Why does social proof actually matter? What’s the psychology behind FOMO? Behavioral science legend Richard Shotton is back, and he’s dropping some of the most practical psychology-backed tactics marketers can use today. Richard and Daniel break down the biases that shape real-world buying behavior, including why social proof works far better when it’s specific and localized, AND how to make customers draw their own conclusions. You’ll also learn: - The subtle language shift between “out of stock” and “sold out” that changes irritation levels by 15% - Why humor dramatically boosts every brand metric thanks to the Halo Effect - Apple’s use of concrete language and how to make your messaging 4x more memorable If you want your Marketing to work better with zero extra budget, this conversation is for you. Optimizely helps thousands of brands create, personalize, and optimize exceptional digital experiences. See how Optimizely Opal, our AI agent orchestration platform, automates real marketing work and helps teams scale their impact at https://www.optimizely.com/ai/?utm_campaign=PS-GL-11-2025-MARKETING-MILLENNIALS-PODCAST&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=marketingmillennials&utm_content=opal-agent-orchestration Follow Richard: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-shotton Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What if urgency is the only lever you’re not pulling? Daniel and Jay break down why “always available” offers quietly kill conversions and how time-based urgency can turn passive audiences into decisive buyers. They unpack real-world plays from ecom and B2B, including how a 30-minute discount window drove action without extra ad spend, why expiring content outperforms evergreen resources, and how to use deadlines to close the year strong. Plus, they share easy urgency tests you can run right now. No new tools, no bigger budget, just smarter timing. If you’re a Marketer trying to drive results before the calendar flips, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
So, what does Marketing ops actually look like? Atlassian’s Head of Lifecycle Marketing Ops Kelly Jo Horton joins Daniel to break down what ops actually is, why it’s so complex, and how high-performing teams are evolving the function for 2026 and beyond. She explains why MOPS isn’t “just sending an email,” why process is everything, and why marketers need to stop treating ops like a drive-thru and start treating it like a Michelin-star kitchen. She also reveals how Atlassian structures its ops organization and why she believes the MQL is officially dead. You’ll also learn: > What modern Marketing Ops actually does and why it varies by company > How AI can automate repetitive ops tasks (like list cleaning and lead investigations) > How Atlassian uses Jira, Confluence, Slack bots, and Loom to run ops like engineering This is for anyone in Marketing, rev ops, or GTM who wants to build a scalable system…and for every Marketer who’s ever said “it’s just an email.” Easily record and share AI-powered video messages with your teammates and customers to supercharge productivity at https://www.loom.com/ Follow Kelly Jo: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyjohorton/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Annual planning is where great marketing teams separate themselves from the rest…and Customer.io CMO Jason Lyman joins Daniel to break down exactly how to do it. Jason shares the Play to Win framework he uses, the biggest mistakes marketers make during planning season, and how AI now powers his planning workflow. And, how does Customer.io use stress-testing strategies to identify lifecycle opportunities? You’ll also learn: Why most marketing plans fail and how to fix yours. • How to create strategic pillars your whole org can align around • The 70/20/10 model for balancing safe bets and big swings Whether you're a CMO, a team leader, or an IC who wants to level up, this is the episode for you. Customer.io helps brands turn data into personalized messages that actually connect, across email, SMS, and beyond. Today, over 7,800 brands trust Customer.io to power their messaging. Visit: https://try.customer.io/paid/trial?utm_medium=ads&utm_source=marketingmillennials&utm_campaign=november_podcast Follow Jason: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-lyman1/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What if everything you believe about email marketing is wrong? Daniel and Jay are here to blow up the biggest myths everyone still repeats, from “best send times” to “open rates don’t matter.” They unpack the five email lessons they’re taking into 2026, including why low-lift CTAs spark real replies, how verified subscriber data reveals your true ICP, and the deliverability trap hiding inside your domain frequency report. And, how do you use AI without sounding like a robot? Turns out, it’s easier than you think. If you’re a Marketer planning to scale your email efforts next year, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Why do the boldest ideas drive the biggest business wins? Live from Marketingland 2025, Nick Tran (ex-TikTok, Hulu, Samsung) breaks down all things brand and creative with Amanda Slavin (author, and co-founder of Future Frequency). You’ll learn: > Why crises often spark the most innovative creative work > How to know when bold ideas are brilliant…and when they're just noise > The myth of chasing trends vs. the real meaning of cultural relevance Whether you're a CMO, a creator, or someone sitting on a brave idea you’re scared to pitch, this conversation will push you to rethink what “bold” really means…and why the riskiest idea might just be your smartest one. Customer.io is an AI-powered customer engagement platform that helps teams turn first-party data into personalized messages at scale. It enables teams to easily create and send communications across email, SMS, push, in-app, and webhooks to drive engagement and growth. Today, over 7,800 brands trust Customer.io to power their messaging. Click here for more. Follow Nick: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholastran/ Follow Amanda: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amslavin/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
How do Product-Led Growth (PLG) and Sales-Led Growth (SLG) actually work together…instead of competing against each other? In this Marketingland 2025 session, ClickUp’s COO Gaurav Agarwal and Global VP of Marketing Kyle Coleman break down why the “PLG vs. SLG” debate is a false dichotomy, and how the most successful companies blend both to drive real revenue impact. From navigating budget decisions to building demand, delivering intuitive product experiences, and integrating AI in ways that actually help (instead of over-promising), they dig into the mechanics of modern growth engines. And, should incremental ROI really be your real north star? If you're building, optimizing, or scaling a modern GTM engine, this conversation is for YOU. Optimizely helps thousands of brands create, personalize, and optimize exceptional digital experiences. See how Optimizely Opal, our AI agent orchestration platform, automates real marketing work and helps teams scale their impact at https://www.optimizely.com/ai/?utm_campaign=PS-GL-11-2025-MARKETING-MILLENNIALS-PODCAST&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=marketingmillennials&utm_content=opal-agent-orchestration Follow Gaurav: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gauravragarwal/ Follow Kyle: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyletcoleman/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Want to prepare for social in 2026 but have no clue where to start? Daniel and Jay break down what they’ve learned about social in 2025 and what to anticipate in 2026. From jumps in AI to boosting posts, things are changing…and fast. They explain: > Why boosting “loser” organic posts may not be the push you think it is > The power of hero images > Why you need a commenting AND reply strategy If you’re a Marketer planning for the upcoming year, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What really drives explosive organic audience growth in 2025: algorithms, content hacks, or something deeper? From Marketingland 2025, Sophie Miller, founder of Pretty Little Marketer and the creator behind a 600,000-strong community across Instagram and LinkedIn, breaks down the visibility, shareability, and social SEO strategies behind her meteoric rise. Sophie shares the real story of how she went from overwhelmed university student to full-time creator with one of the most engaged marketing communities online. She unpacks: -The strategic “visibility opportunities” that fuel organic growth (and why it’s not about being everywhere) -How to design content that gets shared — from emotional triggers to identity-based resonance -Why social search and platform-specific SEO are becoming just as important as shares -The role of “thin content,” clear bios, and frictionless profile design in converting discovery into follows -How to use your existing audience to reach their audience — and build a community that sticks around for years Whether you’re building a personal brand, growing a startup’s social presence, or trying to break through on saturated platforms, this conversation will challenge how you think about reach, retention, and what it truly takes to build a loyal audience from zero. CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers. Visit https://www.callrail.com/proveit?utm_campaign=q4_2025_marketing_millennials_podcast&utm_medium=thirdparty_advertising&utm_source=marketingmillennials to check it out. Follow Sophie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiealicemiller/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What really scales a modern brand: product or performance? From Marketingland 2025, Ari Murray sits down with growth powerhouse Stefani O’Sullivan (STAUD, Savage X Fenty, Moda Operandi, Chanel) for a deep dive into how today’s most resilient brands actually grow. Stefani breaks down the truth behind two very different paths: Product-led growth (STAUD, RHODE, category disruptors) and Marketing-led growth (DTC engines powered by paid media). They unpack: > The real tradeoffs between product-first and performance-first models > How product intuition, merchandising, and customer feedback shape long-term equity > When to expand into CTV, OOH, retail media, and how to know it’s actually working > Why consistency matters, but context matters more Whether you’re leading a growth team, scaling your first brand, or rethinking how product and performance should truly work together, this conversation will challenge your assumptions…and reveal why the smartest path to scale might not be the one you expect. CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers. Visit https://www.callrail.com/proveit?utm_campaign=q4_2025_marketing_millennials_podcast&utm_medium=thirdparty_advertising&utm_source=marketingmillennials to check it out. Follow Ari: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arimurray/ Follow Stefani: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefaniosullivan/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Want more replies, but all you hear are crickets? Daniel and Jay unpack one of the most slept-on tactics in email and social right now: getting your audience to reply to your campaigns. It’s simple, it’s human, and it’s about to blow up as AI makes responding at scale easier than ever. They explain why reply-based engagement is becoming a cheat code for deliverability, how “just reply with a word” outperforms any form fill, and why adding Easter eggs or lightweight personal questions can instantly tell you who’s actually reading your emails. They break down: > The reply-rate signal that keeps you out of spam and in the inbox > The Easter-egg trick that proves people read to the middle of your emails > Why “reply with GUIDE” beats every landing page for conversions If you’re a Marketer looking for an easy win to boost engagement, deliverability, and conversions before 2026, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Your analytics might be lying to you. Snap’s EVP Sid Malhotra joins Daniel to unpack what marketers still get wrong about measurement, why last-click thinking is failing modern buyers, and how to build smarter growth systems in a world where customers don’t follow clean conversion paths anymore.Sid shares why Snapchat’s nearly one-billion-person audience behaves differently than other platforms, why so many of your future customers aren’t on Meta or Google, and how marketers can finally fix the hidden gaps in attribution…including the “Hot Wheels Problem” that explains why your analytics are lying to you. You’ll learn: > Why your next best customer is probably not where you think > How impressions, long-form content, and non-click behavior actually drive purchases > The exact 3-step playbook for testing a new channel like Snapchat If you're planning holiday spend, testing new channels for 2025, or trying to make sense of modern attribution, this episode is for you. Optimizely helps thousands of brands create, personalize, and optimize exceptional digital experiences. See how Optimizely Opal, our AI agent orchestration platform, automates real marketing work and helps teams scale their impact at optimizely.com Follow Sid: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malhotrasidharth/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What happens when you treat brand like a growth channel and not a guessing game? You get Chubbies, one of the most iconic DTC brands of the last decade, built on humor, short shorts, and measurable creativity. As co-founder of Chubbies and now the brain behind Marathon Data Co, Preston Rutherford has spent the last decade proving that brand and performance are the same thing. He and Daniel break down how to make brand measurable, how to grow through community and content, and why the best marketing always starts with being interesting. You’ll learn: > How to measure brand like a performance marketer (and make it pay off) > Why community and creativity drive long-term profitability > How to escape the discount trap and grow sustainably If you’re tired of the “brand vs performance” debate and want a practical blueprint for building something people love (and that actually makes money), this episode is for you. CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers. Visit callrail.com Follow Preston: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonr/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
Tired of writing emails no one reads…or worse, emails no one clicks? Daniel and Jay break down an email tactic that’s stupid simple but wildly underrated: how using animated GIFs can instantly lift your click-through rates and make any email impossible to ignore. They explain why GIFs still outperform video in email, how to theme them for maximum relevance (especially during November–December), and how AI + free tools like Canva make creating them a three-minute job, even if you “don’t know what you’re doing.” They break down: > Why animated GIFs consistently boost click-throughs by 20% > The seasonal window where GIF performance skyrockets > How AI can create, crop, and embed GIFs for you instantly If you’re a Marketer looking for an easy way to boost email performance this quarter, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
What happens when an engineer falls in love with marketing? You get Sorin Patilinet, the data-driven marketer reshaping how the world’s biggest brands think about creativity, effectiveness, and growth. After 20 years working in marketing science at Mars and PepsiCo, Sorin has one mission: to help marketers stop chasing vanity metrics and start measuring what actually drives results. He’s out to prove that great marketing is about more than just ROI. It’s about understanding human behavior. Sorin and Daniel dive into what it really takes to make marketing effective in 2025: from breaking silos between pricing, distribution, and brand strategy, to using neuroscience to craft ads people actually remember. If you’ve ever had to prove your marketing budget, defend your creative, or show the true impact of brand building, this episode will change the way you think about measuring success. Customer.io is an AI-powered customer engagement platform that helps teams turn first-party data into personalized messages at scale. It enables teams to easily create and send communications across email, SMS, push, in-app, and webhooks to drive engagement and growth. Today, over 7,800 brands trust Customer.io to power their messaging. Follow Sorin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patilinet/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com
What makes launches actually successful? Ramli John, Founder of Delight Path and B2B author, joins Tamara to break down how marketers can apply his approach to any big launch - from content to products to thought leadership - by focusing on transformation, not promotion. Instead of hitting publish and hoping for sales, Ramli built a paid Readers Club months before launch, tested his ideas like beta features, hosted a live virtual summit, and sold 77% of his books direct-to-reader…all while creating a loyal fan base that keeps growing long after release day. You’ll also learn: > How to use community and early feedback to build better launches > Why direct distribution beats every algorithm > The secret to making your content feel more human in an AI-driven world If you’ve ever wondered how to create demand before you launch or how to make your audience feel invested in your success, this episode is for you. Follow Ramli: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramlijohn/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/
What if you could increase your engagement before the year ends…without creating anything new? Daniel and Jay drop a content hack that’s stupid simple but insanely effective: how to use your “most” moments to crush year-end marketing. They reveal how to turn your existing data into scroll-stopping roundups (your most downloaded, most viewed, most shared) and why this psychology-driven approach works every single time. Plus, you can use AI to do all the heavy lifting in minutes. They break down: > Why “most” is the most powerful word in marketing > How to repurpose your top-performing content with AI > The end-of-year mindset every audience falls for If you’re a marketer, creator, or brand looking for a no-cost, high-impact way to finish strong in 2025, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com
What if the “perfect” marketing career path doesn’t exist? Tamara sits down with Harvey Lee, a marketer who’s done it all (from launching the first Xbox to touring with rock stars) to unpack how curiosity, reinvention, and trying new things shaped his wildly nontraditional career. Harvey shares how to make sense of a “messy” resume and why most marketers are climbing the wrong ladder. And, what does it mean to define success? He breaks down the difference between acquisition and alignment, how to find your transferable niche without boxing yourself in, and why the smartest marketers stop waiting for permission and start leading with action. If you’ve ever felt behind, burned out, or boxed in by your job title, this episode is a must-listen. Harvey’s advice will help you build a career that fits you…not the other way around. Customer.io is an AI-powered customer engagement platform that helps teams turn first-party data into personalized messages at scale. It enables teams to easily create and send communications across email, SMS, push, in-app, and webhooks to drive engagement and growth. Today, over 7,800 brands trust Customer.io to power their messaging. Follow Harvey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mr-harvey-lee/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com
B2B content doesn’t have to be boring. Just ask Adam McQueen, the mind behind Klue’s Compete Network, one of the first true B2B media arms built inside a SaaS brand. In this episode, Tamara flips the script on her former producer to unpack how Klue turned a traditional marketing team into a content powerhouse. Adam shares the early vision behind working with creators before “B2B influencer” was even a thing, how to design shows that are both entertaining and tied to business outcomes, and why the best marketing teams think like media companies. They also break down the behind-the-scenes of Ready for Launch, from concept to distribution strategy, and reveal the systems that make creative marketing sustainable for small teams. If you’ve ever wondered how to build content your audience actually wants (or how to prove the ROI of creativity) this conversation is your playbook. Follow Adam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mcqueen-%F0%9F%94%8E-032a5b10b/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com
What if you could send an email to your entire LinkedIn following…without paying a dime or fighting the algorithm? Daniel and Jay are back with another Bathroom Break to drop a marketing hack you’ll want to steal: how to launch and grow a LinkedIn newsletter that actually drives conversions. Daniel reveals how The Marketing Millennials used this strategy to get 800+ event signups for free, while Jay shares the wild story of almost getting banned from LinkedIn for pushing it too far. They break down: > The exact steps to launch your own LinkedIn newsletter > Why it's the only thing on social media that beats the algorithm > How to repurpose your email content for maximum reach If you’re a marketer, creator, or founder looking for underpriced attention and inbox access without ad spend, this one’s for you. 🚽 Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com