would do little more than oppress all of humanity.” - Ibram X. Kendi How the murder of Matthew Shepard ignited Dr. Sanders-McMurtry’s to take an even stronger stand for justice Who is not being centered or affirmed? How can we do more? What actions can be done to transform lives? Mutual aid societies are one example “Not all skin folks are kin folks” - Is that true? Does patriarchy exist inside of feminist spaces? How to address the silencing of Black and Brown women inside of women only settings How to disrupt Christian normativity and hegemony Anti-racism is NOT about making white people feel better Connect with Dr. Kijua Sanders-McMurtry Mt. Holyoke Directory LinkedIn | Kijua Sanders-McMurtry Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
One of the most difficult feats for social justice educators is getting people to look at their internal biases. Thanks to Dr. Kathryn Sorrells’ sage wisdom & feminist perspective, we learn how to open dialog by using intercultural communication techniques and invitational language. Now an educator at Cal State Northridge, Dr. Sorrells is highly informed and acclaimed as an author, organizer, and artist. We also cover her thoughts on the multi-racial youth coalition and how to channel anger in a healthy way Show Notes: How to navigate the challenging changes in the Covid era What new points of access did we discover during the pandemic? Dr. Sorrells’ thoughts on the multi racial uprising against institutional white supremacy Details into the journey that led Dr. Sorrells to be a leader in this space How did the racial dynamics of 1960’s Georgia impact a young Dr. Sorrells? How to make friends with someone from another culture The importance of creating individual approaches to reach segregated communities How immigrant worker rights, LGBTQ rights, and the fight for a living wage intersect with the field of equity, diversity, and inclusion The importance of approaching your cross-racial relationships with humility and authenticity Why we are blind to some of our own privileges What do the numbers behind Trump’s popularity tell us about race and gender? Does the collective need to remember to care about the common good? How political activity from youth groups has inspired Dr. Sorrells What does accountability look like? What about when it’s not done in anger? Scoping out what we need to do next, now that Trump is out of office How we can do a better job at defining cultural appropriation What does it mean to support an initiative or organization? Is simply saying you support it enough? Can anger be productive? How can you channel it in a healthy way? What steps educators can take to give their students diverse a diverse set of skills How to intentionally invite someone to deepen their commitment to greater racial understanding Femininst perspective - shifting rhetoric out of strictly persuasive language to be more invitational Connect with Dr. Kathryn Sorrells: CSUN Directory | Dr. Kathryn Sorrells Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
We all play a unique and instrumental role in the equitable revival.Tyson Rose is an educator with an impeccable ability to directly inspire students through his optimistic and supportive message.His accomplishments include working as an environmental engineer and working in higher education as an Upward Bound director and a social justice facilitator.In this conversation, we look at Cape Verdean culture,explore how oppressive structures can unify the masses,and assess what makes a bridge program successful Show Notes: How Tyson is navigating these tumultuous times, both personally and professionally What does it mean to be a Cape Verdean American? Why are the brightest Cape Verdean thinkers and writers not as well known? How to re-connect and stay linked to your ancestral roots An exploration into New Bedford, Ma with its ethnic diversity and working class culture The intersection of Cape Verdean culture and Blackness How Jabreel Khazan, part of the Greensboro 4, directly impacted Tyson What is “Upward Bound” and how does it help disenfranchised people? How shared structural experiences unite people across race and culture The educational value of Hip-hop, and how Tyson and Amer have advanced this movement The value of mentorship and direct interactions with young people How to navigate the contemporary challenges in higher education Is assimilation necessary to thrive in America? Why bridge programs often act more as a dock than a complete bridge Details into his current focus of supporting and equipping students to reach their desired positions What can educators do to level up their inclusive educational game? Why we need to be okay with the messiness of life Why reactions are a constrained response to something else Are we teaching others that material success is the end goal? Is that helpful? Why dialog is superior to debate in this field of study Connect with Tyson Rose: University of Hartford Directory | Tyson Rose LinkedIn | Tyson Rose Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
Dr. Shakeer Abdullah captures the essence of practical diversity. As an African American Muslim living in the Midwest, he holds a thorough understanding of the complexities of race, culture, religion, and historical contexts. After earning his PhD. and writing on multi-cultural competence, he now consults, speaks, and trains others in achieving diversity and inclusion excellence. Today we talk about breaking free of limitations, challenging Christian hegemony, and paradigm-changing teaching tips. Show Notes: Dr. Shakeer’s connection and reaction to George Floyd’s murder How Dr. Shakeer’s family transitioned from Christianity to Islam What was it like to grow up as an African American Muslim in Ohio? How Dr. Shakeer broke free of the limitations imposed upon him Why studying abroad is especially impactful for minorities What is Christian hegemony and how does it affect us all? Investigating the relationship between non-academic residents of a town vs residents associated with the school How art and creative actions can transform hearts and minds Why Dr. Shakeer is passionate about higher education What role spirituality and faith plays in the equality movement How colorism affects Muslim communities How to honor the unique challenges faced by all races and cultures Are students expected to drop their unique identities in college settings? “Engaging all of who we are as a resource for learning” - Dr. Amer Examining the belief that “bringing religion into the conversation is too controversial” What does inclusive education mean and how can educators be more intentional “The opportunities are there, you just have to want it” - Dr. Shakeer Why you must actually care about the communities and people you serve before you can make an impact Why knowledge and awareness are vital skills for those wanting to make a difference Performative knowing vs using humility and accepting you don’t know something Connect with Dr. Shakeer Abdullah Instagram | @shak1906 Practical Diversity Associates Website | pracdiv.com Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
In this episode, Dr. Rani Varghese, a professor of Social Work at Adelphi University, lucidly contributes practical tips for social justice leaders. Her lifelong dedication to creating equality for all shines through in this episode, reminding us WHY we do this work. Reclaiming herstory requires educators to utilize diverse tools, which is why she focuses on integrative teaching methods, dialog facilitation,and the embodiment of knowledge.We explore how higher education can best serve students,and much more Show Notes: Comparing the responses to police brutality among communities, institutions, and politicians How growing up in Cincinnati as a South Asian shaped Dr. Varghese’s life Historical and cultural notes of interest about the Indian state of Kerala and the Malayli culture Book recommendation - “Privileged Minorities” - Sonja Thomas Why using a person's skin color to identify their culture is not wise How Dr. Varghese became active in social justice education How her background and interest in psychology and social work guides her present day teaching Why an organization’s strong public statements about inclusivity can make a difference Why we can’t solely focus on racism without looking at sexism, classism, homophobia, etc. What are the narratives driving people to act as perpetrators? How Patricia Hill Collins inspired Dr. Varghese to deepen her work “Add difference and stir” - A non-integrative attitude towards diversity Why embodied intersectionality engages others more than a simply mental approach How does whiteness interface with gender and race studies, both historically and currently Why learning about anti-semitism alongside anti-indigenousness led Dr. Varghese to greater awarenesses into the root causes behind oppression Why teaching the next generation how to interact and be with other races, cultures, and types of people is vital How microaggressions and implicit biases can go undetected The importance of teaching the educators HOW to teach and convey their knowledge How to find communities that fully support you and your expression of truth “Are we teaching in a way that meets the needs of all the students? If not, why?” - Dr. Varghese What sets Dr. Varghese’s current institution, Adelphi University, apart from other institutions Does an institution’s focus on grants and publications take away from the student’s experience? What are some inclusive teaching tips and approaches that educators can implement today? “We can’t work with a client if we haven’t done our own work around whatever that issue is” - Dr. Varghese Are vocational programs imposed onto lower income and minority children? Connect with Dr. Rani Varghese: Adelphi Faculty Profile | Rani Varghese Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
There are very few educators with as much passion and wide ranging experiences in the diversity, equity, and inclusion space as Dr. Michael Funk. Thanks to his rich background, Dr. Funk is able to deliver heartfelt wisdom and functional knowledge. As a balanced scholar/practitioner, he ably and eloquently introduces refreshing tools for educators of all types. Topics covered include why intersectional analysis is vital, what the higher educational model is missing, and why education is a practice of freedom Show Notes: Michael’s experience as a Faculty Fellow in Residence at NYU’s Steinhardt School of Culture, Education, and Human Development How growing up in Pittsburgh shaped Dr. Funk’s worldview, and why he became intrigued in the study of diversity Why education is a practice of freedom What sparked Dr. Funk’s interest in history How working as a case worker in the foster care system led Michael to examine his heterosexual and cisgender privileges How Michael’s diverse and winding journey led him to become a leader in higher education “Culture Shock” - a unique event Michael co-created that blended music, inclusive work, and politics, among other important topics How to find balance between being a scholar and a practitioner Why a wide range of experiences, including work, travel, and education are vital to the learning process Why synthesized learning is the future of higher education How education is changing the trajectory of people’s lives, and how that fuels educators to keep going How can we incentivize faculty to integrate diversity, equity, and inclusion work into their work Critiques of institutional education What the latest executive order spells for diversity, equity, and implicit bias training. What is the logic behind this executive order? What does inclusive teaching mean to Dr. Funk? Why not every pedagogic approach is for every instructor Why inclusion also means transparency and respect How to create “power with” models in education, and beyond Why we need to explore issues on inter-personal, institutional, macro, societal, and global levels. Don’t ask your students to go somewhere that you haven’t been yourself How to use this time of great uncertainty to come together like never before How to Connect with Dr. Michael Funk: NYU Profile | Dr. Michael Funk Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
In the second part of our interview with The Reminders, we explore the nuances and complexities of language within the social justice space. These types of conversations are what this podcast was built for - to challenge all preconceived notions, even the popular ones. Aja and Big Samir’s unwavering commitment to their principles of unity and pursuits for meaningful change are undoubtedly inspirational. These artists and educators embody what this podcast stands for, and makes for an exceptional interview Show Notes: Why we must build or make what we don’t see in the world How to not let the times beat you down Constructive vs. Destructive envy Why a healer must be in touch with their strength and power in order to be effective What is The Reminders’ advice for educators? How to be inclusive, create spaces of honesty, and listen even when it’s uncomfortable Remember the stories you learn along the way How educators can change the language around white privilege - does it unintentionally reinforce the very dynamic it is seeking to transform? How to bring lower income white people into the justice conversation What is the goal of this diversity, equity, and inclusion movement? Why context and local dynamics are vital when speaking about race and making changes How we can use language that does not unintentionally perpetuate division Why anything worthwhile is difficult, and why growth is not linear Why economic choices are the people's greatest power Connect with The Reminders: Website | theremindersmusic.com Instagram | @thereminders Facebook | The Reminders Twitter | @TheReminders YouTube | TheRemindersTV Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!
The Reminders are an ultra powerful husband-wife duo whose rooted rhythms and insightful lyrics are inspiring monumental change. In Aja and Big Samir’s educational and musical pursuits, they prioritize cultural connection and spread a positive and equitable message. In this heart-to-heart dialog, they share how neighborly love can transform racial relations, and why building bridges between world views is crucial. As 2020 continues to present challenges, The Reminders offer courageous and profound guidance. Show Notes: How has 2020 changed you? Why learning and growth happens one small step at a time The difference between reacting and responding What if we focused on points of connection rather than racial differences? How to talk about constructs without reinforcing their power Why creating cultural connections is a priority Why what you buy into is based on how the world is presented to you Are institutionalized and professional voices more credible than the dusty footed philosopher? Why meaning emerges thru experience - and how educators can utilize this truth How music opens windows into different realities Why words are just symbols for emotions and meaning How “The Reminders” ethos and music captures what the Eclectic Inclusion Podcast stands for How to create from right where you are How a trip to Europe expanded Aja’s perception of race and culture Connect with The Reminders: Website | theremindersmusic.com Instagram | @thereminders Facebook | The Reminders Twitter | @TheReminders YouTube | TheRemindersTV Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast: Website | amerfahmed.com Instagram | @dramerfahmed Twitter | @dramerfahmed Please Share, Subscribe, and Review!