The Overhaul Fire Podcast

<p>The Overhaul, hosted by Preston Lyons, dives into the tough conversations the fire service needs to address—leadership, culture, accountability, and the personal battles we face behind the scenes. We expose what’s not working, share real stories from the field, and bring forward-thinking solutions to help firefighters lead with purpose and leave the job better than they found it.</p>

Episode 11: The American Fire Service has Thorns featuring Jake Dickes from Sons of Irons

In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Captain Jake Dickes shares his journey in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of family, faith, and community. He discusses the challenges of promotion, the need for positive leadership, and the significance of realistic training. Dix highlights the role of passion in firefighting and the necessity of addressing negativity within the firehouse. He concludes with a powerful analogy about the goat head plant, illustrating the multifaceted approach needed to foster a positive culture in the fire service.

12-15
01:20:44

Episode 10: Safety in firefighting is about preparation, not avoidance, featuring Chris Wessels

This episode of the Overhaul podcast features a deep dive into the life and career of Chief Chris Wessels, exploring his 34-year journey in the fire service, the importance of family, and the lessons learned along the way. The conversation touches on leadership, mentorship, and the balance between aggression and safety in firefighting.

12-01
01:42:24

Episode 9: The Quest for Sleep Optimization Featuring Dr. Leah Kaylor

In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, Preston Lyons speaks with Dr. Leah Kaylor, a psychologist specializing in sleep hygiene for first responders and military veterans. They discuss the importance of sleep, its connection to mental health, and practical strategies to improve sleep quality. Dr. Kaylor shares her journey into sleep psychology, the challenges first responders face with sleep, and the significance of establishing a consistent sleep routine. The conversation emphasizes the need for awareness of sleep issues and the impact of lifestyle choices on sleep quality.

11-17
50:11

Episode 8: The Pod Class Experience featuring Michael "Stickers" Goldstein

In this engaging conversation, Preston Lyons and Mike Stickers Goldstein discuss their upcoming participation in the March Mayhem conference, focusing on the importance of networking, learning, and collaboration in the fire service. They delve into the unique experiences offered by pod classes, the value of live fire training, and the significance of overcoming ego in a training environment. The discussion highlights the need for diverse training opportunities and the importance of mentorship and community within the firefighting profession. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into the critical aspects of firefighting, emphasizing the importance of firefighter IQ, fitness, and innovative training techniques. They discuss the unique challenges faced by rural firefighters and the significance of rapid intervention teams. The conversation also highlights the need for specialized training for engineers and the evolving nature of fire ground operations, particularly in high-rise buildings. Networking and community building within the firefighting profession are underscored as essential elements for success and growth.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Conference Excitement02:38 The Pod Class Experience06:35 Networking and Learning Opportunities10:51 Instructor Highlights and Class Expectations14:32 Hands-On Training and Live Fire Experiences20:22 The Importance of Failure in Learning24:58 Ego and Comfort in Learning Environments30:00 Instructor Interactions and Building Connections31:13 Hot Classes and Training Fundamentals33:52 Gaining Confidence for Fireground Success36:06 Training and Gear Responsibility38:04 The Importance of Communication with Departments41:03 Embracing Knowledge Transfer in Fire Training41:52 The Role of Thermal Imaging in Firefighting42:59 Understanding Live Fire Training Classes44:18 The Dagum Promise: A Commitment to Rescue47:47 Mastering Basic Skills for Fireground Incidents49:05 Developing Firefighter IQ Beyond the Door50:34 Fitness and Health in Firefighting52:12 The Reality of Rural Firefighting55:33 The Importance of Engineer Training01:01:11 Rural Fire Tactics and Limited Staffing01:03:20 Embracing Challenges and Growth01:04:14 Essential Training for Modern Firefighting01:06:25 Innovative Approaches to Fire Operations01:08:16 Understanding Standpipe Operations01:10:30 The Importance of Primary Search Techniques01:14:01 Data-Driven Training for Firefighters01:19:43 Leveraging Social Media for Firefighter Education01:25:08 Final Thoughts and Conference Insights

11-10
01:32:12

Episode 7: The Mata Fuego Way. featuring Felix Manjarrez

SummaryIn this episode of the Overall Podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Felix Manjarrez, a seasoned firefighter with 23 years of experience in the FDNY. They discuss Felix's journey into the fire service, the evolution of his motivations, the culture of brotherhood within firefighting, and the challenges faced in the 911 system. The conversation also touches on the importance of mental health, managing burnout, and the role of jiu-jitsu in enhancing physical fitness and mental resilience for firefighters. Felix shares his candid views on diversity and inclusion in the fire service, emphasizing the need for competence over mere representation. In this conversation, Felix Manjarrez discusses the critical role of the Health and Fitness Unit in the fire academy, emphasizing the importance of physical training, functional skills training, and the impact of mentorship on probationary firefighters. He shares insights on managing stress, prioritizing sleep, and the significance of nutrition and hydration for first responders. Felix also highlights the need for community building within the firehouse and the importance of down-regulation techniques to improve overall well-being. He advocates for holistic approaches to health, including the use of THC and CBD for recovery, and encourages firefighters to make proactive changes in their lives to enhance their performance and longevity in the field.https://matafuegotraining.com/

10-31
02:00:47

Episodes 6: Brotherhood starts in the Firehouse, featuring Chief Eddie Robinson

In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, Chief Eddie Robinson shares his extensive experience in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of commitment, family, and legacy. He discusses the significance of brotherhood and how it starts within the firehouse, as well as the challenges of navigating generational differences in the workforce. Chief Robinson advocates for an aggressive firefighting culture and emphasizes the importance of accountability among team members. He also highlights the importance of leadership and the responsibility of fire chiefs to be present and engaged with their teams. The conversation concludes with a focus on rebranding the fire department to foster a positive culture and community impact.

10-15
01:17:04

Episode 5: The Check Engine Light Concept, featuring Rob Wilson

In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, Preston Lyons speaks with Rob Wilson, a performance educator who specializes in training first responders and military personnel. They discuss the importance of self-care and performance longevity in high-stress professions, such as firefighting. Rob introduces the 'Check Engine Light' analogy to help first responders recognize personal health signals and emphasizes the need for a culture of wellness within the fire service. The conversation also addresses the challenges faced by younger generations of first responders, the balance between physical strength and cardiovascular fitness, and the importance of monitoring health indicators to prevent catastrophic performance failures. In this conversation, Rob Wilson discusses the importance of managing stress and health risks, particularly for first responders. He emphasizes the need for long-term health strategies, building a personal health toolkit, and creating supportive systems within communities. The discussion also covers effective decompression techniques and the significance of fostering a culture of encouragement and accountability among peers.

10-01
01:44:43

Episode 4: The Awakening Moment, feat. Andrew Johnston

In this episode of The Overhaul, host Preston Lyons of Relentless Rejects sits down with Andrew Johnston to dive into the heart of what makes great firefighters—and great leaders. From the lessons learned at the LCC Fire School to the importance of building strong relationships, Andrew opens up about the challenges of leadership, navigating imposter syndrome, and how staying grounded can make all the difference.And because leadership isn’t just about tactics and titles, Preston and Andrew also bring in some inspiration from an unlikely coach: Ted Lasso. Expect a mix of fire service grit, honest reflection, and a little humor to keep things real.Tune in for a conversation that’s equal parts training, leadership, and personal growth—with insights you can carry back to the firehouse and beyond.

09-15
01:50:22

Episode 3: Flow and Vent with Rob Policht

In this episode of the Overhaul podcast, host Preston Lyons from the Relentless Rejects engages with Rob Policht, a company officer and founder of Flow and Vant. They discuss the importance of family support in the fire service, Rob's unexpected journey into firefighting, and the unique challenges of leadership, especially during crises like COVID-19. The conversation emphasizes the need for continuous learning, credibility, and accountability in leadership roles, as well as the significance of playing the long game in career development and fostering a supportive firehouse culture. In this engaging conversation, Rob and Preston delve into the themes of legacy, communication, and the importance of promoting a strong firehouse culture. They discuss the significance of training and the evolution of Flow Invent, emphasizing the need for firefighters to seize every opportunity and to consider their impact on the community. The dialogue highlights the balance between personal growth and collective responsibility within the fire service.

09-01
01:31:10

Episode 2: The Great Ones featuring Todd Edwards

In this episode of The Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons from the Relentless Rejects engages with Captain Todd Edwards, a seasoned fire service professional, discussing the importance of family support, continuous learning, and the challenges of company officer development. They explore the evolving nature of fire service conferences, the critical role of company officers in shaping future firefighters, and the need for effective training for acting officers. The conversation emphasizes the traits that distinguish great company officers, including humility, communication skills, and an understanding of their crew's personal lives. In this conversation, Todd discusses his leadership philosophy in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of trust, humility, and realistic training. He highlights common mistakes made by company officers, such as the blame game and arrogance, and stresses the need for a strong crew identity built through consistent training. Todd also elaborates on the significance of command presence and how it is developed through experience and training, ultimately reinforcing the positive impact firefighters have on their communities.

08-15
01:39:00

Episode 1: The Path to Legacy, featuring Chief Brian Brush

In this episode of the Overhaul Podcast, host Preston Lyons engages with Chief Brian Brush, discussing the importance of family, community, and brotherhood in the fire service. They explore the need for a positive shift in mindset, the significance of education and training, and the challenges of recruitment. Chief Brush shares insights on building a search culture, understanding NFPA standards, and the impact of health on firefighters. The conversation emphasizes the importance of legacy and continuous improvement in the fire service.

08-01
01:15:06

Episode 56: We Can Love People Well, featuring Blake Stinnett from Next Rung

In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons discusses the importance of mental health in the fire service with Blake Stinnett, co-founder of Next Rung, and the initiatives taken to support first responders. They delve into personal stories, the impact of family, and the mission of Next Rung to provide peer support and resources for mental health. The conversation also explores community engagement through podcasts and events, such as Bearers of the Oath, highlighting the importance of a supportive network within the fire service. In this conversation, Blake Stinnett shares his insights on the importance of brotherhood, mission-minded culture, and leadership within the fire service. He discusses his personal journey through a life-altering accident, emphasizing the resilience and support from the community that helped him recover. The dialogue underscores the importance of intentional relationships among firefighters and the significance of mental health awareness within the profession..

07-15
01:29:02

Episode 55: Pressure is a Privilege, featuring Ryan Scellick from Young Officers on Fire

In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons and guest Ryan Sellick discuss the importance of mentorship, training, and the differences between fire service and law enforcement training. They explore the challenges of mastering skills in the fire service, the psychological aspects of training under stress, and the need for focused skill development. Sellick emphasizes the importance of feedback and coaching in helping firefighters improve their skills and decision-making abilities. In this conversation, Ryan Scellick discusses the importance of mastering firefighting skills, the critical role of company officers in mentoring recruits, and the need for psychological safety within the fire service. He emphasizes the significance of mentorship and the mission-driven mindset required for effective firefighting. The discussion also touches on the Young Officers on Fire initiative, which aims to foster leadership and development among young firefighters.

07-01
01:35:03

Episode 54: Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit featuring Austin Beier

In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Austin Beier, a dedicated firefighter and co-founder of the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit. They discuss the challenges of balancing family life with a demanding career in the fire service, the importance of mentorship and networking, and the differences between paid and volunteer firefighters. Austin shares his journey into the fire service, the significance of ongoing training and education, and the goals for the upcoming Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit. The conversation highlights the importance of passion, commitment, and community support in the fire service.

06-16
01:16:50

Episode 53: Accountability from the Street featuring Chief Candace Ashby

In this episode, Chief Candace Ashby shares her extensive experience in the fire service, discussing the importance of communication, leadership, and problem-solving within fire departments. She emphasizes the need for trust between administration and operations, the challenges faced by firefighters, and the common issues that plague organizations. Through her Boss Series, she aims to foster better leadership and accountability in the fire service, advocating for a bottom-up approach to leadership that empowers firefighters to voice their concerns and solutions. In this conversation, Candace Ashby discusses the complexities of leadership within the fire service, emphasizing the need for proper training and accountability at all levels. She emphasizes the significance of company officers in shaping organizational culture and the importance of peer accountability in combating negativity. Ashby also contrasts management and leadership, advocating for a balance between the two to foster a positive work environment. She demonstrates her commitment to investing in her team through training and morale-boosting initiatives, illustrating how proactive leadership can promote a healthier organizational culture. In this conversation, Candace Ashby discusses her unorthodox approach to leadership in the fire service, emphasizing the importance of accountability, mentorship, and personal development. She shares her experiences in fostering a positive culture within her battalion, highlighting the need for open communication and constructive feedback. Ashby also addresses the challenges of leadership, the significance of continuous learning, and the responsibility of individuals to improve themselves and their organizations. Her passion for helping others and leaving a positive legacy in the fire service is evident throughout the discussion.

05-29
01:35:15

Episode 52: The Underdogs featuring Donovan Carasco from Coyote Fire Training

In this episode of the Relentless Rejects podcast, host Preston Lyons speaks with Donovan Carasco, a Texas firefighter, about his journey in the fire service, the importance of family support, and the challenges of transitioning between departments. They discuss the significance of department culture, the impact of test anxiety on performance, and the passion for truck work. Donovan shares insights on founding Coyote Fire Training and navigating the politics of fire training, emphasizing the need for humility and kindness in the fire service. In this conversation, Donovan Carasco and Preston discuss the importance of building relationships within the fire service, continuous learning, and balancing family life with training commitments. They emphasize the significance of customer service in firefighting and the generational divide that affects the culture and practices within fire departments. The dialogue highlights the need for mentorship and the value of learning from experienced and newer firefighters. In this conversation, Donovan Carrasco and Preston discuss the balance between adhering to policies and applying common sense in firefighting. They emphasize the importance of adaptability on the fire ground, the value of networking and building relationships within the fire service, and the innovations in training equipment that enhance firefighter skills. The discussion also highlights the significance of mentorship and brotherhood among firefighters, culminating in a call to action for motivation and leadership within departments.

05-19
01:30:59

Episode 51: "It's okay to have bad days" featuring Chip Ashford

In this episode of the Relentless Rejects Podcast, host Preston Lyons and guest Chip Ashford discuss various themes surrounding the fire service, including family dynamics, the legacy of firefighting, the importance of firehouse culture, and the challenges faced by firefighters in balancing work and family life. Chip shares his experiences as a second-generation firefighter, the significance of mentorship, and the need for training and community support. The conversation also delves into the evolving nature of firehouse culture and the importance of bridging generational gaps to foster a positive environment. In this conversation, Chip Ashford discusses various aspects of fire service culture, focusing on the importance of rescue operations, the need for a victims-first mindset, and the significance of training and leadership in creating a positive fire department culture. He emphasizes the role of external training, the necessity of setting expectations from day one, and the importance of reinforcing the 'why' behind the job. The conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing safety with an aggressive firefighting mindset and the lessons learned from near-miss incidents. In this conversation, Chip Ashford discusses the critical importance of safety culture in the fire service, emphasizing the need for training and decision-making in high-stress situations. He shares insights on mental health and coping mechanisms, highlighting the significance of peer support and finding balance in personal and professional life. The discussion culminates in reflecting on resilience and the importance of being there for one another in the fire service community.

05-05
01:39:22

Episode 49: Black Hat Behavior Featuring Josh Watt

In this episode, Preston and Josh discuss the importance of mental health resources for first responders, emphasizing the need for support systems within families and the fire service. They explore the challenges of balancing work and family life, coping mechanisms, and the impact of mental health on firefighters. The conversation also highlights the significance of mentorship and informal leadership, advocating for a supportive firehouse culture that encourages open discussions about mental health. In this conversation, J. Watt discusses the significance of self-motivation in the fire service, the balance between being respected and liked as a leader, and the importance of fostering a culture of self-starting among firefighters. He emphasizes the need for community over branding, the impact of passionate teaching, and the responsibility of firefighters to do the right thing for their crews and the civilians they serve.

04-14
01:45:20

Str8 UP Episode 2: "The Warrior Mindset in Firefighting" With John Chambliss

In this episode of the Straight Up Podcast, hosts Relentless Rejects and John Chambliss discuss the importance of a warrior mindset in the fire service, the impact of leadership on morale, and the challenges of promotions based on testing rather than experience. They emphasize the need for strong support from administration and the value of audience-driven content in their podcast. The conversation also touches on the significance of social media in shaping perceptions within the fire community. In this conversation, John and Relentless Rejects discuss the critical importance of maintaining high standards within the fire service, emphasizing accountability, training, and mentorship. They explore the need for a disciplined approach to emergency response, the significance of being prepared and familiar with gear, and the value of personal growth through challenges. The dialogue highlights the necessity of fostering a culture of support and motivation among firefighters to ensure safety and efficiency on the job.

04-05
01:04:44

Episode 48: "Passing the torch, 72 Years of Firefighting Wisdom" featuring Dylan Clark and Edward "Pop Pop' Porter

This conversation features a heartfelt interview between Dylan Clark and his grandfather, Edward Porter, who has dedicated 72 years to public service, including significant time in the fire service. They discuss the evolution of firefighting, memorable experiences, and the importance of legacy in the fire service. Dylan shares his journey and the influence of his grandfather on his career, while Ed reflects on his early days in firefighting and law enforcement. The conversation highlights the challenges and changes in the fire service over the decades, as well as the personal stories that shape their experiences. In this engaging conversation, Preston and Dylan Clark explore the multifaceted aspects of leadership, respect, professionalism, and mental health within the fire service. They discuss the evolution of leadership styles across generations, the importance of earning respect through actions and appearance, and the critical need for mental health awareness among first responders. Dylan shares personal experiences and lessons learned from his extensive career, emphasizing the significance of training, taking action, and maintaining professionalism. The dialogue culminates in a heartfelt reflection on the legacy of firefighting and the importance of passing on knowledge to future generations.

04-04
01:07:36

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