The Liminal

Making sense of the killing of Charlie Kirk, its aftermath, and how to move forward

Kristin here to catch up & check in. In this episode: A note about my guest appearance on another podcast covering a personal but maybe relatable topic (linked below) An excellent book recommendation about the deconstruction movement as a prophetic voice to the church (linked below) Quick recap of a beautiful weekend at the Students of Life conference back in November Election/inauguration thoughts & how I'm moving forward Saving our energy and attention for what really matters in the days & months ahead Podcast appearance: Hyperfixed | Kristin Has Doubts (Apple Podcasts link here) Book recommendation: Invisible Jesus: A book about leaving the church and looking for Christ by Scot McKnight and Tommy Preson Phillips Music & audio by joecalderonemusic.com

In this one I talk about the frustrating disconnect between how churches could be a strong, wide-reaching force for good in the world, but so many aren't. Some churches contribute directly to the cycles of hate and violence  we see all around us. Other churches focus only on themselves. They buffer their members from the world's suffering and injustice, leaving them apathetic and complacent to harmful systems as long as it feels good to be in the in-group. Church could and should be a place from which love, justice, grace, and abundance flow outward. Not just in rhetoric, but materially. Systemically. For a while now, I've been sensing that I'm ready to move on from parsing out theological and philosophical arguments in my head. I want to move in a new direction, focusing on how to more tangibly live out my values through service and activism. In short: loving people, planet, and peace. I intend to keep drawing from my contemplative Christian roots as I do this, but I see my teammates as anyone working for love and justice in the world -- not people who ascribe to any one systematic theology and think everybody else should, too. I close by reading an essay I wrote in grad school about what it takes to move from fundamentalism to a healthy, curious, fruitful kind of faith. I hope it's helpful to someone who feels alone. If this is your vibe too, connect with us on instagram: @theliminalpodcast Music by my husband, Joe Calderone https://www.joecalderonemusic.com/

In this episode, I give an overview of Brian McLaren’s Four Stages of Faith, a really helpful model for understanding how our religious worldview or spirituality can evolve over time as we pay more and more attention to the world around us. I’ve studied under Brian’s wisdom at the Center for Action and Contemplation and have come to respect him a great deal, not just for his writings but for his example as a community advocate and activist. Brian calls the four stages Simplicity, Complexity, Perplexity, and Harmony. They represent the evolution from dualistic, black-and-white thinking in Stage 1, to a gamified winner/achiever mindset in Stage 2, to the disillusionment and chronic skepticism of deconstruction/the wilderness in Stage 3, to the generous and expansive love of Stage 4. I give my own spin on these four stages, and I share about how contemplative Christianity has been a soft place to land for me throughout Stages 3 and 4, even as I impatiently long for more Stage 4 communities to sprout up and give us a place to belong again.   Things I mention in the episode: The PDF table of the four stages: http://brianmclaren.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Four-Stages-1.pdf Brian’s podcast where he explores 13 cognitives biases that stunt our spiritual growth in Seasons 1 and 2: Learning How to See Sarah Bessey’s new book that feels like a cozy blanket and a warm cup of tea: Field Notes for the Wilderness As always, the music and sound for the pod is provided by my husband Joe Calderone. You can check out his composition and production work at https://www.joecalderonemusic.com/ Hang with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theliminalpodcast/

This episode is an overview of themes around Christian Universalism: the position that a loving and just God could never punish finite sin with infinite torment, and that salvation and reconciliation will ultimately reach everyone. For this episode, I read David Bentley Hart's magnum opus of a book, "That All Shall Be Saved," plus critical reviews and related scholarly commentaries of its themes. I think Hart's book is a text that will shine in history as a desperately needed correction to longstanding bad hermeneutics and bad witness that are formed by, and help perpetuate, ghoulish ideas about hell and thus the nature of God. I give an overview of eschatological positions in (what I hope is) a very approachable format, and I touch on related topics like original sin and the fall. So much of faith deconstruction is disillusionment and disappointment. But in Universalism, I find my imagination blossoming with hope again, picturing what a Christianity of gardeners instead of gatekeepers could really mean for our metaphorically and literally burning planet.