The HC Commodities Podcast

Why don’t more energy & resource companies have trading arms? For that matter, why don’t more sectors trade? Chips, drugs even real estate? Why are CEOs reticent to set up trading platforms and what are the barriers to entry? What sectors would benefit most from trading? And more broadly, how have those firms who have launched trading arms in the energy and commodities trading sector fared over the last five years? How has this development both changed and shaped the opportunities out there? Our guest is Antti Belt, Partner at BCG, focused on commodities, and also a research fellow at the Henderson Institute. We are discussing his paper, alongside his colleagues, the hidden $3 trillion profit opportunity for CEOs, that by learning to think like traders and hedge funds, CEOs can tap value opportunities that are currently left on the table. To read the paper visit:https://www.bcg.com/publications/2025/hidden-3-trillion-profit-opportunity-for-ceos

In Part 2, Mark Crandall relives the events that led to the founding of Glencore and Trafigura. Why did Claude Dauphin go his separate way and what was the founding vision for Trafigura? How had Marc Rich already set the vision for the trading houses which would lead to their domination? How has that dominance led to almost insurmountable barriers to entry for aspiring competitors today? And what was it about these singular individuals that led to their success?

Our Global Our Middle & Back Office Salary Report 2025 is now available for purchase. Published by HC Group's Talent Intelligence team. the report covers salary benchmarks for Risk, Legal & Compliance, Corporate Finance (includes STF/Treasury), Finance & Accounting,Technology& Human Resources positions across all commodity trading hubs. The report, created using proprietary data, is designed for HR leaders and company officers to calibrate salaries in this competitive market as we head into business planning for 2026. For more information, visit https://www.hcgroup.global/energy-trading-report or email intelligence@hcgroup.global

Today, we're joined by Mark Crandall, one of the founding fathers of the modern trading house and the commodities sector as we know it today. Mark started his career at Morgan Stanley, where he helped launch its commodities desk, before joining Marc Rich & Co. Mark went on the have a pivotal role in, and ring-side seat to, the machinations that lead to the founding of Glencore and Trafigura. In Part 1, we cover his early career leading up to the famous split at Marc Rich & Co. We discuss the rise of the Wall Street Refiners and what made Marc Rich special and the company he founded shape the industry even today.

On October 1st, at HC Group’s Headquarters in London, host Paul Chapman interviewed Colin Bryce and Adi Imsirovic about their new book – Rivers of Money - in front of an invited audience of 100 friends, former colleagues and industry veterans. Why did they write the book, what stories and insights stand out and who received a pickled pig’s head at their desk (it later transpired the sender was in the audience)? Which other stories had to be left on the cutting room floor and what are the biggest risks the industry faces today and in the future? If you want to know about future events, sign up at https://www.hcgroup.global/newslettersignup

HC Groups’s Q3 Market Review is available to download here: https://www.hcgroup.global/insights/market-reviews/access-market-review-q3-2025400+ notable people moves. An editorial by podcast host Paul Chapman on US talent in turbulent year to date. Articles on APAC liquid fuel trends and how participants are recruiting and training Gen Z and much more.You can also download www.hyperionsearch.com Cleantech and renewables review here: https://interactive.hcgroup.global/hyperion-search-market-review-q3-2025/full-view.html

Today, we are joined by the award -winning author Mark Kurlansky, whose books such as The Big Oyster, Paper, Salt and Cod tell us how commodities have shaped history and in turn the present day. Why commodities sit at the very heart of human history creating cooperation, trade but also war. Mark shares his views on the books and how they fit in with the current world, his views and philosophy on free trade, and how that might be in jeopardy and what his future books porjects are.

The HC Commodities Podcast was invited to host a panel at the excellent Argus Global Markets Conference in London on September 30. We discussed how the commodities world is adapting trading strategies to markets now driven by Truths Socials, algorithmic sentiment, shifting geopolitics and increasing government intervention. A world where the fundamentals of supply and demand are only part of the picture. Is this new or just a reversion to a more normal world? Is it cyclical or structural? What does it mean for skillsets and participants? Our excellent panelists discuss: Saad Rahim, Chief Economist at Trafigura, David Fyfe, Chief Economist at Argus, Nick Kumleben of Greenmantle and Kurt Chapman, legendary oil trader and Director at Levmet.

What actually is systematic trading and the capabilities behind it? How can it generate returns? How can it inform the broader trading desks and organization's decision making? How is it delivering a competitive advantage and strategic edge to companies behind those returns? What have been the developments over the last couple of years? And how is such trading shaping the markets themselves? Our guest is Hans Balgobin, who has had a career as a systematic trader and building systematic trading platforms both in equities and energy, with the likes of HSBC, Shell and Millennium and is now joining Uniperin a systematic trading role. His views expressed herein represent his own and not those of any organization.

Recorded at the Canadian Crude Oil Conference in the wonderful Lake Louise in Canada on 17th September 2025, Randy Ollenberger of BMO Capital Markets, dives into global oil fundamentals, Canadian crude production in a changing world and what that means for oil and gas equities. Sanctions, tariffs, pipeline expansions and Canadian politicians (reacting to a very different relationship with the US meant) has led to profound changes and opportunities in this once quiet sector. Our sincere thanks to the Board of the CCOC (www.ccoconline.com) for the invitation, and in particular to Aarnoud van Weelderen for his support.To view BMO Financial Disclosures visit: https://research.bmo.com/public/disclosure_statements

In this episode, we tackle disputes, arbitration, and the challenges of navigating a fractious commodities world. Energy and natural resources have always sat at the heart of international transactions and, in today’s more volatile climate, disputes are arising more frequently. What happens in international contract disputes? What is international arbitration? And how can companies best mitigate the risks upfront? What are the most effective strategies for handling disputes and arbitrations once you are in them?Our guest is Alex de Gramont, Partner and Head of International Disputes at Womble Bond Dickinson, an international law firm with a strong focus on energy and natural resources. For more on Enco Insights and their expert witness offering, please visit: https://www.encoinsights.com/HC Commodities Podcast Live Event: Rivers of Money Book LaunchOn October 1, HC Group will welcome Colin Bryce and Adi Imsirovic, authors of The Rivers of Money, to our London office for an evening of networking, drinks, and a special live recording of the HC Commodities Podcast. Tickets are free, but spaces are limited. Register here: https://www.eventcreate.com/e/rivers-of-money-event

As we enter the planning season, we consider why business planning in the commodity sector is so challenging. And how uncertainty and a more volatile world has made it even more so? What can organizations do to build in resiliency and flexibility into planning and what tools are available to better manage the downsides and also capture opportunities? Our guest is Savvas Manousos. Savas has spent a long career building and running trading platforms and is now a partner at Enco Insights, a global advisory network dedicated to energy and commodities. As an Enco Insight Partner, Savas and his colleagues are supporting Corporates and Strategics around the world, build, develop and implement plans big and small to meet the challenges of the commodity sector today. Enco Insights provides senior energy & natural resources advisors for short to long -term engagements to the private equity world, the legal world and of course corporates when the stakes are high and the insight matters.Visit www.encoinsights.com for more on their offering

Today, we return to the subject of investing in the global commodities markets. What are the key narratives out there on Main Street, Wall street and K Street and how are they shaping opportunities? How can you sort narrative from thesis? How does policy volatility and geopolitical volatility impact investments? And in a potential return to 1970s -style stagflation, what does that mean for commodities and portfolio theory? Our guest is Shaia Hosseinzadeh, Founder and Chief Investment officer of OnyxPoint Global Management LP, an alternative asset manager focused on businesses serving the commodities sector.For more on OnyxPoint visit: https://www.onyxpointglobal.com/our-firmFor the Argus Global Markets Conference sign up here: https://www.argusmedia.com/en/events/conferences/global-markets-conference

Colin Bryce joins us to discuss ‘The Rivers of Money: Social and Economic History of Modern Oil Trading’, which he co-authored with Adi Imsirovic. Both authors participated in oil trading during its pivotal years and through knowledge of the industry, experience and contacts bring to life this period in rich detail creating a unique book, blending reportage and economic history. Why did London become the epicenter of physical oil trading? Why did Wall St look so different? Why did Singapore become the Asia hub of commodities? What are the origins of the trading houses and how did they come to dominate the sector? This book should be on the shelf of any commodity professional. Rich in anecdotes, characters and rooted in the heart of world history over the last 50 years, the book is both enjoyable and important. You can buy the book here: https://a.co/d/8oiMuWS

Today, we discuss three critical minerals to illustrate, and challenge or reinforce the common narratives out there, the intractable problems those supply chains face - even with projected soaring future demand. And consequently, the influence these elements have on geopolitics and economics. Influence that is only growing. We're talking Yttrium, Rhenium and Graphite and each one tells a different story about our modern economy about the critical mineral supply chain and pricing and some of that challenges that poses to governments, companies and us as individuals. To tell those stories we are rejoined by Ellie Saklatvala, Head of Metals Pricing at the Independent Price Reporting Agency, Argus. 

Today, we're joined by Doomberg, the most popular energy and commodity focused sub-stack. He and his team publish over 90 articles a year on the intersection of global energy and commodity policy, geopolitics, risk and technology. Today, it's Doomberg unleashed. How close are we to World War III? Are we already in it? What does that mean for the energy and commodity supply chains. How sanctions and tariffs not only reshape global commodity flows, but also weaken the West, and what the “One Big Beautiful Bill” means for American industry and the energy transition, and much more. Always a challenging and fascinating discussion. 

Chip War: How semiconductors became the new oil with Chris Miller Semi-conductors, microchips, are the new oil - the scarce resource on which the modern world depends. Today, military, economic, and geopolitical power are built on a foundation of computer chips. This has only accelerated with the emergence of AI. Yet, the supply chain is incredibly concentrated with just a handful of countries and companies dominating. As with oil in the previous century, chips sit at the center of geopolitics, great-power rivalry and trade, especially between the US and China. How did chips become some crucial and their supply chains so concentrated and what does it mean for all our futures? Our guest is economic historian Chris Miller, author of Chip War - The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology, the New York Times best seller.

Today, we do a deep dive into the role and challenges of a transaction lawyer in the energy transition. And why lawyering in the energy transition is lawyering on hard mode? What are the  sources of complexity? What are the pain points about getting a project developed? How has current policy volatility impacted the energy transition particularly in the US? And what might the future hold? Our guest is Daniel Anziska.Daniel is an infrastructure and regulatory lawyer and partner at Troutman Pepper Locke ,a leading US energy transition infrastructure law firm. 

Today, we investigate the intersection of the energy transition, critical minerals and defense. As with commodities, warfare is also going through rapid and profound change, with the electrification of defense over the last 20 year. Batteries proliferate the battlefield and the energy transition is impacting national security. We are seeing the shift from capital assets to small, cheap weapons such as drones that can have profound impacts. This poses a particular problem for the US, where energy dominance has been based in hydrocarbons along with their warfare fighting capabilities. Now in an electrified battlefront, supply chains that support them sit in China, threatening the West's defence capabilities. Our guest is Joe Bryan, principal at Muswell Orange, a boutique consulting firm, focused on energy and particularly its intersection with national security. Before his return to the private sector, Joe was a senior advisor to the Secretary of Defense and was the Department sector, of Defense Chief Sustainability Officer. He previously served as Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Navy for Energy, where he was responsible for policies relating to the Department's installation and operational energy programs. Earlier in his career, Joe led investigations for the Senate Armed Services Committee and served on both Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence and the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He has consulted on energy policy around the world and began his Investigations. He has consulted on energy policy around the world and began his career working on electricity restructuring and state level policies to encourage growth of clean energy markets.

In this episode, we discuss the impact of conflict and war on commodities markets through the lens of a brand new book by Dennis Voznesenski: War and Wheat. Dennis is an agricultural economist at the Commonwealth Bank of Australia and prior to that at Rabobank. Thoroughly researched, War and Wheat tells the story of how the agricultural markets fared during World War I, World War II and the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine and elucidates key learnings on how commodity markets function and how commodity traders can better navigate the more volatile times ahead.  The book is available here: https://www.amazon.com.au/War-Wheat-Navigating-markets-conflict/dp/1763580938