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Garrett Layell, Pastor Ben Pearce and Kenny Lewis discuss the spiritual battles in their day to day lives, and staying connected to Jesus outside of church life.
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Worship with Your Life

Worship with Your Life

2025-11-0758:23

Worshiping Jesus isn't an hour a week church service, a 15-minute daily devotion, or a nightly prayer. It is a way of life. For a Christian, it is the way of life.  It is welcoming Jesus along for the minute by minute ride. The ride with the crazy drivers, difficult people, and less than ideal circumstances. He wants to be a part of it all. Church and quiet time are the easy times to follow Christ. It's the rest of life we struggle with. And that's where He wants to be.  When we invite Christ into unrestricted 24/7 access to our hearts, our entire lives become about glorifying Him, and He is able to do so much with the little things along the way.  Chapters (00:00:02) - Wonders of the World(00:01:24) - Jesus' patience with the she-devil(00:06:10) - Pondering the Humility of Christ(00:10:11) - Humility in the Word(00:14:50) - Jesus Was Tempted 3 Times(00:18:27) - Did They Know The Messiah Was the Messiah?(00:23:50) - Jesus and the Old Covenant(00:24:26) - Christianity and Nicodemus(00:26:42) - John 3: The Contrast Between John 2 and 3(00:31:33) - Why Was Christ So Humiliated?(00:35:46) - say yes to everything(00:40:06) - Wonders of the World(00:44:38) - Thanksgiving and Being thankful(00:47:19) - Rusty Earnhardt In The NASCAR Hall of Fame(00:49:33) - Tallahassee Motor Speedway(00:51:59) - Carl Lewis on Jimmy Kimmel's Hall of Fame Moment(00:54:47) - Things That God Can't Do For You(00:56:58) - Homework For Kids
Check Your Motives

Check Your Motives

2025-10-3153:09

Why are we doing what we are doing? Better yet, Who is directing us? It's so easy to take control and do what we want or do what we know we should for the wrong reasons. But if we are being led by God, our hearts align with our motives, to serve Him in gratitude, and direct others to Jesus! Chapters (00:00:02) - It Takes Courage to Love Self(00:01:05) - My Son's First Step To 100(00:04:21) - Kenny on His Backup Plan(00:05:41) - Pray for Your Enemies(00:10:14) - Praying in the Spirit(00:15:07) - Blessings Follow Obedience(00:17:04) - James 5: The Prayer of a righteous Man(00:21:32) - What, What Was It That I Would Love to Be?(00:21:46) - Reveal: Self-Control(00:26:19) - How to Deal with a Hardheaded Child(00:29:05) - Who Comes First? The Test of Discipleship(00:31:53) - Mental preparation for God(00:33:22) - How to Do a Three-Part Sermon(00:36:33) - The Cross and God's Love(00:39:59) - An atheist on God and His Love(00:42:38) - Jesus on Self-Love(00:45:28) - Check Your Motions(00:47:49) - Closing with the Book of Jude(00:49:17) - Responsibilities of Others and God
Blessings Follow Obedience

Blessings Follow Obedience

2025-10-2101:09:47

If we aren't careful, our inner legalist can twist our motivation to obey God. We either do it so appear righteous to others, make ourselves feel better about ourselves, or even to earn God's favor so He will give us what we desire.  Not only are those the wrong reasons to obey God, they are sinful! Self-righteousness, pride, & greed square off directly in the face of what God desires in our hearts. So are we not to obey? As Paul would say, God forbid!  We shouldn't see blessings and obedience as a divine currency exchanged between us and God. If it were, we'd be bankrupt!  A unique characteristic of love is that it causes you to find joy in the joy of the person you love. When I do something for my kids that makes them happy, I don't do it to make myself feel like a good dad. I do it because seeing them happy brings me joy! But bringing myself joy isn't the motivation for doing it, but it goes hand in hand with bringing them joy.  When we pursue the things that make God happy out of our love for Him, blessings follow, because our obedience to Him is the blessings itself!   
God can do anything He wants. Literally anything. We can't even comprehend His power, let alone match it. But when it comes to the things most important to us, for some reason we try to limit His power. Yes, He can create the universe, raise the dead, multiply fish and bread, but what is that to us?! We think this one thing in our life is the one thing God can't handle. We trust ourselves to step up and handle a problem that we think is too big for Almighty God. It really is comically stupid. Chapters (00:00:02) - God's Love for Us(00:00:55) - Jack's Jams and Jellies(00:03:38) - Keep Your Testimony(00:06:43) - Jesus' Mercy for Mary(00:09:41) - Sub-Points of the Bible(00:14:02) - Jesus on the Crucifixion(00:17:35) - Wonders of the World(00:21:10) - How Much Wine Would Have Been Needed for the Disciples?(00:24:04) - Wonders of the World(00:26:25) - God's Will for You(00:29:41) - Burden of Eternal Trust(00:33:44) - Blessed People: How Dependent Are They on God?(00:38:00) - How to Be Less Prideful(00:40:27) - How to Fight PRIDE(00:43:12) - "My Mother in Law Is a Blackey Blank"(00:43:52) - It's Just Too Important to Let God Handle(00:46:44) - Real Prayers For The Lord(00:49:33) - Gabe's Love Letter To His Parents(00:52:46) - Gabe's Attempt to Earn 17 Million GTA Points(00:55:38) - Mariah Carey on Smartphones(00:59:40) - Amelia in the Amber Alert(01:01:51) - Moses and Aaron in the Desert(01:05:13) - Jesus at the End of His Own Life(01:06:20) - Why Did God Tell Moses To assemble the congregation and speak to the(01:07:36) - PODCAST: Chick Fil-A
Christ is the Standard

Christ is the Standard

2025-10-0701:05:29

We are naturally bent towards comparing ourselves to others. How skilled are we at certain tasks? How kind are we towards others? How much have we been blessed? Looking only at ourselves doesn't tell us much. We need to know the answers to these questions for other people to know how we measure up. Very little can come out of this. We either find ways to be jealous of others or find ways to feel superior to them. But when we compare ourselves to Jesus, there's no room for either. He holds all the power, all the glory, all the knowledge, and all the love. We will never "out know" Him, or be able to "out power" Him, and we most certainly will never be able to "out love" Him. He is the only standard worth chasing. Chapters (00:00:02) - How to Build a Personal Pride(00:00:48) - How to Prepare for a Hurricane in New York(00:04:52) - Hurricane Florence's path through the mountains(00:07:49) - Hurricane Florence: Taking a boat to the beach(00:09:18) - Chick Fil A In The Elevator(00:11:36) - "Oh, That's Pretty!"(00:12:03) - Christian Karma(00:16:38) - Getting It Out of the Cash(00:17:17) - Karma and the consequences of actions(00:20:12) - Respondent: Consequences of Our Actions(00:23:31) - Consequence and Result(00:25:53) - Can Christians Still Live in Sin?(00:26:15) - Will Christians Sin?(00:30:02) - How to Deal with Homeless People(00:30:09) - What About the Sins That You're Still Doing?(00:33:04) - Can I Do X and Be a Christian?(00:37:02) - 7 Deadly Sins of the Christian People(00:41:12) - Sin begins in the mind(00:44:19) - Can I Do This and Be a Christian?(00:47:07) - The standard is Christ(00:48:37) - John 2:1 Through 10(00:50:54) - Eternal Heaven and New Earth(00:53:49) - Isaac on the New Heaven and New Earth(00:57:44) - Hurricanes and the Rotation(00:59:19) - God Isn't a Cosmic Killjoy(01:03:16) - In the Elevator With Dr. Phil(01:03:57) - There Are 8 Million Stories in A Naked City
Sometimes we give our best effort, and things don't work out. Other times they don't work out because we don't give them our best effort. I've honestly never known which was harder to deal with. On one hand, you have to deal with regret when you know you could have tried harder. But on the other, when your best wasn't good enough, it's a downright humiliating thing to have to accept. Both are hard to live with, but neither can outrun God's grace. God's grace far exceeds our best efforts or our failures. More than our effort, God desires our hearts, to put our faith in Him and know that His best efforts always work out.
Always Be Praising

Always Be Praising

2025-09-2201:03:47

There's a scene from an old baseball movie called Moneyball. In the scene, a player hits a ball deep into the outfield and immediately runs as fast as he can towards first base with no regard for the ball. As he rounds first, he trips over the bag into an embarrassing 15-foot barrel roll. Crawling frantically back towards first base, he looks up to opposing players and his own coaches' playful laughter at his expense. More embarrassing than his fall, was that he hadn't even realized that he'd hit the ball 60 feet over the fence.  It's easy to get so caught up in our search for God's will that we forget that, by accepting His salvation, His will for our life is already fulfilled, and we've received His ultimate gift. Our search should now be for how we respond to the grace He has shown us.  Contentment isn't about being satisfied with what God has given us. It's about realizing that He has already given us the only thing that matters. The more we wrap our hearts around this concept, the less we see value in anything but Him and Him alone, and the more we rest in Him calling the shots from here. 
To Live is Christ

To Live is Christ

2025-09-1201:24:24

What did Paul mean when he said "to live is Christ"? Charlie Kirk knew. Very few people exemplify Christlikeness as well as Charlie did. He spoke the truth with more grace and love than most can manage these days. He stood firm teaching the word of God courageously, never alarmed by the many opponents to his purpose. He worked fearlessly, and patiently, to try to unify a crooked and perverse generation. He didn’t lay down his life voluntarily, but he was obedient to the point of death.   We lost a bright light in a dark world yesterday, but his life didn’t end. Charlie’s life was eternal from the moment he surrendered it to Jesus. Our loss was his ultimate gain, and I am grateful for his faithful service to the Gospel. Chapters (00:00:02) - Living on a Privete(00:02:44) - I Didn't Read The Flashpoint(00:03:54) - How Do We Live As Christ?(00:07:20) - Corinthians, Galatians and Ephesians(00:09:28) - Too Good to Be True(00:12:25) - Tongues tied in the seminary(00:14:12) - Reverend Kenny on Communion(00:16:32) - When You Can't Plan Your Life(00:18:53) - What's Your Lesson for Today?(00:20:59) - The Too Good to Be True(00:24:02) - Jesus on Personal Responsibility(00:26:21) - John 11:1-2(00:31:14) - Bradley on God and the Creationist(00:38:10) - God's Truth in One Verse(00:40:29) - The Man Who Missed Ben's Sermon(00:43:38) - Good Samaritans on Facebook(00:47:36) - If God Were One of Us(00:51:51) - Paul's attitude toward Philippians 2(00:52:31) - Being Nice to Non-Believers(00:54:40) - John 8: Don't Forget How Much He Loves You(00:57:42) - There's Still Plenty of God's Beauty in Your Neighborhood(00:59:27) - A Lesson on the Nones(01:05:05) - Deception of the Good News(01:08:46) - How Much of the Country attends Church on a Regular basis(01:12:50) - Creeper Creep in Southern Baptist Church(01:18:38) - Protecting the Fabric(01:20:23) - Contentment in Psalm 18:1-3(01:23:24) - In the Elevator With Grading Homework
Knowing God

Knowing God

2025-09-0554:03

There's a subtle, but huge difference, between knowing about God, and having a personal relationship with Him. You can know that God is all powerful and all knowing, without experiencing the peace that comes from trusting Him.  You can know that God forgives sin, without experiencing the grace of His forgiveness for the worst thing you've ever done.  You can know that God wants you to have joy, without experiencing the patience He shows while you fight His plans to provide it.  You can know that Jesus paid for your access to this relationship, without feeling the love that compelled Him to pay such a price. Knowing God, vs. knowing about God, is a distinction that makes all the difference.    Chapters (00:00:02) - Swimming in the Pool(00:03:08) - TRAVEL: Adventures along the Mississippi(00:04:11) - Strengthening Yourself in the Lord(00:05:09) - Lost Phone(00:06:02) - Strengthening Yourself in the Lord(00:12:01) - Trusting God(00:16:18) - Heavenly Wait: Praying For Changes(00:19:45) - How to Strengthen Our Souls in the Lord(00:26:24) - Part 3 of Humility(00:31:57) - Knowing About God and Knowing God(00:36:37) - Getting Away From the World(00:41:45) - Quiet Time on Vacation(00:46:08) - Pray Without Ceasing for the Lord(00:48:16) - Another homework assignment for Philippians(00:48:33) - Philippians 1:21: To Live Is Christ(00:52:16) - Andy Griffith on His Face
Glorifying God

Glorifying God

2025-08-3001:05:24

As I grow closer to the Lord, the more I am marveled by His creation around us. I love to point out nice sunsets to the kids, or find a good place to go for a walk away from the man made stuff.  But it can be easy to forget that of all of God's creation, we are His most precious. He created the world around us to show us His power, but He created us to show us His love.  How can we be a light that points others to His love the same way the sun points us to His power?  Chapters (00:00:02) - Hong Kong Phooey(00:03:23) - Dukes of Hazzard(00:05:41) - Andy Griffith on His Color Episodes(00:08:52) - Southern People Driving On Highway 401(00:11:43) - God Seeing Me As Righteous(00:15:31) - God Isn't Here for Me, but I Am(00:20:29) - How Can a Holy God Love Me?(00:23:31) - John 1: Truth in Our Hearts(00:28:44) - Labor Day is the earliest it can be(00:33:07) - Does Flood Insurance Work?(00:34:51) - Prayer: To glorify God(00:40:00) - Blowhard on His Condition(00:41:14) - Brain Task: Judas Never Had a Spiritual Interest in Jesus(00:46:37) - Separation of Judas and Jesus(00:50:17) - Pride is the Biggest Sin(00:53:14) - David at his lowest point(00:57:03) - Judea on Judas in the Bible(01:01:09) - Saved From Other People's Sins(01:04:46) - North Carolina History
Serving God isn't an obligation. It's a priviledge, one given by Him and Him alone. God doesn't take church attendance. He doesn't count Hail Mary's. We aren't credited with righteousness based on mission trips or Sunday school. We are credited by grace alone, through faith alone.  We are natually born scorekeepers. We appreciate that Jesus wiped out the bad that we've done. But we still want Him to credit us for the good He's done through us.  He doesn't need us. He can do anything, any way He chooses. And He chooses, above all else, to have a relationship with us.  He paid all He possibly could to offer us this gift, and we expect a pat on the back for accepting it.   Chapters (00:00:02) - Benjamin on Confessions(00:00:57) - Daniel Had A Funeral(00:03:35) - Sausage in the City(00:06:05) - Birthday Gifts for Kids(00:09:09) - Swimmer's Swim Cap(00:12:31) - A Good Guy's Gift(00:14:03) - Brandon Gets A Birthday Gift(00:15:28) - Ben's 55th Birthday(00:18:05) - Kenny Westbrook on His Birthday Present(00:18:29) - God's Love For Crazies(00:22:03) - Don't Worry About Relationships at 25(00:25:37) - Don't Worry About Tomorrow(00:29:39) - God's Love for Us(00:34:11) - Walking by the Spirit(00:37:18) - Golf Lessons For Amateur Swimmers(00:39:15) - God's Weight on Us(00:42:07) - Daniel 9: In Jesus Name(00:45:17) - The Lord's Prayer(00:49:31) - He Uses The Sip Club at Panera(00:52:39) - How To Get Out of a Racket(00:54:14) - Daniel 9: The End of Man in One(00:57:49) - Patriotism in the South(01:03:24) - Understanding the Infinite Love of God(01:05:39) - How to Love Your Mother(01:08:40) - How to Pray for Your Own Life(01:12:18) - Ben's Car Gets Passed Inspection(01:14:12) - The 6 P's of Bible Study(01:18:43) - Reasons We Had A Pool
Seek God. Period.

Seek God. Period.

2025-08-1401:19:39

Have you ever gone out to eat and filled up so much on the bread that you didn't have room for the entree? How frustrating is that!? Load up so much on the free bread that you only have room for 3 bites of the main course. Worst of all, the bread only lasts about 2 hours. Then you're hungry again and settling for a $40 microwaved steak.  The same thing can happen in our spiritual lives. In our haste to be satisfied, we fill up on the carb loaded junk, leaving no room for God to truly satisfy us.  More often than I want to admit, I'm asking how I can seek God so He will give me what I think I need, forgetting that seeking God is all that I need.  Chapters (00:00:02) - Biblical Questions for the Week(00:03:09) - Ticket to Heaven(00:06:06) - Easter Crosses on a Bank Sign(00:08:07) - God's Help For Hair!(00:10:17) - Mark 5: Legion and the Message(00:12:01) - MacArthur Study Bible: The Miracles of Jesus(00:16:27) - Luke 11: The Spiritual Healing(00:20:51) - Life is Not Equally Fair(00:26:26) - What She's Got and Don't Compare(00:27:05) - Ecclesiastes 9: The Prosperity Gospel(00:27:57) - The Secret to Living a Rich Life(00:31:03) - Scott Scheffler on Renewing His Mind(00:35:09) - PGA Champion Brandon Lee on the Trophy(00:38:50) - God's Love Is Not Promised(00:41:21) - How to Write a Good Sermon(00:44:32) - Pastor's Prayer for Saturday Night(00:48:07) - Colossians 3: The Most Important Part for Teens(00:52:49) - Demon Possession in the Gospel(00:57:20) - Pierce on the Spiritual Stuff(01:01:32) - Non-Baptists and Islam(01:07:22) - How to Convert a Muslim(01:10:25) - Are All The Religions Anti-Christ?(01:12:54) - Starting the Series on John 1(01:14:12) - God's Plan for Luke 12(01:17:28) - Pl polo
I'm the world's worst for keeping my car on empty. My theory is that I get better gas milage by keeping my fuel load light. $10 bucks at a time, every day or so, that's my game plan.  But apparently the shelf life on a 4-runner's fuel sensor is about 213,000 miles. So I recently started playing the old odometer game. Fill up, reset the odometer, and keep the odometer below 400. Now I'm not quite so confident in my splash-and-go stategy. I check the odometer more often than I check my mirrors, and if it hits triple digits I start second guessing if I remembered to reset it. We can do the same thing with our spiritual tank. If we're not careful, we start relying on the fuel light to tell us when we're getting low. But God didn't create us to run on fumes. His desire is to fill us with the Spirit so we can fully enjoy the fellowship with Him!  Chapters (00:00:02) - Prayer: Taking the scenic route(00:00:47) - Who Really Owns the Church?(00:03:27) - Seniors Get Confused By Birthday Texts(00:06:12) - Happy Birthday!(00:08:55) - How to grow a fig tree(00:11:31) - Big vines grow wild in Montana(00:11:48) - Israel Was Scattered For 2,000 Years(00:17:57) - Separation of Jew and Christian(00:23:07) - Adam Levine on Jews and Christianity(00:28:47) - Biblical parallels between today and the Bible(00:33:49) - How do you prove God is real?(00:36:50) - Is Doubt Just as Serious as Idolatry?(00:41:17) - Doubt in the Life of God(00:45:54) - Daniel the Man of Prayer(00:49:32) - Moses and the Prayers(00:54:06) - Praying for a Distressed Person(00:57:02) - Prayer for the World(01:03:25) - Reclaiming the Promises of God(01:08:16) - Taking the Longer Route(01:13:56) - Deacon's List
Awesome to have Brandon Goss join us this week. This was a lot of fun and we hope he'll come back whenever he can. (And the Monster diet does seem to work, by the way.) How much fear, worry, and doubt to we carry around with us? These aren't fun, and they aren't what God intends or wants for our life. He wants us to trust in Him completely.  When we follow Him with our whole heart, there's nothing to fear, because we know He is with us. There is nothing to worry about, because we know He holds the future. And there's nothing to doubt, because we know He is faithful.  It's simple math: fear, worry and doubt show us the part of our heart the Lord doesn't have.    Chapters (00:00:02) - How to Lose Weight on a Challenge(00:02:54) - Softball Coach(00:04:57) - Fat Kenny on 'This Morning'(00:07:36) - Brandon on The Fishing Podcast(00:08:46) - Kenny on Cutting My Grass(00:11:36) - How Real Is Podcast Analytics?(00:14:35) - Gardener Takes Over the Yard(00:15:55) - Eminem's "Use This Gospel"(00:20:16) - DJ Khaled on Eminem's 'All In'(00:23:56) - Josh Hamilton(00:30:10) - Josh Hamilton on Social Media and His Christian Calling(00:34:42) - Pastor: Do We Judge Others?(00:40:32) - Kenny on Judgeing People(00:42:26) - Another example of this is with Gabe(00:45:26) - Does God Allow His Anger to Last?(00:48:35) - Daniel the Book of Suffering(00:52:55) - When You Can't Get Down on Your Kids(00:53:25) - North Carolina drivers on the road: Too judgmental(00:57:32) - The Best Places to Live in North Carolina(01:01:13) - Malcolm Phelps on His Training(01:04:14) - Bob Phelps swims for fun(01:05:56) - Getting the Numbers this Week(01:06:24) - Joshua and Caleb: What Set Them Apart?(01:10:18) - Outcasts in Society(01:13:53) - How To Survive In the Heat
The Inner Most Parts

The Inner Most Parts

2025-07-2501:23:17

God desires truth in our inner most parts. That sure is inconvenient isn't it? None of us want to admit our struggles, maybe even to ourselves.  Kenny said people might be shocked to know who I really am, and you might be. So, brace yourself... I cuss a lot. Not as much as I used to, and I'm working on it. But I say a lot of things I'm glad y'all don't hear. I also like Miller Lite more than I probably should. And I'm about two cute blondes in yoga pants away from actually gouging my eyes out. And the pride, oh, the pride.  To be fair, I don't say the Lord's name in vain, I'm rarely actually intoxicated, and I've never committed adultery. I mean, technically, according to Romans, well and Matthew....look, I've never cheated, alright?!  This leaves me just enough wiggle room to also struggle with self-righteousness. I'm basically the worst parts of the Old Testament masked as a Pharisee.  Why admit this? Because in the hidden parts, God shows us wisdom. It's only by admitting the truth that we allow God to start changing it. 
Will You Trust Him?

Will You Trust Him?

2025-07-1801:22:57

I've had a lot of opportunities on this podcast to say some things I'd later regret. But of all of them, I think the line I regret the most came from the very first episode. I said "As long as I know I'm where God wants me, I don't care what the purpose of that is." I don't regret it because it was wrong. Honestly, it sounds pretty righteous to me. I regret it because it turns out it was a lie. To my pastor. In chruch. God reminds me of this pretty much every time I question Him.  Sometimes we feel like we're running on a treadmill. No matter how hard we try, nothing we do seems to move us where we are trying to go. Other times, we feel like dust in the wind, blown all over the place with no control at all over where we are heading.  But sometimes God wants us to stay put for a while, so He sends us a treadmill to keep us busy. Other times, He knows that we can't get where He wants us on our own, so He sends a gust of wind to help us get there.  There's a lot of peace to be found in what I said in the first episode. If you mean it. 
Sometimes life happens. This episode was recorded just before Christmas. Also 2 days before my computer crashed taking all of my files down with it. Fortunately, the recording was already uploaded to YouTube, so I was able to get my hands back on it. It comes in handy to have some extra episodes laying around when vacations and life keeps us from recording as often. I hope you enjoy the irony, considering we’re about as far away on the calendar from Christmas as we could possibly be. But Jesus is the gift that keeps on giving the whole year!
Faith or Flesh?

Faith or Flesh?

2025-06-2701:10:30

Every hour of every day, we face the decision of doing things our way, or God’s way. With so many opportunities to make the wrong decision, we are inevitably going to miss a few steps. But the more we practice walking with the Lord, the more instinctive it is to choose His way over ours. His Word teaches us, His Spirit guides us, and when we forget to rely on those, His Grace sustains us.
There’s a great quote from one of my favorite movies: “Good judgement is the result of experience, and a lot of experience comes from bad judgement.”Certainly, God wants us to develop good judgement. But we get frustrated that He allows us to have bad judgement along the way. Free will isn’t always convenient, but it is part of His plan. When we make mistakes, or things just don’t work out the way we hoped, we have a choice in how we can handle it. It’s so easy to fall into blame, regret, and guilt. But when we remember God’s patience, grace, mercy and faithfulness, we can find joy and gratitude in how God will use them for growth.
The Talons of Sin

The Talons of Sin

2025-05-2601:17:48

Jesus bought our freedom with His blood. Before the Cross, we were bound by our sin, but now we have a choice. But it still our choice. We decide how to use this freedom. Unfortunately, part of having freedom is being free to make the wrong choices, too. But we are not free from the earthly consequences of sin. And freedom shouldn’t be mistaken for God's apathy toward our sins. He will still love us, but He will hate our decisions. And out of His love for us, don't be surprised if He goes out of His way to redirect and correct them if they become habits in our lives. When we see our kids in danger, we tend to throw tactful out the window. Sometimes God has to do the same with us. But as His children, we shouldn’t lose sight of the love that He is showing us, even in the harsh corrections.
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