The Moving On Method® Podcast

What if the secret to thriving after divorce isn’t about pushing harder, but learning when to let go? In this powerful conversation, Amanda Goetz joins Michelle Dempsey-Multack to unpack toxic grit, the hidden cost of overperformance, and how divorced and single mothers can reclaim energy, clarity, and joy without burning out. Listeners will walk away with practical frameworks for balance, permission to prioritize themselves, and strategies for rewriting outdated scripts about womanhood, motherhood, and success. What You’ll Learn: Why toxic grit keeps women trapped in cycles of guilt, overwork, and exhaustion How Amanda’s Character Theory helps you separate and align the different versions of yourself, mom, professional, partner, and more The power of transition sequences to reset your energy and reduce overstimulation in parenting and work Why outsourcing certain tasks (the “sanity tax”) can be essential for single parents How to navigate guilt, societal expectations, and scripts handed down by family or culture 04:12 – Amanda shares her journey from a small-town upbringing to building a career in tech and marketing while navigating divorce. 11:58 – The hidden weight of toxic grit and why traditional “lean in” culture fails single mothers. 18:20 – Introducing Character Theory, a framework to understand the multiple roles we play and how misalignment leads to burnout. 24:37 – Practical strategies for creating transition sequences that shift your energy between work, parenting, and personal life. 31:15 – The “sanity tax” and how investing in help can protect your well-being and your children’s stability. 36:42 – Reframing guilt and learning to ask: Whose voice am I hearing when shame or doubt creeps in? 40:10 – Amanda’s insights on mosquito tasks, 10-10-10 decision making, and reducing cognitive overload. Meet The Guest: Amanda Goetz is an author, CMO, and founder whose upcoming book, Toxic Grit redefines resilience and self-leadership for women. A divorced mother of three, she blends personal experience with business acumen to empower women to pursue ambition without self-sacrifice. She is also the new host of the Girl Boss podcast, reimagined as Ambition 2.0. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned Character Theory – understanding the multiple identities within us and how to align them Transition Sequences – practical rituals to reset energy when shifting roles Sanity Tax – reframing outsourcing as a necessity, not a luxury 10-10-10 Framework – assessing urgency and significance before reacting Mosquito Task List – capturing small tasks to reduce cognitive load Closing Insight: “Permission is power. When we give ourselves permission to rest, delegate, and prioritize joy, we break free from the toxic cycles of guilt and overperformance.” Connect with Amanda: LikedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandagoetz/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theamandagoetz/ Join The Moving On Collective! A safe, judgment-free support group experience for divorced and divorcing parents: https://bit.ly/MichelleCommunity Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep266-amanda-goetz-reinvention Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Divorce can feel overwhelming, especially when money is involved. In this empowering conversation, divorce coach Michelle Dempsey-Multack and Sylvia Guinan, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), break down the most important financial steps every divorcing woman needs to know. From understanding hidden assets to protecting your children’s financial future, this episode delivers clarity and confidence when you need it most. What You’ll Learn: How to identify and protect yourself from financial abuse during separation. The critical first questions to ask your divorce attorney about assets, spending, and hidden accounts. Why a financial affidavit matters, and how to complete it without fear or second-guessing. The pros and cons of keeping the marital home and planning for future expenses like college funds and retirement. How a CDFA can help you create a sustainable financial plan and avoid costly settlement mistakes 02:10 – Why money fears are the #1 stressor in divorce, and how to take the first step toward financial clarity. 09:25 – Recognizing signs of financial abuse and reclaiming control. 15:18 – The truth about financial affidavits and why honest numbers empower you. 23:40 – When to fight for the house, and when to let it go. 30:55 – The hidden costs of divorce most people overlook. 36:12 – Sylvia’s strategy for building a trusted professional team to protect your future. 41:30 – Final financial planning tips to move forward with confidence. Meet the Guest: Sylvia Guinan is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst with Wells Fargo Advisors who specializes in guiding women through the financial realities of divorce. Her expertise helps clients make informed decisions, avoid hidden pitfalls, and secure a confident path forward Tools & Strategies Mentioned: Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA): Expert support to evaluate assets, tax implications, and settlement scenarios. Financial Affidavit Tips: How to accurately document expenses and protect your lifestyle. Team-Based Divorce Planning: The value of combining legal, financial, and emotional support. Closing Insight: “There’s no price for your freedom. Be brave, find your truth, and remember, you deserve a financial plan that reflects your worth.” – Sylvia Guinan Explore "Money & Moving On," our new guide to financial freedom after divorce: https://bit.ly/MoneyMovePod Join The Moving On Collective! A safe, judgment-free support group experience for divorced and divorcing parents: https://bit.ly/MichelleCommunity Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempseyWebsite - https://michelledempsey.com/Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep265-divorce-financial-planning Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Resentment is a natural, but draining, part of single parent life. In this empowering episode of The Moving On Method®, Michelle Dempsey-Multack opens up about the hidden mental load of solo parenting, the quiet envy of watching partnered friends get a “break,” and the practical self-care strategies that keep resentment from taking root. Listeners will learn how to name the feeling, release it, and reclaim their energy and joy as a single parent What You’ll Learn: Why resentment shows up in single parenthood, and how to recognize it before it overwhelms you Daily self-care practices (sleep hygiene, gentle movement, nourishing meals) that lower stress hormones and quiet negative emotions How to reframe single parent life to reduce comparison, jealousy, and the “why me” mindset Ways to ask for help and build a supportive community without guilt or shame Why releasing resentment strengthens your relationship with your children and models emotional resilience Episode Highlights: 00:00 – Naming resentment and understanding why it’s normal 03:12 – The invisible mental load single parents carry every day 06:47 – How resentment lives in the nervous system and drains your energy 09:22 – Practical self-care strategies to reset your body and mind 12:15 – Movement, breathing, and morning routines to release tension 14:30 – Reframing single parenthood and calling in your support system Meet the Host: Michelle Dempsey-Multack is a certified divorce and co-parenting specialist, author, and the creator of The Moving On Method®, guiding parents toward resilience, self-care, and healthy post-divorce family dynamics. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: Sleep hygiene routines to promote deeper rest and reduce irritability Gentle movement practices like yoga, stretching, and evening walks to clear resentment from the nervous system Breathwork for immediate nervous-system regulation Community care: reframing asking for help as a sign of strength, not weakness Closing Insight “Resentment is like swallowing poison and hoping it affects someone else, it only hurts you. Naming it, nurturing yourself, and letting others support you transforms exhaustion into empowerment.” Join The Moving On Collective! A safe, judgment-free support group experience for divorced and divorcing parents: https://bit.ly/MichelleCommunity Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep264-single-parent-resentment-care Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if the very thing you’re clinging to in co-parenting, the need for control, is what’s keeping you from peace? In this episode, Michelle Dempsey-Multack unpacks why control in co-parenting is an illusion, how expectations create unnecessary heartache, and what true surrender looks like for divorced parents. Listeners will learn how to shift from frustration to freedom and create a calmer, more resilient environment for their children. What You’ll Learn: Why co-parents crave control after divorce and how it impacts anxiety The difference between healthy influence and harmful attempts to control How to respond when your ex behaves in ways you can’t change Tools for modeling resilience and stability for your children A practical exercise to release control and focus on what really matters Episode Highlights: 00:00 – Why control feels like the only safety net after divorce 02:05 – The truth: you can’t control your ex, your child’s emotions, or transitions 05:15 – How expectations create self-fulfilling frustration 08:40 – What letting go really looks like in day-to-day co-parenting 11:25 – Surrender as freedom: shifting energy into peace, healing, and presence 13:30 – Final reflection: modeling resilience for your children Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: The “Expectation Audit” Exercise – writing down one thing you can’t control in co-parenting, and one thing you can control. Modeling Resilience Framework – showing kids strength and calm through action rather than reacting to negativity. Closing Insight: “Your power as a parent doesn’t come from controlling every variable; it comes from modeling grace, resilience, and love.” Letting go of control isn’t giving up, it’s reclaiming peace. Take a deep breath, release what isn’t yours to manage, and focus on what truly matters: showing up for your children with stability and love. Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep263-letting-go-of-control-in-co-parenting Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you rebuild your financial independence after a divorce? In this episode of The Moving On Method® Podcast, Michelle Dempsey-Multack speaks with Ashley Miller (Madam Trader) about closing the wealth gap, overcoming financial fear, and taking practical steps toward financial freedom. Together, they unpack how women can transform money from a source of stress into a tool for empowerment, choice, and resilience. What You’ll Learn: Why financial literacy is a form of freedom, and a key to leaving toxic relationships How to take stock of assets, liabilities, and cash flow after divorce Practical shifts to reduce expenses and align spending with values Why investing, not just saving, is critical for long-term security The mindset shift every divorced woman needs to reclaim her financial independence Episode Highlights: 02:40 – Why money is more than numbers—it’s a tool for freedom and choice 06:55 – How Ashley created Madam Trader to spotlight women in finance 11:30 – The truth about the wealth gap and its long-term impact on women 16:05 – Where to start when rebuilding your finances post-divorce 20:50 – The danger of competing financially with your ex after separation 25:20 – Building a pre-investing foundation: emergency funds and debt management 29:45 – Why compounding interest is one of the greatest wealth-building tools 32:30 – Final insights: how to shift your money mindset and invest with confidence Meet the Guest: Ashley Miller, known as Madam Trader, is a finance professional and educator dedicated to helping women take charge of their financial futures. Through her podcast and coaching, she spotlights successful women traders, promotes financial literacy, and empowers women to close the wealth gap. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: Madam Trader Approach – storytelling and education to normalize women in finance Pre-Investing Checklist – emergency funds, debt payoff, and employer match strategies Compound Interest Framework – using time and consistency to grow wealth exponentially Ellevest Platform – an accessible robo-advisor and impact investing tool designed for women Closing Insight: “Money is a tool. The less you understand it, the more it controls your life. The more you understand it, the more freedom you have.” – Ashley Miller By building financial literacy and investing consistently, women can reclaim independence, model resilience for their children, and create a future they won’t have to recover from. Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep263-building-wealth-after-divorce Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when your ex keeps introducing new girlfriends to your children? This episode explores one of the most common and emotionally triggering co-parenting challenges: protecting your kids’ emotional safety when you can’t control your ex’s choices. Michelle Dempsey-Multack shares practical, child-centered strategies to help parents manage their own emotions, create stability at home, and provide the safe harbor children need to thrive. What You’ll Learn: Why you cannot control your ex’s decisions—but you can control your response How to process “ragey” feelings without placing that weight on your children The impact of a revolving door of partners on a child’s nervous system Simple scripts for responding when kids share their experiences with new partners The Safe Harbor Parenting™ framework for creating consistency, boundaries, and emotional resilience Episode Highlights: 00:42 – Why you can’t control your ex’s dating choices, and what to do instead 02:10 – Managing your own feelings without overwhelming your children 03:45 – How to ask open-ended questions that validate kids’ experiences 05:05 – Why overreaction teaches kids to hide their feelings 06:00 – Final reminder: your role as the safe harbor parent Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned Safe Harbor Parenting™ – a branded framework emphasizing emotional safety, consistency, boundaries, and resilience building Serenity Prayer Reframe – a mindset reminder for focusing energy only where you have influence Closing Insight: “Your job is not to control your ex. Your job is to be the safe harbor where your children can always return.” – Michelle Dempsey-Multack By modeling calm, consistent, child-centered co-parenting, you create the environment your kids won’t have to recover from, even if the other parent makes choices you cannot control. Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep261-ex-bringing-new-girlfriends-around-kids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when your children say they feel unsafe with their other parent, or when hostility from a co-parent makes stepfamily life harder than it should be? In this episode of The Moving On Method®, Michelle Dempsey-Multack addresses the top three questions divorce coaches hear most often, covering child safety, stepmom struggles, and parenting plan boundaries around introducing new partners. You’ll walk away with clear, compassionate strategies to keep the focus on your kids while managing the most difficult co-parenting dynamics. What You’ll Learn How to support your children when they resist visitation with their other parent Why stepmom–bio mom conflict often stems from fear and ego, and how to defuse it The truth about six-month “waiting period” clauses for introducing new partners How to focus your energy on child-centered priorities, not ego-driven battles Simple mindset shifts to help you thrive as a co-parent, step-parent, or divorced parent Episode Highlights 02:01 – What to do when kids say they feel unsafe with their other parent 06:14 – Why courts don’t always validate children’s voices 08:57 – How stepmoms can navigate hostility from the bio mom 11:20 – The deeper emotional drivers behind stepmom–bio mom conflict 13:45 – Should you include a six-month waiting period in your parenting plan? 15:40 – Why flexibility and emotional maturity matter more than rigid rules Meet the Expert Michelle Dempsey-Multack is a certified divorce and co-parenting specialist, best-selling author, and host of The Moving On Method®. She empowers parents worldwide to move from high-conflict separation to child-centered co-parenting with empathy, resilience, and clarity. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned Safe Harbor Parenting™ – creating the stable, secure home your children need Respect First Approach – why step-parents earn trust by honoring the bio parent “Hills Worth Dying On” Framework – choosing battles that actually protect your kids Closing Insight "You cannot change what happens in your ex’s home, but you can create safety and stability on your own. That’s the most powerful gift you can give your children." If this resonates, tune in now and discover how to approach co-parenting challenges with compassion, boundaries, and confidence. Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep260-divorce-co-parenting-top-questions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if your body has been holding onto trauma long after your mind thinks you’ve healed? In this powerful conversation, Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with Janine Forte, founder of One Yoga International™, to explore the science and soul of releasing stored trauma through yoga, mindfulness, and somatic healing. From understanding how “the issues are in the tissues” to learning gentle, accessible ways to reconnect with your body, this episode offers hope, tools, and inspiration for anyone seeking to heal from the inside out. What You’ll Learn: Why traditional talk therapy alone may not resolve trauma without addressing the body. How trauma hides in physical tension, especially in the hips and shoulders, and how yoga can release it. The Breathe–Move–Release Method for shifting out of fight-or-flight mode and into nervous system regulation. Practical daily rituals to build trust with your body after trauma or toxic relationships. How self-awareness, emotional regulation, and empathy expand when you “start by stopping.” Episode Highlights: 03:41 – The moment Janine realized she was taking care of her head but not her body 12:15 – Why yoga can trigger emotional release, and why that’s a good thing 21:04 – “The issues are in the tissues”: understanding trauma stored in the hips and shoulders 36:22 – Janine’s health scare that led to a radical life change and self-healing 48:09 – Simple 5-minute morning rituals to reconnect with your body 53:30 – How yoga dismantles ego and builds self-compassion 58:41 – The vision behind One Yoga International™ and its global retreats Meet the Guest: Janine Forte is a mindfulness teacher, yoga and meditation instructor, and the founder of One Yoga International™, a global platform offering in-person and online classes, transformational retreats, and a soon-to-launch 200-hour yoga teacher training. Her work supports a worldwide community dedicated to personal growth, healing, and conscious living. Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned Breathe–Move–Release Method – a framework for somatic trauma release Magic Carpet Mindset – approaching the yoga mat as a place for self-discovery Six Movements of the Spine (Pratapana) – foundational daily mobility practice Closing Insight: “If you’re miserable, shift.” — Janine Forte Sometimes the smallest adjustments, on the mat or in life, open the door to deep healing. Learn from Michelle how to navigate divorce & co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MichellePodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a Connect with Janine on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube: @OneYogaInternational and @JanineForte Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep259-healing-trauma-through-yoga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What legal and emotional tools do you actually need to leave a marriage, especially if you didn’t want the divorce in the first place? It's time for some expert legal advice. This week, host Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with Rachel Kipnis, family law attorney, divorced co-parent, and senior associate at GWHS Law, to unpack how women can take back their power through informed legal strategy. Together, they explore what most women overlook when navigating divorce, how to protect your peace during legal negotiations, and what it means to parent while grieving. What You'll Learn: The real legal questions women should ask before filing for divorce How to avoid the most common (and costly) divorce mistakes What amicable divorce really looks like—and how to protect it How grief and motherhood can coexist after a separation Why choosing the right attorney changes everything Meet the Guest Rachel Kipnis is a senior associate at GWHS Law and an experienced family law attorney who has helped hundreds of women navigate complex divorces. A divorced mother herself, Rachel combines legal clarity with lived empathy. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: The Moving On Method – Michelle Multack’s trauma-aware approach to healing after non-mutual divorce Peace-Protective Legal Strategy – Rachel’s philosophy for minimizing unnecessary litigation Child-First Co-Parenting – An agreement style focused on children’s emotional security Closing Insight: “You’re not weak for hurting—you’re strong for staying in the fight, even when it’s quiet, messy, and invisible.” — Michelle Multack Chapters: 02:00 Why Rachel became a divorce attorney after going through her own separation 08:45 The biggest misconceptions women have about legal protections 15:12 How to vet an attorney based on values, not fear 22:30 Why many women stay in unhappy marriages longer than they should 29:58 Parenting while grieving: Rachel’s closet-floor moment 36:44 The logistics of co-parenting: what really matters in the agreement 42:11 Redefining your legal and emotional identity post-divorce 48:55 Michelle’s takeaway: Knowledge isn’t just power—it’s peace Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: Connect with Rachel Kipnis Find Rachel on Instagram @thesplitstrategist Website Facebook TikTok LinkedIn LINK TO TRANSCRIPT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What really causes estrangement between parents and children, and how can you prevent it, especially after divorce? In this episode of The Moving On Method, host Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with psychotherapist and author Whitney Goodman (aka @sitwithwit) to unpack the nuanced emotional dynamics that lead to parent-child estrangement. From parentification to narcissistic family systems, Michelle and Whitney explore what it takes to be the safe, emotionally attuned parent your child needs, particularly when co-parenting in a high-conflict situation. What You’ll Learn: Why estrangement is becoming more openly discussed, and what’s actually driving it How parentification harms children (even when well-intentioned) The critical difference between protecting vs. over-sharing with your child How to build emotional safety and connection during divorce or co-parenting What “parenting without a roadmap” really means, and how to do it with confidence Episode Highlights: 03:44 – Is estrangement really on the rise, or are we just talking about it more? 08:29 – The difference between abandonment and emotional cutoffs 13:52 – Why parents repeat unhealthy dynamics or swing too far in the other direction 19:41 – How to avoid parentifying your child during divorce 26:35 – “My child is my rock”: When closeness crosses emotional boundaries 31:18 – What to say when your child repeats something the other parent said 34:50 – Can you be a “safe parent” even if you can’t control the other home? 37:11 – Parenting through estrangement fears: What conscious parents need to hear Meet the Guest: Whitney Goodman, LMFT, is a licensed psychotherapist, speaker, and author of Toxic Positivity. Best known for her online presence as @sitwithwit, Whitney helps individuals navigate family estrangement, generational trauma, and emotionally mature parenting through her work at callinghome.co. Tools, Frameworks, and Concepts Mentioned: Parenting Without a Roadmap – Whitney’s emotional navigation model for parents without healthy templates Parentification – A breakdown of the emotional role-reversal between parent and child Narcissistic Family Systems – Traits and long-term impacts Emotional Maturity vs. Emotional Oversharing – Why kids need honesty with boundaries Safe and Stable Parent Model – A guiding principle for high-conflict parenting Closing Insight: "Bad parents don’t worry about being bad parents. Conscious ones do." Being afraid your child will resent you one day is a sign you’re already trying to parent with awareness. But trying isn’t enough; you need tools, insight, and support. Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: https://transcripts/moving-on-method-ep257-parentification-estrangement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What should you say when your child asks about a parent’s affair, especially when it's all over social media? In this raw and resonant episode, divorce coach Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with conscious parenting expert Erin Morrison to unpack how to talk to children about infidelity, betrayal, and public scandals with age-appropriate empathy. Whether you’re navigating a high-conflict divorce or shielding your kids from adult chaos, this conversation is your go-to guide for Child-First Co-Parenting in an age of viral exposure. What You’ll Learn: How to use “appropriate honesty” to discuss hard truths with your children When shielding your kids becomes denial, and how to avoid both extremes Why over-disclosure creates emotional overload and long-term trauma How to hold safe emotional boundaries while still supporting their curiosity What to say (and what not to say) when your child finds out about an affair online Episode Highlights: 02:12 – Why viral scandals hit differently when you’re co-parenting 06:45 – Erin’s “need-to-know basis” approach to conscious communication 11:08 – The emotional damage of oversharing vs. age-appropriate truth 15:42 – What to do if you’ve already said too much (and how to walk it back) 23:16 – Can you be honest without vilifying your ex? 29:37 – How kids process betrayal differently than adults do 34:10 – Using trauma-informed parenting to guide difficult conversations 38:58 – The only thing you can overcompensate on without hurting your child Meet the Guest: Erin Morrison is a conscious parenting expert, certified coach, and author of Three Minutes for Mom. Known for her trauma-informed, emotionally attuned approach, Erin helps parents navigate challenging conversations with clarity, compassion, and confidence. Tools, Frameworks, and Strategies Mentioned: Appropriate Honesty – Erin’s approach to tailoring hard truths by age and need Need-to-Know Communication – Avoiding the trap of emotional dumping Child-First Co-Parenting – A core value of the Moms Moving On® community Closing Insight: “The only thing you can overcompensate for that won’t mess up your kids is your love, your presence, and your intentionality.” — Michelle Dempsey-Multack Parenting through infidelity isn’t about protecting your ego; it’s about protecting your child’s emotional ecosystem. Stay grounded. Stay present. And know that a single conversation done right can rebuild safety. Connect with Erin: Instagram: @itstheconsciousmom Books: https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Erin-Morrison/222387676 Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: htttp://transcripts/moms-moving-on-ep256-talking-to-kids-about-infidelity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if divorce could mark the beginning of your most empowered chapter yet? In this deeply personal episode of The Moving On Method, host Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with Olivia Howell and Jenny Dreizen, the visionary sisters behind Fresh Starts Registry. They share how personal heartbreaks became the foundation for a revolutionary platform that blends trauma-informed support, practical rebuilding tools, and a shame-free approach to life transitions. This is more than a divorce story; it’s a powerful blueprint for post-separation rebirth. What You’ll Learn: Why divorce is a form of trauma, and how Fresh Starts Registry helps address it holistically How to emotionally and physically reset your life after a silent divorce or toxic marriage The seven types of experts you may need during your post-divorce transition The emotional power of reclaiming your space with new, intentional items How to build a values-aligned support system during high-stress life events Episode Highlights: 03:12 – How Olivia and Jenny’s personal breakups inspired a registry for divorce recovery 10:44 – The emotional toll of “doing everything” in a silent divorce 19:17 – The moment Olivia realized she was emotionally unraveling 27:50 – Jenny’s wedding called off: When your “happily ever after” ends 33:03 – What it really takes to build a startup for healing 38:49 – A trauma-informed business model that protects emotional and physical safety 43:12 – Community, free resources, and 100+ vetted experts at your fingertips 47:30 – A love story that began in a museum: Jenny’s real-life fresh start Meet the Guests: Olivia Howell is a marketing strategist and certified divorce coach with a passion for new beginnings. Jenny Dreizen, a former wedding industry pro and logistics expert, co-founded Fresh Starts Registry to turn endings into empowering transformations. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: Fresh Starts Registry: A trauma-aware, Amazon-powered platform supporting people post-divorce with curated items and vetted expert referrals. Fresh Starts Expert Membership: A visibility and community program for coaches, therapists, attorneys, and professionals supporting clients in transition. Divorce Resource Consults: A free, no-obligation 15-minute session connecting users to custom resources and experts. Closing Insight: "The problem isn’t the person, it’s the pain. And healing means moving forward without shame."Whether you're just beginning your divorce journey or several years beyond it, Fresh Starts Registry offers more than tools; it offers transformation. Tap the links in the show notes to explore the registry, connect with vetted experts, and begin again on your terms. Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: http://michelledempsey.com/255 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if your fertility journey wasn’t just about you, but about both of you? In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Michelle Dempsey is joined by Ronit Menashe and Vida Delrahim, founders of WeNatal, the first prenatal supplement line designed for both men and women. Drawing from their deeply personal experiences with pregnancy loss, second marriages, and conception after 35, they unpack the emotional, relational, and scientific truths that are changing how couples approach fertility. Whether you're trying to conceive in a second chapter or exploring preconception wellness, this episode delivers critical insight, validation, and actionable hope. What You’ll Learn: Why fertility is not just a “her” issue: the science behind sperm quality and its impact on pregnancy How to optimize egg and sperm health within 90 days using targeted nutrients and lifestyle shifts What most doctors don’t tell you about miscarriage, Hashimoto’s, and hormonal root causes How emotional stress, mindset, and community play a role in conception Functional fertility strategies for couples over 35 and in blended families Episode Highlights: 03:42 – The origin story: how two best friends turned pregnancy loss into a wellness mission 09:28 – The missing 50%: why sperm health matters just as much as egg quality 14:10 – Reframing fertility after 35: it's not too late, and here’s why 17:30 – The functional medicine lens on miscarriage and autoimmune diagnosis 22:48 – What “Spermageddon” is and why male fertility is in global decline 28:05 – Breaking the stigma: how WeNatal empowers men to take responsibility 31:30 – Key supplements and nutrient science behind WeNatal’s product line 35:10 – The mind-body connection: how journaling, stress relief, and community support conception Meet the Guests: Ronit Menashe and Vida Delrahim are the co-founders of WeNatal, a groundbreaking fertility wellness brand offering the first prenatal supplement designed for both women and men. Their mission was born from personal loss and a critical discovery: most fertility advice ignores male reproductive health. With a team that includes Dr. Mark Hyman and other leading functional experts, WeNatal is reshaping the path to parenthood by shifting the focus from “me” to we. Tools, Frameworks & Strategies Mentioned: WeNatal for Him & Her – Bioavailable, low-pill-count daily prenatals Egg Quality Plus – Targeted mitochondrial support for improved egg health Go Mega & Magnesium 4-in-1 – Support for stress, sleep, and inflammation WeNatal Manifestation Journal – Guided prompts to reduce stress and deepen partner connection Functional Fertility Optimization – A holistic model for men and women over 35 Closing Insight: “Fertility is a team sport. Just because something is common doesn’t mean it’s normal or unchangeable.” Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠ Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: http://michelledempsey.com/254 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is technology ruining our connection with our kids, or can it actually enhance it? In this eye-opening episode, Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with Zoe Moed, tech-savvy mom and creator of @technically.mama, to explore how artificial intelligence can reduce the mental load, improve co-parenting communication, and deepen the joy of everyday parenting. From ChatGPT bedtime stories to emotionally intelligent texting, this conversation is a masterclass in modern motherhood and digital resilience. What You'll Learn: How to use ChatGPT as your parenting assistant, co-parenting coach, and bedtime story creator Why screen intent, not screen time, is the new north star for tech-conscious parenting The truth behind “Botox, Lothox” and how social media pressures distort motherhood Tactical tips for reducing conflict with a toxic ex using AI-generated responses Creative ways to bond with your kids using AI-driven activities and lessons Episode Chapters & Highlights: 4:12 – What inspired the viral "Botox, Lothox" post about the contradictions of modern motherhood 07:34 – Why doing less often leads to more connection with your kids 11:40 – Can ChatGPT help co-parents manage toxic texting without emotional exhaustion? 15:22 – Step-by-step: How Zoe uses AI to generate bedtime stories, complete with teaching moments 18:01 – Creating personalized coloring sheets and activity bundles with your kids' favorite themes 21:09 – Tech boundaries and how Zoe teaches her kids that “phones are tricky” 25:45 – Why parents must model healthy tech habits before policing their children’s screen use About our Guest: Zoe Moed (@technically.mama) is a former tech marketer turned content creator focused on helping moms integrate AI tools into parenting with intention and humor. Her viral insights bring together empathy, digital literacy, and a no-nonsense approach to motherhood. Tools, Frameworks, or Strategies Mentioned: "ChatGPT as Personal Assistant" framework – Use AI to plan meals, manage schedules, write emails, and craft co-parenting texts Prompting Language Tips – How to give ChatGPT specific roles (e.g., “Act as a pediatric psychologist”) to get high-quality output The Phone Box Ritual – A tangible method for reducing parental screen time and modeling tech mindfulness AI-Powered Bedtime Routine – Custom story prompts to generate kid-friendly, value-based narratives with images Emotional Detachment Protocol – AI-assisted texting for conflict-free co-parenting communication Closing Insight: "Let ChatGPT be the texter. You are the copy-paster." — Zoe Moed Technology isn’t the enemy, it’s the opportunity. With a little prompting and a lot of intention, moms can reclaim their time, protect their peace, and still show up as deeply connected parents. Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠ Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ LINK TO TRANSCRIPT: http://michelledempsey.com/253 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if your child’s anxiety isn’t a sign you’re failing but an opportunity to model emotional resilience? In this powerful episode of The Moving On Method, Michelle Dempsey-Multack sits down with child development expert Dr. Siggie Cohen to explore how parental anxiety, divorce, and over-accommodation are shaping today’s kids and what we can do differently. From redefining what anxiety really is to offering real-world strategies for emotionally intelligent parenting, this episode is a must-listen for any parent navigating co-parenting stress, child behavior shifts, or emotional regulation challenges. What You’ll Learn: The true nature of anxiety: why it’s hardwired into us and how it shows up in kids How divorce can create emotional fragmentation for children and what you can do to stabilize them The danger of over-accommodating your child’s fears and how it leads to helplessness Early warning signs of anxiety in children (that don’t always look like tantrums) Concrete strategies to build resilience, healthy coping, and emotional trust Episode Chapters & Highlights: 03:12 – Dr. Siggie explains why anxiety isn’t new, just newly visible 08:37 – Why parents unknowingly transfer anxiety to their kids 13:55 – The hidden impact of divorce on emotional regulation 20:01 – When comfort becomes over-accommodation 27:18 – What to do if your child is overly focused on your feelings 32:46 – A smarter way to talk to your kids about difficulty and divorce 38:10 – Michelle and Dr. Siggie on the exhaustion of “emotional labor” as a divorced parent 42:55 – First steps when your child’s anxiety feels “bigger than you” About Our Guest: Dr. Siggie Cohen is a child development specialist with over 35 years of experience supporting children and families through life transitions. Known for her signature calm, proactive parenting approach, she is the creator of the Everything Anxiety course, designed to help families navigate emotional overwhelm without resorting to over-fixing. Concepts & Tools Discussed In This Episode: Everything Anxiety Course: A program that shifts focus from eliminating fear to building coping muscles Modeling Emotional Regulation: How parents can “show not tell” resilience The Cycle of Over-Fixing: A pattern where accommodation reinforces helplessness Banana Splits Program: A school-based peer support group for kids of divorce Closing Insight: “Your child doesn't need a perfect life. They need the tools to handle an imperfect one.” — Dr. Siggie The conversations we have with our children about divorce will ultimately determine how well they adapt to being co-parented. Talking to children about divorce can be tricky and of course, emotional - let us teach you the best way to have the conversation Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠ Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: https://michelledempsey.com/coaching/ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey Website - https://michelledempsey.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/michelle645 TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How young is too young for an eating disorder? Psychologist and eating disorder specialist Dr. Tali Berliner joins host Michelle Dempsey-Multack to explore why children as young as six are developing disordered eating patterns, and what divorced or co-parenting families need to know. You’ll learn how emotional instability, conflicting routines, and control-seeking behavior in post-divorce households can fuel the early onset of body image issues and food-related anxiety. Whether you’re raising boys, girls, or neurodivergent children, this episode offers clear, compassionate strategies for protecting your child’s mental and emotional health. What You'll Learn: Why eating disorders are showing up earlier—and how divorce environments accelerate risk What emotional and behavioral signs to watch for in children (that often go unnoticed) The role of emotional safety, food freedom, and consistency across two homes How to talk about food and body image without reinforcing diet culture or shame The growing prevalence of eating disorders in boys and what makes them different Episode Chapters & Highlights: 03:18 – Why eating disorders are increasing in young children post-COVID 07:45 – How emotional control and instability contribute to disordered eating 13:02 – What not to say to kids about food and their bodies 19:10 – Red flags parents often miss: picky eating, food rituals, and body talk 25:50 – How to support healthy habits without control or fear-based parenting 30:11 – Eating disorders in boys: what’s different and why it matters 35:02 – Dr. Berliner’s advice to parents: “You can be your child’s safest place” About The Guest: Dr. Tali Berliner is a licensed psychologist specializing in eating disorders, anxiety, and trauma. With a deep focus on children, adolescents, and family systems, she helps parents create emotionally regulated, harm-reducing environments where kids can thrive—especially after divorce or disruption. Tools & Concepts Mentioned: “All Foods Fit” model Food Freedom Parenting Protective Buffering in Co-Parenting Body neutrality language for children Trauma-informed intervention for early-onset eating disorders Closing Insight: “You can’t always control what happens in the other household—but you can create safety, trust, and consistency in your own. And that makes all the difference.” If this conversation resonated with you, please share it with another parent, coach, or caregiver who may need to hear it. And don’t forget to leave a review—it helps this podcast reach the families who need it most. Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠ Find our more about how to build resilient children after divorce, or get one-on-one coaching from Michelle Subscribe to our YouTube Channel Subscribe on Spotify Facebook TikTok LinkedIn LINK TO TRANSCRIPT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when parents sacrifice happiness for the illusion of stability? Kristy Dyer joins Michelle to reflect on her experience growing up in a high-conflict household, and how that shaped her decision to leave a marriage that mirrored those same emotional patterns. Together, they explore how generational healing begins with honest parenting, and why children need emotionally safe environments more than they need traditional structures. What You’ll Learn • The unintended harm of “staying for the kids” • How emotional labor and perfectionism show up in parenting • Why transparency and repair matter more than perfection • Tools for raising emotionally safe children after separation • The importance of healing generational trauma through co-parenting Episode Highlights 03:02 – Kristy’s childhood: blended family, absent father 07:40 – The burden of perfectionism and emotional labor 12:15 – Repeating childhood patterns in adult relationships 15:50 – Reframing “starter marriages” and shame 22:12 – Building trust through repair after separation Meet Kristy Dyer Kristy is a co-parenting mom of three raising her children with honesty, healing, and courage. Her journey of breaking generational cycles offers insight for parents navigating divorce and reparenting themselves in the process. Final Thought “Your kids don’t need you to stay. They need you to heal.” Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore ⁠ Keep In Touch: Subscribe to our YouTube Channel Website Facebook TikTok LinkedIn Read the full transcript Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this empowering episode of The Moving On Method®, Michelle sits down with Rachel Kass from Worthy to discuss a topic many navigating divorce face: what to do with their jewelry. Far more than just a transaction, this conversation delves into how selling your jewelry post-divorce can be a powerful step towards financial empowerment and finding the positives amidst change. Rachel sheds light on how Worthy provides a secure and transparent way to sell pre-owned luxury items, offering a tangible opportunity to reclaim your financial independence. She explains the seamless process Worthy offers, from initial consultation to receiving an offer for your pieces, demystifying what can feel like an overwhelming task. How selling your post-divorce jewelry can be a positive step towards healing and financial freedom. Understanding how Worthy helps individuals turn unused assets into cash, with a focus on trust and transparency. How taking control of your assets can contribute to your overall sense of empowerment during and after divorce. AND MORE Worthy: Learn more about selling your jewelry and other luxury items at, www.worthy.com Connect with Worthy: @wearesoworthy Worthy is dedicated to providing sellers and buyers with that ultimate win-win. Everyday we bring together buyers and sellers with our luxury auction marketplace. Worthy is led by the very best in the luxury goods market and we work together to bring you the fairest market value for your valuable items while providing stellar service. Rachel has been working with Worthy for 6 plus years now. She is an expert in her field of diamonds and precious gems. The aspect of her job she loves the most is being able to help her clients and getting to know them and their stories. She a friend to animals and understands how important family is. Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: ⁠⁠http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a⁠⁠ Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠⁠ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey⁠⁠ Website - ⁠⁠https://michelledempsey.com/⁠⁠ Facebook - ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/michelle645⁠⁠ TikTok - ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Moving On Method®, Michelle Dempsey-Multack and Dr. Cassie Bowles delve into the complexities of detachment, particularly in the context of trauma and mental health. They explore how detachment can serve as a coping mechanism, its spectrum from mild to severe, and its implications on relationships and emotional well-being. Their conversation emphasizes the importance of awareness, compassionate curiosity, and the journey towards healing and reconnection with oneself. They also touch on the challenges of navigating relationships post-trauma and the significance of seeking help when needed. Together they will cover: How detachment is a coping mechanism against overwhelming emotions Self-Awareness is the first step towards change and healing There is a spectrum of trauma levels AND MORE Dr. Cassie Bowles graduated with honors from the University of California, Berkeley, earning a Bachelor’s Degree in American Studies. Following a few years working in health care consulting and the non-profit world, she returned to graduate school in 2014 to complete a Doctorate of Psychology at the California School of Professional Psychology. Dr. Cassie has trained in academic medical centers, schools, and private practice settings, working with a wide range of clinical presentations from depression and anxiety to complex medical diagnoses. She completed training in psychodiagnostic testing and assessment in the Infant and Preschool Clinic at UCLA’s Semel Institute of Neuroscience and Human Behavior, working with families of young children to address developmental and behavioral concerns. As an intern at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, she received training in neuropsychological assessment and cognitive behavioral therapy at the Children’s Orthopaedic Center. While at CHLA, she worked primarily with adolescents diagnosed with post-concussive syndrome and other neurological disorders such as epilepsy. Finding herself drawn to depth work and interested in deepening her clinical skills as a therapist, she completed an internship and post-graduate fellowship in psychodynamic psychotherapy at the Wright Institute Los Angeles, working with adults on an ongoing basis. While she considers herself a generalist in clinical practice, she takes special interest in working with parents, survivors of sexual and gender-based trauma, and phase-of-life/personal identity issues. Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: ⁠http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a⁠ Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey⁠ Website - ⁠https://michelledempsey.com/⁠ Facebook - ⁠https://www.facebook.com/michelle645⁠ TikTok - ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this conversation, Dr. Zoe Shaw and Michelle Dempsey-Multack explore the complexities of shame, codependency, and the dynamics of feminine and masculine energy in relationships. They discuss the impact of trauma on personal growth and relationships, the importance of vulnerability, and the need for emotional safety. Dr. Zoe shares her insights on how high-achieving women often struggle with their feminine energy and the societal pressures that contribute to this. The discussion also touches on the changing landscape of marriage and divorce, and Dr. Zoe's personal journey through her own divorce, emphasizing the importance of self-care and emotional health. Dr. Zoe specializes in helping women with complex shame and codependency. This was a great conversation on the complexities of how the feminine vs masculine energy shows up in modern relationships. Some other key takeaways from this conversation include: Complex shame can stem from early trauma and societal marginalization. Healing from shame requires vulnerability and empathy. High-achieving women often mask their femininity to succeed. Self-sabotage is common among those with complex shame. Healthy relationships require both partners to be intentional. Feminine energy is powerful and nurturing, not weak. Men need to feel needed to operate in their masculine energy. Self-care is essential for teaching future generations. Divorce can be a catalyst for personal growth and change. Dr. Zoe Shaw is a licensed psychotherapist with a doctorate in Clinical Psychology. For over 20 years she has worked to help women overcome Complex Shame™ and co-dependency in order to experience the healthy love you deserve. Get one-on-one coaching from Michelle: ⁠⁠http://stan.store/themichelledempsey/p/book-a-11-zoom-with-me-wt46q75a⁠⁠ Get Michelle's courses on navigating divorce and co-parenting: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/MDMPodStore⁠⁠ Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@TheMichelleDempsey⁠⁠ Website - ⁠⁠https://michelledempsey.com/⁠⁠ Facebook - ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/michelle645⁠⁠ TikTok - ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@themichelledempsey1⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mldempsey/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices