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Optispan is a vision for what health should be.
The typical person gives up 10-20 years of quality life in exchange for disability, frailty, and early death. We call this "the lost decade". Time that should be spent with loved ones doing the activities you enjoy are instead spent suffering from multiple diseases and taking a cabinet full of medications that probably do as much harm as good.
We believe that the current practice of medicine is disease care, not health care. We believe that everyone can get closer to their own optimal healthspan.
The typical person gives up 10-20 years of quality life in exchange for disability, frailty, and early death. We call this "the lost decade". Time that should be spent with loved ones doing the activities you enjoy are instead spent suffering from multiple diseases and taking a cabinet full of medications that probably do as much harm as good.
We believe that the current practice of medicine is disease care, not health care. We believe that everyone can get closer to their own optimal healthspan.
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Related Episode(s):Biological Age & what it REALLY means | 9 - Longevity Science #3: https://youtu.be/DcxgEwQKx8Q?si=y1iF4RviJc0n__gW
In this deep dive, Matt examines the growing trend of direct-to-consumer biological (epigenetic) age testing kits, exploring their purpose, popularity, and limitations. He outlines his experimental design to evaluate the accuracy and precision of these tests, addressing important questions about what they truly measure and how reliable they are. Matt unpacks the difference between biological and chronological age, discusses the co-marketing strategies employed by these companies, and reflects on his own results to provide a critical perspective on the value of these kits.
0:00 Introduction
2:17 Experimental Design
3:03 Key Questions
5:15 Marketing Strategies of Bio-Age Companies
6:15 Biological Age vs. Chronological Age
6:49 Measuring Biological Age
8:32 Limitations of Epigenetic Clocks
13:23 Accuracy and Precision
15:49 Data Analysis
19:22 Matt’s Biological Age Results
22:53 Key Takeaways
24:50 Sanity Checks
31:58 Conclusions
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
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https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
In this episode, Matt sits down with Thomas Seager, an associate professor at Arizona State University (ASU), to explore the challenges and future directions of healthcare. Drawing from his background in environmental engineering and public health, Thomas discusses the pressing health issues affecting longevity in Americans and a potential shift from a reactive healthcare model to one that emphasizes proactive health management. Together, Matt and Thomas examine the complexities of early disease detection, the promise and limitations of AI in analyzing biomarkers, and the difficulties of separating reliable information from misinformation in today’s digital landscape. Thomas shares his personal experiences with biomarkers and resilience practices, such as cold exposure therapy, while he and Matt discuss the biases in medical research and differing approaches to health.
Thomas is an Associate Professor at ASU in the School of Sustainable Engineering and the Built Environment. His research focuses on sustainable engineering and resilience, addressing topics such as infrastructure resilience, sustainable energy systems, and environmental ethics. He is also the co-founder of Morozko Forge, a company that promotes cold immersion therapy as a means of supporting metabolic resilience.
0:00 Introduction
2:34 Environmental engineering and public health
6:29 Major health crises affecting longevity
10:30 Public’s evolving views on modern healthcare
11:45 “Repair Shop” mentality in medicine
12:59 Two key questions: Advancing proactive medicine and filtering out misinformation
16:00 Understanding biomarkers
18:35 Weighing the risks and rewards of early detection
25:10 Japan’s 1991 Cold Stimulation Study
31:10 Bias and skepticism in medical research—different perspectives
39:12 The positivist approach to hypothesis-driven work
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
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Grief: one of the most profound emotions humanity shares; a universal experience that transcends time, culture, and place; a phenomenon as ancient as human existence. Grief is as intrinsic to the human experience as joy or hope, and no one escapes it—to grieve is to be human.
In this episode, Matt and Nick discuss their recent personal experiences with grief and loss. Matt lost his German Shepherd Dobby to degenerative myelopathy, while Nick's father succumbed to health issues precipitated by heavy alcohol use. Together they explore how grief affects mental and physical health, including how it affects the four Pillars of Healthspan—Eat, Sleep, Move, and Connect—as well as the hallmarks of aging. They also discuss the tricky emotions that can accompany grief, the different ways people react to change, and the unanticipated positives of negative experiences.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/optispanpodcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Related episode:
People are GETTING THIS WRONG about Supplements & My Supplement List: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UXk_ynCNUs
In this episode, Matt sits down with naturopathic doctor and primary care provider Kim Celmer to discuss the distinct approach naturopathic doctors (NDs) bring to patient care, addressing common misconceptions about complementary and alternative treatment modalities and explaining how NDs treat prevalent issues like digestive problems, food sensitivities, and nutrient deficiencies. They dive into the distinctions between food allergies and sensitivities and how NDs manage these through a holistic lens. Celmer provides practical advice on managing heartburn and other digestive concerns, along with insights on nutritional insufficiencies and the impact of common medications on gut health. This episode is a practical guide for anyone interested in a holistic approach to health.
Kim Celmer, ND, is a naturopathic doctor specializing in primary care. After earning her doctorate from Bastyr University, she completed a residency in naturopathic medicine at the Institute of Complementary Medicine in Seattle, focusing on integrative approaches to hormone health, digestive wellness, and chronic disease management.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/optispanpodcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Related episode:
Defining "Healthspan" & its role in LIVING LONGER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI6CNFeBl88
Author and physician Peter Attia popularized the concept of "Medicine 3.0", the third in a series of distinct phases—Medicine 1.0 and Medicine 2.0 included—that describe the evolution of medicine as we know it.
In this episode, Matt takes us through these phases and proposes a "Medicine 4.0" as the best next step beyond Peter's Medicine 3.0. He discusses the reactive disease care approach of Medicine 2.0, noting that while it has done a stellar of job of increasing life expectancy through developments such as widespread antibiotic use, sanitation improvements, and childhood mortality reductions, it has not been quite as useful at improving healthspan. People may stay alive for longer than they used to, but many of them spend this extra time alive suffering from at least one significant chronic disease or disability that significantly impedes their vitality and quality of life. Matt suggests several approaches we should take to kick off Medicine 4.0 and also presents an even longer-range version of the future: Medicine 5.0.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/optispanpodcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
How much longer might humans live?
This question has fascinated scientists, philosophers, and dreamers for centuries. The average human lifespan has already increased dramatically over the past hundred years thanks to advances in medicine, public health, and technology, and the prospect of radically extending human life remains one of humanity’s most compelling frontiers.
A recent paper published in the scientific journal Nature Aging argues that radical life extension is unlikely to happen in the 21st century. The paper has sparked fascinating conversation in the longevity industry around topics such as realistic deliverables for the field, the predictive value of past technological trajectories, the reasons behind lifespan decreases in the western world, incremental versus bold research goals, and where we should go from here. Matt and Nick discuss the paper and provide their own take on the prospect of radical life extension and what we can realistically expect to see in the coming decades.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/optispanpodcast/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Here's another Ask Matt Anything episode, with questions from Nick for Matt about topics ranging from the nitty-gritty of bloodwork and workout schedules to bigger-picture questions about upper limits to human lifespan, issues with the US healthcare system, and incentives for food companies to prioritize healthy options.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Related episodes:
Brain Disorder Expert: Tackling Alzheimer's & Other Brain Disorders with LITHIUM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebj-3MuAKRs
Check out Woodinville Psychiatric: https://www.woodinvillepsychiatric.com/
Matt and psychiatrist Jon Berner discussed the potential of rapamycin and ketamine for treating severe depression and chronic pain, focusing on their impact on microglia and brain inflammation. They touch on how microglia, a type of immune cell found in the central nervous system that help protect the brain against infections, clear debris, and respond to injuries, shifts from an inflammatory to a reparative state in response to rapamycin and ketamine treatment. They also dive into clinical case studies of ketamine and rapamycin combinations and the complicated topic of how regulatory reform and AI collaboration might advance medical innovation.
Jon has been in solo psychiatric practice at Woodinville Psychiatric in Washington since 1997. He spent several years working at the Monroe Correctional Complex, a Washington State Department of Corrections prison. His specialties include brain disorders, particularly bipolar and psychotic illnesses, complex pain, addiction, and "undiagnosed" neuropsychiatric syndromes, and other general psychiatric disorders such as anxiety and depression. Jon has published multiple scientific papers about various topics in the realm of mood disorders and treatments for them. He holds an M.D and a PhD in neuroscience from the University of California, Los Angeles and a B.A. in psychology from Harvard University.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out the New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/24/well/live/rapamycin-aging-longevity-benefits-risks.html
Related episodes:
“Zombie” Senescent cells may play HUGE role in LIVING LONGER, Here's How: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H6cDIl6pgo
NEW PEARL Trial Results: Your Questions Answered on Aging with Rapamycin for Longevity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUAXqSSnXzo
Matt and Nick discuss a recent New York Times article about rapamycin and its potential as a life-extending and/or anti-aging drug (the article quotes Matt). Matt answers various questions from Nick related to the article about topics including whether one should "feel something" when taking rapamycin, precautions to take when using the drug off-label, and what we know about rapamycin and fertility, cholesterol levels, and neurodegenerative disease. Matt also discusses likely reasons behind the mixed results observed thus far in human clinical trials of rapamycin, and emphasizes the need for well-powered, randomized clinical trials to better profile and understand the true efficacy of rapamycin in humans.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out the study on caffeine and cortisol secretion: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2257922/?__hstc=3584879.1bb630f9cde2cb5f07430159d50a3c91.1522713601929.1522713601930.1522713601931.1&__hssc=3584879.1.1522713601932&__hsfp=1773666937
Check out James Hoffman's views on delaying caffeine intake in the morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCJr49GU9yY
Coffee: one of the world's most popular beverages, a pick-me-up, a source of comfort and warmth, a symbol of energy and focus, a tool for social interaction. Global consumption adds up to billions of cups per day, and an estimated 75 percent of the United States population drinks the beverage. Its appeal crosses cultures, ages, and lifestyles and has made coffee a central part of many people’s daily routines.
In this episode, Matt and Nick dissect the debate circulating among internet influencers around whether there is an optimal time to consume caffeine in the morning. They discuss individual sensitivity to caffeine, potential negative feedback loops of excessive caffeine consumption, and their own coffee consumption protocols. They also review a 2005 study on how caffeine affects cortisol levels.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out the paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867424009140?casa_token=6qa0LtsLh8QAAAAA:Iid3EX1qav1JTfkO5Skj787iUo6bJjD4dAgjvK_2ix5JirSEakRCc92m_W0G5CgNdLZR-RT4B4Q
In September 2024, the scientific journal Cell published a paper suggesting that metformin slows the pace of biological aging in male primates. Metformin is an FDA-approved prescription medication commonly used to treat type 2 diabetes by improving insulin sensitivity and decreasing the amount of glucose produced by the liver. After examining the influence of metformin supplementation on a suite of physiological, imaging, histological, transcriptomic, and RNA sequencing parameters, the paper's authors concluded that metformin exerts geroprotective effects on various tissues.
Matt and Nick spend this episode dissecting the paper, highlighting potential improvements to study design and presentation, and discussing the use of metformin as a longevity drug.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
We recently came across a study published in the European Journal of Nutrition that examined the relationship between plant and animal protein intake and measures of biological aging. The study, which uses data from the UK Biobank, a long-term database of biological data from half a million participants in the United Kingdom, found that a higher plant protein intake correlates inversely with biological aging. Matt takes us through the study and gives us his take on the results and potential explanations for them as well as on the validity of the biological age measures used, the complexities of nutrition research, and core principles of healthy eating.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
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Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
More about the Dog Aging Project: https://dogagingproject.org/
The Dog Aging Institute: https://dogaginginstitute.org
Enroll your dog in the Dog Aging Project: https://redcap.dogagingproject.org/surveys/?s=DYYDHK8HAP
We get lots of feedback and questions about the Dog Aging Project (DAP) from viewers, so we wanted to provide an update about how the project is going as well as some context. In this episode, Matt dives into the project's winding 10-year history, which includes navigating the vagaries of government funding, handling skepticism from fellow academics, and managing clinical trial enrollment in the midst of a global pandemic. He provides a candid peek into the logistical coordination, interdisciplinary collaboration, and leadership required to run a large-scale, ambitious scientific project such as the DAP, and the necessity of articulating clear and compelling goals that can rally support from both the scientific community and funding bodies.
The DAP is a study of canine health and longevity aimed at understanding how dogs—and, eventually, humans—age. The project has two broad goals: to help us understand the biology of aging, and to enable us to do something about it. A third goal that often goes unmentioned, but is (to some) no less important, is to give us more time with furry friends who often become part of the family. The DAP has grown to become the world's largest study of aging.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
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Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Related episodes:
Current Healthcare ISN'T CUTTING IT: How Optispan is REVOLUTIONIZING it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc2kiKsm-Z0
Aging Expert Explains How Healthcare got it ALL WRONG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAEx-5CdX94
Your health doesn't need to be complicated. With so much conflicting information out there, it's easy to feel overwhelmed and unsure of what truly works. At the Optispan Podcast, we focus on cutting through the noise and providing you with clear, evidence-backed solutions that will make a noticeable difference in your life, rather than creating incremental change or no change at all.
In this episode, Matt introduces the Optispan "Pillars of Healthspan" and explains how these pillars intersect and impact aging and age-related disease prevention. He talks about the importance of focusing on your weakest pillar and gives some real-world examples of simple strategies to improve habits around each pillar. Matt encourages listeners to self-assess, use diagnostics, and seek assistance to enhance their healthspan trajectory where appropriate.
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out the PEARL trial webinar with Dr. Z of AgelessRx, Oliver Medvedik of Genspace, and Matt Kaeberlein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEXBFlQOTf4&t=1217s
Check out the preprint discussing PEARL trial results after one year: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.08.21.24312372v1
Check out the PEARL trial listing: https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT04488601
The AgelessRx-sponsored Participatory Evaluation of Aging with Rapamycin for Longevity (PEARL) trial was a 48-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial investigating the safety and potential efficacy of different intermittent rapamycin doses for mitigating signs of aging. AgelessRx recently published results after one year of data collection, and hosted a webinar with several experts to review the results and answer follow-up questions.
In this episode, Matt tackles questions that the webinar didn't get to about topics including the challenges of determining optimal dosing, the costs of running well-powered longevity trials, the differences between compounded and generic rapamycin, and the potential value of using functional outcome measures as trial endpoints rather than directly measuring aging reversal.
If you have submitted a question that Matt didn't get to, don't worry—we'll be doing more of these. Comment below or email us at optispanpodcast@gmail.com with your questions. We read everything.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out the paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07701-9.pdf
Related episodes:
The Benefits of Protein Restriction, How Protein Affects Hormones & FGF21: https://youtu.be/Nf1GhkAFiWY
A recent paper demonstrating that injecting older mice with an anti-IL-11 drug extended their median lifespan made a splash in the geroscience community this summer. IL-11 is a proinflammatory cytokine that plays a role in regulating various biological processes, including hematopoiesis (the production of blood cells), bone health and remodeling, and tissue repair. Meanwhile, cytokines act as messengers between cells, helping to regulate immune responses, inflammation, and the production of blood cells. In excess or when dysregulated, cytokines can contribute to chronic inflammation and autoimmune diseases.
In this episode, Matt discusses the role IL-11 plays in the body, the ERK, AMPK, and mTOR pathways, genetic and pharmacological models of IL-11 reduction, and more. He goes over the paper's claims and provides his take on whether this finding is a game-changer in the longevity field as well as on what further questions he'd like to see answered in follow-up studies.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@optispan
Check out paper #1 on IL-11 signaling: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07701-9.pdf
Check out paper #2 on combination trametinib/rapamycin treatment: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2024/07/25/2024.07.25.605097.full.pdf
Related episodes:
An introduction to the study of RAPAMYCIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czx_-DqnnrQ&t=1s
In this episode, Matt discusses two recent mouse lifespan studies: one focused on inhibiting IL-11 signaling, and one focused on combined trametinib and rapamycin treatment. IL-11, or Interleukin-11, is a protein that plays an important role in modulating inflammation and healing, while trametinib is an FDA-approved drug that targets certain cancers, particularly melanoma. You can find extensive discussion of rapamycin in our R-Files series linked above. Matt explains the "900-day rule" for evaluating mouse lifespan studies such as these two, and provides his take on whether these results are game-changers for the geroscience field as well as whether we should consider these interventions for human use at this time.
Producers: Tara Mei, Nicholas Arapis
Video Editor: Jacob Keliikoa
DISCLAIMER: The information provided on the Optispan podcast is intended solely for general educational purposes and is not meant to be, nor should it be construed as, personalized medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is established by your use of this channel. The information and materials presented are for informational purposes only and are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. We strongly advise that you consult with a licensed healthcare professional for all matters concerning your health, especially before undertaking any changes based on content provided by this channel. The hosts and guests on this channel are not liable for any direct, indirect, or other damages or adverse effects that may arise from the application of the information discussed. Medical knowledge is constantly evolving; therefore, the information provided should be verified against current medical standards and practices.
More places to find us:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispanpodcast
Twitter: https://twitter.com/optispan
Twitter: https://twitter.com/mkaeberlein
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/optispan
https://www.optispan.life/
Hi, I'm Matt Kaeberlein. I spent the first few decades of my career doing scientific research into the biology of aging, trying to understand the finer details of how humans age in order to facilitate translational interventions that promote healthspan and improve quality of life. Now I want to take some of that knowledge out of the lab and into the hands of people who can really use it.
On this podcast I talk about all things aging and healthspan, from supplements and nutrition to the latest discoveries in longevity research. My goal is to lift the veil on the geroscience and longevity world and help you apply what we know to your own personal health trajectory. I care about quality science and will always be honest about what I don't know. I hope you'll find these episodes helpful!
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