The Off Duty Podcast - Law Enforcement

First responders face immense challenges, especially when it comes to mental health and PTSD. In this powerful episode, guest Andrew Douglas, a firefighter and co-creator of a resource for first responders struggling with PTSD, shares his personal experiences and insights into the importance of addressing these issues within the law enforcement and firefighting communities.Together, we explore the emotional toll of working in emergency services, the need for self-care and support systems, and the potential benefits of using innovative tools like the Siento app to help manage PTSD symptoms. About Andrew DouglasRetire Firefighter/ParamedicCreator of Siento.aiWA/Costa RicaFollow Andrew DouglasWebsiteInstagramFacebookTikTokChapters:(0:00:00) - PTSD and First Responders' Mental Health(0:04:14) - Trauma & Resilience in Fire Service(0:12:46) - First Responder PTSD and Seeking Help(0:27:17) - Siento App(0:37:32) - First Responder in Costa Rica & App(0:44:30) - Support First Responders============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the “Fund the First” platform and helping first responders in need. Get your coffee here!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

In this re-released episode, I interview retired police officer Paulie Lewis, who was medically retired after being shot twice while responding to a domestic violence incident.Through the interview, Lewis discusses his physical and mental journey to recovery and clarifies how the media's portrayal of such incidents differs from the reality of their long-lasting effects on people's lives. Lewis encourages listeners to consider the layers and complexities of law enforcement work that exist beyond what is depicted in mainstream media.About Paulie LewisMedical retired after 2 yearsFrom New HampshireFollow Paulie LewisInstagramTikTokChapters:(0:00:00) - The Purpose of Law Enforcement(0:04:45) - Recovering From Injury(0:14:24) - Advocating for Law Enforcement(0:24:48) - Social Media and Law Enforcement(0:34:08) - Disney and Life's Value(0:39:20) - Take Care and Show Love============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the “Fund the First” platform and help first responders in need. Get your coffee here!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

In this episode, we break free from the "pigeonhole" mindset and explore alternative paths, such as entrepreneurship in land investing and seller financing. My guest, Brent Bowers, a former military officer turned entrepreneur and CEO of Land Shark, shares his journey of finding financial and personal freedom through land investing. We delve into the world of wholesaling real estate and discuss the importance of following smart money and seizing opportunities in the land market. We also discuss the risks involved and the importance of conducting due diligence and research when buying parcels of land. Furthermore, we explore how to use PropStream to find potential land deals and make offers to landowners. We also discuss strategies for finding buyers for these properties and the benefits of acting as the middleman in land transactions. Finally, we discuss the resources provided by the Land Shark program and acknowledge the growing trend of individuals leaving the law enforcement profession. There are alternative career options available, and if you're considering a transition, don't hesitate to reach out for advice and support. Remember, there is life after law enforcement. Don't miss this episode!About Brent Bowers8 yrs U.S. Army OfficerEntrepreneurCEO of The Land Sharks Wholesale Real Estate CoachFloridaFollow Brent BowersFacebookInstagramYouTubeChapters:(0:00:00) - The Power of Entrepreneurship(0:05:59) - Wholesaling Real Estate(0:10:34) - Buy and Sell Vacant Land(0:18:21) - Buying and Selling Land for Profit(0:30:09) - Benefits of Land Shark Program(0:36:00) - Life After Law EnforcementChapter Summaries:(0:00:00) - The Power of Entrepreneurship (6 Minutes)In this episode, we explore the concept of breaking free from the "pigeonhole" mindset that often keeps people, particularly those in law enforcement and the military, from pursuing other opportunities and passions. The guest, Brent Bowers, is a former military officer who is now an entrepreneur, CEO of Land Shark, and a wholesale real estate coach. He shares his journey of breaking free from the mold and finding financial and personal freedom through land investing and seller financing. The conversation highlights the importance of considering alternative paths in order to achieve a fulfilling and balanced life.(0:05:59) - Wholesaling Real Estate (5 Minutes)In this section, we delve into the world of wholesaling real estate, specifically vacant land. The process involves getting a piece of land under contract at a discounted price and then selling the purchase agreement to someone else for a slightly higher price. This method provides an opportunity for those who may not have the funds to purchase a property outright, allowing them to make a down payment and monthly payments instead. The key is finding that one landowner out of a hundred who is willing to sell at a discount. These deals can be assigned to cash buyers, builders, developers, or even individuals just looking for a piece of land.(0:10:34) - Buy and Sell Vacant Land (8 Minutes)As we continue our...

In this episode, I dive into the incredible 45-year law enforcement career of Susan Welch Rodriguez, an author, speaker, private investigator, songwriter, and musician from Texas. We explore her journey from starting as a clerk in 1978 to adapting to numerous changes in the field, such as the transition to semi-automatic weapons and the introduction of computers in squad cars. We also discuss her memoir, "She's a County Mountie: From Bulletproof Vest to Armor of God," recounting her encounters with fugitives, dangerous situations, and the emotional impact of these events on her life. Susan shares her struggles with identity, depression, and post-traumatic stress after retiring from law enforcement and how her faith in Jesus and the transformative power of God led her to a new beginning in prison ministry. We also touch on her work with inmates, the importance of forgiveness, and the impact it can have on changing lives. Finally, we wrap up the episode by discussing the process of writing and publishing a book from the perspective of someone in law enforcement and our new coffee brand, Blue Java, which supports first responders through our partnership with Fund the First. Don't miss this inspiring and captivating episode!About Susan Welch-Rodriguez45 Yrs in LEAuthor & SpeakerPrivate InvestigatorSongwriter and MusicianTexasFollow Susan Welch-RodriguezWebsite: https://www.susanthecop.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/susan.rodriguez.7731Chapters:(0:00:00) - Law Enforcement Transition(0:10:29) - Enforcing the Law(0:22:07) - Writing a Law Book(0:26:02) - Accepting Jesus for a New Beginning(0:40:03) - Supporting First Responders Through CoffeeChapter Summaries:(0:00:00) - Law Enforcement Transition (10 Minutes)In this episode, we dive into the fascinating 45-year law enforcement career of Susan Welch Rodriguez, an author, speaker, private investigator, songwriter, and musician from Texas. Susan shares how she started as a clerk in 1978, eventually finding her way to the streets in 1984. Over the years, she has adapted to numerous changes in the field, from the transition to semi-automatic weapons to the introduction of computers in squad cars. Despite retiring in 2009, Susan continues to serve as a volunteer in the sheriff's posse, patrolling on horseback and working special events.(0:10:29) - Enforcing the Law (12 Minutes)In this segment, we explore the inspiration behind Susan Welch Rodriguez's memoir titled "She's a County Mountie: From Bulletproof Vest to Armor of God" Susan shares the challenges she faced while writing and how her experiences as a police officer influenced her writing process. The book recounts her encounters with fugitives, dangerous situations, and the emotional impact of these events on her life. We also discuss the importance of sharing her experiences to help others navigate through difficult trials and crises. The memoir is available on Amazon.com.(0:22:07) - Writing a Law Book (4 Minutes)We discuss the process of writing and publishing a book from the perspective of someone in law enforcement. The key takeaway is to just start writing and not worry about what others might think - the hardest part is getting it on paper. Once the story is written, it can be cleaned up and refined....

I had the pleasure of catching up with Officer Darren Derby, a law enforcement professional with 22 years of experience and a local celebrity in Massachusetts. We discussed how the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted community policing, Officer Derby's new role as the department's full-time safety officer, and the introduction of a Comfort Dog program. We also dove into Officer Derby's personal journey with mental health, exploring his experiences with depression and ADHD.Additionally, we touched on the origins of his "get out of your cruiser" hashtag, the importance of listening and community support, and the benefits of having a comfort dog like his standard poodle, Winston. Finally, we announced the launch of Java Blue, a coffee brand with a cause that supports first responders in need. Join us for this heartfelt and informative conversation with Officer Darren Derby, and make sure to check out his inspiring work on social media!About Darren DerbyPryor Guest EP 3 - March 2020Kind of like a local celebrity22 years in LEMassachusettsFollow Darren DerbyInstagramFacebookWinston's InstagramChapters:(0:00:00) - Building Bridges(0:15:03) - Exploring Mental Health in Uniform(0:25:10) - Balancing Being Seen and Being Darren(0:30:40) - Listening and Community Support(0:38:54) - Benefits of Comfort Dog(0:47:04) - Coffee for a CauseChapter Summaries:(0:00:00) - Building Bridges (15 Minutes)In this episode, we catch up with Officer Darren Derby, a law enforcement professional with 22 years of experience and a local celebrity in Massachusetts. Darren shares updates on his life since his last appearance on the podcast in March 2020, discussing how the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted community policing and his role in the profession. Darren's department recently implemented a Comfort Dog program, which has been successful in Massachusetts. He is now the department's full-time safety officer, focusing on community engagement, crime prevention, and addressing safety issues in the community.(0:15:03) - Exploring Mental Health in Uniform (10 Minutes)We delve into Officer Darren Derby's personal journey with mental health, including his experiences with depression and ADHD. He shares how the challenges of the job and the impact of COVID-19 contributed to his mental health struggles. However, he also emphasizes the importance of talking about mental health, especially in uniform, and encourages others to seek help and support. Despite the hardships, Officer Derby remains passionate about his work and continues to make a difference in his community'(0:25:10) - Balancing Being Seen and Being Darren (6 Minutes)We explore the origins of Officer Darren Derby's "get out of your cruiser" hashtag and his motivation to show the positive side of law enforcement officers. He discusses his desire to highlight the good deeds and genuine connections that officers make within their communities. Officer Derby also touches on balancing his personal and professional lives, navigating the attention he receives as a well-known figure, and the impact his online presence has had on other law enforcement agencies'(0:30:40) - Listening and...

I had the pleasure of welcoming back Scott Medlin, a retired police officer, Marine veteran, author, and speaker. We discussed his journey into law enforcement, his passion for writing books, and his mission to help officers improve their mental health and well-being. Scott shared his experience leaving law enforcement after 15 years to focus on his family and career as a speaker and educator. We also explored the challenges of transitioning out of the profession and the importance of officers taking care of themselves and focusing on solutions, rather than problems. We delved into Scott's journey as a successful author, discussing his four published books and his upcoming book that will encompass various aspects of policing. Scott also shared his experiences as a stay-at-home dad and the importance of balancing work and family life, particularly in high-stress professions like law enforcement. In this episode, we also discussed the power of taking action, self-reflection, and maintaining a healthy lifestyle. We emphasized the need for honesty and self-improvement, as well as staying physically active and maintaining a positive mindset. Don't miss this insightful conversation with Scott Medlin on the Off Duty Podcast!About Scott Medlin15 Yrs in LESuccessful Author & SpeakerHost of The 10 Code Mindset PodcastPrevious Episode 42Marine VeteranNorth CarolinaFollow Scott MedlinScott's WebsiteThe 10 Code PodcastFree Mental Survival GuideLinkedInYouTubeGet Scott's Books101 Health Tips For Police OfficersTruths Beyond The Police Academy101 Useful Tips For Rookie Police OfficersChapters:(0:00:00) - Leaving Law Enforcement for Family(0:07:24) - Police Officer Impact on Family(0:17:04) - The Power of Taking Action(0:28:17) - Self-Reflection and Active LifeChapter Summaries:(0:00:00) - Leaving Law Enforcement for Family (7 Minutes)In this episode of the Off Duty Podcast, I welcome back retired police officer, Marine veteran, author, and speaker Scott Medlin. We discuss his journey into law enforcement, writing books, and his mission to help officers improve their mental health and well-being. Scott shares his experience leaving law enforcement after 15 years to focus on his family and career as a speaker and educator. We also touch on the challenges of transitioning out of the profession and the importance of officers taking care of themselves and focusing on solutions, rather than problems.(0:07:24) - Police Officer Impact on Family (10 Minutes)In this portion of the Off Duty Podcast, we dive into Scott Medlin's journey as a successful author and his passion for addressing mental health in the law enforcement community. We discuss his four published books, including Mental Health Fight: The Heroes in Blue, and his upcoming book, which will encompass various aspects of policing. Scott also shares his...

Eric Reynolds, a retired police officer who spent 20 years in law enforcement, is a licensed primary sports nutritionist, licensed personal trainer, founder of Cops and Campers, and founder of KetoFiveO. Eric talks about his family's history of law enforcement and how it naturally led him to join the team. He also shares his experience finding out he had a brother who was a deputy in Orlando, Florida who he never knew about.Eric’s story is a reminder that first responders need help connecting with each other. He was able to use his passion for camping to create a space for first responders to connect and share their stories. His creation of the “Cops and Campers” retreat was a way for first responders to come together and share their experiences. It was a way for them to find comfort in knowing that they are not alone in their struggles. Cops & Campers DocumentaryAbout Eric ReynoldsLicensed Primary Sports NutritionistLicensed Personal TrainerRetired Wounded Police OfficerFounder of Cops & CampersFounder of KetoFiveO20 years in LEFrom FloridaFollow EricCops & CampersKetoFiveOTwitterInstagramFacebookSHOW SEGMENTS00:03:04 Law enforcement runs in family.00:06:06 Live life and experience it.00:10:28 Help first responders find community.00:15:08 Improve health through community support.00:22:44 Slow down, enjoy life.00:26:59 Eat healthily to stay fit.00:31:29 Living life to fullest with kids.00:37:37 Sell piece of soul for pension.00:42:39 Honesty is key to respect.00:45:10 Listen to your body.============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the “Fund the First” platform and helping first responders in need. Get your coffee here!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Episode Summary:This episode explores the realities of policing, with a conversation between a retired police officer, Anthony McNeil and a law enforcement officer from They discuss why Mark chose to pursue a career in law enforcement, the differences between policing in Canada and the United States, the importance of treating people fairly, the importance of understanding police tactics, psychology and the challenges officers face. They also discuss the importance of leading a healthy, well-rounded life to be a good police officer and the need to take time off to relax and down regulate. Mark shares his journey with PTSD, the importance of healthy coping strategies, and the need to destigmatize mental health. The discussion also touches on the importance of being present with loved ones, expressing emotions and creating healthy habits in relationships. Finally, they highlight the idea that relationships will have their ups and downs, but that by treating people with kindness and being a good listener, you can build strong relationships with those around you.About Mark BouchardHusband - FatherAuthor - Blogger17 Years in Law EnforcementFrom British Columbia, CanadaFollow MarkFacebookTwitterWebsiteChapters:(0:00:00) - Exploring the Realities of Policing(0:12:48) - Police Officer Well-Roundedness(0:18:12) - Transforming Trauma Into Post-Traumatic Growth(0:28:24) - Navigating Marriage and Parenthood(0:36:26) - Intuition and Self Talk============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the “Fund the First” platform and helping first responders in need. Get your coffee here!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Leonard Perez talks about his law enforcement career, which included 32 years in the profession and 14 years in the Navy. Leonard shares his experience growing up in poverty, the conversations he had with his family when he decided to enter law enforcement, and how he was able to stay in the job for so long. He and Anthony discuss the lack of technology, such as cell phones and computers, at the time of the Rodney King incident, and the atmosphere of the profession then and now.About Leonard Perez32 yrs at LAPD14 yrs with the Navy ReserveFrom CaliforniaFollow LeonardLinkedInTime Stamps00:04:51 Challenge yourself to keep going.00:09:26 Police ethics and training important.00:13:00 Have an outlet after retirement.00:19:11 Speak kindly to yourself.00:21:45 Live life to the fullest.00:26:37 LAPD officer commits murder.00:33:07 Plan ahead for retirement.00:33:46 Support first responders with coffee.============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the “Fund the First” platform and helping first responders in need. Get your coffee here! This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

John Benjamin Jones, a 23 year veteran of law enforcement, author, speaker and combat veteran. After leaving the military, he wanted to find something that allowed him to be of service to others, which is why he initially applied to be a firefighter and continue working in the medical field, something he did in the military.About John Benjamin JonesAuthor/SpeakerRetired Federal Law Enforcement Officer8404 (FMF) U.S. Navy Hospital CorpsmanCombat Veteran23 years in LEFrom MississippiFollow John Benjamin JonesInstagramFacebook============================Support First Responders:Blue Java Coffee Co. is a coffee brand that I started, one because I like coffee and two, because a portion of every purchase, will be donated to a different campaign on the "Fund the First" platform and helping first responders in need. Get your coffee here!This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Anthony McNeil interviews Jess Flores, a ten-year law enforcement veteran, founder of Next Shift, law enforcement career transition coach, and mindset mentor from Washington.Anthony asks Jess why she decided to pursue a career in law enforcement, which she attributes to her grandpa bringing her donuts in his police car when she was a kid; the lights, sirens, and donuts were a subconscious reminder that law enforcement was something she wanted to pursue. They discuss her journey in law enforcement, her transition to a career coach, and how she helps people make the transition from law enforcement to something else.About Jess Flores10 Years Law EnforcementFounder of Next ShiftMindset MentorFrom Kansas City, Missouri Follow Jess FloresInstagram - Next ShiftInstagram - Personal============================Cops Need to Take a Vacation:BookVIP is offering some fantastic discounts to some great locations, both domestic and international. If you're needing a break from the job and need to get away, then there's a destination waiting for you! CLICK HERE TO SEE DEALS: BookVIP *The Off Duty Podcast is an affiliate for BookVIP, so the show will make a small commission when you book your travel.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

You may or not have heard of K9 Arlo. Well I had the pleasure of speaking with Tyler McCoy, a seven year law enforcement officer and Arlo's handler and partner.Tyler explains his motivation for becoming a law enforcement officer, his experiences and the duties of a K9 handler. And he shares a story about Arlo, who was injured in the line of duty and how that shooting affected him, more than the other 2 shootings he was involved in. Arlo pulled through and has become an internet sensation with 101 million views.About Tyler McCoyK9 HandlerVideo creatorFrom Washington State7 years in law enforcementFollow Tyler & K9 ArloInstagramFacebookTik TokTwitterYouTubeTime Stamps00:01:12 Serve the public with respect.00:08:38 Social media can be beneficial.00:17:09 Take care of yourself.00:22:20 Love yourself first.00:24:10 Support each other, not division.00:29:19 Stay safe and blessed.============================Cops Need to Take a Vacation:BookVIP is offering some fantastic discounts to some great locations, both domestic and international. If you're needing a break from the job and need to get away, then there's a destination waiting for you! CLICK HERE TO SEE DEALS: BookVIP *The Off Duty Podcast is an affiliate for BookVIP, so the show will make a small commission when you book your travel.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Eric Tung, who is the founder of Blue Grit Wellness, joins the podcast to reveal his personal story behind his chosen line of work. He was a shy kid with a lack of confidence, was not close to his father, and had a disdain for those who took advantage of others. After attending college at the University of Washington, he decided to pursue law enforcement because of its potential to protect and serve. His mother was hesitant of his choice due to the cultural stigma attached to the profession.About Eric Tung16 Years LEFounder of Blue Grit & Blue Grit RadioFrom Washington StateFollow Eric TungInstagramTime Stamps00:02:59 Be a positive force in society.00:12:03 Take time to be present.00:12:40 Take time for yourself.00:23:44 Stay resilient and forward-moving.00:29:00 Life is precious and fragile.00:36:36 Risk changes with parenthood.00:37:12 Make the world better together.============================Cops Need to Take a Vacation:BookVIP is offering some fantastic discounts to some great locations, both domestic and international. If you're needing a break from the job and need to get away, then there's a destination waiting for you! CLICK HERE TO SEE DEALS: BookVIP *The Off Duty Podcast is an affiliate for BookVIP, so the show will make a small commission when you book your travel.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Anthony McNeil, makes this last minute episode, after which the Netflix documentary, "Catching the Killer Nurse". That documentary made him think of the incident involving the, "Memphis 5" officers, who killed Tyre Nichols.In this bonus episode, Anthony asks a simple question, that he hadn't heard anyone else mention when speaking about the incident in Memphis.After listening to the episode, please go to https://theoffdutypodcast.com/talktome to share your thoughts about the question, Anthony asks in the episode.About AnthonyRetired Police OfficerEntrepreneurFrom MichiganFollow AnthonyInstagramFacebookTikTok============================Cops Need to Take a Vacation:BookVIP is offering some fantastic discounts to some great locations, both domestic and international. If you're needing a break from the job and need to get away, then there's a destination waiting for you! CLICK HERE TO SEE DEALS: BookVIP *The Off Duty Podcast is an affiliate for BookVIP, so the show will make a small commission when you book your travel. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

After witnessing the death of a little girl, a devoted cop confronts the irony of his parents' strict religious beliefs when he's forced to face the lasting trauma of a career in law enforcement and the heartbreaking loss of his own son.You will learn:1. What would it be like to experience a child’s death as a parent?2. How does trauma experienced on the job affect the mental health of law enforcement officers?3. What are the struggles with finding help for those who have left law enforcement?Preston is a certified first responder chaplain and former law enforcement officer with six years of experience. He is the CEO of the nonprofit Warriors of Rasmuth and is a passionate advocate for law enforcement.About Preston KinikinCertified First Responder ChaplainCEO of Nonprofit - Warriors of Ramoth6 years in LEFrom TexasFollow Preston KinikinFacebookPhone : (361) 222-1775Time Stamps[00:00:49]Anthony McNeil is back with another fantastic guest on the Off Duty podcast. Preston Kennedy is a certified first responder chaplain who spent six years in law enforcement. His parents did not even attend his academy graduation because they are devout Jehovah's Witnesses. But he knew what he was doing was right.[00:05:52]Once you finally got into the profession, was it what you thought it would be? Man, hell no. But you can make individuals worlds better with the profession if you do it right.[00:06:37]Preston: The biggest part for me to have to overcome is I had to realize that everyone lies to you. "It's just, man, everybody lies," he says. Is there a part of the profession outside of the mental side that you had to overcome when you first started?[00:11:46]"I officially got out and let my T Cole license go in 2019. Can you share why you got out or not? "I was having a lot of issues after a call that I had " After six years, you're no longer in the profession.[00:17:59]The organization started in the back room of a church. It's now an official nonprofit, with about 32 people attending four meetings a month. Did you ever get the help that you were seeking? I did seek counseling through EMDR after I was healed.[00:24:26]The whole process is just show up. We make it as easy as possible for people to get the support that they need. We've even considered letting nursing staff come in because more nurses and medical staff commit suicide every year. It's all about being a public servant and being able to provide some type of resource.[00:27:54]Preston: If you have a heart to reach out to people who are like you, your own people, and make a change in your life and theirs, you can start this. Phone number is 361-22-1775 Wards of Raymond. You can call me anytime.[00:31:50]Preston: The most defining moment in my life has been realizing that all the bad that I've seen doesn't mean that I have to let that bad and evil in and let it change. He says the job did not become his life and he never allowed police work to become his identity.[00:35:26]When I got out, I started building custom homes as a project manager. My wife and I just had my fifth child four days ago. My biggest fulfillment comes from my family and giving them a better life than what I had. A successful parent understands that the less unless your children need you.[00:37:15]First responders would like to light a spark in people versus Bondes, especially in cops. Who's had the biggest impact on you in...