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There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth.
The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative.
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew.
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning.
This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between.
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The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative.
Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew.
Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning.
This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between.
Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink
Follow The In Between Podcast at:
IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial
FB: @TheInBetweenPod
Bluesky: @inbetweenpod
TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc
Web: inbetweenpod.com
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Mel + Rebecca discuss the massive filing from Karen Read in the O'Keefe v Karen Read civil suit. This filing shows us a new strategy focused on Brian Tully being more than a passive player in the coverup. David Yanetti dropped some news re: Colin Albert on the Turtleboy fundraiser we can't wait to discuss!Plus we'll discuss the ARCCA Report that came to us from the latest FOIA Dump on the FOIA Around and Find Out site. If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us or grab something off the wishlists:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 Mel's wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/26HSLOLDUQP0?ref_=wl_shareRebecca's wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/10V927MJX225T?ref_=wl_shareYou can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers PLUS you'll get access to weekly Member's Only videos, as well as AMAs and AD FREE videos (at the AYFKM tier) Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Mel makes her triumphant return to hear about what she missed. Plus, we talk about the Kouri Richins sentencing hearing, the cancelation of Aidan Kearney's big motion to dismiss hearing, and some events that have unfolded on the unholy website called X.
Emily See joins Rebecca to talk about her FOIA journey and the (very dumb) discourse around crowdfunding for public records.
Rebecca is joined by Bethany Na, a long-time listener and good friend to the podcast who just happens to know a whole lot about civil litigation.
Rebecca is joined by Aussie podcaster Sarah Carradine to talk about the latest disclosure drops in the Karen Read case as well as some true crime news from her neck of the woods.
Mel's on vacation, so Rebecca is joined by the pod's favorite person to objectify...Kevin Flynn!
There's a defamation lawsuit that claims Aidan Kearney learned all about the Karen Read case from Karen Read. That's not true, and we explain how we know that. PLUS - Mel talks about what she finds interesting in Michael Easter's report. AND we watch some vintage videos again just for fun! 0:00 Intro, Housekeeping, + Welcome New Viewers! (plus some notes on how YouTubers are not grifters) 25:54 The filing that started it all + Discussion (the thing that sparked TurtleBoy’s interest) 1:00:21 Why did they muck up the process so much? 1:09:07 The importance of Michael Easter’s Report 1:28:57 Rebecca Needs Water + A Special Video 1:33:44 Back to Michael Easter 1:58:44 Phone calls with Dever + Closing Thoughts
Mel + Rebecca breakdown every footnote in the defamation suit brought by Jen McCabe, Brian Albert, Brian Higgins, and Colin Albert against Karen Read and Aidan Kearney.We're starting with Footnotes 2,3, and 6.
Rebecca may have solved the case of John O'Keefe's murder btw. You might want to tune in. (Rebecca doesn't agree with this characterization, btw.)If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers PLUS you'll get access to weekly Member's Only videos, as well as AMAs and AD FREE videos (at the AYFKM tier) Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
A whole new load of FOIA'd docs just dumped regarding reports/correspondence at the NCDAO's office. Mel + Rebecca pick apart some of the most incendiary among them. If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers PLUS you'll get access to weekly Member's Only videos, as well as AMAs and AD FREE videos (at the AYFKM tier) Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Join Mel + Rebecca on our regular stream to discuss the new filing in the Sandra Birchmore case...and why Michael Morrissey hasn't charged Matthew Farwell in Sandra's můrder.Plus, there was a hearing featuring Karen Read's team today!If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Mel and Rebecca break down the newest lawsuit in the Karen Read saga. This time Brian Albert, Jen McCabe, Colin Albert, and Brian Higgins sue Turtleboy and Karen Read for a "coordinated" campaign of defamation. But can they prove their claims?If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Join Mel + Rebecca with special guest, Broken Baker, to break down wtf actually happened in that courtroom.If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Join Mel and Rebecca as they break down ALL the news in Karen Read adjacent world PLUS Rebecca breaks down a famous New Hampshire case, where Logan Clegg unalived the Reids. A lot of stuff happened this week in the civil cases, including Michael Proctor's formal denial of allegations, the release of the Fanning IA interview about the boys in blue showing up at Proctor's house directly after he testified in front of the Federal Grand Jury, laborious status hearings, AND Brian Tully officially "retires."Let's get into it!If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
Join Mel + Rebecca for a very special stream with Aidan Kearney. No holds barred here. Come with your questions and an open mind.If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
*NOTE: The live with Aidan Kearney is being rescheduled due to scheduling conflicts. We're looking at Thursday and will update as soon as we have a solid date and timeFor today's show: join Mel and Rebecca for a reviewthe new filing in the Kelsey Fitzsimmons Family + Probate casePLUS Leticia Stauch conviction overturned!If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipspaypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11 You can now join the YouTube channel! When you become a member Rebecca will send you free stickers! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!
The paper trail is finally catching up. This week on The In Between, Mel Barrett dives into the explosive 2026 unsealed Department of Justice files regarding Jeffrey Epstein—and the massive political cover-up that just cost the Attorney General her job.Mel breaks down the chilling new evidence against the MCC guards on duty the night Epstein died, including a suspicious $5,000 cash deposit and the new survivor-led civil suit that has forced them back under oath. Then, we tackle the "PROTECT SOURCE" files—the horrifying 1983 FBI tip regarding the 47th President that the DOJ tried to bury. Finally, we head to New Mexico, where a newly formed Truth Commission armed with subpoena power is taking aim at the federal government's shocking failure to search the 7,600-acre Zorro Ranch.The enablers thought his death meant their secrets were safe. They were wrong.Timestamps:
[0:00] Intro: The Inkling of a Fire
[2:30] Part 1: The Cell, The Guards, and The $5,000 Deposit
[12:15] The Civil Suit: Tova Noel is Dragged Back Under Oath
[16:40] Part 2: The Motive & The DOJ Transparency Meltdown
[22:05] The "Protect Source": The 1983 Hilton Head Tip & The Public Record
[33:20] Part 3: Zorro Ranch and the 2019 Federal Stand-Down
[39:45] New Mexico Fights Back: Boots on the Ground & The Truth Commission
[43:30] Outro & Where to find this week's live streams
Mentioned in this Episode:
Read Julie K. Brown's latest reporting on the DOJ cover-up: [Link to Substack]
The Post and Courier's investigation into the Hilton Head FBI tip: [Link to Article]
If you want to watch the Impact x Nightline episode that Mel is featured in about Pamela Smart's new legal fight, watch it here: https://www.hulu.com/series/98fb0a9b-...If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips paypal: paypal.me/MelBarrett11Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow @reblavoie on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!







