The National Security Podcast

Only three percent of Australian adults were able to demonstrate the ability to verify information online, in a recent study. How can media literacy help inoculate citizens against mis- and disinformation?  Why are critical thinking and media skills essential in a thriving democracy? And how can best-practice examples from around the globe and leading domestic research help shape the recently announced National Media Literacy Strategy?  In this episode, Tanya Notley and Sora Park join Tim Wilford to discuss Australian media habits, media literacy, and how people can better equip themselves to identify mis/disinformation.  Professor Sora Park is a Professor of Communication and a Professorial Research Fellow at the University of Canberra's News and Media Research Centre. Associate Professor Tanya Notley is an Associate Professor at Western Sydney University's Institute for Culture and Society. Tim Wilford is Senior Manager, Policy and Engagement at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPT  Show notes:  NSC academic programsDigital news report: Australia Adult media literacy in 2024News and young AustraliansTowards a national media literacy strategyOnline misinformation in AustraliaNews media assistance program Media literacy and education in Finland The full list of materials on media literacy can be found here. We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How can Australia continue to champion the rules-based order, while balancing its strategic relationships and defence priorities?   How is the government modernising the Australian Defence Force to address evolving challenges?   What is Australia doing to ensure it remains the partner of choice in the Pacific? And how does the NRL deal with PNG impact security in the region?   In this episode, Pat Conroy joins Rory Medcalf to discuss his strategic worldview, Australia’s ties with the Pacific and the Albanese Government’s continued push to invest more in the Australian Defence Force. The Hon Pat Conroy MP is the Minister for Defence Industry and Capability Delivery and the Minister for International Development and the Pacific. Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia. TRANSCRIPTShow notes:   NSC academic programs – find out more    Address to the National Press Club by the Hon Pat Conroy MP Defence Strategic Review 2023 Address to the Hunter Defence Conference Gala Dinner by the Hon Pat Conroy MP   We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As the notion of a single ‘global theatre of struggle’ gains traction, what are the major challenges that Australia currently faces?How has Australia’s defence investment evolved over the years, and is the nation equipped to address today’s pressing challenges?What steps can Australia take to strengthen social cohesion while navigating political compromise and disruptive forces?In this episode, Andrew Hastie joins Rory Medcalf to discuss his formative influences, strategic worldviews, and Australia’s defence challenges. The Hon Andrew Hastie MP is the Shadow Minister for Defence, Shadow Minister for Defence Industry, and Shadow Minister for Defence Personnel. Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia. TRANSCRIPTShow notes:  NSC academic programs – find out more The Hon Andrew Hastie MP’s speech at Securing our Future What are the most underappreciated threats to Australia’s security?  We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How does the United States' presidential transition process work, and how does it compare to the Australian electoral system? How might the election of Donald Trump impact US foreign and security policies?  How can Australia best engage with a new Trump administration on critical issues like AUKUS, defence strategy, and tariffs?  In this episode, Charles Edel joins Bianca Birdsall to discuss the election of Donald Trump to the US presidency, his proposed cabinet and staff nominees, and the security and foreign policy implications of a new administration for Australia and its region.    Dr Charles Edel is a Senior Advisor and inaugural Australia Chair at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies.   Bianca Birdsall is a Senior Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). TRANSCRIPTShow notes:  Listener survey: The National Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more Inflation Reduction Act | U.S. Department of the Treasury  We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How does our strategic environment inform leadership in intelligence and national security? How do partnerships assist intel collection in an increasingly complex world?  What are the foundations of trust in a leader?  This episode is a panel discussion, hosted by Meg Tapia at the 2024 Women in National Security LIVE, features Kerri Hartland, Heather Smith, and Heather Cook. They explore leadership in a complex strategic environment, being a 'first,' and the importance of relationships in national security. Kerri Hartland is the Director-General of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service. Dr Heather Smith PSM FAIIA is the National President of the Australian Institute of International Affairs. Heather Cook is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission. Meg Tapia is an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College.  TRANSCRIPTShow notes  NSC academic programs – find out more 2024 Independent Intelligence Review overview Australian Institute of International Affairs  Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission Australian Secret Intelligence Service   We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au.You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is the relationship between national security and politics? How does national security policymaking differ from other areas of public policy?And how might the decline of major parties in Australia impact the national security policymaking process?In this episode, George Brandis – Australia's former Attorney-General and High Commissioner to the United kingdom – joins David Andrews to discuss the politics of national security policymaking.  Professor The Honourable George Brandis KC is a Professor in the Practice of National Security in a joint appoint to the ANU National Security College (NSC) and the ANU College of Law.  David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC. TRANSCRIPTShow notes:  Listener survey: The National Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is the role of the Army in an era shaped by strategic competition?How is the Army adapting for wars of the future?Why is it important to build trust between the Army and Australian society? In this episode, Simon Stuart joins Rory Medcalf discuss the changing nature of warfare, and how the Australian Army is positioned to succeed in facing future challenges. Lieutenant General Simon Stuart AO DSC is Chief of the Australian Army.Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.TRANSCRIPT Show notes ·        Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast ·        NSC academic programs – find out more  ·        Defence Strategic Review 2023 ·        National Defence Strategy 2024·        A2/AD systemsWe'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How will automated systems and artificial intelligence change the nature of weaponry?What ethical issues are at play when we discuss lethal autonomous weapons? Can weapons be programmed to follow the laws of armed conflict?How does public literacy influence perceptions of weapons systems?In this episode, Zena Assaad and Lauren Sanders join Danielle Ireland-Piper to discuss weapons regulation, and how artificial intelligence and autonomous systems changes the arms landscape.Dr Zena Assaad is a Senior Research Fellow with the School of Engineering at the Australian National University (ANU).Dr Lauren Sanders is a Senior Research Fellow with the TC Beirne School of Law at the University of Queensland, in the Law and Future of War Project.Dr Danielle-Ireland Piper is Academic Director and Associate Professor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). TRANSCRIPTShow notesListener survey: The Nation Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more UN Report on Governing AI  EU AI Act Responsible AI in the Military Summit Legal review of autonomous weapons systems   We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How do electoral commissions balance public trust with the growing role of technology (like Artificial Intelligence) in electoral processes? Can AI be a democratic tool? How are the electoral commissions in Australia and UK dealing with threats like misinformation and foreign interference? Why is absolute independence important for the Australian and UK electoral commissions? In this episode, Tom Rogers and Vijay Rangarajan join Rory Medcalf to discuss congruent and colliding features of the Australian and British electoral systems: the role of losers' consent, the electoral commissions’ absolute independence, trust in democratic institutions, and influence of foreign interference come election time.  Tom Rogers is the Australian Electoral Commissioner.  Vijay Rangarajan is the Commissioner of the UK Electoral Commission.  Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His experience spans three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.  TRANSCRIPTShow notes:  Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast  NSC academic programs – find out more   Electoral Integrity Assurance Task Force  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How do negative portrayals of migrants and refugees impact social cohesion within a society? What is "crimmigration," and what are the issues with using criminal law frameworks in immigration contexts?Do political incentives shape the discourse on migration and distract from other security threats? In this episode, Alan Gamlen, Kate Ogg, and Dorota Gozdecka join Danielle Ireland-Piper to discuss "crimmigation”, why migration is a politically charged issue, and discuss High Court cases that have influenced Australia’s approach to migration and refugee laws.Professor Alan Gamlen is the Director of the ANU Migration Hub and Professor in the ANU School of Regulation and Global Governance.  Professor Kate Ogg is a Professor and the Associate Dean of Higher Degree Research at the ANU College of Law. Professor Dorota Gozdecka is a Professor of Law at the University of Helsinki in Finland.   Dr Danielle Ireland-Piper is Academic Director and Associate Professor at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPTShow notes  Listener surveyNSC academic programs: find out more   Kate Ogg's bookDorota Gozdecka's bookAlan Gamlen in The GuardianMark J. Miller and Stephen Castles: The age of migration  Jim Hollifield and Phillip Martin: Controlling immigration: a global perspective Reyna Grande and Sonia Guiñansaca: Somewhere we are human: authentic voices on migration, survival and new beginnings William Maley: Australia's refugee policy: domestic politics and diplomatic consequences Professor James Hathway: The rights of refugees under international law  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Collective mobilisation is needed for an adequate response to climate change. How do we get there?How does climate change affect militaries? What role can technology play in mitigating the risks?What challenges does federalism pose in the effort to address climate change?In this episode, Tom Middendorp, Chris Barrie, Cheryl Durrant, and Sophie Lewis join Danielle Ireland-Piper to examine the critical link between climate change and national security, and what action is needed to mitigate the risks posed by it. General (Retired) Middendorp AO is the Chair of the International Military Council on Climate and Security and the former Dutch Chief of Defence. Admiral (Rtd) Chris Barrie AC is the former Australian Chief of the Defence Force and a founding and executive member of the Australian Security Leaders Climate Group. Cheyrl Durrant is the Former Director of Preparedness and Mobilisation at the Australian Department of Defence and a founding and executive member of the Australian Security Leaders Climate Group. Dr Sophie Lewis is ACT Commissioner for Sustainability and the Environment.   Dr Danielle Ireland-Piper is Academic Director at the ANU National Security College (NSC).  TRANSCRIPT  Show notesListener survey: The Nation Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more  Tom Middendorp’s book – The Climate General  Chris Barrie’s report – Climate change, security and Australia’s Defence Force  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is the significance of rare earths and critical minerals for Australia and its partners?  How does Australia’s conception of critical minerals differ from its partners? How do critical minerals lists reflect how those states view resource supply chains and vulnerabilities?  With China currently dominating the rare earths value chain, how can Australia protect its interests in this space?In this episode, Hayley Channer and John Mavrogenes join David Andrews to discuss critical minerals and rare earths and the geopolitical landscape surrounding them. Hayley Channer is Director, Economic Security at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney.  Professor John Mavrogenes is a Professor of Economic Geology at the ANU Research School of Earth Sciences.  David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).  TRANSCRIPTShow notes:  NSC academic programs – find out more  NSC's professional development program on rare earths and critical minerals Kim Beazley’s call for a rare earths and critical minerals ‘Pillar 3’ for AUKUS Jeff Wilson’s paper on how the Quad could play a coordinating role in this space  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What are the key takeaways from the 2024 Quad Leaders’ Summit?  The Quad has helped its members to align and coordinate key policies, but what more needs to be done to improve its ability to deliver on major initiatives?  Would the Quad benefit from pursuing a foundational treaty, agreement, or common branding, or is it better served by retaining its current, flexible approach? In this episode, Gaurav Saini and Kate Clayton join David Andrews to discuss the 2024 Quad Leaders’ Summit, and what the future may look like with incoming leadership changes. Dr Gaurav Saini is the co-founder of the Council for Strategic and Defence Research, a New Delhi think tank focused on foreign policy and security issues. He is part of the US State Department's Emerging Quad Think Tank Leaders program. Kate Clayton is a Senior Coordinator for Research and Programs at La Trobe Asia and the Blue Security Maritime Exchange.  David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). Show notes:  NSC academic programs – find out more  Joint statement from the leaders of Australia, India, Japan, and the United States Gaurav Saini’s article in the Lowy Institute Interpreter – with NSC's Dirk van der Kley.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How can public policy better reflect the humanity and vulnerability of citizens? How can government leaders remain mindful of individuals within broader systems, and how does this approach improve public policy outcomes? How can governments foster ethical leadership and accountability while balancing political pressures and systemic challenges?  In this episode, Mark Crosweller and Margaret Moreton join David Andrews to discuss compassion, ethical leadership, resilience, and the tensions between individuals and institutions in the national security space.   Dr Mark Crosweller AFSM is a Distinguished Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC) and Director of Ethical Intelligence Pty Ltd.  Dr Margaret Moreton is Executive Director at the Australian Institute for Disaster Resilience.  David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC.   Show notes:   ANU academic programs – find out more  Mark’s book -  Compassion in Disaster Management: The Essential Ethic of Relational Leadership IPCC – The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change    We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is the central logic of AUKUS from a UK perspective?How does AUKUS contribute to European security?How does AUKUS fit into UK defence interests and strategies in the Indo-Pacific?In this episode, Damian Parmenter joins Rory Medcalf to discuss the UK perspective on AUKUS: the strategic environment, Pillar One operational specifics, diplomatic engagement and legislation, and progress on Pillar Two.Damian Parmenter CBE is Director General AUKUS at the UK Ministry of Defence.  Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His professional experience spans three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.  Show notes  The undergoing UK Strategic Defence Review  Australian National Defence Strategy  British SSN involved in search for Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 US International Traffic of Arms Regulation  Recent AUKUS agreement tabled in Australian parliament   We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Considering new contributions to the Pacific Resilience Fund, is the global community doing enough to support Pacific Island countries?  How has the Falepili Union between Australia and Tuvalu been received more broadly across the region?  Will it be replicated?  How does the Pacific Policing Initiative fit within the Pacific approach to collective security? How can the Pacific balance the pros and cons of the PALM scheme?  In this episode, Maima Koro, Henritta McNeil and Joel Nilon join Bianca Birdsall to reflect on the 2024 Pacific Islands Forum, including the Pacific Resilience Fund, Pacific Policing Initiative, and the role of dialogue partners.  Maualaivao Maima Koro is the Pacific Research Fellow and academic co-lead of the Regional Perspectives collaboration between Adelaide University and the Defence Science and Technology Group. Dr Henrietta McNeill is a Research Fellow on Pacific security, geopolitics and regionalism at the ANU Department of Pacific Affairs. Joel Nilon is a Pacific Fellow at the ANU Pacific Security College.  Show notes:  ANU academic programs – find out more  Pacific Policing Initiative Power and Influence in the Pacific Islands – co-authored by Henrietta McNeill  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What is sports diplomacy and why is it important to Australia’s foreign policy? What is the rationale behind the PNG-Australia rugby league deal?  How are sporting events being weaponised to undermine social cohesion or reflect geopolitical tensions?  In this episode, Bianca Birdsall and Stuart Murray join David Andrews to discuss the role of sport as it relates to Australia’s national security – in diplomacy, foreign policy, and as a vector for insecurity, violence, crime, and societal unrest.  Bianca Birdsall is a Senior Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC), on secondment from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.  Dr Stuart Murray is an Associate Professor in International Relations and Diplomacy at Bond University.   David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC.  Show notes  ADF-run sports program in Fiji First Nations netball team   First Nations netball Coaching Course  PNG NRL team $600m deal   We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What makes the space domain critical to Australia’s defence and security? What is our constellation of defence partners in space? What assets does Australia bring to these relationships?  What are the challenges and opportunities in the space domain?  Is Australia contributing to what some critics call the “militarisation of space”?  In this episode, Greg Novak joins Rory Medcalf to discuss the importance of space to Australia’s national interest, collaboration with industry and the civilian space sector and collaboration with like-minded partners in the space domain.  Major General Greg Novak is Defence Space Commander in the Australian Space Command.  Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.  Show notes  ANU National Security College academic programs: find out more Defence Strategic Review  National Defence Strategy  Defence Space Strategy  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What can we expect from Indian foreign and security policy under a third Modi government?How does the India-Russia relationship impact India’s foreign policy and cooperation with Western partners?How can India manage its strategic ambitions amidst region instability – including its deteriorating relationship with China?How do Australia and other Western powers balance their interests in strategic cooperation with India alongside challenges to political trust that have emerged recently? In this episode, Ian Hall and Darshana Baruah join Rory Medcalf to discuss India’s evolving place in the world, from its immediate neighbourhood to bilateral relationships with global powers. Professor Ian Hall is a Professor of International Relations at Griffith University. He is also an Academic Fellow of the Australia India Institute.Darshana Baruah is Director of Security and Geopolitics at the Australia India Institute and an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College.Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think thanks, journalism and academia.   Show notes  ANU National Security College academic programs: find out more Darshana Baruah's book: The Contest for the Indian OceanIan Hall’s books: The Engagement of India: Strategies and Responses and Assessing Australia’s Strategic Personalities   We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How have alliances and security partnerships in the Indo-Pacific evolved in recent years? What trends can be identified? How does the current security environment compare to previous eras of alliance formation? What lessons can we draw?  Are we seeing a strategic convergence between the Euro-Atlantic and the Indo-Pacific? Between NATO and the network of US bilateral alliances in Asia? In this episode, Alexander Lanoszka and Susannah Patton join David Andrews to discuss the evolving role of alliances and security partnerships on the global stage.   Alexander Lanoszka is an Associate Professor in the Department of Political Science at the Balsillie School of International Affairs at the University of Waterloo. He is also an Associate Fellow at the UK-based Council on Geostrategy and a Senior Fellow at the Ottawa-based Macdonald-Laurier Institute.  Susannah Patton is Director of the Southeast Asia program at the Lowy Institute and the Project Lead for the Asia Power Index.  David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College.  Show notes  ANU National Security College academic programs: find out more Alexander Lanoszka’s book: ‘Military Alliances in the Twenty-First Century’ Susannah Patton’s Lowy Interpreter article: ‘From global to regional: Australia’s focus narrows’ Lowy Institute Asia Power Index Pew Research Centre  Institute of Southeast Asian Studies’ State of Southeast Asia Survey  We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.