Cameron Bishop is a seasoned executive and entrepreneur with decades of experience leading growth and transformation. He is a Managing Director and Partner at Raincatcher, a FINRA-compliant investment bank specializing in the sale of privately held companies. With over 70 M&A transactions completed as both buyer and seller, Cameron brings unmatched expertise in guiding business owners through the complex process of maximizing value in a sale. Previously, he served as CEO of Intertec Publishing, scaling it into a $400 million enterprise, and co-founded Ascend Media, a PE-backed startup that grew to $120 million in just three years.In this episode, Steve and Cameron discuss:Cameron’s journey from journalism student to serial entrepreneurHow one failed acquisition shaped his leadership approachThe role of servant leadership and listening in building strong teamsAdapting leadership styles to motivate diverse teamsThe value of lifelong learning and reinventionKey Takeaways: Failure is often the best teacher. The lessons gained from setbacks can shape resilience, sharpen decision-making, and influence leadership style far more deeply than success ever could.People matter more than processes. True business success comes from understanding, motivating, and valuing individuals, not just checking boxes on technical diligence.Servant leadership is about humility. By hiring people smarter than themselves, listening to their insights, and adjusting when necessary, leaders unlock greater wisdom than they could achieve alone.Motivation is never universal. Every person is driven by something different, and leaders who take time to uncover those drivers can inspire their teams to perform at the highest level.Lifelong learning fuels reinvention. Staying curious, adaptable, and willing to evolve ensures both leaders and their organizations remain relevant and thriving in a changing world.“My goal is always to be the dumbest person in the room. I loved hiring smart people. I never tried to hire people in my own image, which so many senior-level people do. I wanted a very eclectic mix of senior-level executives and employees in general. For that matter, they came from different experiences and different walks of life, because they all add a different kind of value, and the sum of the parts is greater. You know, one plus one equals three is what you get out of that.” - Cameron BishopConnect with Cameron Bishop:Website: https://raincatcher.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-bishop-19b6804/ Email: cameron.bishop@raincatcher.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Patrick Palmer has 30 years of experience in the mortgage banking industry, developing retail origination sales, marketing, and operational platforms. Patrick currently serves as Executive Vice President with CrossCountry Mortgage, LLC. Prior to joining CrossCountry, Patrick was the President of National Sales for RPM Mortgage and Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Alpine Mortgage Planning in Lake Oswego, Oregon. He has spent his career helping hungry, humble, smart originators crush their barriers and scale their business to new heights.Patrick attended Western Oregon University and George Fox University, where he received his bachelor’s degree in business and economics and his MBA with a focus in Finance. Patrick is the former Chairman of the Western Oregon University Foundation board of directors and serves many local charities.In this episode, Steve and Patrick discuss:The impact of mentorship and having guides who shorten the learning curveWhy emotional intelligence is essential for leadership and how it can be developedThe role of failure as a requirement—not an option—for growth and leadershipHow fear of permanence and abandonment blocks trying new thingsThe importance of shared vision and values in building effective teamsKey Takeaways: True mentorship thrives on availability, willingness, and skill. Great mentors provide guidance freely, without expectation of return, and their generosity can change the entire trajectory of someone’s career.Emotional intelligence and empathy are not fixed traits. They can be developed and strengthened through practice, self-awareness, and intentional learning over time.Failure is not the end but a stepping stone. When reframed as part of growth, mistakes become powerful lessons that accelerate leadership and personal development.Fear often spirals into catastrophic thinking. Leaders who recognize this can reframe mistakes as temporary setbacks, helping themselves and others move forward with clarity.Shared vision and values unify teams. When leaders create alignment, they unlock collective energy and purpose that drives long-term success.“The thing you have to get your mind around first is that failure is not final. Human mistakes, if I made a mistake, that doesn't define me for the rest of my life. Get up, brush yourself off, move on. There's no finality to it until our lives are over.” - Patrick PalmerConnect with Patrick Palmer:Website: https://crosscountrymortgage.com/lake-oswego-or-5403/patrick-palmer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickrpalmer/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Donna Wright brings over 30 years of leadership experience in the mortgage industry, having held senior roles at top financial institutions, including Wells Fargo and Bank of America. She began her career as an originator and rose to become a regional sales manager and national production manager, where she built a reputation for recruiting, motivating, and coaching high-performing teams. Known for driving revenue, building markets, and enhancing profitability, Donna has led organizations ranging from Fortune 500 companies to entrepreneurial ventures. With expertise in Six Sigma, start-up growth, and franchising, she is both a seasoned sales executive and successful business owner. Donna holds a BA in Economics from the University of Dallas and currently resides in Austin.In this episode, Steve and Donna discuss:How mindset drives resilience and success in tough timesThe value of learning something new every day about people, business, and yourselfWhy surrounding yourself with the right people can shift your outlook and energyThe value of transparency and honesty in leadership and relationshipsHow working with a coach can accelerate growth and keep you accountableKey Takeaways: Mindset is more than actions—it reflects who you choose to be when adversity strikes, shaping both resilience and long-term success.Embracing the idea of being “so wrong for so long” opens the door to fresh perspectives and lasting growth.Even small acts of daily learning create momentum; over time, they keep you sharp, adaptable, and ready for change.Surrounding yourself with people who lift you higher is essential because their energy and encouragement can break negative cycles.A coach doesn’t just guide you—they challenge your blind spots and hold you accountable, helping you reach levels you couldn’t achieve alone.“The most important thing that any of us could focus on is mindset and what we do to set our minds right, because if our mind's not right, the rest isn't really right.” - Donna WrightConnect with Donna Wright:Website: https://republicstatemortgage.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-wright-4b59827/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/donna.m.wright.37/ Email: dwright@rsmc.net Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Andrzej Cetnarski is an award-winning cyber governance, national security, and corporate strategist, named CEO of the Year by CEO Monthly Magazine. He is the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Cyber Nation Central®, a global cybersecurity protocol and advisory firm for Boards and C-Suites, and Chairman of the CNCDO™ Network. A former U.S. Congressional staffer, Forbes Contributor, and Wall Street banker with over $7B in closed deals, he also serves on the Cyber Defense Advisory Council and the Global Tech Security Commission. Andrzej holds degrees from Harvard, Wharton, Penn, and the University of Chicago, and is the author of The CEO & Board Chair Cyber Manuscript, advancing executive-level cyber readiness worldwide.In this episode, Steve and Andrzej discuss:How resilience and mindset shaped Andrzej’s path from immigrant to cybersecurity leaderWhy cybersecurity is more about culture and behavior than technologyThe fiduciary responsibility of boards and executives across physical, digital, and cyber domainsThe $5.8 trillion gap between cybercrime and security solutions and its impact on businessStrategies for maintaining optimism and leadership in a high-stakes security worldKey Takeaways: Cybersecurity is no longer just an IT problem—it’s rooted in culture, behavior, and leadership. True protection begins when executives set the tone and drive a company-wide mindset of security.Boards and executives may not realize it, but they already hold fiduciary responsibility for cyber readiness. Ignoring this duty exposes both their organizations and their personal legacies to unnecessary risk.With cybercrime revenues projected to soar past defenses, companies cannot afford to be passive. Proactive deterrence and resilience must be treated as strategic priorities for survival.Thriving in today’s volatile world requires more than technical skill. Entrepreneurs and leaders need resilience, disciplined routines, and strong mindsets to lead effectively under constant pressure.The future of cybersecurity lies in sovereignty—whether for individuals, businesses, or entire nations. Achieving this digital self-defense is the only path to lasting protection in an interconnected world.“Whether you're an investor, a board director, an entrepreneur, or simply an executive, in a venture or in a corporation, you have a fiduciary responsibility now already existing over three organizations, the physical, digital, and the cyber secure.” - Andrzej CetnarskiConnect with Andrzej Cetnarski:Website: https://cybernationcentral.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrzejcetnarski/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ACetnarski Email: enquiry@cybernationcentral.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Rose Marie David is a seasoned mortgage industry leader with nearly 40 years of experience, recognized for building high-performing teams and driving extraordinary growth. She began her career as an underwriter and rose to become a broker/owner, top producer, and executive director, consistently closing over $100 million annually. Transitioning to executive leadership in 2010, she helped HomeStreet Bank achieve 400% organic growth and led Homebridge Financial Services through an acquisition with a 98% retention rate. Today, as Retail Sales Executive for CMG in the West, she has added $2B+ in annual volume and helped secure CMG’s #6 national ranking. A HousingWire Vanguard Award winner, she also serves as Chair of the Washington Mortgage Bankers Association.In this episode, Steve and Rose Marie discuss:The role of gratitude and meditation in shaping leadership and daily focusHer personal journey from professional ballet training to mortgage bankingLeadership lessons from decades of experience and industry changeHow authenticity, abundance, and detachment fuel effective leadershipGuidance for newcomers: coaching, systems, and genuine careKey Takeaways: Starting the day with gratitude and meditation isn’t just a habit—it sets the tone for clarity, peace, and better choices throughout the day. Rose Marie shows how small practices can transform leadership presence.Her years of ballet training demanded discipline and rigor, and those traits later became the backbone of her resilience and success in finance and leadership.Trust and loyalty don’t come from titles; they come from authenticity and leading with an abundant mindset. Rose Marie’s career reflects how this approach inspires long-term followings.Success in mortgage banking is both an art and a science. Empathy and care matter just as much as technical knowledge and strong systems, and together they create consistent excellence.For those starting in the business, prioritizing learning, emotional intelligence, and genuine care for people is non-negotiable. These qualities separate the good from the great in this industry.“When we are authentic about what we're doing and really there to serve and make a difference for people without any type of agenda or expectation… I really always felt first and foremost, what was important was to just be true to myself and my team and the people that I'm serving.” - Rose Marie DavidMentioned:Books: Teach Your Mind to Change Your Brain by Sharon Begley Altered Traits by Daniel GolemanRichard Rohr: The Center for Action and ContemplationConnect with Rose Marie David:Website: https://www.cmgfi.com/mysite/rose-marie-david/blog LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rose-marie-david-66b21018/ Email: rdavid@cmghomeloans.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Steve Multer is the founder of Steve Multer. Corporate Storytelling, a strategic brand messaging partner for Fortune and midsize organizations to maximize their connection with customers, partners, and media analysts. As a spokesman and keynote thought leader, Steve has crafted and delivered over 20,000 onstage and onscreen presentations for more than 150 global brands, including Cisco, Fujifilm, Siemens, HP, Panasonic, Bayer, Intel, and NTT Data.He trains global C-suites and sales teams in winning communication methodologies, and he’s coached thousands of executive and industry speakers to increase impact through value, passion, and human connection. Steve's new book is ‘Nothing Gets Sold Until the Story Gets Told.’In this episode, Jason and Steve discuss:Evolution of corporate storytelling: from 1990s trade shows to today’s Fortune 500 strategiesBuilding audience connection on a human-first level before introducing products or servicesCommon brand storytelling mistakes and practical ways to correct themThe balance between passion, profitability, and knowing when to pivotCommunication frameworks like the Flow of Content Hierarchy and the COACH StateKey Takeaways: The most powerful business storytelling weaves together facts and human emotion, creating narratives that feel both credible and personal. When people can see themselves in your story, they are more likely to engage and trust your brand.Too often, companies begin with a product pitch or corporate message, missing the chance to first connect on a human level. Leading with empathy and understanding opens the door for your audience to actually hear your message.For startups, passion and storytelling fuel momentum, yet lasting success depends on reading the market and adjusting when necessary. Adaptability ensures the story continues to resonate as the business grows.Failure is not the end of the journey—it can be the reset button that clears away clutter and sparks stronger ideas. Each setback sharpens your ability to tell stories that connect more deeply.True communication thrives on authenticity and service. When leaders genuinely focus on serving others, business growth naturally follows as a byproduct of trust and connection.“Trust yourself to tell a value story for the benefit of other people, and the minute you start doing it, you’ll be amazed at how much clearer and how much more formidable, solid, and successful your daily engagements and communications become, both personally and professionally.” - Steve MulterSteve's 5 Paths to Passionate Storytelling FREE eGuide - Password: soldtold23Connect with Steve Multer:Websites: https://corporatestorytelling.com/ , https://stevemulter.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemulter/ Email: steve@stevemulter.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Are you prepared to lead with confidence when disruption strikes? In this episode, we share practical strategies for building leaders who can thrive in uncertain times. We explore why disruption is not a sign of failure, how vision and values provide stability, and the critical role of emotional intelligence in navigating change. You’ll also hear why creating safe opportunities for leaders to fail early builds resilience for high-pressure moments later. Whether you’re guiding a small team or an entire organization, this conversation delivers powerful insights to help you transform disruption into growth.In this episode, Steve and Steve discuss:The reality of disruption in today’s organizations and why it’s unavoidableHow dysfunctional communication and anxiety emerge during times of disruptionThe importance of returning to vision and values to guide teamsWhy developing emotional intelligence early prepares leaders for challengesPractical strategies for giving leaders agency and opportunities to growKey Takeaways: Disruption should never be viewed as failure; it’s an inevitable part of business evolution, and organizations that acknowledge this reality are better positioned to adapt.When turbulence hits, leaders must rally their teams around a clear vision and core values, creating a stabilizing force that keeps everyone moving in the same direction.Poor communication and unmet expectations are common byproducts of disruption, and if left unchecked, they quickly snowball into organizational dysfunction.Emotional intelligence isn’t built overnight—leaders who cultivate it ahead of time are far more equipped to navigate uncertainty with calm and clarity.Allowing leaders to experiment and even fail in low-stakes environments early on fosters resilience, making them stronger and more confident when high-pressure challenges arrive.“There's nothing wrong with you. You are going through a disruption. Your organization going through a disruption does not mean, in and of itself, that you have done anything wrong as a leader in your organization. That's the nature of doing business in 2025 in the world. Disruption happens, and that's why some organizations they'd rather be the disruptor than the disruptee. And that has its own problems, but you're going to be on either side of that equation. So that's just a natural byproduct of doing work in the world.” - Steve LonganConnect with Steve and Steve:LinkedIn: Steve or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Dr. Emma Sarro is a researcher at the NeuroLeadership Institute, where she translates cognitive and social neuroscience into practical strategies that help organizations improve leadership, collaboration, and innovation. Formerly a professor at Dominican College and New York University, she also conducted research at the Nathan Kline Institute. She earned her bachelor’s from Brown University and her PhD in neuroscience from NYU, focusing on sensory processing, brain plasticity, and the effects of early life trauma. At NLI, her work highlights how understanding and working within the brain’s capacity—while challenging it in the right ways—can boost creativity, trust, and team performance, all while reducing social threat responses and fostering meaningful growth.In this episode, Steve and Dr. Emma discuss:The link between a growth mindset and improved performanceHow the brain’s plasticity fuels learning, adaptability, and resiliencePractical strategies for fostering a growth-oriented environment in organizationsWhy moments of stillness and mind-wandering boost innovation and insightThe impact of stress and cortisol on creativity, decision-making, and brain healthKey Takeaways: Adopting a growth mindset actively redirects your brain’s resources toward setting and achieving goals, while easing the grip of fear-based, threat-focused thinking. This mental shift opens the door to greater creativity and resilience.Respecting your cognitive capacity isn’t just about avoiding overload—it’s about optimizing brain performance. Protecting your mental bandwidth helps you make sharper, more strategic decisions.Mind-wandering is a powerful tool for innovation. Stepping away from intense focus allows your brain to form new connections and unlock fresh, unexpected ideas.Chronic stress and prolonged cortisol levels act like roadblocks to creativity and problem-solving. Leaders who learn to manage stress effectively safeguard both their health and their innovative potential.Small, intentional changes—like adding the word “yet” to reframe challenges or regularly reflecting on mistakes—can gradually transform your mindset. These micro-adjustments often lead to long-term performance gains.“Accepting that you can change and accepting that you can improve is completely different from accepting that you are, that you have a certain skill, and that whatever you put out is the best that you can do.” - Dr. Emma SarroConnect with Dr. Emma Sarro:Website: https://neuroleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-sarro-phd-in-neuroscience-4766784/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Beckie Moore is the Founder of Unlocked & Unlimited and an Executive Coach & Life Alchemist who specializes in 1:1 coaching for senior and mid-level leaders. A Professional Certified Coach (PCC) through the International Coaching Federation (ICF), Beckie brings seven years of coaching experience and over two decades of leadership across the Department of Defense, private sector, and active-duty military service. Her powerful toolkit includes certifications in the Hogan Assessment System, Integrative Enneagram Solutions iEQ9, EQ-i, and Corentus Team Coaching—equipping her to unlock leadership potential through deep analytical insight and transformative coaching methodologies. In addition to her own business, Beckie is also an executive coach for Rewire.In this episode, Jason and Beckie discuss:Defining a Life Alchemist and improving environments through intentionApplying the Three Centers of Intelligence: head, heart, and gutHow internal vs. external processing styles impact leadership and team dynamicsCommon leadership blind spots and how self-awareness enhances effectivenessReal-life examples from her coaching work with the Department of Defense and corporate leadersKey Takeaways: Self-awareness lays the groundwork for effective leadership, but it’s only half the equation. True impact comes when leaders also seek to understand how others think, feel, and operate.Many leaders instinctively lean on one primary intelligence center—head, heart, or gut. When the other two are neglected, it can create blind spots that weaken team trust and collaboration.Internal processors may appear hesitant, while external processors may dominate with rapid thoughts. Recognizing these styles—and naming them—helps teams align expectations and avoid miscommunication.Over-reliance on a single intelligence center creates imbalance: the analytical may seem cold, the empath may fear confrontation, and the instinctive may act prematurely. Balance requires awareness and intentional adaptation.Sometimes, the most powerful coaching move is to say nothing at all. Holding space with quiet presence can unlock clarity that words might otherwise crowd out.“When you understand how you process information, you can give yourself the tools that you need in order to be the best that you can be.” - Beckie MooreConnect with Beckie Moore:Website: https://www.unlockedandunlimited.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beckie-moore/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
K’Lee Terrazas is the co-founder of Legal Lead Sharks, a performance-driven Google Ads agency helping law firms dominate their local markets. She’s also the creator of Intake EQ, an AI-powered voice agent system built on the belief that every missed call is a missed opportunity. With a sharp focus on ROI, lead conversion, and client acquisition strategy, K’Lee blends cutting-edge technology with marketing expertise to help law firms scale smarter, not harder.In this episode, Jason and K’Lee discuss:The bold decision to niche down and focus solely on law firmsThe creation of Intake EQ to solve a costly, overlooked intake problemHow AI voice agents outperform humans in lead capture and customer experienceThe importance of eliminating tasks and staying in your “zone of excellence”Book recommendations that shaped K’Lee’s leadership and business strategiesKey Takeaways: Niching down isn't just smart—it’s strategic. By serving one industry deeply, you establish credibility, build expertise faster, and become the go-to solution provider they trust.Intake EQ emerged as a response to a costly blind spot. In a field where a single missed call can mean losing a million-dollar case, automating that first point of contact is critical.Properly trained AI voice agents are no longer a novelty—they’re a competitive advantage. These systems can mimic human tone, pivot smoothly during conversations, and outperform most human staff in speed and accuracy.You don’t scale a business by doing more—you scale by doing less of the wrong things. Delegating low-ROI tasks and eliminating time-wasters allow leaders to focus on vision, growth, and innovation.Real growth comes from mastering your zone of excellence. Instead of trying to juggle everything, build a support system that lets you double down on what only you can uniquely deliver.“You are your brand, and showing up matters because people don't do business with your name or your logo—they do business with you. And so, in 2025, I stepped out from behind the curtains and started putting myself out there, like I tell my clients to do.” - K’Lee TerrazasConnect with K’Lee Terrazas:Websites: https://legalleadsharks.com/ , https://intake-eq.com/ , https://paylynxglobal.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/k-lee-terrazas-9366b31b4/ Email: info@legalleadsharks.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Patrick Ungashick brings over 30 years of experience helping business owners and leadership teams maximize company value. He is the CEO of NAVIX Consultants, an exit strategy firm that has guided more than 500 owners through successful exits. Patrick is also a partner in three other ventures spanning private equity, investment banking, and wealth management.In this episode, Jason and Patrick discuss:How leadership lessons from D-Day apply to today’s business challengesWhy company culture is the starting point for organizational successCommon pitfalls business owners face when planning their exitsThe importance of building a great team before building a great companyHow leaders can leverage AI and technology without fearKey Takeaways: Historical events like D-Day offer more than just stories—they reveal enduring truths about leadership under pressure. When applied to today’s business environment, these lessons can guide leaders through complex challenges with clarity and purpose.Strong companies don’t build strong teams—the reverse is true. Exceptional leaders know that investing in people first sets the foundation for long-term success.Exit planning isn’t just for the end—it's a strategic mindset that should begin early. Waiting too long can limit your options and reduce the value you've built.A business that relies entirely on its owner is a fragile one. True sustainability comes when systems and teams can operate smoothly without constant owner involvement.Rather than fearing disruption, top leaders lean into it. They treat tools like AI and emerging technologies as allies, using them to sharpen strategy and strengthen team performance, even amid market noise.“I think we’re unknowingly, unintentionally, accidentally misinformed about what it means to be an effective leader. Many of us believe our job is to build a great company—but that’s a mistake. The real job of a great leader is to build a great team, and the great team builds the great company.” - Patrick UngashickConnect with Patrick Ungashick:Website: https://www.patrickungashick.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickungashick/ Patrick’s Books: https://www.patrickungashick.com/#books Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Chris Prefontaine is the Chairman and Founder of Smart Real Estate Coach®, a 4x best-selling author, podcast host, and 3-time Inc. 5000 honoree. Through his Wicked Smart® Community, he’s helped investors across North America close hundreds of real estate deals — all without using their cash or credit. After weathering 9/11, the 2008 crash, and COVID, Chris rebuilt a resilient business model built to thrive in any market. Today, his mission is to empower driven individuals to become confident, "Wicked Smart" investors — no matter where they’re starting from.In this episode, Jason and Chris discuss:How Chris rebuilt his real estate business after the 2008 crash using “terms” dealsWhat does it mean to buy real estate using creative financing strategiesThree powerful methods: Owner Financing, Lease Purchase, and Subject-To dealsWhy market conditions don’t matter when you learn how to pivot with strategyChris's “Three Paydays” system and how it creates consistent cash flowKey Takeaways: Buying real estate “on terms” gives investors the ability to acquire properties without relying on traditional financing. No credit checks, large down payments, or bank approvals are required, making it a powerful strategy for anyone starting from scratch.Principal-only payments through owner financing offer a smart path to build equity fast. This approach increases monthly cash flow and minimizes interest expenses, especially valuable in today’s high-rate environment.Success in any market comes down to knowing where to focus and being able to pivot. When one lead source dries up, there's always another list or niche to explore—what matters is adaptability.A committed and aligned team can be the difference between staying stuck and scaling a business. Chris credits his company’s growth to surrounding himself with people who complement his strengths.Long-term commitment trumps quick wins. Choosing a niche you believe in and sticking with it—without distractions—for 3 to 7 years is what ultimately creates lasting success.“Pick a niche, pick someone you can get behind, and then put the blinders on for three to seven years. That’s where the real breakthroughs happen—when you stop chasing shiny objects and stay committed.” - Chris PrefontaineGrab Your Free Books from Chris: https://www.wickedsmartbooks.com/jason Free Real Estate Masterclass by Chris: https://wickedsmartacademy.com/mastersclass Connect with Chris Prefontaine:Website: https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisprefontaine/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Shawn D. Nelson is the founder and CEO of Lovesac, the furniture company known for its modular couches and big ideas. He’s also the author of Let Me Save You 25 Years: Mistakes, Miracles, and Lessons from the Lovesac Story, where he shares the wild ride of building a disruptive brand from scratch. With a BA in Mandarin Chinese and a Master’s in Strategic Design and Management from Parsons, Shawn blends creativity with strategy—skills he later passed on as an instructor. From winning Richard Branson’s reality show to leading a publicly traded company, Shawn brings bold lessons in innovation, grit, and growth to every conversation.In this episode, Jason and Shawn discuss:The origin story of Lovesac and how it started as a college projectThe philosophy of “Designed for Life” and true product sustainabilityMistakes, miracles, and lessons shared in Shawn’s book Let Me Save You 25 YearsScaling a company with purpose while remaining humble and authenticWhy building the right team is key to lasting leadership and growthKey Takeaways: A playful idea turned into a powerhouse brand—Shawn’s giant bean bag sparked Lovesac, a company now rooted in durability, innovation, and intentional design. What began as a college experiment evolved into a billion-dollar business.Shawn’s entrepreneurial path wasn’t all smooth—he shares unfiltered stories of painful mistakes (like a team member losing a fingertip) and remarkable triumphs, including taking Lovesac public.“Designed for Life” isn’t a marketing phrase—it’s the core of Lovesac’s identity. The company’s products are built to last and adapt, creating a unique edge in a disposable world.You don’t need to have it all figured out from the start. Sometimes, just surviving long enough opens the door for your true mission to take shape.True leadership isn’t about doing it all yourself. It’s about hiring exceptional people, trusting them to lead, and stepping back so they can thrive.“Once you get to a point—and in my case, it took the better part of 25 years—you can finally wrap your organization around something that matters. Even if it takes a long time to find that purpose, once you do, you can build something way more meaningful and impactful than just a big bean bag or a clever couch company that makes some dude a bunch of money. Because that’s not really what motivates any of us.” - Shawn NelsonConnect with Shawn Nelson:Websites: https://www.lovesac.com/ , https://shawndnelson.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawndnelson/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnoflovesac/ Podcast: https://shawndnelson.com/podcast/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Vince Wanga is a dynamic international design thought leader, creative keynote speaker, award-winning creative executive, author of The Art of Direction, serial entrepreneur, and experienced brand consultant with an exceptional range of expertise built over a distinguished two-decade career.As the former Vice President and Head of Creative for one of the fastest-growing technology startups in North America, he led corporate brand strategy and creative direction during a period of extraordinary growth, from pre-Series A to a “unicorn” valuation of over $1 billion.In this episode, Jason and Vince discuss:Why failures were the greatest teacher in Vince’s creative and leadership journeyThe meaning behind his book, The Art of Direction, and why leadership is an artHow creative leaders play a pivotal role at the forefront of business changeThe realistic role of AI in the workplace and how leaders should approach itWhat he learned scaling a company from Series A to a $1B valuation in four yearsKey Takeaways: Vince attributes much of his growth and resilience to the failures he encountered early in his career, viewing them as foundational learning experiences rather than setbacks.Leadership isn’t something you apply like a formula; it’s a nuanced, evolving practice that demands empathy, creativity, and the ability to adapt to changing people and circumstances.The most successful companies aren’t reactive—they stay true to their core values and make bold, intentional choices even when the market zigs in a different direction.Rather than fearing artificial intelligence, leaders should view it as a partner—a tool that can automate mundane tasks and amplify strategy when used wisely.Creative professionals often feel disruption before others do, serving as early indicators of broader changes in business and culture—what Vince calls the "canaries in the coal mine."“I truly believe leadership has to be empathetic. You need to understand your industry, your team, and your customer—and that requires the ability to adapt, not just with the times, but with circumstances, the economy, and all the variables thrown your way. That’s where the science of leadership breaks down, and it becomes an art form—because art, inherently, is an adaptable strategy.” - Vince WangaConnect with Vince Wanga:Website: https://www.vincentwanga.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-wanga/ Vince’s Book: https://www.vincentwanga.com/shop Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Are you ready to uncover what truly drives lasting change—for yourself, your team, or your entire organization? In this episode, we dive into the powerful RAMPS framework, exploring how results, action, mindset, process, and system come together to spark meaningful transformation. Learn why behavior change alone isn’t enough, how mindset shifts accelerate progress, and why understanding the broader system you’re part of is essential. Whether you're a leader, coach, or someone navigating growth, this conversation offers a practical, insightful guide to intentional, sustainable change.In this episode, Steve Scanlon, Steve Longan, and Jason discuss:The foundational questions driving personal and organizational change: “Do people change?” and “How?”The decade-long development of RAMPS — a comprehensive framework for changeThe metaphor of the Isle of Tortuga as a lens for understanding change and transformationHow mindset, action, and systems interact to facilitate sustainable growthWhy prescriptive methods often fall short and how RAMPS respects individual differentiationKey Takeaways: Lasting change is possible, but it requires a dual focus: honoring the unique journey of the individual while also considering the system they operate within. Ignoring either side risks an incomplete transformation.The RAMPS framework—Results, Action, Mindset, Process, System—offers a fluid, practical structure for navigating positive change. It’s designed to be comprehensive yet adaptable across diverse contexts and leadership levels.Too often, people attempt change through sheer willpower or behavior tweaks, only to stall out. Without addressing mindset, those efforts rarely stick or scale.You don’t need to start at the beginning to benefit from RAMPS. Whether you're targeting action, mindset, or results, the model is built to meet you where you are, while still guiding you through the full arc of transformation.The impact of change doesn’t end at work. When someone grows through the RAMPS process, the benefits often ripple into their home life, relationships, and broader community.“Mindset goes beyond behavior modification — we can’t help people change how they act until we change how they think.” - Steve ScanlonConnect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Kevin Eikenberry is a world‑renowned leadership and remote‑work expert, bestselling author, speaker, consultant, and coach, and proudly serves as Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group, which he founded in 1993. With roots on a Michigan farm and a B.S. from Purdue, Kevin learned early lessons in values, work ethic, and trust. He's the co‑founder of The Remote Leadership Institute and creator of Signature programs like From Bud to Boss and the Long‑Distance Leader series. Twice named by Inc.com as a Top 100 Leadership Expert and recognized by Global Gurus and AMA, he empowers leaders to turn potential into impact. A storyteller at heart, Kevin inspires audiences to embrace learning as play.In this episode, Jason and Kevin discuss:What it means to lead with gratitude in uncertain timesThe core concept behind Kevin’s new book, Flexible LeadershipWhy rigid leadership styles are becoming increasingly ineffectiveThe danger of over-identifying with your leadership "type"Practical ways leaders can flex and adapt based on contextKey Takeaways: Leadership must evolve to keep pace with a rapidly changing and increasingly complex world. What worked yesterday may not work today—adaptation is no longer optional.Flexibility isn’t about compromising your values—it’s about staying rooted while shifting your methods. Just like a tree bends with the wind but stays grounded, effective leaders adjust without losing their core.Locking yourself into a single leadership style can limit your effectiveness. True growth comes when you move beyond your default behaviors and respond to what the moment truly requires.Engaging with your team on a deeper level is essential, especially in uncertain times. Trust and collaboration flourish when leaders listen, involve others, and stay open to feedback.“It depends” can be a leadership superpower. Taking a moment to assess the true context before acting leads to wiser, more impactful decisions.“We have to be able to think differently about how we lead in any given moment—especially when it challenges our comfort zones, past experiences, or auto-responses. We must move beyond those defaults to lead in a way that fits the moment and gives us the best chance of success, even if it’s not what we prefer, are used to, or feel comfortable with. That’s what flexible leadership is—going beyond our auto-responses.” - Kevin EikenberryClaim Kevin's free gift to boost your confidence and leadership skills: https://kevineikenberry.com/giftConnect with Kevin Eikenberry:Website: https://kevineikenberry.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry/ Kevin’s books: https://kevineikenberry.com/books/ Podcasts: https://kevineikenberry.com/podcasts/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Laura Michael is one of Rewire's Professional Certified Coaches, focusing primarily on Leadership Coaching. Laura is a communication connoisseur with a passion for helping individuals break free from societal expectations and embrace their true potential. She has spent over 20 years in corporate America, and currently owns and operates Professional Box Breaker, where she provides leadership coaching programs to organizations as an employee benefit for rising leaders. Through her own experiences and coaching conversations, Laura inspires others to navigate their paths with confidence and embrace the freedom of living outside the box. In this episode, Jason and Laura discuss:The concept of “Raise the Ceiling, Raise the Floor” and how it applies to leadership and personal growthWhy letting go of low-impact tasks creates space for true growthThe power of choosing intentional discomfort in both work and lifeHow does this model support team development and upward mobility for everyoneStrategies for reframing delegation and aligning team goals with personal growthKey Takeaways: Growth isn’t just about doing more—it’s about doing differently. To evolve, we must intentionally release what no longer serves us.Your comfort zone may feel productive, but real transformation happens in the discomfort of your "ceiling" and the release of your "floor."Delegation is not simply handing off tasks—it's about building trust, creating support systems, and enabling others to step into their stretch zones.You don’t need a big team to grow. Automation, outsourcing, or even shifting priorities can create the space needed to elevate your capacity.Leadership is often less about doing and more about being—and that takes intentional capacity and awareness.“The beauty of this model is that your floor is someone else's ceiling, and your ceiling is somebody else's floor. It ends up being this beautiful staircase where everybody levels up together, as long as everybody is taking on some ceiling and giving away some floor.” - Laura MichaelConnect with Laura Michael:Website: https://www.professionalboxbreaker.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrslauramichael/ Email: lauram@rewireinc.com Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Jon Sneider is the dynamic Founder and President of Wild Gravity, LLC, a creative production powerhouse for technology brands. As the bestselling author of Hacking Advertising, Jon brings a pragmatic, results-driven approach to marketing, shaped by decades of experience in global advertising across TV, digital, social, and retail channels. A veteran marketing executive, Jon has led innovative campaigns for some of the world’s largest brands, earning numerous industry accolades for creativity and business impact. In 2017, he co-founded Wild Gravity with Jonathan Harris, driven by a mission to revolutionize the advertising-production landscape through efficiency and creative excellence.In this episode, Jason and Jon discuss:How to produce high-quality ads without the traditional agency modelThe five magic metrics that determine advertising successThe evolution of digital marketing and how big brands are adaptingWhy creative production companies can outperform traditional ad agenciesThe role of AI in modern advertising and its current limitationsKey Takeaways: Jon champions creative production companies, like Wild Gravity, that seamlessly integrate creative services, production, and post-production. This innovative approach eliminates inefficiencies while delivering high-quality ads faster and at a lower cost compared to traditional agencies.The five essential metrics—breakthrough, brand recall, message clarity, likability, and purchase intent—are pivotal in crafting impactful ads. Mastering these metrics not only enhances brand presence but also drives measurable business outcomes.Jon’s journey from large advertising firms to founding Wild Gravity was driven by witnessing the outdated, fragmented processes within traditional agencies. This realization catalyzed his mission to streamline ad production through a more holistic and efficient model.The episode reveals the transformative power of professional relationships, as Jon’s network played a crucial role in his entrepreneurial journey. Cultivating connections is not just beneficial but foundational to long-term success.While AI is a valuable tool for ideation and drafting, human intervention remains indispensable. The nuanced discussion emphasizes that creativity and refinement still lie within human expertise despite AI advancements.“If you want to start a company one day, get a job in the industry that you want to start your company in, learn every single role that there is, try and work every single role, and in that way you are going to figure out what the niche is for your company, and in that way you can be successful.” - Jon SneiderConnect with Jon Sneider:Website: https://www.wildgravity.net/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sneider/ Jon’s Book: https://hackingadvertising.com/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Meg Crosby and Howard Cleveland co-founded PeopleCap Advisors in 2012 to empower leaders and elevate organizations.Prior to PeopleCap, Crosby worked as an HR leader for companies of all sizes, including a small tech start-up as a sole HR practitioner, and at Google, where she led acquisition integration. Her corporate work, consulting practice, and board experience have established her as an expert in organizational culture, people strategy, and high growth.Cleveland began his career as a labor and employment attorney, guiding leaders through complex employee issues and fostering cultures of trust. Now a sought-after coach and advisor for leaders spanning five continents, Cleveland is known for his strategic insights, leadership expertise, and intuitive understanding of human dynamics.In this episode, Jason, Meg, and Howard discuss:Discover the story behind PeopleCap Advisors and their new book, Running the GauntletKey leadership challenges during high-growth phases and how to overcome themExplore six key imperatives for successful high-growth leadershipHow to develop a "self-replicating talent machine" within an organizationThe importance of culture in leadership and how to define, demonstrate, and defend itKey Takeaways: Building a strong foundation for long-term success often stems from leveraging complementary skill sets. Their dynamic partnership highlights how diverse perspectives can enrich leadership strategies and drive growth.As high-growth companies expand, leaders must transition from being generalists to specialists. This evolution requires continuous learning and the ability to adapt one's skills to meet the demands of a more complex organizational structure.Sustainable growth hinges on creating robust systems for hiring, training, and talent development. Implementing consistent practices ensures that successful leadership traits are reproduced throughout the organization, fostering long-term resilience.Letting go of long-time employees who no longer fit the evolving structure is not just necessary but beneficial. This intentional liberation can open new opportunities for both the individual and the organization, fostering alignment and renewed momentum.Effective leaders know that culture is not just established but maintained through intentional actions. Defining, demonstrating, and defending cultural values is essential to preserving accountability and ensuring sustainable progress, even during rapid growth.“That's one of the great things about having a strong culture. It will attract the right people and repel others. It doesn't mean that the people it repels are bad; it just means they're not a fit for the culture.” - Meg Thomas CrosbyConnect with Meg Crosby & Howard Cleveland:Website: https://www.peoplecap.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meg-thomas-crosby-6424781a/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardcleveland/ Emails: meg.crosby@peoplecap.com , howard.cleveland@peoplecap.com Meg & Howard’s Book: https://www.peoplecap.com/book/ Connect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
Ready to rethink what truly fuels growth? Jason and Steve reveal why systems alone aren’t enough—and why people are the real growth engine. Learn how soft skills, mindset, and personalized development plans drive meaningful transformation across organizations. Discover why ongoing coaching, adaptive thinking, and leadership by example are the keys to avoiding stagnation and unlocking next-level performance. Whether you're leading a team or leading yourself, this episode challenges you to shift from process-driven to people-first growth. Let’s explore the human side of scaling success!In this episode, Jason and Steve discuss:Why elite systems alone won’t lead to lasting growth without human developmentThe importance of mindset, soft skills, and personalized development in the workplaceFour key principles to drive growth through people instead of just processHow leaders can model the behavior they wish to see in their teamsThe measurable ROI of investing in ongoing personal and professional coachingKey Takeaways: Without prioritizing people development, even the best processes eventually plateau. Human growth is not just complementary—it’s foundational to real progress.Growth isn’t a checkbox; it’s a commitment. The episode emphasizes how cultivating a culture of continuous learning and evolving mindsets is what separates thriving teams from stagnant ones.Rather than issuing directives, impactful leaders set the tone by embodying the very changes they seek, proving that transformation begins from the inside out, not as a top-down directive.Individualized development rooted in personality, goals, and strengths isn’t just empowering—it’s essential for retention and engagement in today’s workforce.Professional coaching emerges not merely as an optional perk but as a powerful catalyst for transformation, offering a mirror to reframe thinking, challenge assumptions, and accelerate lasting personal and organizational change.“We are the ones that adapt in a system. And when we can do that, we can take systems that we built and make them better. But if we don't focus on people—how we process, how we develop our skills, and how we get better internally—then everything seems to stagnate and get flat.” - Steve ScanlonConnect with Steve and Jason:LinkedIn: Jason or SteveWebsite: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking Email: grow@rewireinc.comShow notes by: Angelo Paul TagamaAudio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.