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The Fifth Column
Author: Kmele Foster, Michael Moynihan, and Matt Welch
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Your weekly rhetorical assault on the on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally ourselves. Kmele Foster (Freethink), Michael Moynihan (Vice), and Matt Welch (Reason) talk and laugh and drink their way to at least quasi-sanity in a world gone mad, often with the aid of clean and articulate guests. Weekly Members Only subscription edition often comes with listener mail and professional-quality (if inappropriate) singing. Analysis. Commentary. Sedition.
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Moynihan and Welch talk to Nadav Eyal, senior columnist for Yedioth Ahronoth and one of Israel’s most prominent (and best-sourced) journalists. Typically, we would keep a bonus episode like this one behind the paywall. We were feeling generous today. But never rely on our continued generosity. So subscribe, cheapskate! * Meetings cancelled, meetings kept* How the attack on Iran unfolded* James Bond is a Jew* Taking out the IRGC leadership and partially neutering Iran’s missile capabilities* Was Iran actually readying a nuclear weapon?* Was Trump part of an elaborate ruse? * Western Europe reacts…* Does Israel actually drive American foreign policy?* The Mossad stuff is impressive. But…* Nadav’s Twitter thread* The first 48 hours are the easy part* Netanyahu’s political prospects * And lots, lots more This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
Senator Rand Paul joins the lads to lament the big, beautiful bill; the big beautiful Soviet military parade; the Twitter halfwits waging war on him; his party’s descent into populist voodoo economics; whether or not he’s an advocate of “open borders”; and what he makes of Marines on the streets of Los Angeles. After the senator leaves, Foster, Moynihan, and Welch stick around to discuss…all those same issues. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
* A grim anniversary* Elon’s brilliant troll* The big, ugly bill * Bannon tells the truth. But is still a liar* How dare they attack their attacker??* They have cards* Asymmetric and immoral * Changing minds…by human sacrifice* The blackest propaganda* The New York Times v. Palantir* And much, much more This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* ABBA’s Vietnam* Barnen i Nicaragua* Mike Tyson, Ratso, and Cus the Communist* Burning down the house / sort of scolded by a firefighter * The rent is too damn free* Everyone is contemptuous of everyone * Is Trump the Bernie Goetz of Harvard?* Rebutting “higher ed is just fine” revisionism* From YAF to Students for Liberty to Turning Point…* Dating apps, height discrimina…
* Racist Macca?* Some bad names* In praise of (trans?) Pee Wee* Does Long Duck Dong denounce his past?* Was that a Reaganite video game?* Trade war nonsense: the court says…maybe not* Moynihan’s $700 dress (including a $250 tariff) * Kmele on CNN* The end of Elon* Just like Reagan and Thatcher but not all* No suspects, no DNA, no fingerprints, no leads * MI:7 DEI This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* We think we *might* have talked about politics in this episode?* Happy anniversary Christian Cooper! * Talking to the dude who made those drug PSAs* The Glug (1981)* 2020: The year that broke America* Burning down the house (almost) * The tax protestor in our midst* Johnny Rotten, Johnny Ramone, the Plastic People, and the politics of punl* Nick of Schumpeterian Gatsby…
* The ritual humiliation white genocide slide show!* That’s not really true. But it doesn’t really matter, does it?* Trolling with refugees* That Mandela picture MM mentioned…* Uncle Paul * “Well do you DENOUNCE that language? Huh? Huh? Did you even say thank you??”* The big, not-so-beautiful bill* The trillion dollar dome* Gaza and the “14,000”* Our Original Sin and Korean Robert* When did he lose it?* That Christie clip is actually six years old. But here it is. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
* Jack London and hobo Oakland* The lovely government of Qatar* Trump in Saudi* A carnival of corruption* Chasing heroes…* The end of the “introventionalists”* But do they *fear* him?* The new Chomskyites * Declining freedom…* Trump’s fat, rich friend who wants price controls* The triumph of gesture politics* Black Leo This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
You demanded, we complied. Last month in this space, I interviewed science/technology/Covid journalist David Zweig about his great new book, An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions. It was a bracing conversation, filled with damning media/elite criticism, blue-state horrors, and F-bombs galore.Then a funny thing happened: Dozens of you wonderful paying subscribers said Mr. Welch, tear down this paywall, so we can share this with our normie friends! And so I have.A good time to mash the subscribe button!Now it’s your turn, o demanding listeners (and even non-demanding freeloaders) – let’s hook some new normies into your favorite podcast, and maybe persuade some of you fence-sitters about the primo content you’ve been missing out on. As Pope Bob from Chicago has taught us, the more people subscribe, the more special treats for everybody. Amen.Without further ado, the original text for the episode.***On May 11, 2020, as I was navigating personal collapse (“it’s been a really shitty two months,” I said on an interesting-to-listen-to-now Special Dispatch #20), my two daughters were wrestling unhappily with Zoom school, and all three of us lads were in the process of buying Covid cars, I came across a Wired article that landed like a Cher-style open-handed slap across the face: “The Case for Reopening Schools: Lots of other countries have decided that it's time to take this step. Why is the US holding back?”The piece, by David Zweig, was very contrary to the U.S. news coverage at the time, chock full o’ studies and data points and hyperlinks, and opened like this:Schools are reopening in countries around the world in response to a substantial body of evidence that children are largely unaffected by Covid-19 and minimally contagious when they get infected. Experts and policymakers abroad also acknowledge that school closures perpetuate a long list of known harms to children.Yet, oddly, the US is following a divergent path.Along with other real-world evidence trickling in from around the globe, Zweig’s essay (plus a June 24 follow-up), was part of my four-month journey from close-the-schools alarmist to open-the-schools monster, the latter condition from which I would spend more of my journalistic energy over the ensuing few years than I care to remember.Zweig, also a New York City parent of two schoolkids at the outbreak of Covid, is determined never to forget. His book An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions, is more than mere rage-calorie score-settling, however. At heart, he tells me in this occasionally fiery conversation, it’s about how we make decisions under crisis, and how our country operates under duress.What he both discovers and explicates, in fascinating detours through Evidence-Based Medicine and the philosophy of science, is that two institutions in particular let us down: Public health elites, and the media. “This is an extraordinarily compelling story about evidence being ignored and dismissed,” he says. “They ignored empirical evidence that was right in front of their fucking face.”Trust me, you’ll want to get to the last 15 minutes here, where Zweig describes how this process transformed his politics. It was “this revelatory moment,” he says: “Oh my God, I was a complete arrogant asshole.” Few others are spared.Some links:* Excerpt in The Atlantic, “The Disaster of School Closures Should Have Been Foreseen”* Excerpt in The Free Press, “How Covid Lies Destroyed Kids’ Lives”* Zweig’s Substack, Silent Lunch* NPR, “What Parents Can Learn From Child Care Centers That Stayed Open During Lockdowns,” June 24, 2020* The New York Times, “How 132 Epidemiologists Are Deciding When to Send Their Children to School,” June 12, 2020 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* The Bill Bixby of East Egg* Figure it out, people * Solitude: City vs. Country (not a reference to the Jonathan Richman song, btw)* Allemansrätten and who makes the most money in your postal code* Jawohl CHEF!* Banning internships will help the poor* “Worse than Watergate” and the Ballad of G. Gordon Liddy* How does one start restoring a car * The brilliance of our mod…
UPDATE: The initial version of this episode was missing two audio clips, both of them featuring exceptionally stupid people saying exceptionally stupid things. To be honest, you were be better off not hearing either of them. But the episode has been corrected, the punishing stupidity included, and now you’re worse off…* Notes from a live event (going live later today) * Fifdom represents* Spotify exposes!* RIP Swampy* India, Pakistan, and the American retreat* Ending power, hard and soft* Marjorie Taylor Chomsky * Israeli endgame* Portnoy’s NYT complaint* Piers Springer and the forbidden word* Don’t give money to meth head Nazis who yell at babies This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* Tickets for tomorrow’s Moynihan-moderated debate at the Village Underground can be purchased here! And subscribe to the Moynihan Report YouTube channel!* Winnipeg land acknowledgements* Prison competition* Tariffs for erotic French movies* Traitorous Hollywood not paying enough to make movies* A listener wants to talk about Steph Curry * Rare books* Lying on the fact…
They’re all back. And they recorded a very fun, very long one…during the day…to minimize drunken regrets. So many topics are covered—the Koch brother, the last episode, bad interviewers, bad manners, the strange new media, the strange new Ukraine strategy, exit Walz, etc—that we might as well dispense with the usual bullet points and just get right into it…Enjoy! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.comMoynihan couldn’t make it (we don’t know where he is, but if you see a shirtless man yelling at a parking meter in lower Manhattan, please let us know). In his absence, Kmele and Welch cover a wide swath: alien oceans and scientific hype cycles, the collapse of local journalism, the rise of YouTube basketball nerds, and why Luka Dončić is the people’s MVP. They also wade into darker waters—federal crackdowns on campus speech, student visa censorship, and the increasingly authoritarian posture of Trump 2.0.Plus: reader mail, a reluctant defense of David Hogg, a rant about scams and AI voice fraud, and a minor audio glitch that might actually be evidence of extraterrestrial life.
Errr….This one gets pretty heated. But we’re all still friends! We think. And Moynihan is now sober and his blood sugar is back to normal, so there’s that too. Either way, hats off to Batya for braving another episode with three people who disagree with her on pretty much everything. We talk Tariffs, Trump, lawfare, Ukraine, and everything in between. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* The Hungarian dentist and the prostitute theory* Your TV wife sees Hitler all the time, no?* Facilitate…* Dinners with politicians * A digression on Big Star (FYI: "Holocaust”)* Elder scams* Apple Watches and proof of life* Back to Rogan and Murray* A trip to Libya for a copy of the Green Book* #9 Fifth Dream * Doing an impression of a smart person / Paul believes* A theory …
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.comOn May 11, 2020, as I was navigating personal collapse (“it’s been a really shitty two months,” I said on an interesting-to-listen-to-now Special Dispatch #20), my two daughters were wrestling unhappily with Zoom school, and all three of us lads were in the process of buying Covid cars, I came across a Wired article that landed like a Cher-style open-ha…
Moynihan is out with a “tooth thing” (which sounds lame, but is allegedly a “painful,” “very serious” dental emergency that definitely doesn't involve a tall, attractive blonde woman). Fortunately, our pal Jesse Singal (Blocked and Reported, Singal-Minded) is along for the ride, and outlines the plans for his heroic crusade to save THE REPUBLIC by beefing with JD Vance on X. We dive into Trump 2.0’s extra-constitutional improvisations, fail to steer clear of trade policy, and search desperately for a silver lining in our late-capitalist, national-populist, increasingly surrealist Idiocracy. Also in the mix: a little Elon drama, libertarian coping strategies, various flavors of executive branch lawlessness, and a surprising outbreak of informed optimism about the future.* Tooth decay, high-end prostitutes, and podcast logistics* Jesse Singal enters the chat (possibly still mid–Twitter beef)* Deportation by executive vibe* Due process is for losers* When JD Met Jesse: A Very Sexy Love Story (by Selena Montgomery)* The most important internet slap-fight in American history* Hotel El Salvador: now accepting unwanted Americans* Bannon’s “flood the zone” plan meets sheer incompetence* Shouting at Bill Hemmer* Campus protests, free speech, and DHS interns with tasers* Jesse accidentally agrees with libertarians?* And can Jesse say one nice thing about JD Vance? (And, “Thank you”!?)* To the Moon, and Mars, and WHERE ELSE BEYOND This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
Is this episode 500?? Well, not really. Likely a bit higher. There have been some numbering convention mixups over the years and we’ve also recorded almost 300 paywalled episodes (yes, you should subscribe now, ya skinflints). But let’s just pretend it’s 500 and say…happy 500th episode, Fifth Column! * Waymo through skid row* The dumb right* Dead cats bounce* They took brown doublewides from us* Nixon, but in the open * Where are the Dems?* Besides magic* The DEI trade off?* The sweet meteor of death episode This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.wethefifth.com/subscribe
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* Val, Tombstone, Top Secret* Top Gun takes it to 11* One the best Hollywood memoirs * RIP Capucine* African-American Monday * Johnny Depp, musician * OK TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLAPSING ECONOMY* Spartacus moment? Once they start flipping…* “They couldn’t believe it. Ben Shapiro, of all people…”* A Norwegian. A Dane…and a guy who *isn’t Finnish, Matt** On the best fight of …
I'm sorry I guess I accidentally tuned into pod save america. lol. who is that beloviating Lefty that dominates the entire conversation with fabulist performative discourse
Fawn Hall was Oliver North's secretary. How could any of you mess that up? Jessica Hahn? Ugh. Get your 80s women straight.
sullivan shows what a ___ he truly is. There are more intelligent and worthy people to talk to, simply walk outside and choose anyone. The reprobate compares Oct 7th to a "1-2 day raid"....
vivek seem fake to me. like he was made in a lab.
this one of the best episodes so far. good crictism of trump
moynihan is the epitome of Beltway Libertarian
Russia has a more legitimate argument for invading Ukraine than the US had in invading Vietnam, Iraq and a host of other countries.
Talk about living in a bubble...geez
What a bunch of BS..geez
Matt said NOTHING. Love your pod, but keep Keannu off please. Anecdotal nonsense and total waste of time. You guys are great, don't lean on rotating pod stars.
Wow, Matt was on a tear.
fun, smart convo.
guessing a compilation of whistling past the grave yard while oozing superiority for people who are actually fighting the things they say they hate.
In the words of an Australian friend, "fuck this cunt"
at 1:01:50 french goes into an example for something an institution does and then uses something a corporation does with no explanation
Hmm just here to remind you that people have been murdered in France because they published or showed these caricatures. And the Danish paper had received bomb threats if I remember well. I understand why people would not take the risk of showing them
I am a baptist preachers daughter. I was raised conservative, Republican, and then Christian, in that order. I was raised with racism and sexism. I have so many memories of sitting in the back yard with my dad listening to Rush Limbaugh. That is my background. I have legitimately seen my family do outright racist and sexist things. I joke that I am a recovering conservative. But I started that “recovery” because I now have teenage daughters and I absolutely can not raise them how I was raised. Again, I was raised to be racist. When I was raped I didn’t report it, because my family raised me to believe if a woman is raped it is her fault. I’m not saying all of this for sympathy. I have a point. Bare with me. My point is, is I’m searching. I’m searching for new information. I voted all democratic this election for the first time. I only did it because I knew the other side wasn’t what I wanted, but I still know that didn’t fit me either. Then I saw you in Bill Mahr and felt like I finall
Top 20! Kmele's Maher appearance seems to be really drawing some new ears.
rand paul commentary was great!
In today’s hyper-politicized and polarized climate, it can be really hard to find a show or outlet that doesn’t cause independents to sift through drivel and sensational rhetoric to find original ideas. But this podcast is one of the only places I know of with a completely refreshing take on current events. Even disagreements are not taken as dividing lines between people, but something to discuss constructively and banter about it. I cannot recommend this enough. Just give it a try — and if you don’t like it, you can punch me in the face for wasting your time. Unless you’re a partisan who lets a cabal of Washington bureaucrats do all your thinking for you, in which case you should probably stay away from this.