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How can you become a game changer?

Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.

In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.

We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.

What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.

Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.

For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/

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In the realm of business and sports, the parallels are striking. Both arenas demand strong leadership, cohesive teamwork, and unwavering dedication to a common goal. Jason Hehir, the mastermind behind the groundbreaking documentary series The Last Dance, offers unique insights into this dynamic. Through chronicling Michael Jordan's extraordinary career, Hehir not only captured tales of triumph and defeat but also lived them firsthand. In this captivating episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Jason joins Michael Mogill to explore: Evolving from a novice to a leader and navigating the ensuing complexities The transformative power of embracing a healthy fear of failure Discovering the importance of cultivating your authentic voice for personal and professional success ---- Show Notes: 03:14 – What fueled Jason’s passion for sports and cinematography 04:44 – Jason’s humble creative beginnings 07:23 – How Jason builds strong teams 10:11 – Jason’s take on a healthy fear of failure 14:53 – How Jason got involved in HBO’s Andre The Giant documentary 19:31 – Jason’s creative project growth and evolution 23:12 – The preparation that went into The Last Dance 28:35 – Jason’s first meeting with Michael Jordan 33:34 – How Jason balanced multiple brands’ desire for creative control 35:11 – Why The Last Dance became one of the most highly-regarded sports documentaries of all time 37:26 – How Jason pivoted to creating the Countdown series capturing the SpaceX mission 40:19 – Capturing and editing footage from space 43:35 – What the highest-performing people have in common 48:49 – Jason’s upcoming projects and what keeps him excited 50:48 – How Jason is scaling his impact 50:35 – What being a game changer means to Jason ---- Links & Resources NBC André the Giant (documentary) The Last Dance (documentary) NBA Michael Jordan Jordan (brand) ESPN Netflix Jalen Rose  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #71 Tim Grover – WINNING: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness #128 Robert Greene – The Laws of Power and Human Nature #185 AMMA – How to Recognize, Reward, and Motivate Your Team
Being right and making progress aren't always two sides of the same coin. But, as a leader, when does it make sense to change your mind? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take a deep dive into: The balance between tightly held values and loosely held beliefs The power of empathy and considering alternative points of view  Why embracing change is not just the key to growth, but the essence of transformation ---- Show Notes: 03:55 – Michael’s change of heart (and mindset) 07:33 – What happens when you admit that you’re wrong 10:54 – What to do when you think something’s a “sure thing” 12:27 – The 2 constants in life 16:26 – How to evolve and navigate change ---- Links & Resources 2018 Game Changers Summit Who Not How by Dan Sullivan TikTok EVOLVE Summit Apple Vision Pro  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #78 Katy Milkman – How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be #171 Adam Alter – Anatomy of a Breakthrough: How to Get Unstuck When It Matters Most #243 AMMA – Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey
In a world where comfort is often prioritized over challenge, Joe De Sena — the pioneering mind behind the Spartan Race — offers a compelling counter-narrative. He champions the idea that true fulfillment comes not from ease, but from overcoming obstacles and embracing discomfort head-on. On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Joe and Michael take a deep dive into: The transformative power of personal accountability in navigating life's challenges Strategies for fostering a resilient mindset that thrives in adversity Why venturing outside our comfort zones is essential for unlocking our full potential and experiencing genuine happiness ---- Show Notes: 02:38 — Why the majority of people are lazy 04:28 — Why human beings avoid discomfort 05:22 — Why people are depressed 08:02 — Why food tastes so much better when you’re hungry 10:14 — How Joe developed mental toughness 11:32 — How to manufacture adversity in your life 13:29 — What the other side of adversity feels like 15:14 — Joe’s obstacle-racing catalyst 19:03 — Why Joe started the Spartan Race 21:07 — What "Suffering Together" means 23:26 — The difference between "difficult" and "desperate" 25:16 — Joe’s advice to anyone who wants to do a Spartan Race 29:38 — How to raise resilient kids 32:21 — The application of "Fire. Ready. Aim."  34:41 — Tactical ways to do hard things 39:56 — How Joe describes success ---- Links & Resources Netflix The Menu (film) Wendy’s Shackelton’s Expedition Sir Edmund Hillary Spartan Race Tough Mudder Event Wall Street The Transcendence Run Iditarod  Saks Fifth Avenue Nike Facebook Goldman Sachs Mat Fraser Green Beret ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #73 James Lawrence – Iron Cowboy: 101 Ironmans in 101 Days #63 Mat Fraser – The Fittest Man on Earth #173 AMMA – Healthy Habits and High Performance
Entrepreneurship is not for the faint of heart, but every successful law firm owner has to start somewhere. From setting up shop, to onboarding support staff, to signing up the best cases and clients — each key phase of growth demands unwavering determination and relentless perseverance. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill share: How to find the courage to take the entrepreneurial leap How to overcome the challenges and uncertainties of making a crucial hire How to effectively market your law firm and establish a strong client base from the ground up ---- Show Notes: 02:19 – Making the choice between financial security and entrepreneurial freedom 05:21 – The difference between wanting it and committing to it 08:39 – Sacrificing luxuries and lifestyle comforts for entrepreneurial dreams  10:08 – How to navigate the decision to hire an associate 12:33 – Invest in capacity or pay the cost with your well-being 14:50 – How to attract clients and build a steady stream of business 19:00 – How to prepare for more cases ---- Links & Resources Ramen Noodles Porsche Mercedes-Benz The Game Changing Attorney (Book) Crisp Coach  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #55 Marcus Lemonis – The Three Keys to Business: People, Process, and Product #113 Kevin O’Leary – The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful #243 AMMA – Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey
In a world where quitting is often the easiest path, Ryan Hendrickson — U.S. Special Forces Engineer and best-selling author — stands out as a beacon of unwavering dedication. Despite the life-altering event of stepping on an improvised explosive device in Afghanistan which blew off his foot, Ryan's commitment to duty led him back to the battlefield time and again. Join us for an unforgettable episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast as Ryan delves into: Embracing a "we" mentality over a "me" mentality Discerning between giving your all and succumbing to quitting The stark reality of living on the edge in combat situations ---- Show Notes: 03:12 – Why Ryan wrote The Tip of the Spear 06:12 – How Ryan’s family shaped his resilience and determination 10:59 – Why Ryan chose to pursue a military path 13:05 – The rise from a navy deck hand to the Special Forces 14:15 – The struggle of adapting to civilian life 15:56 – The importance of structure and discipline in success 19:29 – Becoming mentally tough 24:51 – Special Forces training 38:47 – Mindset and mission in training 39:52 – What it means to be a Green Beret 42:20 – Ryan’s journey to becoming a Green Beret 44:54 – The role of teamwork in Special Forces selection 48:13 – Adapting to the frontlines  54:54 – Surviving an IED blast and the road to recovery 01:08:28 – Ryan’s drive to return to combat 01:13:49 – The harsh reality of returning to the battlefield 01:15:29 – Ryan’s unexpected challenges and proving his worth 01:17:17 — Overcoming fear and finding purpose 01:18:05 – Hilltop 2000: a mission of perseverance and perspective 01:22:14 – Surviving the Taliban's ambush 01:36:21 – The unending search for adrenaline 01:38:51 – How Ryan found purpose beyond the battlefield 01:39:54 – A call for mental health awareness and veteran support 01:46:03 – Confronting entitlement and embracing hard work 01:48:20 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Ryan Hendrickson ---- Links & Resources Green Berets Navy SEALs Joe Rogan Purple Heart Special Forces Basic Underwater Demolition/SEALs (BUD/S) Army Rangers The Taliban Improvised Explosive Device (IED) ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #141 David Goggins – Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within #73 James Lawrence – Iron Cowboy: 101 Ironmans In 101 Days #210 AMMA – Failure Isn’t Final: Lessons Learned from Setbacks and Struggles
Are you constantly chasing the next big thing, only to find yourself stuck in a cycle of distraction and indecision? It's time to break free. In this eye-opening episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill share: How to maintain a sense of clarity and purpose in the face of constant change How to overcome analysis paralysis and trust your instincts How to build resilience and stay committed to seeing things through ---- Show Notes: 07:06 — How to stop being distracted 10:26 — Why you should top saying “yes” to everything 12:44 — How to make better decisions 19:21 — What you gain from sticking with it 20:56 — How to build discipline and resilience ---- Links & Resources LASIK Eye Surgery Crisp Coach Google Ads Amazon The RFP Process Indecisiveness Is Weakness GCA Podcast Episode #183 — AMMA: How Great Leaders Make Decisions Mike Tyson  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #229 David Goggins – Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within #101 Ayelet Fishbach – Get It Done: The Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation #183 AMMA – How Great Leaders Make Decisions
Embarking on the journey of entrepreneurship demands resilience, courage, and unwavering determination to navigate through its myriad challenges. Enter Alex Hormozi, the visionary Founder & Managing Partner of Acquisition.com. Alex's path to success has been far from straightforward, marked by twists and turns that have ultimately led him to his current role alongside his partner, Leila. Yet, the hurdles he overcame along the way remain etched in his memory, shaping his remarkable journey. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Alex and Michael delve into: Unveiling how ego obstructs progress Exploring the transformative power of acquiring new skills Embracing humility as a catalyst for achieving extraordinary success ---- Show Notes: 02:50 — How Alex Hormozi Built His Brand 05:00 — Alex Hormozi's Path to $100M in 7 Years 08:02 — Alex Hormozi Shares His Rock-Bottom Moments 14:26 — What Keeps Alex Hormozi Going 15:23 — The TRUTH About Entrepreneurship 17:33 — Alex Hormozi on His Relationship With Leila Hormozi 20:12 — Alex Hormozi's Relationship Advice for Entrepreneurs 22:15 — The 3 Common Traits That All Successful Entrepreneurs Have 26:30 — How to Tell How Successful Someone Will Be in Business 28:02 — The Single Common Thing That All Entrepreneurs Will Face 29:12 — The Reason Why Most New Businesses Fail 31:52 — The Dangers of Ego in Business 33:47 — Alex Hormozi Explains Acquisition.com  35:04 — What the Best Businesses Have in Common 36:34 — Why People Aren't Making Any Money 40:35 — How Alex Hormozi Views Competition 44:36 — Alex Hormozi Weighs in on AI 47:37 — How to Get Smarter 48:33 — How Alex Hormozi Spends His Time 49:42 — What Keeps Alex Hormozi Motivated ---- Links & Resources Leila Hormozi Acquisition.com Gym Launch Jessica Mogill Warren Buffet Queen Elizabeth II  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #187 Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire #232 Ross Pomerantz — Sales, Satire, and Social Media: The Unconventional Journey of Corporate Bro #243 AMMA — Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey
Ever wondered how those business power couples achieve success in their law firms and their households? Strap in for a deep dive into the intricacies of working alongside your spouse. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill share their insights on: How to provide uncomfortable yet critical feedback to your coworking spouse How to address and resolve conflicting business beliefs  Many more do's and don'ts of working with your spouse ---- Show Notes: 04:21 – How to provide feedback to your co-working spouse 06:24 – It’s not what you say; it’s how you say it 07:43 – Jessica’s take on working with Michael 10:27 – How to address and resolve conflicting beliefs about investments 14:14 – Invest in alignment with your goals and vision 17:31 – How to get your spouse excited about business ---- Links & Resources LASIK Eye Surgery Crisp Coach Kolbe ATM Index Assessment PRINT® Assessment NFTs  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #47 Jessica Mogill – A Transformational Partnership: How Opposites Attract #245 Sheila Heen – How to Master Difficult Conversations #173 AMMA – Healthy Habits and High Performance
Can calculated decisions lead to true financial freedom, or is it all just wishful thinking? Prepare to discover how one entrepreneur turned a series of sound yet lucrative investments into a multimillion-dollar empire. Meet Codie Sanchez, a finance maven who's on a mission to create financially free and free-thinking humans. As the Founder & CEO of Contrarian Thinking — one of the fastest-growing financial media businesses in the nation — she's helped thousands of entrepreneurs grow, buy, and sell profitable businesses. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Codie and Michael Mogill discuss: The three realms of income — and how to maximize all of them Why the path less traveled isn’t always the best one to take How to set yourself up for success in buying or selling your law firm And more! ---- Show Notes: 03:56 – Why Codie is obsessed with people getting ownership  07:53 – Why you need to stop chasing unicorns  13:37 – How to buy your first business 15:47 – How to determine if you’re cut out for entrepreneurship 18:14 – Why you should pick the path MORE traveled 20:43 – The criteria of a good investment vs. a bad one 24:08 – How to make your law firm investable 27:12 – The differences between cashflow and cashsuck businesses 31:14 – Why making money and keeping money are two different things 33:45 – How to effectively work with your spouse ---- Links & Resources Contrarian Thinking Contrarian Community Forbes Episode 151 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Bill Perkins The FIRE Movement The FatFIRE Movement Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs Henry David Thoreau The 7 Horsemen of the Great Sell-Off Warren Buffett How To Build A Business That Will Sell For Millions (12-Month Plan) Cashflow Businesses vs. Cashsuck Businesses Exxon Morgan Housel The Psychology of Money (Book) Contrarian Thinking’s Small Biz Buyer Insights Report 2024  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #151 Bill Perkins — Die With Zero: Getting All You Can From Your Money and Your Life #223 Chad Willardson — Achieving Financial Freedom: Strategies for Building Abundant Wealth #201 AMMA — Take the Stairs: The REAL Path to Growth
Ever feel like meetings suck up your day, leaving little to show for it? It's time to discover a more effective approach. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill will teach you: How to structure and stick to an action-oriented agenda How to streamline your meetings to get more done in less time Strategies for keeping meeting participants engaged ---- Show Notes: 05:33 — How much money your meetings are costing your firm 06:34 — The non-negotiable pre-work to every meeting 08:18 — How to make every single one of your meetings more efficient, immediately 10:00 — How to get your team to be more engaged in meeting 16:11 — How to determine what meetings you should actually be having 18:01 — Why you, as the law firm owner, are not needed in every meeting ---- Links & Resources Meeting Cost Calculator for Google Calendar Slack Teams Zoom  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #187 Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire #25 Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to Be a Kick-Ass Boss #217 AMMA — The Key to Clarity in Business
Without a doubt, John Morgan, the visionary behind Morgan & Morgan, has established himself as a prominent figure in expanding America's leading personal injury law firm. In this special-edition episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, recorded LIVE at the 2022 Game Changers Summit on the field of the Mercedes-Benz Stadium, you'll have the opportunity to delve deeper into his persona and his unique approach to business. Prepare yourself for an insightful exploration of: John Morgan's journey to fame in the legal industry The single greatest threat to law firm owners across the nation The significance of luck in achieving excellence — though it's just one piece of the puzzle ---- Show Notes: 03:30 – Addressing everyone listening who hates John Morgan’s guts 05:00 – How John crafts killer marketing strategies 08:30 – Why John started his own law firm 13:30 – How to evaluate if someone has hunger (the insatiable appetite to win) 15:45 – Why Morgan & Morgan is run by predominantly non-lawyers 19:43 – The greatest threat to every law firm in America 21:45 – How John stays hungry 24:44 – Why life is luck 29:16 – The meaning of John’s email signature (“Faith without works is dead.”) 30:53 – Grow or die ---- Links & Resources Kentucky Wildcats John Calipari Boston Red Sox Warren Buffett Oprah Winfrey Google LeBron James Russell Westbrook Carrabba’s You Can’t Teach Hungry: Creating the Multimillion Dollar Firm by John Morgan Joe Fried President Joe Biden Nick Saban Tom Brady  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #1 John Morgan – Building The Google Law Firm & Why You Can’t Teach Hungry #69 Brian Panish – Champions Compete With Themselves #243 AMMA – Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey
As the saying goes: ambition is common, commitment is rare. Many desire greatness but few dedicate themselves to doing everything possible to achieve their objectives. But what does it really take? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill will teach you: The habits and behaviors that all high-performers emulate The difference between being busy and being productive How to cultivate more discipline and commitment to achieving what you set out to do ---- Show Notes: 05:35 – How to turn low performers into high performers 10:21 – How to break the cycle of late nights and long hours at the office 13:11 – How to get more done in less time 17:20 – Why not all goals are equal 20:14 – The difference between “should” and “must” ---- Links & Resources Chris Voss Huberman Lab Podcast David Goggins The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast Parkinson’s Law Crisp Coach ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #158 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success #187 Dan Martell – Buy Back Your Time: Get Unstuck, Reclaim Your Freedom, and Build Your Empire #239 AMMA – Raise Your Standards
Nearly every kind of feedback — whether you agree with it or not — can be used to help you grow. Sheila Heen knows this well. As the founder of Triad Consulting Group, professor of practice at Harvard Law School, and the co-author of Thanks for the Feedback: The Science and Art of Receiving Feedback Well and Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most, Sheila has spent nearly 30 years helping executive teams across the world work through conflict, repair working relationships, and make sound decisions together. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Sheila and Michael Mogill discuss: The underlying structure and challenge of every difficult conversation The different types of feedback leaders can give — and what actually works How to raise tough issues and have productive conversations ---- Show Notes: 07:34 – The single most valuable skill you can have 14:57 – Defining difficult conversations 17:58 – How to navigate a tough talk 20:57 – Not everything is either/or 23:22 – Starting difficult conversations with a third story 29:35 – The 3 types of feedback 34:24 – Navigating sensitivity 38:44 – Front seat leader, back seat feedback 42:10 – What being a game changer means to Sheila Heen ---- Links & Resources Triad Consulting Group Harvard Law School Thanks for the Feedback: The Science and Art of Receiving Feedback Well by Douglas Stone and Sheila Heen Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most by Douglas Stone, Bruce Patton, and Sheila Heen Occidental College The Harvard Negotiation Project Bruce Patton Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck Getting It Done by Roger Fisher. John Richardson, and Alan Sharp Tesla The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #162 Kim Scott – Radical Candor: How to Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity #166 John Maxwell #217 AMMA  – The Key to Clarity in Business
When you encounter a lawyer committed to advocating for the underprivileged with unwavering determination, you know you've found someone truly exceptional. Rex Elliott embodies that dedication. His life's mission revolves around assisting those deprived of opportunities, relentlessly pursuing cases others shy away from — and that resolve has defined his remarkable success. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Rex joins Michael to explore: Strategies for harnessing media attention in high-profile cases The profound lessons gleaned from setbacks rather than triumphs The transformative potential of attorneys to effect positive change in society ---- Show Notes: 07:20 – Take a new perspective: I’ve learned many lessons over the years thanks to the things that have happened to me, both good and bad. During the low moments, I've tried to see through that particular problem and figure out why it was that that was happening to me at the time. If you're not listening and observing those kinds of things, you'll miss them. 09:56 – A game changing case: Willie Gladdens was on death row for killing his white girlfriend’s former white ex-boyfriend out of self-defense. At the time, I was at a big firm, and our job was to get him off of death row — and we did that. He even managed to get out of prison and live a productive life later on. That’s when I felt for the first time that my license to practice law was being used in the way that God intended me to use it. I was helping another person who needed it the most. 14:44 – Leverage the media: The media can be a powerful partner with you in terms of getting your message out. I’ve always used the media as a member of our team, and if you’re good to them and never misstate things to them, they will be powerful partners for you.  19:02 – Putting an end to hazing: There are 18- to 22-year-old kids living within a system that was created for them by adults. We need to focus on the national organizations and the universities to put a stop to this. We have had a hazing death on a college campus in this country every single year since 1959, and it's become my mission to do everything I can to end hazing altogether. 23:25 – ​​Canceling the Greek system’s pledge programs: They're antiquated, they're archaic, and there's absolutely no purpose for a pledge program anymore. That's where all these deaths and injuries are occurring because there's an imbalance of power. I think we need to eliminate pledge programs in general. One more death on a college campus in this country is too much. ---- Links & Resources Denison University Syracuse University Sullivan & Cromwell National Football League Willie Gladdens Donovan Lewis Ben Crump Stone Foltz Collin Wiant Bowling Green University Entrepreneurs’ Organization  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #209 Mark Lanier – A Lasting Legacy of Justice, Truth, and Billion-Dollar Verdicts #178 Brian Panish – Champions Compete with Themselves #241 AMMA – The Brutally Honest Guide to Public Speaking
In a world where success is far from guaranteed, how do you navigate the path of uncertainty toward your goals? In this thought-provoking episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill delve into the raw truths of business ownership and the mindset required to succeed. Join us as we explore: How to guarantee you’ll never achieve your goals Why the most valuable lessons are learned through experience and failure The key difference between ambition and commitment ---- Show Notes: 06:05 – The brutal truth: Business is the hardest thing you will ever do. I try to discourage people from entrepreneurship because they watch a lot of Shark Tank and they think that they're all going to make millions of dollars. The reality of it is that the majority of them will never do that 07:30 – Risk vs. reward: If you look at the statistics, there's a greater chance that you won't succeed than there's the chance that you will succeed — especially if you have aspirational goals.  11:00 – Everyone’s replaceable: There are 8 billion people on this planet. By the way, whoever you believe was a rock star, you may find another one who's even better — and you probably will, because your standards change and evolve. There are graveyards full of ‘irreplaceable’ people. 18:01 – Commitment’s silent sacrifices: The results that you see from the people you admire is work that's done in the shadows. That's work that you don't see on social media. 19:23 – B*tch or beast: The majority of businesses do not grow to seven figures or eight figures. You want to know why that is? Because the majority of people are not willing to do what it takes. You’ve got to decide which one you are: b*tch or beast? I don't know what else to tell you. Not everyone is built for this. ---- Links & Resources Joe Rogan Podcast Huberman Lab Podcast Shark Tank TikTok Fugazi Crisp Coach Netflix  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #113 Kevin O’Leary – The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful #158 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success #230 AMMA – How to Achieve Bigger Goals
Chris Voss is one of the world's leading authorities on negotiation. As a former Lead FBI International Hostage Negotiator and CEO of The Black Swan Group, he’s spent years mastering the art of negotiation in high-stakes situations. For law firm owners, negotiation isn't a professional skill. It's a daily necessity. Negotiations touch every part of our lives. They range from reaching settlements with opposing counsel. They also include managing team dynamics and even deciding what's for dinner. In this captivating new episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Chris and Michael Mogill take a deep dive into: The hidden power of maintaining a positive frame of mind in negotiations The dangers of falling for the illusion of a “win-win” negotiation How generosity can be a secret weapon in your negotiation arsenal ---- Show Notes: 05:07 – Negotiation in real life vs. television 09:45 – The power of a positive frame of mind 15:10 – The dangers of a “win-win” negotiation 18:33 – Be generous 22:53 – Cognitive vs. Tactical Empathy 32:29 – Negotiation in the digital age 36:34 – Put in the reps 45:45 – Learn from your losses and your win ---- Links & Resources Nick Nanton DNA Films Warren Buffett Delta Masterclass Suits (Television Show) Mark Wahlberg Daniel Pink Start With No (Book) Lyft TSA Empathy and Understanding In Business (Book) Tiger Woods Kansas City Chiefs Kirk Cousins Roger Bannister Netflix Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks Baltimore Ravens Joe Flacco Patrick Mahomes University of Alabama Marcus Mariota Walter Isaacson Elon Musk Tesla Starlink SpaceX Black Swan Group ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #5 Chris Voss – Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life #231 Steven Kotler – Harnessing Neuroscience for Peak Performance #196 AMMA – The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage
Have you ironed out your personal brand but are struggling to take your thought leadership to the next level? Stuck on securing those prime legal conference speaking slots despite your expertise? Get ready to elevate your influence and uncover the blueprint for landing top-tier speaking gigs in the legal industry. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss: How to make a strong impression and secure the best speaking opportunities The do’s and don’ts of delivering a memorable and meaningful keynote presentation How to maximize your impact when sharing the stage ---- Show Notes: 05:50 – 3 ways to land a gig 09:55 – Practice makes perfect progress 15:23 – Value beats self-promotion 16:16 – Be helpful. Be humble. ---- Links & Resources The 2018 Game Changers Summit The 2019 Game Changers Summit  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #154 Conrad Saam – Data Over Guesswork: The Strategies Behind Effective Legal Marketing #148 Randy Kessler – The Power of Strengths-Based Leadership #196 AMMA – The Nine Sources of Advantage
Crisp’s Head of Coaching Strategy and operational mastermind Jessica Mogill has trained over 1,000 practices nationwide, providing them with the skills and tools to build world-class organizations by hiring exceptional team members. In this special-edition episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Jessica and Michael Mogill discuss: Why compromising on talent is a recipe for disaster The undeniable value of A-players and why they're worth the wait How to cultivate a firm culture that attracts and retains top-tier talent ---- Show Notes: 05:18 – Don’t compromise 07:05 – A-Players are worth the wait 08:02 – Be a leader worth following 10:46 – “Hell yes” or “Hell no” ---- Links & Resources The 5-Step Process to Successful Law Firm Hiring Ritz-Carlton Starbucks Amazon Facebook LinkedIn  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #47 Jessica Mogill – A Transformational Partnership: How Opposites Attract #188 Liz Wiseman – Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact #219 AMMA – A Deeper Look at Leadership
Ever wonder why some law firms soar while others struggle to stay afloat? Brace yourself for a no-nonsense discussion on how to transform your team and marketing strategies from average to exceptional. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take a deep dive into: The importance of setting and reinforcing high standards in your organization How to raise the bar for your team’s contributions Why world-class results are earned — not given ---- Show Notes: 04:07 – Set the bar 06:28 – You endorse what you tolerate 07:10 – Standards in action 09:01 – Reinforce excellence 12:25 – Release low performers 16:56 – Earn the best cases 23:05 – Clear branding wins ---- Links & Resources The Ritz-Carlton Rolls-Royce Apple Patriots University of Alabama University of Georgia Super Bowl Nick Saban Kirby Smart Michelin Guide Episode 217 — AMMA: The Key to Clarity in Business PRINT® Assessment Episode 5 — Chris Voss: FBI Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life The Game Changing Attorney (Book) Facebook Instagram Crisp Coach  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #156 Chris Voss – FBI Negotiation Strategies for Business and Life #36 Ryan Deiss – Truth Over Tactics: Marketing Strategies that Actually Work #143 AMMA – Teslas, Distractions, and Rebuilding from Zero
Looking into a crystal ball won't reveal the future, but best-selling author and the world's #1 communication coach Dorie Clark is here to guide you toward better preparation for what lies ahead. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dorie and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill delve into: The underlying reasons behind our obsession with busyness The transformational concept of strategic patience Why growth is an endless journey ---- Show Notes: 05:03 – Mastering strategic patience 08:50 – Clear your calendar 14:30 – Say “no” to mediocre offers 23:10 – Consider your future self 27:05 – The 4 waves of your career 32:25 – Learning is infinite 36:00 – Long-term essentials ---- Links & Resources The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World by Dorie Clark TEDx Derek Sivers Ukraine  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: #197 Robert Greene – The Laws of Power and Human Nature #223 Chad Willardson – Achieving Financial Freedom: Strategies for Building Abundant Wealth #201 AMMA – Take The Stairs: The Real Path to Growth
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