The Multiverse: a Podcast about Tribalism in America

Extra long, extra juicy, extra momtastic: Caitlin & Katie (both moms of two, if ya didn’t catch that) debrief the issues explored in Season 3 with our expert guest hosts, Paula & Nina. From the attitudes and practices surrounding vaccines, infant feeding, and moms and work, to the attitudes and practices (read: policies) that our country imposes on moms at large, C& K ponder how the state of the “Mom Tribe” might point to some larger issues facing America today.   CREDITS:  Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl  © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Expert guest hosts Paula & Nina shine with compassion and wit as they take on their last episode here at the Multiverse. They respond frankly to Randi Zuckerberg’s interview about (not) having it all (at once), and share their own experiences of being a stay-at-home and/or working mom. They also field three stories from our listening audience about motherhood and work, shining a little light – and lightheartedness – on what looks like an all around impossible situation for moms out there today.   CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

In a world where women are expected to parent like they don’t have a job and work as if they don’t have children, how exactly do we “have it all”? Bestselling author, new mom (again), and media mogul, Randi Zuckerberg, tells us why it’s better to be well lopsided than perfectly balanced. In her book, Pick Three, she lays out how focusing on 3 of the 5 areas women aspire to rule can be the ticket to real world success. Katie and Paula find out exactly what that looks like for her, and what specific advice she has for moms stuck in the hampster wheel of early parenthood.   Guest: Randi Zuckerberg  Links: Zuckerberg Media &  Pick Three CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Have you ever been invited for coffee only to find out your friend was working a pyramid scheme and pushing unwanted “goods” on you? The Multiverse interviews Laura Richards on her viral article concerning MLM’s and why they are so toxic to our society. Paula dishes on her own experience with tupperware sales and Nina offers a counterpoint to one of the sketchiest schemes going down in the mom tribe. Grab a glass of wine, prop open your laptop, and give this one a listen while living your best life. #bosslady Guest: Laura Richards Links: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/21/how-mlms-are-hurting-female-friendships/  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

In this episode, Paula and Nina explore the dicey choice moms have to make regarding how they feed their newborns and why you should care. First, author Emily Oster breaks down how data-based parenting looks in the real world, the mixed messages moms get about feeding their infants, and how we’re probably not failing our children regardless of what choice we make. Then blogger and formula feeding activist Suzanne Barston illustrates how sometimes the decision between breastfeeding or bottle feeding isn’t really a choice...and the judgement moms receive, nonetheless.   Guests: Emily Oster, Suzanne Barston  Links: Crib Sheet & Fearless Formula Feeder  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl  © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

In this episode, Paula and Nina respond to letters from listeners regarding vaccines and the decisions parents make. They explore multiple perspectives, data based outcomes, the question of education as an equalizer, and share some of their own experiences – both personal and drawn from their many years of experience working with new parents.  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

This week you'll meet Paula Norcott and Nina Emlen, our expert guest hosts this season! Both are perinatal professionals, doulas, entrepreneurs and mothers living and working with new moms in Maine. The first topic they'll tackle is perhaps the most contentious - and potentially the most dangerous - health issue facing today's new parents, and really, public health at large: vaccine hesitancy and refusal. They interview sociologist and author Jennifer Reich, who researches how and why families choose to vaccinate their children or not. Discover what the data says about vaccine safety, how the history of vaccines is actually wound up in a social justice movement, and how families are navigating issues of individual health versus civic duty.  Guests: Jennifer Reich  Links: Calling the Shots  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Cait & Katie discuss the special interviews with Ann Crittenden and Emma Johnson, and break down some of the realities about the labor of mothering, parenting with and without a partner, burnout, policy, and what might have to happen in America for things to actually change.   CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Katie talks with author, blogger and shared parenting activist Emma Johnson about single parenting, dismantling the Patriarchy (for women and men), and how our culture’s messages about what makes a “good mom” isn’t exactly good for women. Prepare to have your most unconsciously internalized values about family life and labor challenged in the most illuminating of ways.   Guests: Emma Johnson  Links: Kickass Single Mom, Wealthy Single Mommy, Moms for Shared Parenting  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

In this special interview, Cait talks to journalist and economist Ann Crittenden, whose book The Price of Motherhood changed her perspective on new motherhood. Brace yourself for a discussion about the value our country puts (or doesn’t put) on women’s traditional work, the (still pervasive) “mommy tax,” how the statistics about how moms are faring in America are as bad (or worse) as they were 20 years ago… and how hoards of grannies might be the ones to save the day.   Guests: Ann Crittenden  Links: The Price of Motherhood  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Caitlin and Katie introduce the next world they’ll investigate here on The Multiverse – the Mom Tribe – and T-up some of the contentious issues they’ll tackle this season. Dropping some sound bites from an all-star roster of moms, including a slew of bestselling authors, we begin our journey to understand the sector of society who arguably still does the most important job in the world.   Guests: Emily Oster, Suzanne Barston, Jennifer Reich, Laura Richards, Randi Zuckerberg, Ann Crittenden, Emma Johnson.   CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Katie chats with Noah Shaw about getting green to go green and the environmental impact of the pot industry. Is the idea of the happy hippy weed guy just an elaborate smoke screen? Who’s gonna end up paying for the intense carbon footprint of greenhouses and grow ops? Our guest has some good answers to these sticky questions.  Guests: Noah Shaw CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief  © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Katie chats with Susan Driscoll, who went from being dean of an agricultural college to starting Florida’s first legal weed dispensary. Hear how this weed maven holds true to the old dealer’s maxim of “don’t smoke your own product,” never using but happy to give others the medical comfort they need.   CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Jeanne Sullivan talks about investment in the cannabis sector, what’s holding legalization back, and how the future of cannabis research is happening in... Israel?  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Katie chats with Mira Gonzalez (poet, journalist, and former editor at Snoop Dog’s Merry Jane) about her career as a pot writer, her issues with “elevated” weed marketing, legalization without reparations, and how capitalism may end up killing everyone’s vibe.  Guests: Mira Gonzalez Links: Mira's Twitter, Mira's book, & the article she wrote about drinking a whole bottle of weed lube CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Is plant wisdom the key to what we’re seeking? What about unlocking your personal creative vision? Caitlin & Katie talk weed, healing and interconnectivity in this recap of the final episode of this season.  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Our hosts explore the higher dimensions of cannabis: how it affects us creatively, and perhaps even spiritually (if that really is a thing). So tune in to find out whether “high thoughts” are all they’re cracked up to be.  Guests: Tara Rose, Ken Jordan Links: PeaceLoveTara.com; The Alchemist's Kitchen & The Evolver Podcast  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Caitlin and Katie talk about what it’s like to live in this burgeoning pot scene. Katie shares stories from Denver, and Caitlin talks about this country’s challenging history with “reform.”  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Caitlin and Katie talk with two tribes of people who are clamoring for marijuana policy reform: those unfairly targeted by the “War On Drugs” because of the color of their skin, and those who are poised to make big money once the feds give the legal thumbs up.  Guests: “Vanessa,” David Fuhrer, Olivia Naugle, Ricky Fitts, Jake Browne, & Neale Gibbons.  CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions

Caitlin and Katie dig in to the science (or sometimes lack thereof) backing the cannabis industry, share CBD mishaps, and ponder the future of medical marijuana.   CREDITS: Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson Sound Design & Editing by: Ian Carlsen Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan Closing music: “For You and Me” by Robber & Thief © OPEN EYE | media, productions, projects & FRIEND ENERGIES Productions