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Welcome to the Ketamine StartUp Podcast! This is the FIRST podcast dedicated to entrepreneurial medical professionals who want to learn more about providing ketamine therapy, run a business, marketing, and more.


We are Sam and Kim Ko, two board certified physicians who have ventured into the ketamine therapy world. We’ve learned a lot of lessons, taught many clinicians like yourself, and luckily made a few friends along the way.


In this podcast we share our experience and knowledge, plus that of the ketamine industry pioneers and leaders in our interviews.


If you’re ready to boldly go where a few medical professionals have gone before, download and listen to our podcast today

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In this episode, Sam welcomes Dennis Wichern, a retired DEA special agent who now runs Prescription Drug Consulting, to discuss various aspects of compliance and regulatory guidance essential for running a ketamine infusion clinic. Dennis shares his extensive background in federal law enforcement and provides valuable insights into the DEA's procedures for audits, record keeping, and security. The episode also covers the historical context of the DEA, the impact of telehealth on controlled substance regulations, and advice for clinicians on risk mitigation and best practices.Friendly reminder: this podcast is for educational purposes only. The views expressed in this episode are those of the speaker and do not constitute legal or medical advice. Always consult with a professional before making decisions for your business or medical practice.What You'll Learn in This Episode:• Understanding DEA Audits: Learn about what triggers a DEA visit and the focus areas of these audits.• Record Keeping Essentials: Discuss the critical elements of record keeping and how to avoid common pitfalls.• Advice for New Clinicians: Practical advice for clinicians new to the field, focusing on compliance and ethical practice.Episode 23 show notes:00:00 Teaser - When The DEA Visits You…00:22 Welcome to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:35 Meet Dennis Wichern: DEA Special Agent Turned Consultant01:45 Dennis Wichern's Career Journey with the DEA03:13 Transition to Pharmaceutical Control and Consulting06:27 Understanding the DEA's Role and Regulations08:08 The Banking Model Metaphor for DEA Regulations12:29 Key Elements of Record Keeping and Security15:22 Risk and Penalties for Ketamine Clinics23:25 Red Flags and DEA Audits27:14 Free Ketamine Clinic Startup Checklist27:58 State-Level DEA Enforcement Variations31:25 Advice for Clinicians on Inventory Management33:31 Witnessing and Documentation in Small Clinics35:47 Online Ketamine Therapy and DEA Perspectives40:51 Political Influence on DEA Regulations44:20 Starting a Ketamine Clinic: Key Advice50:40 Rapid Fire Questions and Contact Information52:53 Closing remarksThanks for listeningConnect with Dennis:LinkedInPrescription Drug Consulting WebsiteEmail: dennis.wichern@prescriptiondrugconsulting.comPhone: (312) 859-2430Selected links and references:Ryan Haight ActThis doctor prescribed ketamine from his home. DEA shut it down.Missoula doctor settles alleged Controlled Substances Act recordkeeping violations for $85,000✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
This episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, comes from a presentation Sam gave at the American College of Emergency Physicians Scientific Assembly on October 1,  2024. Discover the journey of opening a ketamine clinic, the efficacy of IV ketamine for depression, anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain, and the mechanism behind its success. You will learn about the growing mental health crisis, high burnout rates among emergency physicians, and why ketamine therapy can be a rewarding alternative career path. Sam also shares the emotional and financial realities of running a ketamine clinic, emphasizing the importance of motivation, purpose, and personal fulfillment. Hear powerful testimonials from patients and gain practical advice for starting your own clinic. Don't miss this comprehensive guide filled with scientific studies, real-life experiences, and expert insights.What You’ll Learn In This Episode:• Career Transition: Discover how emergency physicians can pivot into running ketamine clinics and find greater autonomy and purpose.• Clinical Evidence: Explore key studies supporting the use of ketamine therapy for depression, anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain.• Overcoming Challenges: Understand the financial and emotional challenges of running a ketamine clinic and how to stay motivated by focusing on your "why."Episode 22 show notes:00:00 Teaser - The Swimming Pool Dilemma00:35 Introduction01:10 Sam's Journey and Niche in Ketamine Therapy03:12 The Mental Health Crisis05:05 Challenges Faced by Emergency Physicians06:13 Scientific Studies on IV Ketamine Therapy08:45 Ketamine for Anxiety and PTSD10:47 Ketamine for Chronic Pain12:13 How Does Ketamine Work?12:17 Ketamine's Impact on Neurotransmitters13:11 Ketamine and Chronic Stress14:06 Hallucinogenic Effects of Ketamine14:57 Emergency Medicine and Ketamine16:16 Starting a Ketamine Clinic17:19 The Importance of Your 'Why'18:33 Challenges and Rewards of a Ketamine Clinic20:12 Patient Testimonials and Impact21:34 ConclusionThanks for listening🚀 Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.📺 Watch the video version with slides on YoutubeSelected Links From The Episode84.  A Look Inside Ketamine Clinics (and how to start your own) | The Rob Orman Stimulus Podcast episode Sam was a guest onHow to Start a Ketamine Clinic | Sam’s White Coat investor guest blog postPursuit of Ketamine | The documentary Sam was featured inSelected References From The Episode:Kolp, Eli & L. Friedman, Harris & Krupitsky, Evgeny & Jansen, Karl & Sylvester, Mark & Young, Matthew & Kolp, Anna. (2014). Ketamine Psychedelic Psychotherapy: Focus on its Pharmacology, Phenomenology, and Clinical Applications. International Journal of Transpersonal Studies. 33. 84-140. 10.24972/ijts.2014.33.2.84.Depression:Berman RM, Cappiello A, Anand A, Oren DA, Heninger GR, Charney DS, Krystal JH. Antidepressant effects of ketamine in depressed patients. Biol Psychiatry. 2000 Feb 15;47(4):351-4. doi: 10.1016/s0006-3223(99)00230-9. PMID: 10686270.Marcantoni WS, Akoumba BS, Wassef M, Mayrand J, Lai H, Richard-Devantoy S, Beauchamp S. A systematic review and meta-analysis of the efficacy of intravenous ketamine infusion for treatment resistant depression: January 2009 - January 2019. J Affect Disord. 2020 Dec 1;277:831-841. doi: 10.1016/j.jad.2020.09.007. Epub 2020 Sep 7. PMID: 33065824.Anand A, Mathew SJ, Sanacora G, Murrough JW, Goes FS, Altinay M, Aloysi AS, Asghar-Ali AA, Barnett BS, Chang LC, Collins KA, Costi S, Iqbal S, Jha MK, Krishnan K, Malone DA, Nikayin S, Nissen SE, Ostroff RB, Reti IM, Wilkinson ST, Wolski K, Hu B. Ketamine versus ECT for Nonpsychotic Treatment-Resistant Major Depression. N Engl J Med. 2023 Jun 22;388(25):2315-2325. doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa2302399. Epub 2023 May 24. PMID: 37224232.Jha MK, Wilkinson ST, Krishnan K, Collins KA, Sanacora G, Murrough J, Goes F, Altinay M, Aloysi A, Asghar-Ali A, Barnett B, Chang L, Costi S, Malone D, Nikayin S, Nissen SE, Ostroff R, Reti I, Wolski K, Wang D, Hu B, Mathew SJ, Anand A. Ketamine vs Electroconvulsive Therapy for Treatment-Resistant Depression: A Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Clinical Trial. JAMA Netw Open. 2024 Jun 3;7(6):e2417786. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2024.17786. PMID: 38916891; PMCID: PMC11200139.Anxiety:Glue P, Medlicott NJ, Harland S, Neehoff S, Anderson-Fahey B, Le Nedelec M, Gray A, McNaughton N. Ketamine's dose-related effects on anxiety symptoms in patients with treatment refractory anxiety disorders. J Psychopharmacol. 2017 Oct;31(10):1302-1305. doi: 10.1177/0269881117705089. Epub 2017 Apr 26. PMID: 28441895.PTSD:Feder A, Parides MK, Murrough JW, Perez AM, Morgan JE, Saxena S, Kirkwood K, Aan Het Rot M, Lapidus KA, Wan LB, Iosifescu D, Charney DS. Efficacy of intravenous ketamine for treatment of chronic posttraumatic stress disorder: a randomized clinical trial. JAMA Psychiatry. 2014 Jun;71(6):681-8. doi: 10.1001/jamapsychiatry.2014.62. PMID: 24740528.Feder A, Costi S, Rutter SB, Collins AB, Govindarajulu U, Jha MK, Horn SR, Kautz M, Corniquel M, Collins KA, Bevilacqua L, Glasgow AM, Brallier J, Pietrzak RH, Murrough JW, Charney DS. A Randomized Controlled Trial of Repeated Ketamine Administration for Chronic Posttraumatic Stress Disorder. Am J Psychiatry. 2021 Feb 1;178(2):193-202. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.20050596. Epub 2021 Jan 5. PMID: 33397139.Chronic Pain:Orhurhu V, Orhurhu MS, Bhatia A, Cohen SP. Ketamine Infusions for Chronic Pain: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials. Anesth Analg. 2019 Jul;129(1):241-25
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast Sam interviews Dr. Tiago Gil, an anesthesiologist from Brazil and a pioneer in the ketamine treatment landscape in his country. Dr. Gil shares his unique journey from traditional anesthesia practice to becoming a specialist in ketamine therapy, offering deep dives into the intricacies of ketamine’s impact and its practical applications.Discover the importance of seeing ketamine as a treatment to provide patients rather than a product to be scaled and sold - emphasizing the deeply personal and empathetic approach necessary in interventional psychiatric mental healthcare.What You'll Learn in This Episode:.• Professional Development: Learn how continuous learning and specialization can lead to significant shifts in medical practice and patient care.• Strategic Guidance: Gain valuable insights on navigating the medical and ethical considerations when introducing new treatments like ketamine, helping you tailor patient care approaches in diverse medical environments• Innovative Approaches: Understand Dr. Gil's innovative approach to ketamine therapy, focusing on quality of life as the primary goalEpisode 21 show notes:00:00 Teaser - Don’t Do it for the Daiquiris00:27 Intro and Meet Dr. Thiago Gil: Anesthesiologist from Brazil01:13 Discovering Ketamine's Antidepressant Properties01:41 Transition to Ketamine Therapy05:31 Learning from International Experts10:12 Challenges and Realizations10:39 The Brazilian Healthcare System13:24 Growth of Ketamine Clinics in Brazil16:54 The Shift to Esketamine20:30 Clinical Practice Differences23:26 Quality of Life Through Ketamine23:58 Ketamine vs. Traditional Operating Room25:29 Respecting Patients on Their Worst Days26:09 Exploring Alternative Treatments29:34 The Power of Dreams in Healing33:23 Advice for Aspiring Ketamine Clinic Owners36:12 Balancing Work and Personal Life39:28 Fun and Personal Insights46:48 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationThanks for listeningConnect with Dr. Gil:Dr. Gil's InstagramDr. Gil’s Clinic websiteDr. Gil's LinkedInCheck out Dr. Gil’s article discussed in the episode:Efficacy of intravenous esketamine in reducing suicidal ideation and major depressive symptoms: A real-world evidence study✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine StartUp Podcast, hosts Kim and Sam delve into the essential concepts of set, setting, and integration within the realm of ketamine therapy. Recorded during a live mastermind session with their course students, this discussion sheds light on the profound impact these elements have on the therapeutic environment and patient outcomes. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or new to the field, you’ll gain valuable insights into optimizing patient care and enhancing their transformation.Episode 20 Show Notes:00:00 Episode Teaser - Setting the “GPS”00:26 Introduction01:23 Understanding Set and Setting in Ketamine Therapy03:09 Preparing Patients for Ketamine Infusion07:44 Creating a Safe and Supportive Environment11:07 Integration: The Homework After Ketamine Treatment17:51 The Four-Step Integration Process21:08 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsThanks for listening✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, we collaborate with Dr. Carl Bonnett, the founder of Klarisana and prior podcast guest, to explore the often misunderstood concept of ego death through the lens of Matthew Perry's experiences with ketamine therapy. The conversation also covers topics like the efficacy of ketamine in treating mental health conditions, near-death experiences induced by ketamine, and the crucial role of preparation and integration in ketamine therapy.Listen for a nuanced discussion that challenges preconceptions and sheds light on the therapeutic potential of ketamine when used responsibly. What You'll Learn in This Episode:• The Role of Media and Culture: How celebrity experiences can influence public interest and stigma surrounding psychedelic therapies.• Safety and Ethics in Ketamine Therapy: The importance of setting and professional oversight in ketamine treatments.• Personal Stories and Case Studies: Both Dr. Bonnett and Sam share anecdotes from their respective clinical practices, highlighting transformative experiences and common misconceptions.Episode 19 show notes:00:00 Episode Teaser - Ketamine & Near-Death Experiences00:23 Introduction00:31 Special Collaboration with Dr. Carl Bonnet01:52 Discussion on Matthew Perry and Ego Death02:36 Therapeutic Use of Ego Disruption05:39 Patient Experiences and Integration08:07 Safety and Responsible Use of Ketamine12:36 Education and Public Perception19:36 Concluding Thoughts and Final Remarks21:10 Additional Insights on Near-Death Experiences With SamThanks for listening - make sure to check out Dr. Bonnett’s YouTube ChannelStudy mentioned in episode: Neurochemical models of near-death experiences: A large-scale study based on the semantic similarity of written reports. Martial C, et al. Learn more about the types of ketamine experiences:  The 4 Types of Non-Ordinary Experiences Your Ketamine Patients Can HaveConnect with Dr. Bonnett at:Instagram: docbonnett_psychedelicLinkedIn: /carlbonnettYouTube: @docbonnett⭐️ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist
In this quick episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam shares some updates in the psychedelic world, in particular the recent FDA decision on MDMA therapy and the developments in the investigation into Matthew Perry’s death. This episode covers the complexities of operating a ketamine clinic amidst recent controversies affecting the public perception of psychedelic therapies. Sam finishes the discussion, with the challenges and responsibilities of providing ketamine treatments responsibly and ethically in today's healthcare environment.What You’ll Learn In This Episode:• Public Perception and Media Impact: How recent news events shape public perception of ketamine and what clinics can do to educate and reassure their communities.• Understanding Ketamine's Dual Nature: Learn about the therapeutic potential and risks associated with ketamine, emphasizing the importance of controlled and knowledgeable application in clinical settings.• Opportunities and Alternatives: Discover what actions you can take and explore alternative treatments like the stellate ganglion block (SGB), and their role in treating PTSD and other conditions.Episode 18 show notes:00:00 Episode Teaser - Ketamine Can Be UnSafe 00:58 FDA's Decision on MDMA Therapy03:50 Checklist for Starting a Ketamine Clinic04:43 Matthew Perry's Case Updates and Ketamine Safety06:33 Responsible Ketamine Administration10:28 MDMA Rejection and Alternative Treatments - Stellate Ganglion Blocks13:18 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsThanks for listeningLearn more about stellate ganglion blocks in episode 11 with Dr. Sara Herman✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam sits down with Dr. James Leathem, co-founder of Advanced Wellness and Pain in Arizona. Dr. Leathem shares his unforeseen path into medicine and psychedelic experiences that shaped his career from anesthesiology to entrepreneurship. The conversation explores the intricacies of ketamine therapy  and the challenges of operating a ketamine clinic, particularly amid the COVID-19 pandemic Dr. Leathem imparts his wisdom on the essentials of mindset, gratitude, authenticity, and community-building in healthcare. He also shares insights into the potential of MDMA therapy, the significance of creating meaningful experiences for patients, and concludes with a display of his hidden talent in freestyle rap.What You'll Learn in This Episode:• Pathways in Psychedelic Medicine: Insights into how traditional paths in medicine can pivot towards innovative fields like psychedelic therapy, particularly ketamine treatment, to enhance mental health care.• Entrepreneurship in Healthcare: Discover the real-world challenges and rewards of launching and managing a ketamine clinic, including navigating uncertainties and leveraging personal experiences to shape business practices.• Holistic Patient Care: Learn about the importance of integrating personal growth, mindset, and patient-centric approaches in creating effective and empathetic healthcare environments.Episode 17 show notes:00:00 Episode Teaser - What’s Your Motivation?00:28 Introduction to the Podcast01:09 Dr. James Leathem's Medical Journey01:19 The Impact and Challenges of Ketamine Clinics01:48 Personal Stories and Serendipity02:34 Facing Fear and Embracing Courage02:47 The Philosophy of Ketamine Treatment03:32 From Anesthesiology to Ketamine Therapy07:59 The Birth of Advanced Wellness and Pain16:17 Creating a Unique Ketamine Experience26:51 Self-Care and Balancing Life30:00 Burnout in Healthcare and the Importance of Self-Care31:02 Daily Practices for Mental Well-being31:15 The Role of Community and Connection31:21 Foundations of Self-Actualization33:43 The Three Archetypes in Business34:44 Embracing Leadership and Personal Growth37:32 The Future of Psychedelic Medicine & MDMA44:05 Controversies and Safety in Ketamine Use47:57 Advice for Aspiring Ketamine Clinic Owners53:07 Fun Questions and Personal Insights57:33 Freestyling Rap Time!58:43 Final Thoughts and GratitudeThanks for listeningConnect with Dr. Leathem  at:Advance Wellness and Pain Clinic Website Advance Wellness and Pain InstagramAdvance Wellness and Pain FacebookAdvance Wellness and Pain YoutubeAdvance Wellness and Pain TiktokDr. Leathem’s LinkedIn✅Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Scarlett Mulligan, a physician assistant and founder of Novus Behavioral Health in Clarksville, Tennessee. Scarlett shares her journey from her transition from the Air Force to establishing a pioneering psychiatric practice. She discusses her challenges, from overcoming fears such as leaving the security of a salaried job to managing the complexities of running a practice. Scarlett also talks about the impact of ketamine treatments, the necessity of proactive management and mentoring, and her experiences with various medical and entrepreneurial endeavors.  This conversation is filled with practical advice for medical professionals contemplating a similar leap into healthcare entrepreneurship and provides a deep understanding of the personal commitment required to make a meaningful impact.What You'll Learn in This Episode:• Innovative Approaches in Psychiatry: How ketamine therapy is being integrated into traditional psychiatric practices to enhance patient care.• Challenges of Healthcare Entrepreneurship: Key challenges faced when starting and scaling a medical practice, and strategies to overcome them.• Building a Patient-Centric Practice: Insights into creating a practice that focuses deeply on patient needs and the therapeutic potential of new treatments like ketamine.Episode 16 show notes:00:00 Introduction00:23 Meet Scarlett Mulligan01:44 The Journey to Novus Behavioral Health03:18 Overcoming Challenges and Shifting Mindsets04:47 Personal Background and Connection to Psychiatry14:30 Building Novus Behavioral Health22:14 The Impact of Ketamine Therapy25:35 Expanding Clinic Operations26:19 Offering TMS and Spravato26:52 Addressing Patient Travel Concerns27:23 Considering Therapy and Neurofeedback28:17 Launching a Ketamine Clinic29:17 Challenges and Solutions in Practice31:33 Systematizing Processes34:36 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs36:32 Fun Rapid-Fire Questions42:28 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationThanks for listeningConnect with Scarlett Mulligan at:Novus Behavioral Health Website Novus Behavioral Health Instagram Novus Behavioral Health Facebook Scarlett Mulligan’s LinkedIn ✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Dr. William Bianchi, an emergency medicine physician and founder of Maverick Medicine in La Jolla, California. Dr. Bianchi shares his journey from the Navy to starting his ketamine clinic, discussing the challenges and rewards of entering this innovative healthcare field. Discover the nuanced approach to ketamine dosing, the significance of starting with 'why,' and Dr. Bianchi's unique take on patient care in mental health therapy. Tune in for practical advice and heartfelt stories that every medical professional interested in ketamine therapy will benefit from.What You'll Gain in This Episode:• Unique Pathways: Learn how a career in emergency medicine can evolve into a specialized ketamine practice.• Overcoming Challenges: Discover the obstacles faced when venturing into the ketamine therapy space and how to navigate them.• Evidence-Based Approaches: Understand the significance of grounding alternative treatments like ketamine in solid research to ensure safety and efficacy.Episode 15 show notes:00:00 Introduction to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:37 Meet Dr. William Bianchi01:17 Dr. Bianchi's Military Background and Ketamine Journey03:32 Challenges and Rewards of Starting a Ketamine Clinic05:16 The Importance of Autonomy in Medical Practice11:59 Dr. Bianchi's Medical Training and Transition to the Navy20:37 Using Ketamine in Military and Emergency Medicine24:18 Future of Psychedelic Therapy in Medicine27:08 Ketamine and Clinical Research Insights27:24 Challenges in Clinical Trials28:15 MAPS and Research Protocols29:52 Concierge Clinic Approach31:05 Focusing on Treatment-Resistant Depression32:37 Personalized Patient Care41:31 Ketamine Dosing and Patient Experiences47:30 Advice for Aspiring Clinic Owners49:42 Rapid Fire Questions and Fun Facts53:37 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationThanks for listeningConnect with Dr. Bianchi at:Maverick Medicine WebsiteMaverick Medicine InstagramDr. Bianchi’s LinkedIn✅Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Kim and Sam discuss the impact of media coverage on ketamine therapy with public figures like Elon Musk and the late Matthew Perry. You’ll explore the controversies and grasp the importance of responsible and ethical practices in ketamine clinics. Discover the critical roles of ethical practices, proper settings, and clear communication in managing a ketamine therapy clinic amidst media controversies. By the end of the conversation, you’ll understand the importance of responsible usage and education in combating stigma and misinformation.What You'll Learn in This Episode:• Media Impact: The influence of the media on public perceptions of ketamine therapy.• Ethical Considerations: The importance of ethical practices and patient education in ketamine therapy clinics.• Business Challenges: How to manage and mitigate the impacts of media controversies on clinic operations.Episode show notes:00:00 Introduction to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:47 Elon Musk and Ketamine Therapy03:38 Matthew Perry's Ketamine Controversy06:38 Navigating Media and Public Relations08:59 Ethical and Safe Use of Ketamine10:06 Resources for Aspiring Ketamine Clinic Owners12:49 Facing Challenges and Growth Opportunities18:40 Final Thoughts and Takeaways21:49 Conclusion and Call to ActionThanks for listening✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Kathryn 'Katie' Walker, CEO of Revitalist Wellness, which operates multiple ketamine clinics. Starting from her background in anesthesia and psychiatry, to launching Revitalist in 2018 and taking the company public in 2021, you’ll learn lessons from Katie as she shares her experiences from running the business side of a ketamine clinic. The conversation touches on the challenges and successes of expanding the business, the importance of understanding and navigating laws and regulations, and the transformative impact ketamine infusion therapy has on patients. You’ll also discover her innovative approaches, including integrating therapy into ketamine sessions and leveraging AI for education and outreach. This episode offers insights into the complexities of the healthcare industry, the potential of ketamine therapy, and the importance of community and ethical business practices in scaling a mission-driven healthcare service.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:• Insights into taking a healthcare company public and the motivations behind such a decision.• The challenges of managing business aspects in healthcare, especially in a public company setting.• Strategies for healthcare providers to navigate the business world effectively.Episode show notes:00:00 Introduction00:16 Who is Kathryn Walker?02:10 The Journey of Taking a Ketamine Clinic Public04:22 Learning from Business Challenges and Growth12:31 The Transition from Healthcare to Business Leadership16:59 Balancing Business, Health, and Personal Life21:18 Advice for Aspiring Ketamine Clinic Owners31:43 Transformative Therapy: A Life-Changing Story33:28 Launching a Ketamine Clinic: A Guide for Aspiring Founders34:26 The Challenges of Rapid Expansion and Investor Expectations38:32 Navigating the Complexities of Managing Multiple Clinic Locations40:13 The Importance of Team Dynamics and Accountability in Healthcare49:43 Overcoming Industry Challenges with Innovation and Collaboration55:54 Personal Insights and Future Visions in Healthcare59:17 Connecting with Kathryn WalkerThanks for listeningConnect with Kathryn Walker at:Kathryn Walker’s WebsiteRevitalist WebsiteRevitalist InstagramRevitalist FacebookRevitalist YoutubeKate Neuropsych AI InstagramKate Neuropsych AI LinkedIn✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Kim and Sam discuss whether the legalization of MDMA and psilocybin therapy poses a threat to ketamine infusion clinics. You’ll learn about the differing mechanisms of action between these psychedelic substances and ketamine, the significance of set and setting in psychedelic therapy, and the scalability challenges associated with MDMA and psilocybin treatments. Rediscover the importance of flexibility and providing a range of therapeutic options for patients in the psychedelic mental health space. The episode encourages you—current and aspiring ketamine clinic founders— to stay informed and adaptable as the field of psychedelic therapy evolves.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:• Mechanisms of Action: Explore how ketamine, MDMA, and psilocybin differ in their effects and implications for treatment.• Scalability and Access: Insights into the logistical challenges of integrating MDMA and psilocybin into therapeutic practices.• Foundational Role of Ketamine Therapy: Understand how existing ketamine clinics can serve as a foundation for integrating emerging psychedelic treatments.Episode 12 show notes:00:00 Introduction to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:34 The Impact of MDMA and Psilocybin Legalization02:26 Challenges with MDMA and Psilocybin Therapy03:45 Advantages of Ketamine Therapy06:06 Future of Ketamine Clinics08:26 Starting Your Own Ketamine Clinic11:08 Comparing MDMA, Psilocybin, and Ketamine15:35 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsThanks for listening✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Dr. Sara Herman, founder of Soft Reboot Wellness, about her journey from anesthesiology to operating a successful ketamine therapy clinic. You’ll learn about the challenges of starting a clinic during the pandemic, the unique aspects of ketamine therapy, and the impact of treatments like stellate ganglion blocks on patients with complex conditions. Dr. Herman shares her background in medicine, the switch to ketamine therapy, and highlights the essential role of setting, music, and intention in patient care. Through her compelling patient stories, you’ll discover the profound effects of ketamine therapy on individuals struggling with severe mental health issues and chronic pain. You’ll also learn about the business side of running a clinic, including dealing with insurance and scalability, emphasizing the personalized nature of ketamine therapy. We hope you enjoy!What you’ll learn in this episode:• The motivations and challenges faced while transitioning from a traditional medical career in anesthesiology to pioneering a private practice• Insights into managing the non-medical aspects of running a ketamine clinic, such as handling overhead, marketing, and navigating business decisions without a formal business education.• The importance of set and setting in ketamine therapy and how Dr. Herman integrates mindfulness and intentionality into her treatment plans to enhance patient outcomes.Episode show notes:00:00 Introduction00:15 Meet Dr. Sara Herman: From Anesthesiologist to Ketamine Therapy Practitioner01:43 Dr. Herman's Journey: From Anesthesia to Ketamine Clinic Owner03:41 The Personal and Professional Shift to Ketamine Therapy09:48 Setting the Scene: The Importance of Environment in Ketamine Therapy18:49 The Business Side of Running a Ketamine Clinic27:25 Navigating Insurance and Financial Aspects of Ketamine Therapy32:02 Navigating the Complexities of Ketamine Clinics33:00 Personal Success Stories from the Clinic36:23 The Importance of Patient Monitoring in Ketamine Therapy40:12 Exploring Stellate Ganglion Blocks (SGBs) for Treatment47:05 Challenges and Learnings in Ketamine Therapy Practice53:26 Wrapping Up: Insights and ReflectionsThanks for listeningConnect with Dr. Herman at:Soft Reboot Wellness websiteSoft Reboot Wellness InstagramSoft Reboot Wellness FacebookDr. Herman’s LinkedIn✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, we tackle the critical question: Can your city's population support a ketamine infusion clinic? You’ll learn how to assess your local demographic, identify potential patients, and use a back-of-the-envelope calculation to get a rough patient estimate. You’ll also discover how the importance of marketing and education is needed to improve the perception of ketamine therapy in both potential patients and the broader medical community, aka your potential referring providers. No venture is without risk, but with courage and an adventurous spirit, setting up your own ketamine clinic may be a sustainable and exciting endeavor. Listen in for insights and helpful resources for prospective ketamine clinic founders.Episode show notes:00:00 Introduction00:37 Understanding the Risk of Starting a Ketamine Clinic01:13 Calculating the Potential Patient Base for Your Clinic06:02 The Role of Marketing in Attracting Patients06:22 Special Offer for Aspiring Ketamine Clinic Founders07:20 Overcoming Stigma and Educating the Medical Community10:52 The Importance of Collaboration in the Medical Field11:38 Embracing the Risk and Adventure of Starting a Clinic13:39 ConclusionThanks for listening✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.JAMA article mentioned:Rubin R. It Takes an Average of 17 Years for Evidence to Change Practice—the Burgeoning Field of Implementation Science Seeks to Speed Things Up. JAMA. 2023;329(16):1333–1336. doi:10.1001/jama.2023.4387
In this episode of the Ketamine StartUp Podcast, host Sam engages in a deep conversation with Dr. Joe Tafur, an integrative family physician, curandero, author, and speaker, exploring the fascinating nexus between modern and traditional healing methodologies, focusing on psychedelic therapy, including ketamine and ayahuasca, for treating mental health issues. You’ll gain Dr. Tafur’s insights on the skepticism towards psychedelic medicine within the medical community, its potential in addressing complex psychological and spiritual ailments, and the significance of spirituality in the healing process. Alongside discussing spirituality, you’ll dive into Dr. Tafur's personal journey, the establishment of his healing center in Peru, and the challenges faced in integrating psychedelic therapies into conventional medical practices. The discussion also covers the emerging acceptance of non-ordinary states of consciousness in medical therapy, the importance of spirituality in healing, and Dr. Tafur's upcoming book. The episode encapsulates a broad yet deep exploration of integrating spiritual and traditional healing practices within contemporary medical frameworks.What you’ll learn in this episode:• The skepticism and challenges faced by practitioners introducing psychedelic therapies within the conservative spheres of the medical community.• The essential role of spirituality in healing and the acceptance of non-ordinary states of consciousness as therapeutic tools.Episode 9 show notes:00:00 Introduction00:19 Deep Dive with Dr. Joe Tafur: The Intersection of Modern and Traditional Healing01:40 Dr. Joe's Personal Journey into Psychedelic Medicine02:55 The Leap to a Healing Center in Peru: A Doctor's Courageous Journey09:17 Facing Criticism and Embracing the Psychedelic Renaissance16:10 Integrating Ketamine Therapy into Practice: A New Frontier21:55 Exploring Non-Ordinary States of Consciousness: Ayahuasca vs. Ketamine26:46 Spirituality in Healing: The Unseen Dimension of Medicine31:20 Exploring Quantum Entanglement and Its Implications32:04 The Vital Role of Quantum Physics in Healthcare and AI32:46 Psychedelic Therapies: A New Frontier in Mental Health35:12 The Spiritual Dimension of Healing37:40 Introducing 'Medicine Song': A Journey into Spirituality44:49 The Practical Guide to Starting a Ketamine Clinic52:29 Personal Insights and Future Directions56:48 Embracing the Sacred in Medicine and Life01:01:44 Final Thoughts and How to ConnectThanks for listeningConnect with Dr. Tafur at:Dr. Tafur’s websiteDr. Tafur’s Youtube channelDr. Tafur’s FacebookDr. Tafur’s InstagramDr. Tafur’s podcastDr. Tafur’s Book - The Fellowship of the River: A Medical Doctor's Exploration into Traditional Amazonian Plant MedicineModern Spirit website🚀 Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Dr. Glareh Imani, a board-certified emergency physician who has a ketamine clinic in Arizona, Nameen Infusion & Wellness. You will learn about her neuroscience background, the compelling research that led her to ketamine therapy, and the transformative impact it has had on patients battling depression. You will gain invaluable advice on creating a patient-centered clinic, the significance of personalized treatments, and setting realistic expectations. Additionally, learn how Dr. Imani balances a demanding career with family life and personal wellbeing.Episode 8 show notes:00:00 Introduction00:17 Interview with Dr. Glareh Imani: Her Journey and Background01:07 Dr. Imani's Transition from Neuroscience to Medicine01:51 The Impact of Ketamine on Depression and Mental Health02:41 The Challenges and Triumphs of Starting a Ketamine Clinic03:27 Exploring the Fascination with Neuroscience and Consciousness05:05 The Transformative Experience of Ketamine Infusion05:26 The Decision to Start a Ketamine Clinic: A Gradual Process07:02 The Unexpected Challenges of Setting Up a Ketamine Clinic07:52 The Differences in Ketamine Delivery: Hospital vs Clinic09:18 Ensuring Safety and High Standards of Care in a Ketamine Clinic16:55 The Power of Autonomy in Running a Ketamine Clinic18:37 The Personal Evolution and Growth from Running a Ketamine Clinic18:55 The Importance of Mindfulness and Journaling in Personal Growth20:35 The Power of Breathing Techniques in Stress Management22:14 Patient Stories: Transformative Experiences with Ketamine24:39 The Importance of Informed Patients25:18 Balancing Personal Life and Running a Clinic26:23 The Power of Community and Continuous Learning27:02 The ASKP3 Conference and Global Reach27:40 Fun Questions: Deserted Island Choices28:23 Shared Experiences: First Jobs and Pizza30:28 Relaxation Techniques and Importance of Gratitude35:52 Time Travel: Reflecting on Past Experiences38:14 Alternative Career Choices: The Thrill of Adventure39:02 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts and Contact InformationThanks for listening!Connect with Dr. Imani at:Nameen Infusion & Wellness websiteNameen Infusion & Wellness Instagram✅ Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, we answer a question we are often asked - who can start a ketamine clinic? The short answer is that it varies depending upon the individual state's regulations and the licensure of the potential clinic owner. You will learn about the differences between states with Corporate Practice of Medicine laws, in which a clinic must be majorly owned by a licensed medical professional, and those without such laws. Plus you’ll also gain an understanding of Management Service Organizations and how utilizing them can be a possible workaround for stricter states. This topic is a good example of the ever-changing nature of healthcare regulations and the growing intersection of business and medicine which we hope you enjoy.Episode 5 show notes:00:09 Introduction00:15 Who Can Start a Ketamine Clinic?00:39 Legal Disclaimer and Importance of Professional Advice01:32 Factors Determining Who Can Open a Ketamine Clinic01:56 Understanding Corporate Practice of Medicine Laws07:35 The Role of Management Service Organizations11:20 The Intersection of Business and Healthcare11:54 Conclusion: It Depends on State and Professional Status12:38 Closing RemarksThanks for listening!Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam sits down with Dr. Lara Edinger, founder of Edinger Pain Management Clinic in Los Angeles. Transitioning from a seasoned neurologist to a pioneer in pain management, Dr. Edinger shares her comprehensive journey into the niche of chronic neuropathic and musculoskeletal pain disorders. She goes in-depth at her innovative treatment approaches, including the pivotal role of ketamine therapy in treating Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS).You’ll gain practical advice on starting and managing a clinic plus be reminded of the significance of creating a patient-centric environment and building a solid support team. Beyond the operational advice, this episode is packed with Dr. Edinger's personal reflections on job creation, the transition to cash-based practices, and the inception of a non-profit to support patients.Listen, enjoy, and discover essential strategies for clinicians aspiring to venture in pain management and ketamine therapy.Episode 6 show notes:00:00 Introduction00:16 Interview with Dr. Lara Edinger: A Specialist in Chronic Pain Disorders01:31 Dr. Edinger's Journey: From Neurology to Pain Medicine02:38 Establishing Edinger Pain Management Clinic03:38 Understanding Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS)06:14 Challenges of Running a Private Practice06:14 Transitioning from Traditional Healthcare to Private Practice07:46 The Complexities of Medical Billing and Insurance12:17 The Role of Ketamine in Treating CRPS19:21 The Business Side of Running a Ketamine Clinic20:19 The Impact of Personalized Care in a Ketamine Clinic26:34 The Reality of Current Healthcare System26:48 The Rise of Cash-Based Practices26:57 Starting a Non-Profit for Complex Patients27:47 Advice for Clinicians Curious About the Space28:13 The Importance of Organization and Finding the Right People29:03 The Rewarding Aspect of Creating Jobs29:57 The Importance of Preparation and Legal Assistance30:16 The Challenges of Setting Up Different Services31:13 The Expansion of Ketamine Treatment31:54 The Importance of Medical and Psychological Clearance35:30 The Challenges and Rewards of Running a Practice36:59 The Importance of Delegation and Support39:23 Desert Island Choices and Time Travel Wishes43:41 Alternative Career Choices47:18 Final Thoughts on the Ketamine IndustryThanks for listening!Connect with Dr. Edinger at:Edinger Pain ManagementInstagramWant to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
Join us, Sam and Kim, as we delve into the vital role of self-knowledge in launching and running a thriving ketamine clinic. In this episode, we explore the three fundamental archetypes - the artist, the leader, and the entrepreneur. We'll guide you through understanding these archetypes and how they can shape your approach to building a successful team that complements your strengths.As we unpack these concepts, we also tackle a critical issue facing many physicians today - burnout. We discuss how deeper self-awareness is not only a tool for personal growth but also a powerful strategy to combat burnout in the demanding healthcare environment.Tune in to discover your primary and secondary archetypes. We're here to equip you with the insights and understanding necessary to navigate the challenges of starting and operating a successful ketamine clinic.Episode 5 show notes:00:00 Introduction to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:11 The Importance of Self-Knowledge in Running a Ketamine Clinic00:45 Understanding the Challenge of Burnout in Healthcare01:46 Exploring the Three Archetypes: Artist, Leader, and Entrepreneur03:51 Deep Dive into the Artist Archetype04:10 Deep Dive into the Leader Archetype05:16 Deep Dive into the Entrepreneur Archetype09:11 Understanding the Importance of Team Building in a Ketamine Clinic12:01 Exercises to Identify Your Archetype14:53 The Role of Personal Growth in Building a Ketamine Clinic15:51 Conclusion Thanks for listening!Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
In this episode of the Ketamine Startup Podcast, Sam interviews Dr. Leslie Koenig, a board-certified emergency physician and Navy combat veteran. Diving into her transformative journey from traditional healthcare to pioneering the ketamine infusion clinic Waybridge in Omaha, Nebraska, Dr. Koenig offers invaluable insights into integrating ketamine therapy with alternative treatments like aromatherapy. You will gain a deeper understanding of ketamine's groundbreaking role in mental health and medicine, practical advice for opening your own ketamine practice, and inspiration from Dr. Koenig's personal growth and spiritual development through her work. Discover how ketamine is reshaping the landscape of mental health treatment and what it means for the future of medicine from one of its most passionate advocatesEpisode 4 show notes:00:00 Introduction to the Ketamine Startup Podcast00:29 Interview with Dr. Leslie Koenig: Her Background and Journey01:32 Transition from Traditional Healthcare to Ketamine Infusion Clinic02:00 Exploring Integrative Medicine and the Impact of Ketamine02:51 The Role of Ketamine in Emergency Medicine06:04 The Challenges and Rewards of Setting Up a Ketamine Clinic06:14 Overcoming Fear and Judgment in the Medical Field07:38 The Power of Ketamine in Treating Suicidality and Depression07:58 The Impact of Ketamine on Veterans and Suicide Rates08:58 The Differences in Administering Ketamine in Various Settings10:56 Strategies for Success in Running a Ketamine Clinic12:27 Advice for Clinicians Looking to Open a Ketamine Clinic14:07 The Personal Growth and Spiritual Journey of Running a Ketamine Clinic26:42 The Future of Ketamine in Medicine and Mental Health28:39 Conclusion and Contact InformationConnect with Dr. Koenig at:Dr. Koenig’s InstagramDr. Koenig’s LinkedInDr. Koenig’s FacebookDr. Koenig's Youtube channelWaybridge Clinics websiteWaybridge Clinics InstagramDr. Koenig’s book - Stress Relief Survival Guide: Fast, Easy, Totally Natural Techniques & Real Life Tips From A Combat Veteran ER DoctorThanks for listening!Want to fast track launching your ketamine clinic? If so, download our free checklist.
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