Claim OwnershipThe Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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Welcome to The Magnificent Others, the podcast where host Billy Corgan engages in profound conversations with extraordinary individuals who have reached the pinnacle of success in their respective fields. In each episode, Billy delves into the stories and insights of high achievers, exploring the multifaceted journey that leads to greatness.
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2Billy Corgan sits down with guitar icon Vernon Reid — founder of Living Colour and the Grammy-winning force behind miles of electric innovation — for a high-voltage conversation about rewriting the rules of rock. Vernon traces his path from discovering Coltrane to NYC’s avant-garde scene, as well as the precient rise of the Black Rock Coalition. He opens up about the lightning-strike creation of “Cult of Personality,” the surreal shockwaves of their SNL performance, and the pressures that come with success — from label politics to the creative toll on the band. They dive into AI’s existential threat to art, and how the “holy ghost” of a live show can turn a stage into a spiritual event.
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Billy Corgan sits down with legendary rock producer Jack Douglas for an intimate, no-frills conversation that runs straight through the heart of classic rock history—from John Lennon and Yoko Ono, Imagine, and Double Fantasy to Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, Alice Cooper, the New York Dolls, and beyond. Jack tells the wild story of Lennon recognizing him from a Liverpool newspaper, pulling him into the studio to escape Phil Spector. He breaks down the making of Aerosmith’s first three albums, why some iconic solos on Get Your Wings weren’t Joe Perry, and how Cheap Trick at Budokan (actually Osaka) became a power-pop landmark through sheer studio ingenuity. Along the way, you get rare behind-the-glass insight into working with George Harrison, David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Bob Dylan, and what great producers really do: protect the song, the band, and the vibe.
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Billy Corgan sits down with Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Simon Kirke (Free, Bad Company) for a sharp, funny, and revealing dive into 50 years of rock majesty. Simon traces his journey from growing up in poverty to the lightning-bolt moment drums grabbed him, the fateful coin flip that led him to Paul Kossoff and the creation of “All Right Now,” and then to forming Bad Company with Paul Rodgers and Mick Ralphs. Together, they dive into the grooves of Stax vs. Motown, the genius of Al Jackson Jr., Ringo Starr, and Charlie Watts, and the art of serving the song rather than showing off chops. Along the way, Simon shares stories about Jimmy Page, John Bonham, Steve Marriott, and Queen. It’s a masterclass in rock history and rhythm.
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In this powerful and emotional conversation, Wendy Dio joins Billy Corgan to share the brilliance of her late husband, Ronnie James Dio, from their first meeting at the Rainbow to the creation of Blackmore’s Rainbow, following Ozzy in Black Sabbath, and his breakthrough with his own band, Dio. Wendy reveals how Ronnie stayed true to his vision, refusing to chase hits, and how his humility, brilliance, and devotion to fans made him a legend. She and Billy discuss the origins of the devil horns, the making of “Holy Diver” and “Rainbow in the Dark,” and the enduring legacy Wendy continues through the Ronnie James Dio Stand Up and Shout Cancer Fund.
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In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Billy Corgan sits down with world-renowned chef Curtis Duffy to explore the extraordinary journey behind his Michelin-starred career. From a childhood marked by tragedy to becoming one of America’s most celebrated culinary artists, Duffy opens up about how loss shaped his drive, creativity, and obsession with excellence. They dive into the discipline of the kitchen, the meaning of artistry, the pressure of perfection, and what it truly takes to be great at something. Duffy shares why there are no off days in his kitchen, and how each season feels like writing a new record.
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In this emotional continuation, Rudy Sarzo opens up to BillyCorgan about the heartbreaking moment he lost his bandmate and friend Randy Rhoads in a tragic plane crash, and why Ozzy had to keep moving to survive. They revisit the origins of Metal Health, Quiet Riot’s groundbreaking album that became the first debut heavy metal record to hit #1, tracing its roots to Rhoads’ influence, Slade covers, and LA’s Sunset Strip and how success, MTV pressure, and bad deals fractured Quiet Riot. Sarzo also reflects on the Ozzy/Sabbath farewell that brought everything full circle.
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Billy Corgan sits down with legendary bassist Rudy Sarzo for Part 1 of a sweeping, emotional journey from Havana to Hollywood, escaping Castro’s Cuba, discovering the Beatles, and finding identity through rock. Sarzo recounts his path from Miami and New Jersey club bands to Chicago glam dreams and, finally, Los Angeles, where Quiet Riot, Randy Rhoads, and a fateful call from Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne led to a whirlwind “Crazy Train” audition that changed his life. Along the way, he shares stories of faith, spiritual awakening, and the belief that rock’s true power lies in its brotherhood and integrity.
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Billy Corgan sits down with screen icon Malcolm McDowell for a masterclass on craft and legacy—from Lindsay Anderson’s “If” to becoming Stanley Kubrick’s Alex in “A Clockwork Orange”. McDowell shares the real casting story, Kubrick’s process, why “2001” still stuns, and how a single “trance” look became an era-defining image. They dig into Shakespeare and Olivier lore, Eric Burdon, the redemption of “Caligula”, the charm of “Time After Time”, and hard-won wisdom on dodging typecasting and surviving fame.
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Billy Corgan sits down with guitar virtuoso John 5 for a charged conversation about music, mastery, and survival. John opens up about his private KISS museum, the TV-music desert that shaped his Telecaster tone, and a grind honed through Rudy Sarzo, Bob Marlette, Rob Halford, and David Lee Roth. He gets raw about grief, discipline, and the ritual of running full Mötley Crüe sets at dawn—how stepping into that legendary band pushed him to new physical and creative extremes—while revisiting Eddie Van Halen’s genius and the chaos of the Marilyn Manson years.
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Billy Corgan sits down with Yungblud (Dom Harrison) at a pivotal career moment to unpack one of the rarest moves in music: crossing over from pop to rock and making it stick. From storming America’s legendary stages like the Fillmore and Palladium to earning Ozzy & Sharon Osbourne’s blessing in Birmingham, Yungblud reflects on why authenticity can’t be faked, why community matters more than clout, and how rock is finding new life with a new generation. The conversation goes deep into the cultural divide between UK and US audiences, the vision behind his IDOLS era, and his bold choice to re-record the album live at Berlin’s Hansa Studios (home to Bowie, Iggy Pop, U2, Depeche Mode) and his explosive collaboration with Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler and Joe Perry.
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Billy Corgan continues his deep dive with Daryl Hall in Part 2, where Daryl opens up about his hitmaking philosophy (“don’t think about it”), the unexpected re-release of She’s Gone, and sharing the stage with icons like David Bowie and Stevie Wonder. He reflects on the creation of Rich Girl, the pressures from Tommy Mottola and Atlantic Records, and the turning point that led Hall & Oates into their legendary 80s run. The conversation gets candid about fame and the industry politics that left Hall feeling “trapped” even at the height of success. He also shares how Live From Daryl’s House became his purest form of self-expression and explains why restoring old homes feels like “living inside art.”
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Billy Corgan joins Daryl Hall at home for Part 1 of an expansive conversation on the craft of collaboration, the roots that shaped him, and the long road to “Sara Smile.” Daryl retraces his path from doo-wop street corners and Philly R&B to early sessions with Gamble & Huff and Thom Bell, the Atlantic years with the legendary Ahmet Ertegun and Arif Mardin, a left-turn album with Todd Rundgren, and the creative pivot that set the stage for Hall & Oates’ breakout at RCA. Along the way, he shares candid thoughts on resisting labels, finding joy in collaboration, and what it means to move seamlessly between genres.
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Recorded live at Madame Zuzu’s Tea Shop and Art Studio in Chicago, Billy Corgan trades stories with DEVO for a lively in-person taping: the ’78 SNL shocker, how de-evolution sprang from art-school mischief, Kent State, and ’60s politics; Neil Young and Human Highway; legendary manager Elliot Roberts; Eno/Bowie studio friction; MTV, “Whip It,” and the corporate machine; General Boy stories; plus AI—the most DEVO tool yet—and why the human touch still wins. A warm, funny night that shows DEVO’s playful subversion still connects across generations.
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Billy Corgan sits down with John Cowsill (The Cowsills) for a deep-cut tour through ’60s pop history, from kitchen-table harmonies and four-set club nights as grade-schoolers to drumming as a nine-year-old on Ed Sullivan. He shares what really happened in the studio on “The Rain, the Park & Other Things” and “Hair,” and the family dynamics that fueled and fractured a once-in-a-generation vocal blend. They also trace John’s path from early Johnny Nash sessions to decades with the Beach Boys, a new duo with wife Vicki Peterson (The Bangles), and fronting The Smithereens.
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Chicago meets Chicago as Billy Corgan sits down with Marilu Henner to unpack her highly superior autobiographical memory (H.S.A.M.) that can turn a Tuesday from 1972 into a living scene and why her story is bigger than a party trick. From her Logan Square roots (beauty shop in the kitchen, dance school in the backyard), the champions who changed her path, Taxi’s 112 episodes, 112 Friday parties, open-door table reads, and Andy Kaufman’s singular orbit. The pair connect feeling to art including the rain-slick Chicago moment that helped spark “1979.” Old Hollywood drifts through, the Andrews Sisters’ precision harmonies and Burt Reynolds’ desert circus in Cannonball Run II before the conversation lands on health, longevity, and service.
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In what may be one of his final interviews, soul legend Sam Moore (of Sam & Dave) sits down with Billy Corgan for a candid, career-spanning conversation—covering church-born vocals, the Stax vs. Motown divide, and why real bands beat backing tracks. He revisits the accidental origins of Sam & Dave, the studio alchemy with Isaac Hayes and David Porter, and sessions behind “Hold On, I’m Comin’” and the iconic “Play it, Steve!” on “Soul Man.” Moore speaks frankly about industry politics, DJ gatekeeping, tours with Otis Redding, the M.G.’s (Duck Dunn, Al Jackson, Steve Cropper) and his long road from addiction to sobriety.
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Billy Corgan sits down with Steve Vai for a wild ride through arenas, rehearsal rooms, and beehives. They swap stories about outlandish ’80s stage antics, the “gunslinger” spirit of guitar duels, and how obsession, not discipline, fuels mastery. Vai breaks down his early passion for composing, his years with Frank Zappa, the hire wire act of replacing Yngwie Malmsteen and following Eddie Van Halen, plus how to survive the smoky Zen of David Lee Roth during the ‘shred’ years.
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In this episode Billy Corgan sits down with musical visionary Danny Elfman. Together they trace his journey from the underground theatrics of the Mystic Knights to fronting Oingo Boingo, and on to scoring over 100 iconic films including Batman, Beetlejuice, and The Nightmare Before Christmas. Danny opens up about his unconventional path into composing, the challenges of being underestimated in both rock and classical circles, working with Tim Burton, and why he thrives on creative resistance. In the end, it’s a conversation about art, identity, and what it means to finally feel seen on your own terms.
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In this conversation, I sit down with Elliot Mintz, the man who became John Lennon and Yoko Ono’s closest confidant during their most radical and reclusive years. Elliot shares how a single radio interview turned into hundreds of late-night calls, secret meetings in Ojai, and a front-row seat to Lennon’s life after the Beatles. We talk about government surveillance, artistic risk, and the quiet cost of fame. Elliot reflects on John’s complex relationships with Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan, the making of Some Time in New York City, and the moment John handed him a test pressing and told him to “break the record.
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In this episode of TMO, Billy Corgan sits down with songwriting legend Paul Williams for a free‑wheeling conversation that spans astrology, Williams’ nomadic childhood and early hormone therapy, his breakthrough at A&M Records, and the creation of “We’ve Only Just Begun”, sessions with the Wrecking Crew, trading quips with Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show, Williams’ roles in Battle for the Planet of the Apes and Brian De Palma’s cult classic Phantom of the Paradise, and his memorable “Love Boat” theme. Both reflect on struggles with addiction: Williams’ 1989 cocaine‑induced breakdown that led to long‑term sobriety and Corgan’s experience with his father’s substance abuse.
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Vernon Reed is an icon, one of the all-time greatest rockers. Canadian fan here from day one.
EPIC FAIL
can you please fix the audio on Rudy Sarzo pt 2??
NO AUDIO PLEASE FIX
well at least Billy finally shut up and let somebody else talk
Very interesting journey for Rudy
Glad to hear I'm not the only Daryl Hall fan out there
that shit got weird quick...I had no idea
john5, telecaster, Billycorgan never heard of this cat I must confess, but I'm already a fan, diving into his catalog now. thanks
Eric Burdon would be the ultimate guest
Once again, your choice of guests is impeccable!
Great interviews!
Rogan's a toad
Carrot Top is one of the all-time best.
Billy possesses brilliant interviewing skills
Fantastic!
I used to hate smashing pumpkins but I find billy fascinating, from a couple of podcasts i've seen him on.