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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down the biggest topics in college football, the NFL, the NBA and much more while focusing on what Oklahomans love: OU football and the OKC Thunder. Thank you so much for listening!
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman are joined by Cole Cubelic to break down the X's and O's of some of the keys to victory in Oklahoma vs. Auburn on September 20, 2025.
0:00 Intro1:46 OU's defense must limit Jeremiah Cobb and Auburn's traditional run game 9:18 OU's defense must hold up against Auburn's gap scheme runs 14:57 OU's defense must limit Eric Singleton's big plays for the Auburn offense19:35 OU's defense must force Jackson Arnold to play from the protect, go through progressions and throw in tight windows 25:58 OU's offense must spread the Auburn defense out and run the football effectively into light boxes30:52 OU's offense must attack Auburn's light linebackers and find some success running in 12 personnel 39:07 OU must isolate Jaren Kanak on Auburn's linebackers and get him the ball in the passing game44:01 Deion Burks must win one-on-one matchups in the redzone and around the goal line against Auburn's corners
47:37 OU must take some shots down the field and produce some big plays in the passing game when Auburn brings pressure 54:52 Should OU implement this South Alabama play where both guards pull and run into each other?
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman give what they're watching for in OU vs. Auburn. Jason Campbell joins to preview the matchup between the Oklahoma Sooners and Auburn Tigers. Ikard and Lehman preview the best games of week 4 of college football: Florida vs. Miami, Texas Tech vs. Utah, Illinois vs. Indiana & Michigan vs. Nebraska. They give their "Winners & Losers of the Week": Baker Mayfield led the Bucs to a MNF victory over the Texans, Dabo Swinney crashed out in his press conference, Tom Brady sat in the Raiders coaches' booth & UCLA fired DeShaun Foster.
1:59 Lehman on OU's defense vs. Auburn's offense
20:40 Ikard on OU's offense vs. Auburn's defense
48:59 Jason Campbell interview
1:16:00 CFB Week 4 previews: Florida vs. Miami, Texas Tech vs. Utah, Illinois vs. Indiana & Michigan vs. Nebraska
1:45:37 Winners & Losers: Baker Mayfield, Dabo Swinney, Tom Brady & UCLA football
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down the X's and O's of some of the top plays from Oklahoma's 42-3 win over Temple on September 13, 2025.
0:00 Intro
1:04 Gracen Halton, David Stone and OU's defensive line wrecking Temple's attempt at running inside zone read on 3rd & 1
8:16 Michael Boganowski sacking Temple QB Evan Simon on a well-designed blitz from Brent Venables
16:30 Tory Blaylock truck sticking a safety to score on a well-executed stretch zone play from OU's offense
24:55 John Mateer scoring a 51 yard touchdown on QB GT Counter because of Temple's entire defense ran with Deion Burks and the speed sweep action
30:12 Jaren Kanak throws a 2 point conversion to Jacob Ulrich
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman recap Oklahoma's 42-3 win over Temple. Lehman recaps another dominant defensive performance from the Sooners that held Temple to 105 yards of total offense. Ikard recaps a balanced performance from John Mateer, Tory Blaylock and the Sooners offense . Ikard and Lehman recap the best games of week 3 of college football: Georgia outlasted Tennessee 44-41 in OT, Texas A&M beat Notre Dame 41-40 & LSU handled Florida 20-10 because of DJ Lagway's 5 INT's. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": Vanderbilt dominated South Carolina in Columbia 31-7, Arch Manning's struggles continued in Texas' 27-10 win over UTEP, Miami destroyed South Florida 49-12 & Clemson lost to Georgia Tech 24-21 on a game winning field goal as time expired.
1:55 Lehman breaks down OU's defense vs. Temple's offense
23:01 Ikard breaks down OU's offense vs. Temple's defense
1:07:05 CFB Week 3 recaps: Georgia vs. Tennessee, Texas A&M vs. Notre Dame & Florida vs. LSU
1:31:45 Winners & Losers: Vanderbilt, Texas, Miami & Clemson
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down the X's and O's of some of the key things they'll be watching for in Oklahoma vs. Temple on September 13, 2025.
0:00 Intro
1:08 OU's defense needs to adjust properly to Temple's shifts and motions and must tackle well in space against Temple RB Terrez Worthy
5:41 OU's defensive line has to prevent Temple's offensive line from generating the type of movement they've been able to produce in their first two games
10:32 OU must limit the impact Temple TE Peter Clarke has because he is Evan Simon's go-to guy in the passing game
14:37 With it's starting offensive line established, OU's offense must move Temple's defensive off the ball on their core runs
18:58 Deion Burks, Isaiah Sategna and other OU wide receivers need to take some short throws from John Mateer and make them into big plays by breaking tackles
21:34 Michael Fasusi must shut down Temple DE Cam'Ron Stewart's go-to inside move
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman give what they're watching for in OU vs. Temple. The preview Oklahoma vs. Temple with Temple head coach K.C. Keller. Ikard and Lehman preview the best games of week 3 of college football: Georgia vs. Tennessee, Texas A&M vs. Notre Dame, USF vs. Miami & Florida vs. LSU. They give their "Winners & Losers of the Week": Aaron Rodgers looked good in the Pittsburgh Steelers win over the New York Jets, the AP Poll is under fire, the Big 12 suspended officials for making a mistake & the SEC fined Mississippi State $500,000 for storming the field after their win over Arizona State.
2:34 Lehman on OU's defense vs. Temple's offense
20:19 Ikard on OU's offense vs. Temple's defense
47:15 Temple head coach K.C. Keeler interview
1:18:38 CFB Week 3 previews: Georgia vs. Tennessee, Texas A&M vs. Notre Dame, USF vs. Miami & Florida vs. LSU
1:45:39 Winners & Losers: Aaron Rodgers, AP Poll, Big 12 officals & SEC fines Mississippi State
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down some of the top plays from Oklahoma's 24-13 win over Michigan on September 6, 2025.
0:00 Intro
0:51 OU's defense destroying Michigan's offensive line on a 0 blitz against a very conservative call on 3rd & 6 from the Wolverines
6:50 OU's defensive blowing up the Wolverines offensive line and Bryce Underwood on QB GT Counter Read
12:15 Breaking down what went wrong for Oklahoma's defense on Justice Haynes' 75-yard touchdown run
18:51 John Mateer makes an unblocked blitzer miss and makes a phenomenal throw on the move to Isaiah Sategna on the scramble drill
23:56 John Mateer scores on a really nicely designed QB GH Counter with nice blocks from Jaren Kanak and Tory Blaylock.
34:29 John Mateer floats the ball to a wide open Jovantae Barnes on a beautifully designed 0 blitz beater from Sooners OC Ben Arbuckle
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman recap Oklahoma's 24-13 win over Michigan. Lehman recaps a dominant defensive performance from the Sooners that held Bryce Underwood and the Michigan offense to 288 total yards. Ikard recaps a gutsy performance from John Mateer behind a new look OU offensive line. Ikard and Lehman recap the best games of week 2 of college football: Iowa State outlasts Iowa 16-13, Ole Miss survives Kentucky 30-23 & Missouri beats Kansas 42-31. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": Mississippi State beat Arizona State 24-20 on a late touchdown, Oklahoma State was dismantled by Oregon 69-3, USF shocked Florida at The Swamp 18-16 & the ACC had a rough weekend: SMU blew a 14 point 4th quarter lead to lose to Baylor in OT 48-45, Duke got destroyed by Illinois 45-19, Vanderbilt smacked Virginia Tech 44-20, Clemson struggled with Troy & Fran Brown embarrassed himself and his Syracuse team by making them run sprints after beating UConn.
2:09 Lehman talks about the incredible atmosphere in Norman and breaks down OU's defense vs. Michigan's offense
22:08 Ikard breaks down OU's offense vs. Michigan's defense
1:20:10 CFB Week 2: Iowa vs. Iowa State, Ole Miss vs. Kentucky & Kansas vs. Missouri recaps
1:34:58 Winners & Losers: Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, South Florida & the ACC
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman are joined by Taylor Lewan to break down the X's and O's of the keys to victory in Oklahoma vs. Michigan on September 6, 2025. They discuss the importance of winning the battle at the of scrimmage for the Sooners and Wolverines, the QB battle between John Mateer and Bryce Underwood and the importance of getting a win for OU football and Michigan football!
0:00 Intro
2:41 Sooners defensive line must be able to win the battle against the Wolverine's defensive line and limit Justice Haynes in the running game
7:29 Oklahoma has to win the short yardage and goal line situations against Michigan (WHAT A BLOCK BY BRYCE UNDERWOOD!)
13:09 OU must limit explosive plays from Bryce Underwood in the passing game
18:40 OU's offensive line must get some movement against Michigan's defensive line so the the Sooners can run the ball efficiently and stay balanced on offense
25:57 OU's OL must anchor on Michigan's DL's power rushes to give John Mateer time in the pocket to deliver the ball to OU's wide receivers in the holes in Michigan's zone coverage
33:07 New Mexico executed one of the best trick plays for a touchdown that we've ever seen against Michigan in week 1
37:46 New Mexico offensive lineman does something all three of us have never seen on a football field!
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman preview OU football vs. Michigan football. Jake Butt joins to break down the matchup between the Oklahoma Sooners & Michigan Wolverines. Ikard and Lehman preview the best games of week 2 of college football: Iowa vs. Iowa State, Ole Miss vs. Kentucky & Kansas vs. Missouri. They give their "Winners & Losers of the Week": DUDE Wipes is sponsoring the Philadelphia Eagles' Tush Push, Bill Belichick and UNC got destroyed by TCU, Brian Kelly dunked on Dabo Swinney's grading scale of the LSU vs. Clemson game & Oregon's Danning Lanning wasn't a fan of Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy's comments about his program.
1:58 Lehman on OU football's defense vs. Michigan football's offense
27:12 Ikard on the Oklahoma Sooners offense vs. Michigan Wolverines defese
1:01:20 Jake Butt previews Oklahoma vs. Michigan
1:24:40 Iowa vs. Iowa State, Ole Miss vs. Kentucky & Kansas vs. Missouri previews
1:49:01 Winners & Losers: DUDE Wipes sponsors Tush Push, Bill Belichick, Brian Kelly & Mike Gundy
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down some of their favorite plays from Oklahoma's 35-3 win over Illinois State on August 31, 2025.
0:00 Intro
0:58 Deion Burks speed sweep with QB GT Counter option going the other way
8:52 John Mateer delivers a beautiful throw in zone coverage to Keontez Lewis on a deep dig route
15:32 Oklahoma's defense executes a gap sound nickel blitz for a tackle for loss
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman recap Oklahoma's 35-3 win over Illinois State. Lehman recaps a solid defensive performance from the Sooners and Ikard recaps a record setting debut for John Mateer and the issues the Sooner had running the football. Ikard and Lehman recap the best games of week 1 of college football: Ohio State Beats Texas 14-7, LSU beats Clemson 17-10 & Auburn handles Baylor 38-24. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": Utah destroyed UCLA 43-10, Florida State shocked Alabama 31-17, Tennessee got a solid win over Syracuse 45-26 & the Dallas Cowboys traded Micah Parsons to the Green Bay Packers.
2:09 Lehman breaks down OU's defense vs. Illinois State's offense
22:08 Ikard breaks down OU's offense vs. Illinois State's defense
1:10:12 Texas vs. Ohio State recap
1:20:54 LSU vs. Clemson recap
1:27:32 Auburn vs. Baylor recap
1:34:58 Winners & Losers: Utah, Alabama, Tennessee & Dallas Cowboys
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down some of the things they are watching for in Oklahoma vs. Illinois State on August 31, 2025.
0:00 Intro
1:25 Illinois State QB Tommy Rittenhouse can do some damage as a runner
7:26 Illinois State WR Daniel Sabkowicz has good size at 6'2" 205 and will challenge OU's young corners
12:34 OU's offense will be challenged by Illinois State's pressure packages on 2nd/3rd and long
20:27 OU's offense needs to be able to get into 12 personnel with Jaren Kanak and Will Huggins and run the ball efficiently against Illinois State's 3-4 defense
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman discuss what they'll be watching for in Oklahoma vs. Illinois State. Illinois State head coach Brock Spack joins to preview the matchup between the Sooners and Redbird. Ikard and Lehman preview the best games of week 1 of college football: Texas vs. Ohio State, LSU vs. Clemson & Auburn vs. Baylor. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Week": New Mexico's depth chart vs. Michigan, Ohio State and/or FOX banning Barstool Sports' Dave Portnoy from doing Big Noon Kickoff, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift got engaged & Oklahoma State will start Hauss Hejny at quarterback.
3:39 What to watch for: OU's defense vs. Illinois State's offense
17:17 What to watch for: OU's offense vs. Illinois State's defense
37:53 Illinois State head coach Brock Spack interview
1:12:34 Texas vs. Ohio State preview
1:22:11 LSU vs. Clemson preview
1:30:15 Auburn vs. Baylor preview
1:41:18 Winners & Losers: New Mexico depth chart, Dave Portnoy ban, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift & Hauss Hejny.
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman discuss give their bold predictions for Oklahoma football in 2025. Lehman predicts the Sooners will have two 1,000 yard wide receivers, R Mason Thomas will break the OU sack record, John Mateer will have over 44 total touchdowns & Kendal Daniels will be named SEC Defensive Player of the Week twice. Ikard predicts Jayden Jackson will make 1st Team All-SEC, Jaren Kanak will have over 324 yards receiving & Tate Sandell will make the longest field goal in the SEC. They discuss the SEC announcing that it will go to 9 conference games starting in the 2026 college football season. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": Iowa State beat Kansas State 24-21 in Farm O'Geddon in Dublin, Avery Johnson, Kansas opened their renovated stadium with a 31-7 win over Fresno State behind a strong performance from Jalon Daniels & Matt Rhule started his "House Rhules" podcast.
3:45 Lehman's bold predictions
25:44 Ikard's bold predictions
46:15 SEC moving to 9 conference games in 2026
1:05:59 Winners & Losers: Iowa State beats Kansas State in Farm O'Geddon, Kansas Jayhawks & Matt Rhule
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman discuss the freshmen that they expect to play for Oklahoma football during the 2025. They discuss Michael Fasusi, Tory Blaylock, Elijah Thomas, Ryan Fodje and Manny Choice for the Sooners offense and Danny Okoye, Courtland Guillory, Jeremiah Newcombe, Trent Wilson and Wyatt Gilmore for the Sooners defense. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Week": Iowa State vs. Kansas State in Farm O'Geddon in Dublin, Daniel Jones was named the Indianapolis Colts starter over Anthony Richardson, DJ Lagway is finally practicing for Florida, Julian Sayin was named Ohio State's starting QB, CJ Carr was named Notre Dame's starting QB, Bear Bachmeier was named BYU's starting QB and Auburn is now claiming that they've won 9 national championships in football.
3:31 OU freshmen that will play for Sooners offense
26:01 OU freshmen that will play for Sooners defense
49:54 Winners & Losers: Farm O'Geddon, Daniel Jones, DJ Lagway, Julian Sayin, CJ Carr, Bear Bachmeier & Auburn
Official Site: https://okbreakdown.com/episodes/freshmen-thatll-play-for-ou-in-2025-farm-ogeddon-dj-lagway-practices-auburn-claims-9-titles
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman revisit the biggest questions they had for Oklahoma football entering training camp and discuss which of those questions have been answered. They discuss OU's corners, who has emerged at wide receiver, Kendal Daniels' role, Michael Fasusi's role, the interior defensive line & Jaren Kanak's role. Ikard and Lehman give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": the NCAA went easy on Michigan for the sign stealing scandal, there are some interesting rule changes for the 2025 college football season, the preseason AP Top 25 is always fun to discuss & the Big Ten has suggested a 24 or 28 team College Football Playoff.
3:08 OU's corners, wide receivers & Kendal Daniels' role
23:53 Michael Fasusi, OU's interior DL & Jaren Kanak's role
48:55 Winners & Losers: NCAA punishes Michigan, 2025 CFB rule changes, AP Top 25 & Big Ten wants 24 or 28 team CFP
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman break down what they saw from Oklahoma’s offense and defense at the training camp practice they attended together. While the Sooners defense appears to be the strength of the team, Ikard and Lehman liked the physicality and competition they saw throughout practice and they give their thoughts on each position on both sides of the ball. They also discuss some of the biggest SEC football headlines: LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier is dealing with patellar tendonitis, Texas is ranked preseason #1 but lost OT Andre Cojoe for the season & Jon Gruden wants to coach in the SEC.
3:21 Training camp thoughts about OU’s defense
29:46 Training camp thoughts about OU’s offense
1:00:59 Garrett Nussmeier did NOT tear his ACL
1:06:20 Texas is preseason #1 but lost OT Andre Cojoe for the season
1:17:03 Jon Gruden wants to coach in the SEC
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman give the latest updates from Oklahoma Sooners training camp. Lehman breaks down what has stood out to him about the Sooners offense and defense in the practices that he has attended. They give their "Winners & Losers of the Weekend": Shedeur Sanders delivered a solid performance in his first NFL preseason game, NASCAR driver Connor Zilisch took a nasty fall in victory lane, Tom Brady's statue is fantastic and his speech at the ceremony was excellent & CeeDee Lamb got destroyed by an NFL ref on the sidelines of the Dallas Cowboys preseason game.
5:24 Teddy's thoughts on OU's defense in training camp
30:42 Teddy's thoughts on OU's offense in training camp
53:46 Winners & Losers: Shedeur Sanders, Connor Zilisch, Tom Brady & CeeDee Lamb
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Gabe Ikard and Teddy Lehman are joined by college football content megastar Josh Pate. Pate discusses Oklahoma football heading into the 2025 season including his thoughts on John Mateer, expectations for the Sooners defense and what he views as a successful season for OU this season. Pate also gives his thoughts on some of OU's SEC opponents, his SEC tiers, teams his high on going into the season and talks about the future of his show.
3:00 Pate gives his thoughts on OU football heading into 2025
18:36 Pate discusses some of OU's SEC opponents
25:30 Pate gives his SEC tiers
34:00 Pate on why he's higher on Georgia Tech than most
38:46 Pate on Penn State
43:46 Pate on the future of his show
Official Site: https://okbreakdown.com/episodes/josh-pate-on-why-he-thinks-ou-is-a-top-10-caliber-team-sec-tiers-cfb-title-favorites-more
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rocky calmus, torrance Marshall
my question is this... why do we reward an 18 year old child for something he/ she hasn't done yet? In the actual world, you are rewarded for things you've done. You both were great players. How do you feel when a freshman comes in and makes a million and you're making nothing? I may and am probably wrong but we're new to this and I haven't heard of seniors making this money?