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The podcast for all things B2B SaaS marketing, brought to you by growth marketing agency, Advance B2B.

The Growth Hub Podcast is for SaaS marketers, CEOs and founders who want to level up their knowledge, skills, and wisdom on how to build a high-growth SaaS business.

With a mix of strategic frameworks, actionable insights, and inspiring tales, we catch up with some of the top minds in SaaS from across the world to gain their insight and advice on all things growth. Hosted by Edward Ford.
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Chris Walker is CEO at Refine Labs and in this episode we’re talking about Category Evangelism and the modern marketing playbook to grow pipeline and revenue. Chris has started a marketing revolution. He is host of the hugely popular Demand Gen Live series and the State of Demand Gen podcast. Forbes described him as “The B2B demand generation guru every Series C company should be listening to” and so we got Chris on the show to break down what B2B marketers should be doing to grow their companies and their careers. We cover: - The limitations of the traditional view of demand gen >> Why you shouldn’t centre on lead gen >> How to move away from demand capture to demand creation >> Where we went wrong with attribution - The modern playbook for successful demand gen >> How to know your customer better than anybody else >> How to win in dark social >> Why Category Evangelism is the future of marketing Links Claim your free SaaS marketing assessment from Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com/tgh Refine Labs >> https://www.refinelabs.com/ State of Demand Gen >> https://sptfy.com/6Nvh Mastery by Robert Greene >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13589182-mastery --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Kaylee Edmondson is Senior Director of Demand Gen at Chili Piper and in this episode we’re talking about the future of demand gen. Essentially this episode is lifting the lid on where the marketing playbook is going as Kaylee shares her thoughts on how B2B SaaS companies should be gearing up for the future, including: - What demand gen is and where it sits in the marketing funnel - The major issues with the old demand gen playbook - Why the future of demand gen sits in the dark funnel - The playbooks SaaS marketing teams should be running - How to get senior buy in for that kind of playbook - How the Chili Piper team does marketing and measures success - The skills marketers will need in the future Links Claim your free SaaS marketing assessment from Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com/tgh Chili Piper >> https://www.chilipiper.com Obviously Awesome by April Dunford >> https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/45166937-obviously-awesome --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Aggelos Mouzakitis is Growth Product Manager at Growth Sandwich, and in this episode we’re talking about how customer research can help B2B SaaS companies grow to their potential. We hear about various approaches to growth, such as product-led growth, sales-led growth, or marketing-led growth, but in this episode we look at it from another perspective, and that’s customer-led growth. Aggelos is an expert on customer research and advocate of customer-led growth, and in this episode he breaks down this methodology that puts the customer at the core of everything you do, including: - What being customer-led truly means - How customer-led growth helps marketers - How to use the jobs-to-be-done framework to support customer-led growth - The “value gap” issue in marketing - What it really means to have customer empathy as a marketer Links Claim your free SaaS marketing assessment from Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com/tgh Growth Sandwich >> https://www.growthsandwich.com/ What Customers Want by Anthony Ulwick >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/426683.What_Customers_Want --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Anna Holopainen is Head of Growth at Kide Science and in this episode she's talking about why your marketing isn't getting results. All marketing teams are focused on one main objective, growing the business, but instead of just looking at ways to grow the business, we need to invert the problem and look at what is stopping us from growing and why we're not getting results. In this episode, Anna joins us to share some of these reasons, including: - Typical growth and marketing related reasons why you're not getting results - Why you should never start to uncover growth blockers with a marketing audit - A simple 4-step process to identify what’s stopping you from growing - How to make sense of your data by putting it into context - How to identify growth opportunities if you don’t have access to enough data Links Claim your free SaaS marketing assessment from Advance B2B >> https://www.advanceb2b.com/tgh Kide Science >> https://www.kidescience.com/en SaaS Reads >> https://saasreads.com Thinking in Systems: A Primer by Donella Meadows >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3828902-thinking-in-systems --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Skyler Reeves is CEO & Founder at Ardent Growth, and in this episode we’re talking about why SaaS companies fail with content marketing. Almost all B2B SaaS companies will be doing content marketing in some form or another, but are you doing it the right way? In this episode, Skyler talks us through some of the pitfalls SaaS companies fall into when it comes to content, and what you should be doing instead. He covers: - The two primary factors that should dictate your content marketing strategy - How to set goals and measure the success of your content - How to prioritise topics in a search-led content strategy - How to acquire quality backlinks to your content - The importance of content refreshes and audits - How smaller B2B SaaS companies can catch up with established competitors Links Mindset by Carol Dweck >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40745.Mindset --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Margie Agin is Founder & Chief Strategist at Centerboard Marketing, and in this episode we’re talking about how to turn your brand strategy into tangible marketing tactics. We often hear about how important it is to build a brand in B2B SaaS, but how do you bridge the gap between your brand strategy and your marketing tactics? Well Margie tells us how as she covers: - How to accurately and consistently reflect a company's strategic brand positioning and voice - How to get your company bought in and aligned on brand - How to turn brand strategy into demand gen campaigns - How to modify your brand strategy as your company grows - Examples of B2B SaaS companies that do a great job of reflecting and amplifying their brand (and which companies miss the mark) Links Centerboard Marketing >> https://centerboard-marketing.com/ Brand Breakthrough >> https://centerboard-marketing.com/brand-breakthrough/ Winning The Story Wars >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13088627-winning-the-story-wars --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Caroline Guo is Head of Growth at HashiCorp and in this episode we’re talking about how to 2X pipeline and user acquisition in just 1.5 years. Caroline joined HashiCorp just over three years ago to build, hire, and lead the growth team, and in this episode she covers: - How HashiCorp has grown its growth team - How to build effective go to market models - How Caroline and her team built out HashiCorp’s entire SaaS business segment - How her team operates across the entire funnel from acquisition & activation to monetization & retention - The main factors that enabled their growth team to double pipeline and user acquisition - The importance of diversity within hiring, your team, and the workplace Links HashiCorp >>https://www.hashicorp.com/ Getting To Yes >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/313605.Getting_to_Yes --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Krista Martin is VP of Growth at Boardable and in this episode we’re talking about career acceleration and how to go from Marketing Manager to VP of Growth in just three years. Krista joined Boardable where she was able to align her professional and personal passions. Krista shares her journey of how she was able to grow her career so quickly, including: - How she leads growth at scale - How her growth team operates - What product-led growth at Boardable looks like - The qualities she looks for in people who are to join her team - How to actually make the move from mid-level manager to a VP or C-level role Links Boardable >> https://boardable.com/ Product-Led Onboarding >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58294382-product-led-onboarding --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Emily Kramer is Marketing Advisor, Angel Investor & Co-Founder at MKT1, and in this episode we’re talking about how to build and organise your early stage SaaS marketing org. Emily has built and scaled the marketing teams at Ticketfly, Asana, Carta, and Astro and in this episode she talks us through her framework for structuring your marketing team, including: - The roles you should hire first - Why you shouldn’t hire t-shaped marketers - How marketing teams should prioritise and focus - How much hierarchy you need in your marketing org - The story of how Emily built and structured Asana’s marketing team Links MKT1 >> https://www.mkt1.co/ High Growth Handbook by Elad Gil >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40536148-high-growth-handbook --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Hilary Kay is CMO at Wibbitz and in this episode we’re talking about how to evolve your marketing strategy from a sales-led enterprise model to a product-led hybrid model. This is a transition Wibbitz went through about 1.5 years ago and it’s something many SaaS companies are looking at today. In this episode, Hilary covers: - Why Wibbitz made the change - What some of the signs and indicators are that you should make this transition - The impact it has on understanding your target audience, customer lifecycle, and marketing tactics/channels you use - How it influences sales & marketing alignment, product & marketing alignment, and the marketing team’s structure - The things that shouldn't change when making this transition Links Wibbitz >> https://www.wibbitz.com/ Think Like A Monk by Jay Shetty >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51942513-think-like-a-monk OpenView Build >> https://podcast.openviewpartners.com/ --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Rudan Zhang is VP of Marketing at Clubhouse.io and in this episode we’re talking about how Clubhouse positioned themselves to focus on a niche segment. Clubhouse is a project management platform for modern software teams, but with so many project management tools on the market, Rudan discusses why Clubhouse decided to intentionally focus on a niche audience segment and how they did it. We cover: - The process Clubhouse used to find their points of differentiation for each of their ICPs - How they compete with well-known horizontal products - How to market to technical audiences - The marketing channels they use to reach their niche audience - How their marketing team is structured - The KPIs they use to measure success Links Clubhouse >> https://clubhouse.io/ Product-Led SEO by Eli Schwartz >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57659600-product-led-seo --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Mike McDerment is Co-Founder, former CEO, and Board Chair of FreshBooks, and in this episode we’re talking about how to not kill your SaaS business. Mike went from accidental founder to CEO of a SaaS company with over 24 million users and he’s learned a lot of lessons along the way having almost killed the business on multiple occasions. In this episode, Mike talks about: - How he accidentally founded a SaaS company - Why moving too fast almost killed FreshBooks early on - Why he underestimated word of mouth as a growth driver - Why raising at the wrong time can be very dangerous - The counter-intuitive idea of why Mike decided to start a direct competitor company to FreshBooks called BillSpring Links FreshBooks >> https://www.freshbooks.com/ The E-Myth by Michael Gerber >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/81942.E_Myth_Mastery --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Audrey Agahan is Content Marketing Strategist at Advance B2B and in this episode we’re talking about what the heck is growth marketing. Audrey introduces us to Advance B2B’s growth marketing formula that blends brand strategy with agile marketing operations, as well as: - The difference between growth marketing and traditional marketing - How growth marketing differs from growth hacking - The sprint-based agile operating model Advance B2B uses to run their growth marketing activities - A framework to prioritise growth ideas and experiments - How to use content marketing as a growth driver - How Audrey and Advance B2B worked with a client to achieve over 100% YoY growth - How to get started with growth marketing Links Advance B2B >> https://www.advanceb2b.com/ Product-Led Growth by Wes Bush >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46033247-product-led-growthT The Power of Vulnerability >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23500254-the-power-of-vulnerability --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Zandra Moore is CEO & Co-Founder at Panintelligence and in this episode we’re talking about how small SaaS companies can take on big competitor. Zandra discusses Panintelligence's David Vs Goliath story of how a SaaS underdog from a small city in northern England is competing against legacy BI heavyweights such as Google, Microsoft, and Salesforce. Zandra discusses the process of how they positioned themselves, identified points of differentiation, and built out their go-to-market strategy using Geoffrey Moore’s framework from Crossing The Chasm. We also hear how this translates into their marketing strategy, their marketing playbook, and how they compete with much smaller budgets than their competitors. Links Panintelligence >> https://www.panintelligence.com/ Crossing The Chasm >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61329.Crossing_the_Chasm Latka >> https://nathanlatka.com/podcast-thetop/ Winning By Design >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF7LXR8Pi5fr-N8OQ8XtP9g --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Stephanie Cox is VP of Sales & Marketing at Lumavate and in this episode we’re talking about why marketing should lead sales - as well as support, success, and product. Stephanie has a very unique role as a SaaS marketing leader since she also directly leads four other key departments and in this episode we hear: - Why she ended up taking such a broad role - The benefits of having marketing lead sales - What channels and tactics are working for the Lumavate marketing team - How all her teams work together - What her typical week looks like - How her teams move at a super fast pace and just get shit done Links Lumavate >> https://www.lumavate.com/ --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Derek O’Carroll is CEO of Brightpearl and in this episode we’re talking about their incredible SaaS turnaround story from near failure to +$15M ARR & +40% year-on-year growth. When Derek took over as CEO of Brightpearl, he described the company as a "distressed asset". It was burning cash, had very high churn, and a culture where talented people were rowing in different directions. Fast forward to today and Brightpearl is growing rapidly and Derek has masterminded a successful SaaS turnaround story. In this episode, Derek discusses: - Brightpearl's three-pronged turnaround strategy - How they realigned product-market fit - How they grew ACV - Building a talented team where the right people are in the right place - The impact the strategy has had - How Brightpearl reduced churn from 28% to below 8% Links Brightpearl >> https://www.brightpearl.com/ Escaping the Build Trap by Melissa Perri >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42611483-escaping-the-build-trap --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Rebecca Reynoso is Senior Content Editor & Guest Post Program Manager at G2 and in this episode we’re talking about how to *actually* run a successful guest post program. Rebecca manages G2’s editorial calendar for all guest article contributions, which combined have generated over 550K yearly website sessions, 80% of which are organic. In this episode, Rebecca discusses: - The value of guest posting - How to draft a thorough and clear set of guest post guidelines - What goes into strong guest posting editorial standards - The story of how G2’s guest post program has evolved over time - The results G2's guest post program has generated Links G2 Learning Hub >> https://learn.g2.com/ G2's guest post guidelines >> https://learn.g2.com/guest-post-guidelines Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6334.Never_Let_Me_Go --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Katheriin Liibert is Head of Marketing at Outfunnel and in this episode we’re talking about how to grow your SaaS business as a solo marketer. Katheriin joined Outfunnel as the first, and currently, only marketer in the company. With many SaaS marketers in a similar situation, how do you grow your SaaS business as a solo marketer? Katheriin shares her experience on what's worked for her, including: - how you should set expectations for marketing and work with your CEO & founders - why you should create a 100 day plan (but still get quick wins) - how to figure out which tactics and channels to focus on - how to work with freelancers and agencies - how to scale your team in future Links Outfunnel >> https://outfunnel.com/ Thinking, Fast And Slow by Daniel Kahneman >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11468377-thinking-fast-and-slow --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Asia Orangio is CEO & Founder at DemandMaven and Board Member at Moz. In this episode, we’re talking about a 5-step framework to create a B2B SaaS go-to-market strategy, including: - 1. Goals - 2. Product-Market-Model-Channel fit - 3. Defining your customer - 4. Success gaps - 5. Guiding principles - As well as practical examples of building go-to-market strategies Links DemandMaven >> https://demandmaven.io/ Strategy by HBR >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9612515-hbr-s-10-must-reads-on-strategy --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
Nick Harley is VP of Growth at Raygun and in this episode we’re talking about how Raygun bootstrapped their way to become a multi-million dollar SaaS business all the way from the remote location of New Zealand. Not all SaaS marketing teams have VC funding behind them so we caught up with Nick to hear how their small marketing team of four people helped Raygun bootstrap their growth. Nick discusses: - The challenges of working from a remote location like Wellington, NZ - How they make every penny count by measuring marketing performance with attribution models & LTV to CAC ratios - The channels working for the Raygun marketing team - Their current team set up - Whether you should hire generalists or specialists - The challenges of marketing to technical audiences Links Raygun >> https://raygun.com/ Radical Candor >> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29939161-radical-candor --- Advance B2B >> www.advanceb2b.com Follow The Growth Hub on Twitter >> twitter.com/SaaSGrowthHub Follow Edward on Twitter >> twitter.com/NordicEdward
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