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Author: Sarah Helton and Kenzie Todd

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Welcome to Even If, a podcast where two 30-something, single gals dive deep into the realities of life, love, and everything in between. Join us as we navigate the ups and downs of dating, chase our business dreams, and pursue our faith—trusting God in every season. Our hope and prayer with this podcast is that you will come to fully believe that EVEN IF things don’t go how you thought or hoped they would, you can understand the love of God and know that He is still good. New episode every Tuesday!

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On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we sit down with our dear friend Jayme Vainer — dating coach, wedding planner, and truly one of the most encouraging people we know. Jayme is the definition of JOY, she brings both wisdom and some fun stories to this conversation. We talk about what it looks like to wait well, what she has learned through dating multiple people at once, and even some hilarious and crazy moments from her own journey — including the time she dated 15 different men in one month. At 40 years old, Jayme “The Christian Bachelorette” carries so much wisdom, grace, and practical insight, and doesn’t hold anything back (and possibly has a BIG announcement at the end of the episode). Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/Jayme Vainer: https://www.instagram.com/jaymevainer/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we look back on the past year through the lens of the words God has spoken to us. We share our personal phrases of the year and words of the month (WOTM) — sharing what the Lord has taught us, revealed to us, and walked us through. There’s power in naming what God is doing, and really sweet having friends who keep us grounded and accountable in His promises. Join us as we unpack how the Lord speaks to us, the different ways He nudges our hearts, and how you can cultivate deeper, more intentional conversations with the people around you through the power of words. Whether you’re wanting to choose a phrase for the year, join in on the WOTM, or simply wanting to hear God more, this episode invites you to slow down, reflect, listen and recognize His faithfulness and His presence in every season. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we needed some laughter. So we’re diving into the wonderfully chaotic world of Girl Logic — the unspoken code every woman somehow understands. You know how it goes – saying “I’m fine” when we’re absolutely not, saying you’re not hungry and not ordering anything but then eating off someone else’s plate, and walking into Target for one thing only to walk out with a cart full of other things we definitely didn’t need. We’re laughing through all the moments where our reasoning makes no sense on paper but makes perfect sense to us. We wrapped the episode with a bit of seriousness realizing what we can do as women to communicate better and speak up for what we need instead of just relying on “girl logic”. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we’re talking about singleness during the holidays — the pressure, the emotions, the gifts, the fun, and the moments where it’s been hard. We share about feeling behind, navigating family dynamics, and trying to stay grounded even if it’s hard this time of year. Our hope is that if the holidays feel hard for you, you know you’re not alone. There’s a reason for your season and there’s a reason for this season. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we’re opening up about something we’re both currently experiencing — the moments when God feels silent. Both of us walked into today feeling discouraged in our singleness and unsure of what God is doing behind the scenes. So we decided to sit down and share honestly about the waiting, the questions, the frustration, and the faith it takes to keep trusting when you don’t see movement. There were a few tears shed and lots of vulnerability.If you’ve ever wondered, “God, are You even listening?” — this conversation is for you. You are not alone, your prayers are heard, and His silence is never His absence. Even here, even now… He’s working. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we sit down with singer, songwriter, and faith-filled creative Madison Watkins! Madison has quickly become one of our best friends, and we admitted to her that before that, we were her biggest fan girls. We talk about purpose, perseverance, and what it looks like to chase your dreams while doing it all for Gods glory and His Kingdom. Madison shares her heart on staying grounded in faith while pursuing big God dreams in the entertainment world. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/Madison Watkins: https://www.instagram.com/madison_watkins
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we’re talking about what it looks like to live with faith and peace in a digital world. How do we stay authentic online without losing ourselves to performance or comparison? How can we set healthy boundaries with social media, relationships, and influence while keeping our eyes on God? And what does discernment look like in a world that’s always scrolling? We dive into all of it — from guarding your heart to finding purpose in your online presence. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we’re talking about breaking generational patterns — the behaviors, fears, and mindsets that get passed down through families without us even realizing it. Have you ever caught yourself reacting just like your parents did? Or noticed certain patterns showing up in your relationships, faith, or self-talk? We’ve been there too. We talk about awareness, surrender, and the courage to do things differently — not to dishonor your family, but to honor God’s redemptive work in your story and also see how generational patterns can be generational blessings, too. Enjoy this week’s episode, and remember, even if, He is still good.Reflection questions:What “family themes” have shaped me for better or worse?How has God already reversed something in my lineage?What do I want my children/grandchildren to inherit spiritually from me?Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we bring up the common question, can guys and girls be JUST friends? What are the boundaries around this? Is it possible? We discuss what this has looked like for us and talk about what our role can be from the girls side. How can we honor men / our brothers in Christ and treat them respectfully while also being direct, honest and kind. We love the open community conversation and value any insight or opinions from our listeners! We would love to hear about your experiences in this area. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we dive into some insight from a recent therapy session on learning the difference between intimacy verses intensity in dating relationships. Is it intimacy or just intensity? How can we avoid intense relationships and date with more intention; striving towards intimacy? Does kissing on a first date make it intense? What if slow feels boring? How can we work towards intimacy in dating? We discuss it all here. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we talk about moving and how to feel planted; specifically as a single girl. The good, the bad, and the lonely. Together, Sarah and Kenzie they have over 35 moves under their belt. At times it’s been really great, fun and exciting… and other times it’s been really hard, sad and lonely. If you’ve moved and felt this way too, you’re not alone! We share stories of past moves, support that’s been helpful, and some hardships and joys of this season. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie: https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/Resources:Your Story Has a Villain – https://a.co/d/9yohYr8Ruthless Trust – https://a.co/d/hDu4oWeWhere You Belong – https://a.co/d/8m8zxsf
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenzie ARE BACK for Season 2 after taking the summer off! We catch up on our past few months and share more about how we each individually spent this summer in the wilderness -- spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and/or physically. We enjoyed the break, learned and grew a lot, and we are both so glad to be back with y'all again! Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenzie discuss what’s coming up with summer 2025. We look forward to what’s ahead, talk about how to focus on being present and we share an update for what The Even If Podcast will look like in the next couple of months. As Jim Elliot says, "Wherever you are, be all there!" Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we have a super special guest, Coach Madalene Greene (soon to be Mrs. Bodenstein)!Madalene is a dedicated women’s health coach and certified nutritionist with 8+ years of experience, empowering women across all age groups to achieve their health and wellness goals. After discovering a passion for holistic well-being, Madalene has worked more recently on guiding women through personalized nutrition plans and health strategies that promote changes in regulating blood glucose, boosting metabolism and increasing muscle mass. Her approach combines evidence-based nutrition and movement sciences with practical coaching, allowing her clients to cultivate healthier habits while fostering a positive relationship with food, exercise, and their bodies.Sarah and Madalene sit at the mic and talk all things health, wellness, strength training and building confidence. Madalene shares where to start when you feel overwhelmed, things to be aware of in your nutrition, and the difference of training at 16 years old verse training at 60 years old. Follow her on socials and download her app to stay connected. All info linked below! Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/Madalene: https://www.instagram.com/coachmadalene/The “Moms Class”: https://www.instagram.com/forher.workoutclass/For Her App: https://www.instagram.com/forher.fitnessapp/The Format: https://www.theformatfitness.com/Our Garmin Watches:https://a.co/d/eI96RgG
025 Becoming Her

025 Becoming Her

2025-04-2919:01

On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we talk about Becoming Her! Jumping into Proverbs 31 -- not as a checklist to stress over, but a blueprint of becoming the woman we want to be before we become someone’s wife. It’s all about grace and growth. Becoming "her" before the ring. You don’t have to wait to become a wife to become wise, whole, or valuable. Become more of who God created us to be. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
024 Dating App Recap

024 Dating App Recap

2025-04-2234:40

On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenzie give a little recap of what a week on the dating apps was like! We share our thoughts about it, what we liked, didn’t like, some things that we learned and where we are now with them. Let us know your thoughts! We love hearing from you, too. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, we talk DATING APPS – the good, the bad, the ugly and all the in between. This episode is for you if you’re on dating apps, thinking about being on dating apps, hate dating apps or just curious about the female mindset of going on the apps. We make it kind of a big deal, only to realize it really isn’t that big of a deal… and we just might be signing up by the end of this weeks episode. Listen in to hear all the details! Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Jonathan Pokluda dating app – https://qualifieddate.com/what Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenz talk through how to recognize when your faith is drifting, how to rebuild, and how to stay focused long term. We had a couple of listeners reach out and share similar questions around faith. One listener asked how to keep faith a priority in the midst of busy every day life and another listener said she’s new to her faith and was asking for tips. We definitely don’t have it all figured out, but we are here to share things we’ve learned and encourage you along the way. As always, we would love to connect with you, so please reach out anytime! We’re in it with you. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, our topic is all about how to know if you’re ready to date again. Sometimes it can be hard to decipher between fear of dating again or is he just not the right one. Even if your past was painful, God can redeem your story. We discuss some signs that you’re still hearing versus signs that you’re walking in healing. We share advice to test your readiness through spiritual and emotional readiness as well as some practical signs to look for and questions to ask. Even if love hasn’t come the way you thought it would, your story isn’t over. Even if you’re still in the waiting, God is writing something beautiful. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
On this week’s episode of The Even If Podcast, Sarah and Kenzie talk about embracing God’s timing in relationships, career and life in general, especially for single women. We talk about God’s timing verses our own expectations and how there’s a time for everything as the Bible reminds us in Ecclesiastes 3. Waiting can be challenging due to our culture of instant gratification, fear of missing out, and pressure of societal expectations but we’re here to remind you (and ourselves), there's no such thing as delays, there's only God’s perfect timing and our impatience. Enjoy this week’s episode and remember, even if, He is still good.Connect: theevenifpod@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theevenifpodSarah: https://www.instagram.com/sarahhelton_/ Kenzie:https://www.instagram.com/kenzietodd/
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