The Natural Birth Podcast

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Lindsey Meehleis. Lindsey is a fellow spiritual midwife, medicine woman and storyteller who I absolutely adore and I am so excited to have her on the podcast. It feels like talking to myself. I am certain you’ll all love the beautiful storytelling and wisdom that pours through Lindsey. In today’s episode we dive on into Lindsey’s own two birth stories. Her first induction turned c/s at a very young age and how that catapulted her into becoming a doula and then a midwife. To her second which was a very conscious conception and home birth totally transforming Lindsey from who she was to who she then became. It’s an episode that dives into the topics of midwifery and herstory and claiming your sovereignty in birth and life, to talking about the birth portal and how there are four things that need to dilate. The cervix, the vulva, the heart and the mind. It’s a beautiful chat that I hope you’ll all enjoy. Curious about Lindsey? Find her on Instagram as @lindseymeehleis Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Holly. Holly is a mama of two from the UK.  She is a clinical psychologist and working with children is her passion.  Today we will dive on into her two birth stories. She thought she was well informed with her first birth which was a fast hospital birth, but in retrospect she wishes she knew more. For her second pregnancy, she dove deep into the research literature on labour and birth and constantly listened to this podcast and concluded that a home birth was the right fit for her with it being safer for both mama and baby. Despite feeling under pressure from the maternity system who were encouraging an induction due to a 'suspected big baby' and 'undiagnosed gestational diabetes', she stuck to her home birth plan which resulted in a euphoric, calm home water birth. Once her baby was born, she said it felt so amazing that she wanted to do it all again!  She wishes all pregnant mamas would get to experience a birth like hers.  She now advocates for pregnant women to do their own research and not assume they will get the information they need from their antenatal classes and loves telling her birth story to highlight to women that birth isn’t something to fear and can be positive and empowering... and can leave you wanting to do it all over again! Curious about Holly? Find her on Instagram as @hollymariethom Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Nix. Nix is a mama of 2, originally from Cape Town, but have lived in the UK since the age of 5. Nix is trained in finance and has spent the last 6 years working for a large music and arts festival as well as a tech company.  But now she is following a different calling and career path after training as a yoga teacher and joining The Sacred Birth Worker Mentorship in January this year, hoping to fulfill her dream of working with women in the future. In this episode she shares about how the maternity system derailed her first home birth with fear mongering and an induction that ended up only being a foley catheter and breaking of waters before Nix’s body took over and birthed her baby. And then how the second time around she decided to educate herself and withstand the desire from the maternity system to medicalize her birth and only deal with her home birth midwives. She joined The Sacred Birth Worker Mentorship in her third trimester and also took The Natural Birth Course as soon as she found out she was pregnant and was informed up to her teeth as well as doing the inner work needed, and ended up having her redemptive home birth (in an Airbnb mind you, but more on that in the episode ;) ). I absolutely adore the picture of Nix on the floor with her baby absolutely beaming with ecstasy after her fast and furious birth under 2hrs. Make sure you check it out on our Instagram @thenaturalbirthpodcast as it will be published this week to come. It will fill you with so much joy! Curious about Nix? Find her on Instagram as @nixsacredbirth Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Helen. Helen is a stay at home mother of two, airbnb superhost, and a property developer who lives on the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.  Today we will hear about how Helen became pregnant with her first baby at 39 years old using IVF and then experienced secondary infertility until she became pregnant with her second. A long, painful but essentially empowering conception story for both. She was 43 and a half for her second and it was actually a natural conception after doing a huge amount of preconception work and self education as the medical system wasn’t finding answers. Something you’ll learn more about in the beginning of this episode. She also opted for a private OBGYN and private hospital birthing experience and did lots and lots of birth preparation and ended up having the natural birth she wanted. Mind you her OBGYN didn’t make it to the birth and the midwife wasn’t in the room as her baby’s head crowned. The key to her success was education, birth prep and staying out of the hospital as long as possible. Curious about Helen? Find her on Instagram as @helenblazey Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Kayla. Kayla is a mama of one from South Africa.  She is a doula and a Sacred Birth Worker Mentee who is passionate about supporting mothers and families during the precious journey of childbirth.  Today we will hear about her journey of knowing at a very young age she needed to become a mother and how the desire to become a mother and a birth worker was intimately woven together. She did a short doula course at 6 months pregnant and straight after decided it wasn’t enough and applied for The Sacred Birth Worker Mentorship. She ended up birthing the first week of the mentorship, at 37 weeks, as a first time mama. And she had a short first time birth in water, in her home, surrounded by family, a doula and her midwife. Home birth and natural birthing is rare in the world nowadays and even rarer in South Africa so I’m so pleased to have a mentee there and for her to share her story with you. Hopefully inspiring other young African women to trust in birth’s design. She has great visions of starting a podcast for natural birthing in South Africa and I’m sure with her passion she’ll do great things for the natural birthing and home birthing community in her country and beyond. Curious about Kayla? Find her on Instagram as @sacredart_ofbirthing Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Rachel. Rachel is a mama of two from the US. Her passion for birth and babies started when she went to nursing school and wanted to work on a maternity floor. When she finally landed a job as a mother & baby nurse, she quickly was not impressed by how birthing mamas and newborns were cared for. She stayed working in the system for four years, but was constantly unlearning what she saw, and trusting birth in a whole other way through podcasts and Instagram.  It really goes to show the power of storytelling, women to women. So thank you for listening to these stories and spreading them far and wide. I can’t tell you how amazing it is to get your messages and emails, especially from birth workers who share this poddy with their clients or tell me how it's changing their practice and trust in women, babies and birth. Gives me goosebumps. Truly. Anyways, back to Rachel. When Rachel became pregnant with her first, she planned her dream home birth with a slightly wild pregnancy and left the maternity system at the very beginning of her first pregnancy. She’s now worked as a pediatric home care nurse and home birth assistant with a traditional midwife in the past few years, but mostly has been home raising her two babies. She just started her journey on encapsulating placentas.  And today we will hear about her home births. Curious about Rachel? Find her on Instagram as @_love_dahlia Did you know you can now watch all the podcast episodes on our YouTube channel? Every Sunday the new video version of this podcast is aired on The Spiritual Midwitch YouTube channel. Please pop on over all tell us what you think? Do you prefer to listen to watch ? Or maybe both? I’d love to know. Send me a dm on our Instagram @thenaturalbirthpodcast or comment on one of your favorite YouTube episodes! Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Fanny. Fanny is a mama of four, something she says she never thought she’d ever be, from Sweden. She is currently a stay at home mama and used to work in HR. Today we will hear about all of her 4 four births but the focus will be on her most recent amazing home birth with her twins. Fanny says her home water birth was a fantastic experience where she just let her body do the work. She breathed and talked to her babies and just let go into the power of the birth portal. Her older kids were there and so was her mum and her husband of course. It was just a really natural, safe and ordinary birth according to Fanny. And it is! However these stories are few of twins born at home nowadays, so I am very grateful she wanted to share it with us. Curious about Fanny? Find her on Instagram as @fannyplato Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Dailah. Dailah is a Mother of 4 from the US living in Africa. She is a Quantum life coach and a Painless Birth™ Worker.  She assists Women to give birth without pain using a series of brain wave techniques and tools.  In this episode she will share about her first 3 hospital births with epidurals and the shift that led her to birthing her fourth child at home with no pain and how she became a painless birth worker after her own experience. Curious about Dailah? Find her on Instagram as @the.painless.birth.worker Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Lauren. Lauren is a mama of 1 originally from England, now living in New Zealand for seven years. She’s a pastry chef and qualified personal trainer, now focusing on raising her baby girl. She’s been vegan for ten years and is trying to live a low tox holistic kinda lifestyle. During her whole pregnancy she felt very skeptical about inviting her midwife to her birth as she was aware how a medical midwife can unfortunately get in the way of a physiological birth. She ended up labouring with her partner and dog for 18.5 hours until her body started pushing and she decided to call her midwife. Her baby ended up coming 1.5 hours later shortly after the midwife arrived and her midwife stayed hands off, no one else touched her baby besides her or her partner for a few hours until she wanted her to. She also had a 2nd degree tear and decided against advice to not get any stitches and really believe she healed better because of it. Lauren feels very empowered and proud to have had her first birth at home. Curious about Lauren? Find her on Instagram as @Laurenhadfieldpilcher If you didn’t know already I have 3 really epic free resources that you can access and download at sacredbirthinternational.com There’s two E - books, one called 6 Steps to Having a Natural & Empowering Birth Experience and one called Routine Hospital Birth Procedures Inform yourself and make an Educated Decision! This is a comprehensive E-Book with 28 full pages for your information and assistance in creating an informed birth plan. Whether you are having a hospital, birth center or home birth as you never know where your birth journey will take you. Knowledge is power. Finally, if you are planning a home birth like Lauren then download my free home birth checklist. There will definitely be things in there that you might not have thought of. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on the Natural Birth Podcast we have Amanda. Amanda is a mama of 2 from Texas. She’s a birth photographer, birth assistant, doula and placenta encapsulator and a secretary and social media coordinator for a birth center. She says that she is blessed to mostly work from home and have the ability to homeschool her daughter. In todays episode we get to hear about her two birth stories. The last one I saw powerful photos of on Instagram where Amanda was squatting in such a primal powerful position birthing her baby and I just had to reach out and say ”Hey do you want to share your story on the poddy”, and here she is doing just that. Curious about Amanda? Find her on Instagram as @loverandbeloved   200 Episodes & Special Offer! This is the 200th episode of the natural birth podcast! WOW! And we are coming up to 4 years in a few weeks but first things first! Can you believe it!?! I know many of you listen to each and every one of these episodes to prepare for your natural birth and I am so pleased that I now have 200 unique natural and positive birth stories to help you reprogram your subconscious mind! What an epic resource! And speaking of resources. To celebrate this 200th episode you are welcome into my Online Community The Village for free for a whole month when joining this week! Being a part of my village means monthly live Q&A and sharing circles with me and the village sisters. It means accessing resources and birth nerds, maidens, mothers and magas as well as my sacred birth worker mentees 24/7. It’s a warm, friendly, cozy and hearth centered village that truly supports women in all stages of life, especially around birth and child rearing. And this week you can join for free and get a whole month in the village and meet me and hang out totally free of charge! Yay! Join the Village here! Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on the Natural Birth Podcast we have Carla. Carla is a mama of one from Sydney. She’s a pelvic floor physiotherapist who has worked in some of the largest maternity hospitals in Sydney. Her work has involved supporting women as they recover from third and fourth degree tears, bladder and bowel incontinence, sexual and pelvic pain and prolapse concerns.  Carla is also a yoga and meditation teacher and during her pregnancy she went on a journey to resolve her birth fears, especially the one about tearing and injury to her vagina and pelvic floor, and explore birth's spiritual dimensions. By listening to women’s stories on this podcast and being in community with other women who have had physiological births she was able to go from thinking she’d opt for an elective Cesarean to save her pelvic floor to having a home birth in her bathtub. This episode is so good for you who might have a fear of tearing, a fear that is so common. Carla is excited to share her story with other women to help continue to alleviate birth fears and navigate the often paternalistic nature of maternity care. Curious about Carla? Find her on Instagram as @carlasank If you didn’t know already I have 3 really epic free resources that you can access and download at sacredbirthinternational.com There’s two E-books, one called 6 Steps to Having a Natural & Empowering Birth Experience and one called Routine Hospital Birth Procedures Inform yourself and make an Educated Decision! This is a comprehensive E-Book with 28 full pages for your information and assistance in creating an informed birth plan. Whether you are having a hospital, birth center or home birth as you never know where your birth journey will take you. Knowledge is power. Finally, if you are planning a home birth like Carla then download my free home birth checklist. There will definitely be things in there that you might not have thought of. Well that’s me and my free resources folks. Find them all via the link in the show notes or at sacredbirthinternational.com Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Sophia. Sophia is a mother of 3 from the UK, living in Corfu Greece. She is a midwife, who is obsessed with bringing pregnancy and birth back into the hands, hearts and wombs of women and families. And she is a Sacred Birth Worker Mentee of mine. Imagine my delight to have her both in my mentorship as well as coming on here to share her amazing natural and empowering birth stories! This episode is so very rich as us two midwives cackle away as we tend to do when we meet a soul sister midwife on the same path. Sophia grew up in London to an English mother and Mexican father and has always had a deep interest in pregnancy, birth and in living and working close to the veil between realities. She believes that pregnancy and birth are golden opportunities to find healing and bring us closer to our true authentic selves. After an acting degree, traveling, and directing a production of 'the vagina monologues' she finally realized that her true calling was to be a midwife. And right now she is starting up a home birthing midwifery service in Corfu Greece where the majority of women can only access obstetric care and where the c/s rate is sky high which is expected when you hire a surgeon for your birth! Sophia has had three incredible physiological births, two at home and one in a birth center. The first was long, like an elegant waltz, the second fiery, like a passionate flamenco solo and the third like an improvisation with the stars and source.  Curious about Sophia? Find her on Instagram as @holistic_midwifery Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Natalie. Natalie is a mama of one from the UK, now living in Thailand. She is an artist and a property developer, and a lover of meditation and alternative health and living a unique, authentic life.  Natalie found out she was pregnant whilst on a snowboard season in Japan and was initially absolutely terrified at the thought of birth. She made it her mission to feel confident and calm about her birth by the time her baby arrived. And instead of fear of birth she had a fear of birthing in the hospital and being interfered with. So she chose a home birth with midwives and a doula. Her story is a fast and furious birth with a plot twist. And even though her birth wasn’t the undisturbed birth she might have wanted she was so present, trusting in her body and her intuition and managed to birth her baby in just over 5 hours at home in the pool. She caught her baby by herself and absolutely loves telling her birth story. Curious about Natalie? Find her on instagram as @natalieellisart Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: SACRED BIRTH INTERNATIONAL --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Sarah. Sarah is a mama of 2 from Cornwall, UK. She is a holistic nutritionist and passionate about all aspects of health and wellness, the importance of our connection to nature and living as empowered beings for a happy, healthy life. When Sarah first became pregnant she was fearful of birth, but through claiming it and educating herself and doing daily meditation she ended up transforming her fear into feeling calm and eager to birth. She had a birth center birth for her first baby and a fairly short first birth that made her feel empowered, but nothing compared to her second birth. For her second she dove even deeper into her inner work and reprogramming her mind and ended up having a 3 hour labour that really just felt like one hour. Hear about it all in today's episode! Curious about Sarah? Find her on Instagram as @itsmesarahmartin Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Maria. Maria is a mama of 3 from Sweden. She has a background in journalism and has written three books about pregnancy, birth and the postpartum as well as working as a doula and a massage therapist. She’s also the co-founder of Braido Organics with Kristina that you heard from just a couple of weeks back. And this year she is also starting her journey to become a midwife. She’s a force to be reckoned with in the birth world here in Sweden and I am grateful to call her a friend. In today’s episode she shares about her three home births. Her first being in the US where she lived with her husband at the time, and her other two in Sweden. All of her labours were long in their latent and early phase and fast in their active phase. And all of them were perfect just the way they were.   Curious about Maria? Find her on instagram as @maria.bengtsson.sja This episode is sponsored by Braïdo Organics. For 20% off their entire collection of products go to Barïdo Organics and use the coupon code SACREDFind All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Cory. Cory is a mama of three and soon four from Texas, USA. Her first baby was born in Hawaii where she met her husband. She planned a natural birth that turned into a C/S which she wasn’t happy about and therefore was adamant in having a VBAC for her second. Her second became her redemption birth and she ended up having her baby in the luxury of her own home as she puts it. Her next daughter was also born at home and today Cory has a huge passion for natural birth and is an advocate for other HBAC & VBAC mamas. She is currently planning her 3rd Home Birth after C/S and has no intention of ever birthing in a hospital again. Curious about Cory? Find her on Instagram as @onewildmother Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Kristina Turner. Kristina is a writer, birth activist, sacred birth keeper and red tent women’s circle facilitator with over 25 years of experience. She wrote the book Natural Birth – A Holistic Guide to Pregnancy, Childbirth and Breastfeeding after giving birth to her three children. The births that we will hear all about in this episode. The spiritually transformative experiences she had during these births made her a passionate advocate for the right to undisturbed birth. Kristina believes that the way we treat the natural world is linked to a collectively held, often unconscious, view of the feminine as a resource for exploitation. This has led her to deepen her connection with the sacred feminine and sustainable plant medicine. In 2021 she developed a range of holistic birth support products alongside her business partner Maria Bengtsson. The company they founded, Braïdo Organics, develops exquisite, handmade products that support women to have empowering and transformative births. Kristina trained as a Sacred Birth keeper with Glastonbury Goddess Temple in 2020 and has held similar training in Sweden. She is regularly holding workshops and retreats. Curious about Kristina? Find her on Instagram as @ownyourbirth This episode is sponsored by Braïdo Organics. For 20% off their entire collection of products go to Barïdo Organics and use the coupon code SACRED Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Emma back. Emma is a meditation and yoga teacher as well as an author, podcaster, mentor and speaker from Byron Bay Australia and now a mama of two! Emma was on the poddy in May 2022 sharing her first fast empowering home birth in the episode ”Breaking Ancestral Patterns and choosing Home Birth” Now she is back breaking all the assumptions about second births being faster and easier. Because this one was longer and harder but still so amazing with so much wisdom for her mama years as a mama of two. Emma shares this journey so openly and honestly, giving you so many pearls of wisdom. I believe you’re gonna love this story. Curious about Emma? Find her on Instagram as @emmamaidment_ Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Denise. Denise is a mama of one from Arizona USA. She is a stay at home mom and an Airbnb host. After watching The Business of Being Born by Ricki Lake, her now husband told her, even before they were married or thinking of having babies, that they should home birth. And Denise became fascinated by pregnancy and birth by listening to The Natural Birth Podcast, which led her to make the decision to birth at home with the support of her husband, doula and midwife. Denise ended up having a beautiful home birth, however her placenta wasn’t coming out and by the 3rd hour she and her birth team made the decision to transfer to hospital. She was feeling fine and there was no emergency, but they decided they wanted the help to birth the placenta. Because of the preparation and education Denise had done she could stand up to the OB and be empowered in her decision making in the hospital and felt empowered about her birth even though it didn’t unfold exactly as she’d hoped. A natural birth doesn’t always mean an empowered birth and a medicalized birth doesn’t mean its traumatic. It’s about feeling empowered and in charge of the decisions about your body, baby and birth. And only education as well as the inner work can truly prepare you for the unknown that is birth. Something Denise highly recommends to all first time mamas. Curious about Denise? Find her on Instagram as @derosenise This episode is sponsored by Informed Pregnancy Plus.   Try Informed Pregnancy Plus absolutely free of charge.Just visit informedpregnancy.tv and start watching these inspiring documentaries and films already today. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here:www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message

Today on The Natural Birth Podcast we have Sofia. Sofia is a Swedish mama of 5 who is currently living with her family in France. She is a yoga teacher and homeschooling mama and today she is sharing all of her 5 births and her interesting life journey. She birthed her first baby at home as a 23 year old and then had her second also in Sweden which happened so fast it was an accidental free birth. She then decided with her husband that they wanted to move to France, where they ended up birthing their 3 following children who all ended up more or less being free birthed in their home. But they each had a journey and there was some involvement with midwives and medical personnel on their journey. Sofia’s stories really show that we birth the way we live and the way we are. In her stories you’ll see that the way her life situation was and also her inner world was reflected in the way her birth unfolded. Curious about Sofia? Find her on Instagram as @la_sorcierebeach_ Curious about Needed? Find out more at thisisneeded.com  Use the code THENATURALBIRTHPODCAST for 20% off your first month. Find All of Anna’s Links & Resources here: www.sacredbirthinternational.com/links-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thenaturalbirthpodcast/message