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"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.
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The Patriots’ best-kept secret in their rookie class is an undrafted free agent, but it’s not Efton Chism. Spoiler alert, it’s Elijah Ponder, a 6’3”, 260lb linebacker with insane combine numbers. Phil Perry says it’s a mystery he wasn’t drafted. Listen to an exclusive interview with Ponder, and Phil shares why exactly he likes the rookie so much.Not only that, but Phil also answers a handful of mailbag questions at the end of the show.1:04 - Why Elijah Ponder earned a spot on Patriots 53-man roster3:00 - Elijah Ponder by the numbers8:38 - What Mike Smith had to say about Elijah Ponder11:58 - Phil Perry has an exclusive interview with Elijah Ponder21:30 - Mailbag Questions
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Best player? Most surprising? Phil Perry hands out his superlatives for Patriots training camp. Many young and new players dominate the categories. Plus, with cut-down day just days away, Phil discusses his 53-man roster projection. Finally, you hear from Matthew Berry about all things fantasy football related to the Patriots. Are there any players actually worth picking up this season?1:01 - Patriots camp superlatives1:25 - Best player2:56 - Most surprising player3:51 - Most disappointing player5:28 - Biggest takeaway9:34 - Best free agent signing12:26 - Rookie of camp14:26 - 53-man roster projection22:10 - Interview with Matthew Berry
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Phil Perry breaks down Day 2 of the joint practice with the Vikings. He discusses the offense’s struggles, highlights a bright spot in Drake Maye, and provides reacts to the latest on Stefon Diggs.1:00 Breaking down Day 2 of joint practices in Minnesota14:00 Stock Watch after two days with the Vikings18:00 - What's going on with Stefon Diggs?
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Phil Perry is back with a new Next Pats Podcast. Phil is sharing his takeaways from the Patriots' joint practice vs. the Commanders, how DeMario Douglas will be utilized in Josh McDaniels' offense, and how Mack Hollins is quickly emerging after being on PUP. Later, Phil answers your mailbag questions!01:00: The Patriots 'belonged' during joint practice with Commanders.05:00: Why Phil believes Pop Douglas will be the main receiver for the Patriots in 20259:55: We hear from Pop Douglas, how being tired of losing is motivating him in 2025 and the impact of Josh McDaniels12:40: Drake Maye has high praise for Pop Douglas19:00: Zay Flowers could be a good comp for how McDaniels can use Pop Douglas21:50: Takeaways from Drake Maye's day vs. the Commanders33:50: Phil is answering your mailbag questions!
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Phil Perry shares his main takeaways from Day 8 of training camp practice for the New England Patriots before welcoming in offensive tackle Morgan Moses for an exclusive 1-on-1 interview. 1:30- Phil shares what’s impressed him the most about Drake Maye so far in camp3:20- Kyle Williams is already showing his resiliency and ability to bounce back from bad plays5:40- Offensive line update7:35- Morgan Moses on his first camp with the Patriots and working with the team’s rookie linemen15:20- Phil previews his potential 53-man roster, including a shocking cut in the receiver room
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Phil Perry is back with another episode of the Next Pats Podcast! In this episode, Phil breaks down what he's seen through the first two days of Patriots training camp, whose stock is up, whose stock is down, plus an exclusive interview with Hunter Henry. 3:00 - Where young Patriots sit in their respective pecking orders, how Drake Maye looks through first two practices in Josh McDaniels' offense8:45 - Not a great two days for the 2024 draft class, including the absence of Ja'Lynn Polk.11:30 - TreVeyon Henderson and Kyle Williams' stock is up13:10 - Pecking order at WR16:00 - Breaking down emerging trends in the NFL: 2 TE sets20:10 - Exclusive with Hunter Henry after day 2 of training camp
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Phil Perry welcomes in JP Finlay of NBC4 Sports Washington to get his thoughts on what's going on between the Washington Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin, before sharing his camp battles to watch and opening up the mailbag to answer your questions! 1:00- Phil shares his thoughts on the contract dispute between Terry McLaurin and the Commanders and what it could mean for the Patriots6:55- JP Finlay joins to share his thoughts on how likely it is that McLaurin could become available and why he thinks Washington is hesitant to extend the receiver at the moment20:30- Phil previews Patriots training camp by sharing his five breakout candidates, and five position battles to watch38:10- Phil opens up the mailbag to answer your questions
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Phil Perry dives deep into NFL pass protection, ranking every team's offensive line. But where do the New England Patriots stand when it comes to protecting Drake Maye? Have they truly done enough to give him the clean pocket he needs to succeed? Find out where the Patriots rank league-wide and what it means for Maye's development.4:00-Ranking the offensive lines around the NFL8:30-Which category do the Patriots fall under?13:30-Phil's full breakdown of the Patriots’ overall ranks16:30-Overall rankings, which team protected their QB the best?
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Phil Perry continues his "Three P's" series - playmakers, play-callers, and protection. In this episode, he breaks down the play-callers, and where Josh McDaniels ranks among offensive play-callers in the league. Phil also breaks down how McDaniels can get Drake Maye and the Pats to exceed expectations. 03:30: Josh McDaniels is the most interesting person to watch at 1 Patriot Place this season11:00: If Drake Maye can handle everything Josh McDaniels throws at him, the offense could be better than expected 18:00: Don't be surprised if DeMario Douglas is used more under McDaniels this season26:33: Ranking all offensive play-callers in the NFL40:00: Josh McDaniels ranks as 11th overall play-caller in the NFL
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Phil Perry kicks off his "Three P's" series - playmakers, playcallers, and protection. He starts with a deep dive into playmakers, ranking the top talent across the league and analyzing where the Patriots stack up. Plus, Phil answers your mailbag questions. 1:00 - Overall thoughts on Patriots' group of weapons 20:00 - Playmaker rankings 53:00 - Answering your mailbag questions
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Phil Perry is wrapping up what he saw from Patriots minicamp, giving us his 'way too early' 52-man roster projection and wrapping up with his latest mailbag!02:00 - Takeaways from Patriots minicamp - offense improves but still a lot of work to do to get to where they want to be in the regular season09:30 - No-huddle period miscommunication between Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry and Drake Maye11:55 - Phil is concerned about the interior offensive line15:48 - Patriots secondary looked NASTY! Christian Gonzalez the MVP of minicamp23:30 - Drake Maye discusses being a leader and benefit of being hard on teammates24:40 - "Ridiculously early 53-man roster prediction"42:50 - Phil Perry's mailbag!48:00 - Kendrick Bourne not a lock to make the roster
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Phil Perry is back with a new episode of the Next Pats Podcast. Phil discusses Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, 8 things to look out for during Patriots minicamp next week, and takes your questions with a new mailbag!2:15: Aaron Rodgers to the Pittsburgh Steelers - what it means for the Patriots and what NFL evaluators are saying about him7:45: 8 things to look out for at Patriots mini camp next week, including a deep dive into Stefon Diggs and Rookie Kyle Williams18:00: We hear from receivers coach Todd Downing and get his thoughts about Kyle Williams25:40: What Phil is hoping to see from TreVeyon Henderson in Josh McDaniels' offense 38:00: Hear from TE coach Thomas Brown about finding the right players to play fullback.46:00: Mailbag! Phil answers your questions
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Phil's tackling all your mailbag questions this week, covering everything from Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs to how the Patriots might approach the Stefon Diggs situation. He also dives into whether growing pains could linger into the start of the season and wraps it all up with a breakdown of his latest quarterback rankings 4:00-Examining Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs 16:00 - Should we expect growing pains to carry over into the season? 28:30 - How will the Patriots handle the Diggs situation? 49:00 - Phil breaks down his QB rankings
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Phil Perry empties his notebook with his biggest takeaways from Patriots OTAs on Tuesday. Later, Phil talks with Cal’s head coach Justin Wilcox to get to know more about Craig Woodson. 4:00-Let's not panic about Drake Maye throwing 4 interceptions11:00-How much will be on Maye’s plate under a Josh McDaniels’ offense?15:30-The offensive variety we saw from McDaniels18:30-First impressions of the rookies 28:00-Justin Wilcox interview
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An undrafted free agent RB who used to be a steer-wrestler and turned down NIL money to stay a captain at UC Davis?!? Phil Perry talks with UC Davis head coach, Tim Plough, to get more insight on Lan Larison. 2:00-Perry's first impressions of Lan Larison at rookie mini-camp 6:30-Tim Plough on the football character of Larison11:00-Plough on where the Patriots can use Lan 21:00-Lan turned down NIL money to stay with his team
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Phil Perry opens up the notebook and shares his main takeaways from the Patriots' first day of rookie minicamp. 2:20- Phil reacts to defensive coordinator Terrell Williams not being at practice due to a "traumatic" health scare4:40- Who was, and wasn't, in attendance for the rookies on Friday?8:20- Takeaway 1: Mike Vrabel's hands-on coaching approach continues to impress and entertain12:10- Takeaway 2: Will Campbell was at left tackle -- and ONLY at left tackle on Friday16:30- Takeaway 3: Josh McDaniels was loud and clearly excited to be back on the field running an offense18:25- Takeaway 4: Kyle Williams looks like an "X"/ deep-threat receiver... and seems to have that dog in him
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Phil Perry talks with Aaron Best, Head coach at Eastern Washington University, to get his scouting report on Efton Chism III. How similar is his game to former EWU Eagle Cooper Kupp? Later, Phil breaks down his ‘most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster heading into next season. 1:00-The scouting report on Efton Chism III6:30-Coach Aaron Best on the football character of Chism12:00-Could Chism be Cooper Kupp 2.0?26:30-’Most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster
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Phil Perry talks with James White to get his reaction to the Patriots drafting TreVeyon Henderson in the 2025 NFL Draft. James explains why this was a “home run” pick for the Patriots, and breaks down what he likes about Henderson’s game. 6:00-James White calls TreVeyon Henderson a “home run” pick8:00-Biggest challenge for Henderson to learn Josh McDaniels offense12:30-White breaks down highlights from Henderson19:00-Analyzing Henderson's impressive pass protection
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Phil Perry gives his draft grades for the Patriots’ 2025 Draft; which players can impact the team next season? Later, Tyler Dunne joins to give a Buffalo Bills perspective on how the Patriots roster is shaping up...and whether they are the next-best team in the AFC East.3:00-Phil gives his report card for the Patriots’ draft14:30-Tyler Dunne on the state of the Buffalo Bills29:00-What should Patriots fan expect from Mack Hollins?37:00-Josh Allen/Drake Maye rookie season comparison41:00-Can the Patriots make the playoffs this season?53:00-How Stefon Diggs will make an impact in New England
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Tom Curran and Phil Perry give their complete recap of the Patriots’ 2025 NFL Draft. How well did the Patriots execute a game plan to address all their roster needs?1:00- Patriots draft for value in the first five rounds11:10- Breaking down the roster fits for each of the team's draft picks32:30- Which pick made you wince the most?36:00- What was your favorite pick?37:15- Live reaction to the Patriots drafting a long snapper (Phil was not happy)42:45- What happened with Sheddeur Sanders?51:20- Live reaction to the Patriots' final pick of the draft
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