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The Oak Spring Podcast is the voice of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation in Upperville, Virginia. The monthly podcast discusses how the legacy of Mrs. Bunny Mellon is continued through its courses, workshops, residencies and other public events. Guests include artists, writers, scientists, researchers and alumni whose work has become an integral part of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation community. Each episode will explore a topic related to Oak Spring's mission and calendar of events.
Host: Chris Stafford
Website: osgf.org
Email: max@osfg.org
Instagram: @oakspringgardenfoundation
Twitter: @oak_spring
Host: Chris Stafford
Website: osgf.org
Email: max@osfg.org
Instagram: @oakspringgardenfoundation
Twitter: @oak_spring
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Spring daffodils may seem like a distant dream as we head into the dormant months of winter, but now is also the time when bulb planting sets the stages for next year’s bloom. This month’s episode features two bulb experts who have led programs at Oak Spring, Jason Delaney and Sara Van Beck, in conversation with each other about the art and science of daffodils and the important role they play in the future of gardens amidst a changing climate.Jason Delaney is a graduate of Michigan State University’s Institute of Agricultural Technology. His horticultural career began as a student laborer at MSU’s Beal Botanical Garden where his love of public gardening was planted. Following an internship at the world-renowned Missouri Botanical Garden in 1995, he accepted a full-time position there for nearly 21 colorful years, ultimately as North Gardens Supervisor and Bulb Collections Specialist. Today, Jason owns and operates Professional Horticultural Services, and PHS Daffodils. Jason’s prized plant collections are situated on nearly four acres of family land where over 3,500 varieties of daffodils, nearly 2,000 varieties of daylilies, and over 500 historic irises are grown for small-scale commercial production, breeding, evaluation, and preservation. Jason has been hybridizing daffodils and daylilies, and dabbling in breeding trumpet lilies and crinums, since the 1990s; a few of his cultivars are now in commercial production. Follow his adventures on Instagram, at phsdaffodils and phsdaylilies.Sara Van Beck is a former museum curator with the National Park Service and has served as an American Daffodil Society (ADS) board member since 2004. She established the ADS Display Garden program in 2007 and then served as the ADS Historics Committee chair for eleven years. Her garden history work includes historic research for Atlanta’s Historic Oakland Cemetery, and serving on the Acquisitions Committee of the Cherokee Garden Library, Atlanta History Center. As a Corresponding Member to the Royal Horticulture Society Narcissus Classification Advisory Group, she led a three-year effort to revise the classification for tazettas. Author of Daffodils in American Gardens, 1733-1940 (2015) co-author of Daffodil in Florida: A Field Guide to the Coastal South (2004), and numerous articles published in The Daffodil Journal, The Magnolia, journal of the Southern Garden History Society, and Florida Gardening.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
In the words of Connie Zheng, seeds hold the past and the future. This month's episode features interviews with Jessamine Finch and Connie Zheng who each engage with the way seeds are shared and dispersed. Jessamine speaks about her interest in the science of the natural world, and work with saving and sharing seeds, most recently on the eastern coast of the US. Then Chris speaks to Connie Zheng an artist whose work is influenced by the metaphorical significance of seeds.Connie Zheng is a Chinese-born artist, writer and experimental filmmaker based out of xučyun (also known as Oakland, California). She works with maps, seeds, food, environmental histories, speculative fiction, field recordings and hand-drawn animation. Her projects frequently include participatory scenarios and seek to diagram dynamic relationships between human and more-than-human worlds, as well as the interplay between memory, culture, and place. Projects such as maps of toxic sites and environmental remediation, speculative seed exchanges, seed-making kits, mooncake design workshops and improvisational pseudo-documentaries are strategies for navigating diasporic memory, the continued weight of history, and possibilities for collective imagining amidst ongoing and future ecological transformations.Her projects have been exhibited and screened internationally, including at the Peabody Essex Museum (Salem, MA), the San Francisco Asian Art Museum, Sa Sa Art Projects (Phnom Penh, Cambodia), Framer Framed (Amsterdam, Netherlands) and Salt Beyoğlu (Istanbul, Turkey), and her work is held in the collections of the Kadist Foundation and the David Rumsey Map Center at Stanford University. She has received fellowships and awards from the Headlands Center for the Arts, the Oak Spring Garden Foundation, and the Puffin Foundation, among other organizations, and was a 2023 YBCA 100 awardee. In 2021 she published a chapter in the Routledge Companion to Contemporary Art, Visual Culture, and Climate Change, and her essays have appeared in The Back Room at Small Press Traffic, SFMOMA’s Open Space and Errant Journal. She graduated with BAs in Economics and English from Brown University and an MFA in Art Practice from the University of California — Berkeley, and is currently a PhD Candidate in Visual Studies at the University of California — Santa Cruz.Jessamine Finch is a botanist and seed ecologist working in plant conservation. She has held positions at Framingham State University, Native Plant Trust, and the Chicago Botanic Garden. Jessamine holds a PhD in Plant Biology and Conservation from Northwestern University, and was the 2022 Plant Conservation Biology Fellow at Oak Spring.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
What does Oak Spring mean when we say we host 'researchers'? All sorts of projects are encompassed by this title! Listen to this episode to learn about two Oak Spring researchers, Kathleen (Kat) Gutierrez and Lauren Cannady. Their projects are inspired by and utilize scholarly literature, oral histories as well as everyday conversations, and of course, the Oak Spring Library collection. Kat shares about her research on the field of study of botany in the Philipines, and how botany there has been impacted by colonial influences and vernacular culture. Lauren shares about her research on black locust, and how it was shaped by her time at Oak Spring.Kathleen (Kat) C Gutierrez is interested in the politcs of botanical life and plant worldmaking in modern histories of the Philippines and Southeast Asia. Her first book, titled Unmaking Botany: Science and Vernacular Knowledge in the Colonial Philippines (Duke University Press, March 2025), expands the "vernacular" in the history of colonial botany and examines practical and epistemological tensions in the Philippines during the science's internationalist acceleration.Her next project, one drawing on oral histories tentatively titled A World in a Plant, examines five plant species (e.g. the Tricyrtis imeldae, named after former First Lady Imelda Marcos) as lenses into the plant sciences in the Cold War Philippines and the neighboring decolonized states of Southeast Asia. She builds on literature that has prioritized foreign policy, dictatorship, party politics, and civil unrest to contend that plants—and the scientists behind their study—were also instrumental to regional decolonization and notions of a Southeast Asian science.Lauren R. Cannady is a scholar working at the intersections of art and architectural history, intellectual history, and the environmental humanities. Her research and teaching explore artistic production as the material evidence of intellectual trends in early modern Europe and colonial North America. She is co-editor of Crafting Enlightenment: Artisanal Histories and Transnational Networks, which appeared in the Oxford University Studies in the Enlightenment series in 2021, and her current research project is a book manuscript on early modern taxonomies of knowledge and the ordering of the natural world through patterned gardens and vernacular botanicals. Her research has been supported by the Huntington Library, Oak Spring Garden Foundation, the Clark Art Institute, and the Deutsches Forum für Kunstgeschichte. She holds a PhD in Art History from New York University.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
During this episode host Chris Stafford chats with two artists working in very specialized mediums. Goldie Poblador is an interdisicplinary artist who has been working in glass most recently. Chris and Goldie chat about Goldie's interest in glass, and the ecofeminist themes of her work. Later in the episode Chris interviews book binder, book maker, and book tool maker Brien Biedler. We hope you enjoy listening along and learning about these two artists and their work in niche mediums.Goldie Poblador is best known for her multi-sensory installations that merge glass sculpture, scent, video and performance. She specializes in glass flameworking, a technique primarily reserved for Western voices and which she aims to shift. Her work combines Filipino mythology with the 19th century tradition of sculpting life forms in glass as popularized by the Blaschkas. She has been exhibited internationally at such institutions as Urban Glass, 601Artspace, the Yangon Secretariat Building Knockdown Center, Islip Art Museum, The RISD museum, Cemeti Art House, Singapore Art Museum, Bangkok Art and Culture Center, Cité Internationale des Arts, Fine Art Museum of Hanoi, Lopez Memorial Museum and Library, Metropolitan Museum of Manila, The National Museum of the Filipino People and The Cultural Center of the Philippines. She has received a grant from the Foundation of Contemporary Arts, a President’s Scholarship from the Rhode Island School of Design, and the Philippine AIR Prize from Alliance Française de Manille. She has completed residencies at the Corning Museum of Glass, Oak Spring Garden Foundation, Wassaic Project, The Hambidge Center, MASS MoCa, La Fragua and the Cité International des Arts. She received her BFA in Studio Arts from the University of the Philippines in 2009. In 2015, she obtained her MFA in Glass at the Rhode Island School of Design.Brien Beidler is a bookbinder and toolmaker who explores the structure, aesthetics, and impact of pre-industrial bindings in a 21st century context. In Brien’s practice, bookbinding and toolmaking work in parallel to investigate the role books have played in the history of ideas and other facets of cultural history. In his binding, Brien is deeply inspired by the processes of historic bookbinders and uses tools and techniques that replicate the structural and visual properties of the books they made. In his toolmaking, Brien specializes in hand-engraved finishing tools and other decorative stamps for bookbinders, leatherworkers, and woodworkers. See a video of his process here. He also teaches workshops in bookbinding, gold tooling with egg glair, and finishing tool making, and is on the board of Co-Directors for the Paper and Book Intensive. Brien holds an undergraduate degree in Chemistry from the College of Charleston, where he was first introduced to bookbinding in the library’s Special Collections. He was the Director of the Bindery and Conservation Lab at the Charleston Library Society from 2012-2016 before establishing his own practice.Brien is currently based in Minneapolis, MN where he shares a studio with Wren, his curmudgeonly spaniel.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
Writers Victoria Kornick and Tess Taylor join Chris to talk about their creative writing projects. The natural world, plants, farming and gardening are all centeral to Victoria and Tess's practices, and in this episode each writer explores the roots of her interests and shares a bit about the current projects bringing them joy. Victoria Kornick is is a writer from Virginia. Her poetry and personal essays appear in The Yale Review, American Chordata, the Nashville Review, At Length Magazine, Rattle: Poets Respond, No Tokens Journal, Cosmonauts Avenue, LARB: Voluble, and The Greensboro Review. She holds an MFA from New York University, where she was a Rona Jaffe fellow, and she has received support from the Elizabeth George Foundation, the Community of Writers, the Oak Spring Garden Foundation, and the Saltonstall Foundation for the Arts. She is currently a PhD candidate in the Literature and Creative Writing program at the University of Southern California. Victoria lives in Los Angeles with her family.Tess Taylor’s body of work deals with place, ecology, memory and cultural reckoning. She published five celebrated poetry collections: The Misremembered World, The Forage House, Last West: Roadsongs for Dorothea Lange, Work & Days, and Rift Zone. She has also served as the on-air poetry reviewer for NPR’s All Things Considered for over a decade. Her work as a cultural critic appears in in Harpers Magazine, The Atlantic, The Kenyon Review, Poetry, Tin House, The Times Literary Supplement, CNN, and The New York Times. She is currently at work on two plays, one of which is a stage adaptation of her book of poems about American photographer Dorothea Lange. This fall, she’ll publish her first full length poetry anthology: Leaning Toward Light: Poems for Gardens and the Hands that Tend Them, a collection of contemporary gardening poems, for an era of climate crisis. She lives just outside Berkeley California.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
In this episode of the Oak Spring Podcast Host Chris Stafford has conversations with Charlotte Lorick and Kandis (Kandy) Phillips about abundant bird populations at Oak Spring. Charlotte discusses Oak Spring's practices and the successes Oak Spring has had with a certain bird populations including bobolinks, kestrels and more. Kandy talks about her artist residency at Oak Spring, and the time she spent walking through the fields observing, painting and drawing birds. Charlotte Lorick is Head of Biodiversity Conservation at OSGF. She specializes in conservation land stewardship, ecological restoration and plant community ecology. She has worked for over a decade exploring human relationships with the land, developing conservation research and educational programs, and implementing regenerative land stewardship strategies that promote resilient ecosystems and biodiversity. Her work integrates science, art, humanities, and community outreach to inspire conservation action on public and private land. Ecology and plants are central to both Charlotte’s personal and professional life. Outside of work, you will find her immersed in the wonders of plants and the outdoors in other ways including foraging, nutrition, fiber arts, hiking, canoeing, gardening, and herbalism.Kandis Vermeer Phillips is a metalpoint and watercolor artist, and has exhibited widely. She is a recipient of a Botanical Artist in Residency award and several Perennial Alumni Residency awards at the Oak Spring Garden Foundation, and a Julius I Brown Award for her project, Poetry in Silver: The Language of Flowers in the Works of Emily Dickinson. Her work is included in the collections of The Archives of Falconry, Arkansas Museum of Fine Arts, The British Museum, The Hunt Institute for Botanical Documentation, The National Gallery of Art, The National Museum of Natural History, The Oak Spring Garden Foundation, The Woodson Museum and numerous private collections.Her work is included in the recently published Botanical Art Techniques: A Comprehensive Guide, and Silverpoint and Metalpoint Drawing: A Complete guide to the Medium. A number of her Residency inspired pieces are in the show “Oak Spring: A Place to Grow” at the Oak Spring Garden Foundation, Upperville, VA. Her illustration of the Northern Cardinal was selected by the United States Postal Service for their stamped envelope formats, released in 2023.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
This episode focuses on the non-plant companions commonly found in gardens, namely fungi and insects. Chris Stafford is joined by Dr. Brad Bolman, a recent Interdisciplinary Resident at Oak Spring, and Dr. Rea Manderino, Oak Spring's full-time Ecologist and Collections Specialist. Brad's current research and forthcoming book explore the emergence of the field of mycology or the study of fungi and mushrooms. Mushrooms were often met with trepedation in the past, but in recent decades mushrooms have become accepted as an important source of food and medicine. Brad discusses the scientist who played a key role in this shift, and more. This interview is followed by an interview with Dr. Rea Manderino who explains the important role insects play in understanding plant communities. Rea elaborates upon some of the ways that she is researching insect populations on the Oak Spring landscape.Dr. Brad Bolman is a Postdoctoral Member in the School of Historical Studies at the Institute for Advanced Study. He received a PhD in History of Science from Harvard University. His first book, Lab Dog: What Global Science Owes American Beagles, is forthcoming from the University of Chicago Press and tells the story of the emergence of the laboratory dog as an experimental subject. It shows how locally bred beagles raised in labs across America became transnational laboratory commodities and how scientists came to understand themselves and what it means to be human through beagles. He is currently at work on a new book, Rotten Beauty, which tells the globe-spanning story of fungi’s fascinating, unexpected, life-sustaining, and at times deadly reign throughout human history. The book focuses on the complex and singular lives of mycologists and others who spent their lives trying to make sense of the mysteries of fungal life. It is about how the instrumental use and application of fungi helped make our modern world possible, and how that modern world opened countless avenues for new fungal perils. It is a story about balance, maintained on a knife’s edge.Dr. Rea Manderino has served as OSGF’s Ecologist and Collections Specialist since 2022. Shespecializes in insect conservation and invasion ecology. Her work bridges the conservation ofplants with the insects that rely on them at both the scale of the individual stem to the broaderplant community across the landscape. She collaborates with researchers in the area andaround the country to assess changes in insect communities over time. Rea also serves as thecurator for the preserved Biological Collection, coordinating the creation of the insect collectionand herbarium. She leads several insect-themed programs at OSGF, highlighting invertebratebiodiversity and their relationships with plants.Rea received her PhD in Entomology from SUNY – College of Environmental Science andForestry in 2021, her MS in Environmental Science from the University of Virginia in 2013, andher BA in Biology from the University of Chicago in 2009. She grew up in central Kansas andhas lived in Virginia since 2009, currently residing on 5 acres of old-growth forest in PrinceWilliam County. When she is not distracted by bugs, she enjoys gardening, crocheting,watching movies, reading vintage textbooks, planning road trips, and spending time with her family.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
Host Chris Stafford is joined by Sir Peter Crane, the President of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation, and Rachel Heslop, Senior Projects Coordinator at Oak Spring. In separate interviews with Chris, Peter and Rachel discuss the origins of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation; some of the foundation's current projects and objectives, while also and shedding light on Mrs. Mellon's vision for the Oak Spring property and the historical precedences of the site.Sir Peter Crane FRS is President of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation in Virginia. He joined Oak Spring after seven years as Dean of the Yale University School of Forestry and Environmental Studies - the Yale environment school. Originally from Kettering in the United Kingdom, Peter trained and worked at the University of Reading before moving to Indiana University in the US in 1981 for his postdoctoral studies. In addition to Yale, his career since the early 1980s has included positions at the Field Museum in Chicago, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew and The University of Chicago. Peter is a specialist in the diversity of plant life, including its fossil history, evolution and conservation. Peter and his wife Elinor, who works as a volunteer at the foundation, came to Oak Spring in 2016. Peter was attracted by the opportunity to create new programs focused on plants, gardens and landscapes that also honor the legacy of Mrs. Mellon. Rachel Heslop is the Senior Project Coordinator at the Oak Spring Garden Foundation. Originallyfrom the UK, Rachel holds a BA in Archaeology and History of Art and an MA in Egyptian Archaeology, both from University College London. After a decade in the rare book trade, she studied for a new career in the horticultural industry. Upon moving to the United States, Rachel worked for the landscape architecture firm Oehme, van Sweden in Washington, DC and was part of the project team that led to the renewal of the White House Rose Garden in 2020. More recently, she conducted research on the history and evolution of the Oak Spring gardens as part of a cultural landscape report.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
Host Chris Stafford is joined by ecologist, Michael Gaige, and artist, Elizabeth Webb. The two guests discuss their on-going projects and ways of interpreting the landscape. Michael Gaige is an independent consulting ecologist based in upstate New York. His work explores the intersection of nature, culture, and history at the landscape level. Michael works with organizations, private landowners, and design teams on park and landscape projects, historical ecology inventories, and conservation planning for natural areas. He wrote detailed historical and landscape inventories for the Oak Spring Garden Foundation main site and its adjacent Rokeby farm. Michael teaches field studies programs for several colleges and universities. Michael’s website: https://www.knowyourland.com/Elizabeth M. Webb is an artist and filmmaker based in Atlanta, GA, and was an Interdisciplinary Resident at Oak Spring in 2022. Her work is invested in issues surrounding race and identity, often using the lens of her own family history of migration and racial passing to explore larger, systemic constructs and the renegotiation of their borders. She has screened and exhibited nationally and internationally, and in 2023 received a Ford Foundation JustFilms Development Grant for her forthcoming feature length film, Artificial Horizon.Webb is co-editor with Roberta Uno and Daniela Alvarez of the anthology FUTURE/PRESENT: Arts in a Changing America (Duke University Press, 2024).Elizabeth’s website: https://www.elizabethmwebb.com/Current solo exhibit: a bearing tree is a witness; an oak is an echo on view at the Julie Collins Smith Museum of Fine Art Janurary 23, 2024 - July 7, 2024Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter!Website: https://www.osgf.org/Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
The Oak Spring Podcast is the voice of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation in Upperville, Virginia. The monthly podcast discusses how the legacy of Mrs. Bunny Mellon is continued through its courses, workshops, residencies and other public events. Guests include artists, writers, scientists, researchers and alumni whose work has become an integral part of the Oak Spring Garden Foundation community. Each episode will explore a topic related to Oak Spring's mission and calendar of events. Danielle Eady, Programs Director at OSGF introduces OSGF and what to expect in future episodes.Host: Chris StaffordOak Spring website: https://www.osgf.org/Subscribe to the Oak Spring Newsletter:Email: program@osgf.orgInstagram: @oakspringgardenfoundationTwitter: @oak_springFacebook: Oak Spring Garden Foundation
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