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The Good, The Bad & The Rugby, the biggest podcast in the world just got bigger. All Blacks legend Justin Marshall, World Cup winning Wallaby Jeremy Paul, Wallabies superstar James OcConnor and kiwi podcaster Andy Rowe Team Up for GB&R ANZ, bringing you the latest rugby news, stories and much more from down under.

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GBRANZ is back for 2025 - just in time for the kick off of the new Super Rugby season! James O’Connor joins Justin Marshall, Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe to discuss his recent viral clip at McDonalds and life in New Zealand, why he decided to join the Crusaders, and the upcoming Super Rugby schedule. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It’s our season finale, so World Cup Winner Jeremy Paul is back with All Blacks legend Justin Marshall and host Andy Rowe. This week we take a look at how coach Joe Schmidt has turned around the Wallabies. Marshy gives his thoughts on what Australia can do now to go to the next level, while JPs confidence is sky high ahead of the Lions tour down under in 2025! GBRANZ are stoked to be partnering with Angel Bay to bring you the Northern Tour, with their new Gourmet Breakfast Beef Sausage Patties, the perfect pairing for those early games.  More information on their delicious meat patties can be found here www.angelbay.com/breakfast Download the SAILY app - use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase. 00:00 Intro 05:17 2024 World Rugby Players of the Year 10:23 GBRANZ & Saily  12:44 Wallabies Northern Tour Review 25:45 How do Wallabies get to the next level? 32:25 Wallabies Debutants (Tane Edmed) 37:25 GBRANZ & Angel Bay 38:48 Season Finale Farewell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
World Cup winning Springboks captain John Smit joins former All Black Justin Marshall and host Andy Rowe this week. Smit and Marshall reveal details of their infamous special forces pre World Cup training camps. We dig into the impact Eddie Jones had on the 2007 champions and John Smit gives us some amazing stories from his relationship with Nelson Mandela. GBRANZ are stoked to be partnering with Angel Bay to bring you the Northern Tour, with their new Gourmet Breakfast Beef Sausage Patties, the perfect pairing for those early games.  More information on their delicious meat patties can be found here www.angelbay.com/breakfast Download the SAILY app - use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase. 00:00 Intro 06:20 John Smit on Springboks 2003 World Cup Training Camp 10:46 Justin Marshall on All Blacks 1999 World Cup Training Camp 17:39 The effectiveness of training camps 21:33 John Smit on 2007 Rugby World Cup 24:17 GBRANZ & Angel Bay 27:48 John Smit on Eddie Jones coaching at the Springboks 34:02 John Smit on 2007 Rugby World Cup Final 36:45 John Smit on 1995 Rugby World Cup 41:55 John Smit on meeting Nelson Mandela 45:01 GBRANZ & Saily 47:10 John Smit on Barney’s Army (John Smit Foundation) 50:17 John Smit on winning the 2007 Rugby World Cup Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week on GBRANZ, Jeremy Paul pork chops himself early and it only gets spicer from there. We break down the Wallabies performance against the Lions, pick our Lions/Wallabies XV and ask the big questions - should Bundee Aki have started at 12? Are the Springboks a step up from the Lions? And where are the Wallabies at right now. Plus we talk a look at the All Blacks squad for the Rugby Championship. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ CHAPTERS 00:04:00 Jeremy Paul pork chops himself 00:08:00 The Wallabies performance against the Lions 00:12:00 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week 00:16:00 Our Combined Lions / Wallabies XV 00:24:20 Should Bundee Aki have started at 12 for the Lions? 00:26:30 HSBC Australia's "Rugby's Best Exchange" 00:30:32 Our assessment of where the Wallabies are at 00:33:50 Are the Springboks a step up from the Lions? 00:45:00 The All Blacks squad for The Rugby Championship Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All Blacks superstar Israel Dagg joins Jeremy Paul, Justin Marshall and Andy Rowe to break down the second test between the Wallabies and Lions in Melbourne. First on the agenda, we discuss that controversial clear out from Jac Morgan in the lead up to the Lions match winning try to Hugo Keenan. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ Click the link for tickets to the Live Show at The Establishment Sydney on Thursday 31 July! ⁠https://moshtix.com.au/v2/event/the-good-the-bad-the-rugby-%E2%80%93-live-show/181667?previewId=A6935A80-427F-11F0-B10D-EFE2262313DD⁠ CHAPTERS 00:00:10 Should Jac Morgan have been penalised 00:09:30 The major difference in the Wallabies 00:16:43 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week 00:26:00 HSBC Australia's Rugby’s Best Exchange 00:32:00 What changes we'd make to the Wallabies 00:40:00 Justin Marshall joins the show 00:46:00 Will Skelton being a pest 00:50:40 Marshy's verdict on Jac Morgan's hit on Tizzano Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Wallabies legend Jeremy Paul & All Blacks great Justin Marshall review the first test between the Wallabies and Lions. Marshy breaks down what went wrong for the Wallabies backline, while JP gives us some insight into where the forwards need to improve. Plus we review the series between the All Blacks and France. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ Click the link for tickets to the Live Show at The Establishment Sydney on Thursday 31 July! ⁠https://moshtix.com.au/v2/event/the-good-the-bad-the-rugby-%E2%80%93-live-show/181667?previewId=A6935A80-427F-11F0-B10D-EFE2262313DD ⁠CHAPTERS 00:00:45 Wallabies v Lions first test review 00:09:00 Did the Wallabies midfield work? 00:12:00 The Wallabies were too deep in the backline 00:13:30 Harvey Norman next gen moment of the week00:16:24 Potential changes to the Wallabies for 2nd test 00:24:16 HSBC Rugby's Best Exchange 00:31:20 All Blacks review vs France 00:40:00 Can the Wallabies make it 1 all in Melbourne? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All Blacks legend Justin Marshall & World Cup Winning Wallaby Jeremy Paul join Andy Rowe to discuss the Wallabies, All Blacks, Lions & Springboks! JP names his Wallabies 23 for the first test, while Marshy makes some big tweaks to Joe Schmidt's backline. The lads discuss what changes Razor might make for the third test against France and have some strong thoughts on Rassie's latest innovation! This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ Click the link for tickets to the Live Show at The Establishment Sydney on Thursday 31 July! https://moshtix.com.au/v2/event/the-good-the-bad-the-rugby-%E2%80%93-live-show/181667?previewId=A6935A80-427F-11F0-B10D-EFE2262313DD CHAPTERS 00:02:20 JOC has made the Wallabies! 00:09:55 Why Marshy thinks JOC should start 00:13:25 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week 00:13:45 The Springboks new innovation 00:15:30 JP names his Wallabies 23 for the first test 00:24:00 Review of the All Blacks v France 00:35:00 HSBC Australia's "Rugby's Best Exchange" 00:36:00 Who JP thinks the Lions need to start in the back row 00:46:00 Who will the Lions start in the centres 00:49:43 Are the Springboks tactics disrespecting the game? 00:58:40 Why the Lions supporters are the best in the world Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Former Wallaby Jeremy Paul doubles down on French rugby disrespecting the international game. We chat to James O'Connor on his move to Leicester and potential call up to face the Lions. Justin Marshall breaks down the All Blacks performance and gives his thoughts on the French B team. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ CHAPTERS 00:01:30 Marshy and JP on French Rugby 00:10:50 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment of the Week. 00:12:00 Review of All Blacks v France 00:20:00 Review of Wallabies v Fiji 00:42:00 James O'Connor joins the show 00:54:00 HSBC Australia's ‘Rugby’s Best Exchange' 01:00:00 Previewing the rugby coming up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Wallabies scrum half Nic White and former All Black Ryan Crotty join Justin Marshall, Jeremy Paul & Andy Rowe for an action packed episode. White talks us through what it was like to face the Lions and how rugby has taken over in Australia. Crotty discussed what it was like to play in the same teams as Ma'a Nonu and Sonny Bill Williams. Plus, the impact Ronan O'Gara had on the Crusaders & All Blacks defence. JP talks ups the Lions tight five, while Marshy lets rip on French rugby. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ CHAPTERS 00:02:00 Playing as a 12 with Ma'a Nonu & Sonny Bill Williams 00:09:30 Ronan O'Gara's impact on Crusaders & All Blacks defence 00:17:00 Jeremy Paul joins the show 00:32:00 HSBC Australia's "Rugby's Best Exchange" 00:43:20 Wallaby Nic White joins the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Former Wallaby Jeremy Paul is back in studio with All Blacks legend Justin Marshall and Andy Rowe. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ The Crusaders have claimed another title so we unpick how they won the final against the Chiefs. The Wallabies and The All Blacks have named their squads, so we take a look at who made it and who missed out! Plus, the lads take a close look at The Lions, after their opening loss to Argentina in Dublin! Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz CHAPTERS 02:00 Super Rugby final analysis 18:00 James O'Connor missing the Wallabies squad 22:10 The Wallabies squad 27:30 Argentina's win over The Lions! 34:12 HSBC Australia's "Rugby's Best Exchange" 36:04 The All Blacks squad 42:36 Saily advert 01:06:00 What we're most excited about with both squads Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week Crusaders first five Taha Kemara joins All Blacks legend Justin Marshall, Wallaby James O'Connor and Andy Rowe. This episode is brought to you by HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account. One account. No fees.* Multiple currencies. *T&Cs apply https://www.hsbc.com.au/accounts/offers/campaigns/travel-account/ The lads preview this weekend's final between the Crusaders and Chiefs as well as reviewing both semi finals. We take a look at what went down in the URC and the Premier finals and Marshy is fired up on Dan Coles yellow card! Plus, Mashy caught up with Scott Robertson and has all the latest on the upcoming All Blacks squad! Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz Chapters 00:44 HSBC Australia's Everyday Global Account Visa Debit Card 06:48 Taha's injury 17:16 Review of the Crusaders vs Blues 20:20 Review of the Chiefs vs Brumbies semi final 23:38 HSBC Australia's "Rugby's Best Exchange" 25:53 Marshy tells us about his catch up with All Blacks coach Scott Robertson 32:35 Scott Barrett = LeBron James for the Crusaders 41:56 Saily 44:00 URC final review 45:40 Premiership final review 48:00 Dan Cole's yellow card 56:52 Wazza's Words of Wisdom for Rabs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This week we're looking at Super Rugby, URC and the Premiership as finals fever hits! All Blacks legend Justin Marshall and Wallabies Jeremy Paul, James O'Connor discuss the Crusaders v Blues rivalry, Noah Lolesio's red hot form and who they think should be the All Blacks 12. Plus we take a look at the Premiership and URC finals. Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz Chapters 03.25 NZR CEO resignation 06.50 James O'Connor's gloves 11.50 Rivez Reihana form 13.21 Why David Havili is so good 23.50 Crusaders v Blues rivalry 26.67 Wallaby world cup winner Jeremy Paul talks Brumbies 32.55 The Premiership final - Leicester v Bath 37.50 James O'Connor on playing for Michael Cheika 43.50 The URC Final predictions 45.50 The sad passing of former All Blacks captain Stu Wilson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On this episode All Blacks legend Justin Marshall, Wallaby & Crusader James O'Connor, former Wallaby Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe discuss the Super Rugby playoffs and the World Club Cup. We also take a look at Richie Mo'unga, who's won yet another title in Japan, and Rabs (James O'Connor) gives his thoughts on what makes him so good! JP (Jeremy Paul) joins us remotely to give his thoughts on the controversy in Canberra and what he thought of the fall out that followed! Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz 02:10 World Rugby listens to Marshy 10:20 Richie Mo'ugna wins another title 15:33 Our podcast partner Saily 17:20 James O'Connor's new role at The Crusaders 21:30 Jeremy Paul joins the show to discuss the Brumbies being robbed 32:16 Why Crusaders love finals footy 39:00 Andy Rowe explains how the finals system works 42:30 Chiefs vs Blues preview 46:00 The World Club Cup Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All Blacks great Ali Williams joins Justin Marshall, Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe to discus his career and life after rugby. We cover the how a shower with his wife lead to the formation of Auckland AFC, how the All Blacks prepared to face the 2005 Lions and the lessons learned from the 2007 Rugby World Cup that led to victory in 2011. Wallaby James O'Conor also joins the show to reminisce about their time in Toulon playing for one of the greatest club sides ever assembled. AND... Ali Williams talks us through THAT cross field kick! Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz Chapters 02:56 The Birth of Auckland AFC 05:58 Community Engagement and Cultural Diversity 08:52 The Competitive Landscape of Sports in New Zealand 12:01 Collaboration Between New Zealand and Australia 15:06 Transitioning from Football to Rugby 17:58 Reflections on Competitive Spirit and Team Dynamics 18:29 On-Field Rivalries and Banter 22:18 Recognition and Legacy in Rugby 24:19 The Emotional Stakes of the British and Irish Lions 26:31 Reflecting on Career Highlights and Challenges 30:50 The Unique Culture of Toulon Rugby 35:13 The Impact of Team Dynamics and Leadership 41:29 Judicial Hearings - Bakkies Botha 42:05 Memories of Alley on the Field 47:15 Mental Strength and Team Dynamics 49:32 Lessons from World Cup Experiences 51:43 Influence of Family on Athletic Careers 54:00 Perspective from Personal Challenges 56:30 The Power of the Jersey 01:00:41 Ali Williams cross field kick 01:05:34 Legacy Beyond Medals Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
All Blacks great Grant Fox is in studio immediately following Ryan Fox's recent PGA Tour victory, reflecting on his journey and the pride it brings to his family. The discussion transitions into Fox's early life, his friendship with Martin Crowe, and his rise in the rugby world, highlighting the significance of leadership and teamwork. The conversation further explores the legacy of the Auckland rugby team in the 80s, their dominance, and the cultural importance of the Ranfurly Shield in New Zealand rugby, emphasising the respect and camaraderie among players. We relive some famous moments from Fox's career, including is winning kick against the Lions.Fox also reflects on the adversity encountered on the path to winning the 1987 World Cup, highlighting the evolution of rugby and the athletes who shaped its legacy. He discusses the role of an All Black selector, while Marshy and Fox share hilarious stories their time working with Sir Steve Hansen. Download SAILY in your app store and use our code GBRANZ at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase ✅ For further details go to https://saily.com/gbranz 00:00 Celebrating Ryan Fox's PGA Tour Win 06:01 Grant Fox's Early Life and Career 12:08 The Auckland Rugby Legacy 19:04 The Ranfurly Shield and Its Significance 25:53 The Legacy of the Lions Tour 30:39 Tactical Preparation and Goal Kicking 35:33 The Pressure of High-Stakes Kicking 48:38 The 1987 World Cup Experience 55:12 Emerging Talents and Injuries in Rugby 56:06 The Birth of the Rugby World Cup 57:36 Amateur Days and Fundraising Stories 01:02:57 The Role of an All Black Selector 01:10:55 Understanding Steve Hansen's Coaching Philosophy 01:17:51 Reflections on Regrets and Learning Moments 01:20:54 Personal Life and Career Reflections Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Rugby legends Justin Marshall & Jeremy Paul join Andy Rowe to cover the Lions squad announcement. The lads discus Maro Itoji as the captaincy choice and the importance of team combinations. Is Henry Pollock over hyped, or could he be a go to key player for coach Andy Farrell? Marshy gets fired up with World Rugby's lack of law changes, and Jeremy Paul reminisces about a fight he was involved with against Ireland. 00:00 Introduction and Banter Among Legends 02:59 Financial Challenges in Rugby Australia05:52The Anzac Test Proposal 08:54 Inspiring Stories from Rugby History 12:09 British and Irish Lions Squad Discussion 14:54 Captaincy and Team Dynamics 18:02 Combining Styles and Strategies in Rugby 21:01 The Importance of Goal Kicking in Rugby 24:25 Strategic Player Selection and Injuries 27:18 Emerging Talents: The Case of Henry Pollock 30:34 The Impact of Law Changes on the Game 36:10 Red Card Controversies and Game Spectacle 43:50 Fight: Jeremy Paul's involvement in the Trevor Brennan v Toutai Kefu fight Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Wallaby's legend Owen Finegan joins Justin Marshall, Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe to shares his journey from being a young rugby player at Randwick to becoming a World Cup winner with the Wallabies. He reflects on his memorable try in the 1999 World Cup final, the challenges faced by the team leading up to that victory, and the camaraderie that defined their success. He also talks about the infamous Cape Town incident, highlighting the transition from amateurism to professionalism in rugby, and the importance of maintaining a balance between personal life and sportsmanship. The discussion transitions into the Finegan's current role in philanthropy, focusing on childhood cancer research and the importance of raising awareness and funds for better treatments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this episode World Cup winner Jeremy Paul names his 23 man Wallabies squad to face the Lions in the first test of the 2025 Series. Paul joins All Blacks legend Justin Marshall, Wallabies hopeful James O'Connor and Andy Rowe. O'Connor and Marshall also discus the latest Super Rugby news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Stephen Donald shares his journey from being a young rugby player at Wesley College to becoming a key figure in the 2011 World Cup. He discusses the challenges and experiences of transitioning to professional rugby, the influence of coaches like Ian Foster, and the importance of team bonding through court sessions. The conversation also touches on the unique experience of playing in South Africa and the camaraderie that exists among rugby players, regardless of nationality. Donald reflects on his time at Bath Rugby and the lessons learned throughout his career, emphasising resilience and growth in both sports and life. We reflect on his rugby career, discussing pivotal moments such as his decision to leave New Zealand, the pressures of performance and media scrutiny, his experience during the 2011 World Cup, and his transition into life after rugby, including his ventures in media and business. He also shares insights into the mental health challenges faced by athletes and the impact of public perception on their careers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Arguably the greatest Wallaby ever John Eales joins his former teammate Jeremy Paul, All Blacks legend Justin Marshall and Andy Rowe. We go deep into Eales' career, where he won two Rugby World Cups (one as captain), the Bledisloe Cup & Tri Nations. We also cover the some of the biggest moments within the biggest games he played in, including why he told the referee he was going to walk his team off the field during the Rugby World Cup final & of course, that kick to win the Bledisloe Cup in 2000. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Big Kev excited for this one!

Jul 4th
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