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The Property Podcast from Property Hub (propertyhub.net) is the podcast for all property investors – new or experienced. Rob Bence and Rob Dix discuss a different property topic and property news item each week, passing on their knowledge and experience to the listeners. They both invest in UK Property so they practise what they preach. No hard sell, no bull just straight talking property investment advice!
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A top wealth firm says buy-to-let has had its day - but is that really true? We dig into the data, uncover what they missed, and reveal why property might be stronger than ever if you know how to play it.
(0:46) News story of the week.
(3:07) We’re recruiting! Check out our job roles.
(4:21) Property is officially dead?
(5.53) The Robs analyse their findings.
(7:49) Don’t ignore the power of leverage!
(9:54) London is underperforming – true or false?
(11:23) Steady growth isn’t sexy.
(14:24) Can a typical buyer even afford a house?
(18:09) Government vs. Landlords.
(21:40) Be mindful of where information is coming from!
(23:07) Hub Extra
Links mentioned
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/landlords-national-insurance-tax-rental-income-xr085xd6s
www.propertyhub.net/jobs
https://www.rathbones.com/en-gb/wealth-management/media-centre/news-and-comment/research-shows-golden-age-of-uk-property-investment-is-over
https://www.whatsapp.com/
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It’s time for your weekly dose of Ask Rob & Rob, so let’s get stuck into some interesting listener questions...
(0:39) Should Bon pursue a HMO in a less desirable area if the numbers stack up? A major new housing development nearby could improve things – but is it worth the risk, or is location too important to gamble on? Rob and Rob give their thoughts.
(4:36) Sara has £50k to start her property investing journey and is unsure where to begin. Buying a low-cost flat outright isn’t advisable in this scenario, but can Rob & Rob sway her to use a mortgage to unlock better growth opportunities?
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This week, Rob B is joined by Kelly from Sirius Finance to tackle the big mortgage questions on every investor’s mind. From product ranges to market predictions, she shares her expert insights and top advice for navigating today’s property market.
(1:21) - A quick overview of the current mortgage market
(2:58) - Kelly’s rate cut predictions
(4:40) - The best product ranges for investors
(8:19) - The return of 80% LTV mortgages
(10:39) - What would Kelly do?
(13.49) - “Further advances” explained
(15:16) - Are we out of the down valuation slog?
(17:05) - How are investors adjusting their strategies as rates fall?
(20:08) - Kelly’s top advice for investors navigating the current market
Links mentioned:
Kelly Rule, Senior Associate, Sirius Finance
https://siriusfinance.co.uk/
kelly.rule@siriusfinance.co.uk
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This week on Ask Rob & Rob, we’ve got two great listener questions – including one on a topic we’ve never covered before…
(0:51) David already has two HMOs under his belt and now has his eye on a 6-bed property for his third. He’s got around £100,000 to put towards it, but he needs another £50,000. So he’s wondering… how can he get the extra funds?
(6:45) Tom’s just bought two leasehold flats that were repossessed from the previous owner – who also happened to be the freeholder. Now he’s looking to buy the freehold, but it seems like a complicated process, so he’s hoping Rob & Rob can shed some light.
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At times property investment can be challenging, and obstacles crop up when you least expect them. But what separates those who give up from those who push through? Mindset.
Tune in as Rob & Rob discuss the importance of having a bulletproof mindset and reveal the techniques they’ve used to transform their own lives, stay resilient through tough times, and ultimately succeed.
(0:55) News story of the week.
(2:05) What is a bulletproof mindset?
(5:33) Mindset habits that build resilience.
(20:24) Rob & Rob’s final takeaway
(21:21) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
How to Be Happy — Arthur C. Brooks Interview
The Daily Stoic
Letters From A Stoic – Seneca
The Courage To Be Disliked – Ichiro Kishimi
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It’s time for the latest edition of Ask Rob & Rob, so let’s dive right in!
(0:50) Dan has previously invested in stocks and shares and is now moving into property to take advantage of leverage. As a high earner, it’s more tax efficient for him to invest through a limited company, but he wants to know whether the ‘ultimate property strategy’ still works in that setup. Since refinancing doesn’t provide the same income benefits in a company structure, he asks if there’s an alternative way to achieve a similar outcome.
(3:37) Maggie’s due to complete on her second flat using the BRR strategy, with plans to move into flips and eventually HMOs. While she thrives on sourcing deals and managing refurbs, she struggles with the admin side. She asks Rob & Rob how they handle the business side of property and how much of this should be handed over to an accountant.
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Interest rates have been cut, but what’s the real impact on mortgages and the property market?
Add to that huge news from London’s property scene and some surprising rental market data - Rob & Rob dig into what’s really going on, and what this means for you as an investor.
To wrap things up, they share the new research tools they’ve been testing to help you stay ahead.
(0:44) News story of the week
(2:28) What’s the impact of the latest base rate cut
(3:12) Why London’s new home registrations have plummeted
(7:18) Surprising findings from the Private Landlord Survey
(9:55) Interesting data from the rental market
(12:59) What’s really going on in London
(14:40) Learn why the homelessness minister has quit
(15:18) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Bank of England cuts interest rates to 4%, the lowest level in two years
TPP308: Leverage: A property investors secret weapon
House prices:
Nationwide house price data
Halifax house price data
London:
London new home starts slump 59% as safety regime bites
London property market more split than it has been since Brexit – Knight Frank
Sellers in prime central London ‘accepting losses’
Landlord analysis:
Lettings Spotlight: Market Trends – Q2 2025
Rents:
DPS reports average tenancy now more than 1,000 days ‘Dysfunctional’ County Court system ‘failing to deliver’ justice
Other:
Homelessness Minister Rushanara Ali quits over rent hike claims
ChatGPT5
Gemini
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Welcome back to Ask Rob & Rob, where we help tackle your property questions. Let’s dive into the answers...
(0:49) Dee’s been offered three mortgage deals with product fees of 5%, 3%, and 0% - but calculations suggest the highest fee might actually be the cheapest overall. Should Dee stick with his current lender’s options or shop around?
(3:58) The EPC’s have expired on Ryan’s two properties. One letting agent says renew now, another says wait until a new tenancy. Who’s giving the correct advice?
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There’s a hidden danger zone that every property investor reaches, but whether you get trapped there or push through to success is up to you. Tune in as Rob & Rob reveal exactly what the Property Danger Zone is, why it’s so risky, and most importantly, how to escape it if you’re already stuck.
(0:44) News story of the week.
(2:58) What exactly is the property danger zone?
(9:11) How do you avoid getting trapped in it?
(14:30) Final words of wisdom from The Robs.
(16:07) Hub Extra.
Links mentioned:
Rental deposit scheme in UK ‘puts millions in the pockets of landlords
Wispr Flow
TalkTastic
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Another Tuesday, another Ask Rob & Rob, and we’ve got two cracking questions lined up this week!
(0:55) After hearing Rob and Rob discuss being more open to rent insurance, Francesco wants to know: even if you’re in a strong financial position and can handle occasional losses, do the guys still think it’s worth doing, or is it just being overly cautious?
(4:34) James is in the process of buying his third rental property — a leasehold maisonette that initially appeared to be a great investment, but he’s since discovered a clause regarding large ground rent increases. After negotiating a deed of variation with the seller, he wonders if there are still risks he might be missing and asks Rob and Rob whether it’s worth proceeding or better to walk away.
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There’s no sugar-coating it: the UK property market is broken in more ways than one. From outdated processes to a lack of stock, and let’s not even talk about stamp duty — it’s a system in desperate need of change.
In today’s episode, Rob & Rob aren’t holding back as they break down the biggest issues facing the market right now and, more importantly, share how they’d fix them.
(0:55) News story of the week.
(03:44) Thank you so much for all your support!
(6:40) What are the core problems with the housing market?
(7:28) The quick fixes that wouldn't work.
(9:10) Rob & Rob’s realistic solutions.
(32:35) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Hamptons downgrades rental growth forecast as market continues to cool
Give blood
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Happy Tuesday! It’s time for Rob & Rob to answer two more great questions from our listeners!
(0:46) Sam’s a first-time buyer and has found a property that looks like a great investment. He knows getting a buy-to-let mortgage might be tricky, so he’s considering using a residential mortgage with consent to let. He asks Rob & Rob whether this is a smart strategy and for their take on this approach.
(4:07) Karan’s in the process of buying a property in London but has hit a roadblock after discovering the lease includes a ground rent clause with no cap on future increases, which is making his lender nervous. They’re asking for a deed of variation, which the management company is happy to do, if the seller pays a £10k fee. He wants to know if his lender’s being overly cautious, if the fee is excessive, and how to avoid ending up with a problematic asset.
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For the first time on AOB, Rob & Rob are joined by a guest and it’s for something close to their hearts.
In this heartfelt episode, they chat with Sarah Field, Director of Sand Dams Worldwide, to hear how she went from building a global children’s football franchise to leading a charity transforming lives through access to clean water.
We’re currently aiming to raise £39,000 to fund a sand dam in Southeast Kenya – a simple but life-changing solution that can provide water, health, and opportunity for decades.
This episode isn’t about property, it’s about the impact we can have when we come together for a bigger purpose.
Donate now at propertyhub.net/water
Links:
Click here to learn how a sand dam works.
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Our most important project yet – and we need your help.
This week’s episode is a little different, as Rob & Rob hit pause on the usual property chat to share something very close to their hearts – a project with the power to change lives for generations.
We’re raising £39,000 to fund a sand dam in southeast Kenya, a simple life-changing solution that will provide clean, safe water to an entire community for decades.
And that’s just the beginning. As the ripple effect kicks in, families can farm, children return to school, land is restored, and the whole community gets the chance to build a more hopeful future.
With the strength you, our amazing Property Hub community, we know we can make it happen.
Even better, every donation will be matched, and those who donate will be entered into a prize draw, including the chance to win a private dinner with Rob & Rob.
Donate today at propertyhub.net/water
(0:47) News story of the week
(3:52) Learn about our most important project yet…
(10:25) Amazing prizes for you.
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It’s time for the latest edition of Ask Rob & Rob, so let’s dive right in!
(0:45) Adam’s gearing up to start his buy-to-let property journey, aiming to build a five-property portfolio over the next few years. With £45K saved and £150K of equity in his home, he’s weighing up whether to release funds from his main residence and buy outright or use his cash savings alongside a buy-to-let mortgage. He asks Rob & Rob which route they’d take and why.
(5:25) Brendan’s recently completed on an off-plan property and hired the developers in-house letting agency to manage it. But he’s discovered tenants were placed in the property before the sale was finalised without his knowledge or approval. With rent set lower than expected and no access to the tenancy agreement, he’s now questioning whether any of this is legal, and how he can take back control.
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The right resource at the right time can be life-changing for your property, business, and wealth-building journey. Big statement, right?
Speaking from experience, Rob & Rob share their hand-picked, tried-and-tested list of essential books, podcasts, and videos that have shaped their thinking and help drive their success.
Whether you’re just starting out, need a dose of motivation, or want to level up your property game, there’s something in here for every stage.
(0:54) News story of the week
(2:22) Rob & Rob’s life-changing list of go-to resources
(3:35) The perfect reads if you’re getting started
(7:44) Already investing but want to sharpen your skills
(9:55) Guidance if you’re feeling stuck or unmotivated
(16:33) Economic insights and next-level thinking
(18:22) Resources that will help grow your business
Links mentioned:
BTL lenders lower rates and streamline application processes
Resources for beginners:
Rich Dad Poor Dad | Robert T. Kiyosaki
TPP345: Rich Dad Poor Dad Revisited: 5 essential lessons, and 2 important warnings
The Richest Man in Babylon
TPP393: Ray Dalio: Understanding economic cycles and predicting the future
The Complete Guide to Property Investment – Rob Dix
The Beginner's Guide To UK Property Investing In 2025
You’ve started but want to improve:
Millionaire Fastlane – MJ DeMarco
7 Myths About Money – Rob Dix
Founders podcast by David Senra
Cashflow Quadrant – Robert Kiyosaki
I need motivation resources:
Shoe Dog – Phil Knight
Can’t Hurt Me – David Goggins
Total Recall – Arnold Schwarzenegger
A million miles in a thousand years – Donald Miller
Tony Robbins
Brian Tracey
I'm a veteran and want to be become a better investor:
Richer Wiser Happier – William Green
Lyn Alden’s blog
I want to improve my business:
$100M Offers
The ultimate blueprint for an insanely successful business – Keith Cunningham
My First Million podcast
Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business
Scaling Up (Revised 2022)
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Happy Tuesday! It’s time for another episode of Ask Rob & Rob, where we dive into your property questions.
(0:47) Sam’s eager to renovate his buy-to-let to boost its value and potentially increase the rent. But with upcoming rental reforms, especially the end of no-fault evictions and tribunals for rent disputes, he wants to know what rights he’ll have if a tenant refuses improvements to avoid a rent increase.
(3:18) Tom’s expecting to get £200k from a future property sale. He originally planned to buy a family home and invest in a buy-to-let through a limited company. But he’s now debating ditching homeownership entirely, using the full pot to build a portfolio, and possibly living in one of the company-owned properties. He asks Rob & Rob for their take on the strategy and whether there are any pitfalls.
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We’re at the halfway mark of 2025, making it the perfect time to look back at how the property market’s performed and what could be on the horizon.
Tune in as Rob & Rob dig into the latest data on property prices and rents, break down what’s driving recent changes, and discuss market sentiment.
Whether the year’s gone to plan or not, this episode’s packed with insights to help you make sense of the latest trends and take charge of the next six months.
(0:40) News story of the week
(5:50) We’re halfway through the year - what’s happened?
(6:25) The latest data on property prices
(8:25) What’s happening with rents?
(9:50) Looking at interest rates
(12:08) What’s in store for the rest of 2025?
(21:40) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
Regulation blocking many prudent buyers from homeownership
Interest-only mortgage could make comeback as regulator revisits rules
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We’re back for another round of listener questions, and this week we’ve got some tricky decisions...
(0:47) Aaron’s based in London with £25k in savings and some equity in his home. He’s keen to start investing, eyeing the Midlands or North, but torn on whether to tap into his equity or stick with his savings. And when choosing where to buy, what’s more important: making sure you’ve absolutely nailed the right town, or picking the best street in whichever location you go for?
(5:46) Long-time listener Josh has just offered on his second buy-to-let, but he’s worried. The building might fall under the Building Safety Act, he hasn’t seen an EWS1 form yet, and there’s something on the balcony that screams cladding or fire risk assessment. Should he run a mile or factor the risk into the price?
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Is the London property market making an unexpected comeback? Tune into this month’s market update, as Rob & Rob unpack the surprising stats from the capital, share a warning for landlords about looming EPC changes, and reveal some positive developments in the buy-to-let mortgage market.
(0:45) Surprising data for London’s housing market.
(5:58) Is the rental boom over?
(8:55) Finally, some good news for buy to let mortgages.
(10:35) The latest updates on the Renters Rights Bill.
(12:05) Landlord EPC ignorance – what?!
(13:53) Hub Extra
Links mentioned:
House prices:
Rightmove house price index
House prices in every London borough after unexpected jump in average property value
Number of million-pound homes for sale doubles since 2019
Rental market:
Hamptons Letting Index
Zoopla UK Rental Market Report
Mortgages:
Buy To Let investors have vastly improved mortgage choice
Other:
Renters Rights Bill may not take effect for months
Landlord EPC ignorance “may hamper government energy goals”
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would love to get rid of Stamp Duty. only problem with replacing it with property tax is that it is fair in the people who have bought a proper and already paid stamp duty. May have to phase it in, limit the property tax to only people that have lived in that house for over X amount of years to start with
Absolutely loving the insights shared on The Property Podcast — it’s always refreshing to hear grounded takes on market trends. For those who are diving deeper into Florida’s real estate data, especially recent valuations and ownership history, this resource on https://browardcountypropertyappraiser.org/ might be worth a look. Helps give a broader context to what’s being discussed here.
That sounds like a great listen for anyone diving into the property market! For those exploring U.S. opportunities, especially in Florida, you might also want to check out this helpful Florida land value resource: http://hillsboroughcountypropertyappraiser.org/. It offers updated insights that can support smarter investment decisions across counties.
Really enjoyed this episode! As someone in the property maintenance space in Australia, I can say that regular upkeep is just as important as location when it comes to long-term ROI. We’ve worked with investors who saved thousands by addressing repairs early — things like roof leaks, damaged gyprock, or old tiling. If you're looking for trusted help with property upkeep, we offer these services at https://allareasmaintenance.com.au/ Great insights as always!
Loved the deep dive into market trends! Renovations and small repairs still play a huge part in value-add strategies. We’ve helped landlords enhance rental appeal with services like carpentry, painting, and cabinet upgrades. You can see more on our site here: https://allareasmaintenance.com.au/ Keep the great content coming — it's really helpful!
Hi guys, love the podcast. I have a small portfolio of just 3 properties but I'm close to retirement age. I listened to your End Game episode with interest and was intrigued by the option of drawing down from mortgages. But I was unclear as to how I personally get to take advantage of the drawn down cash; isn't this 'extra' cash stuck in the company? Many thanks for all your effort on the podcast, long may they continue. Cheers, Steve
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interesting podcast - thanks!
interesting! but if course the news broke about a week BEFORE this episode that the UK economy officially went into recession in Q4 2023...
surely it's more likely "Mo" means "blocks of flats" - e.g. a house converted 2 or 3 flats, rather than a whole block of 7 or 10 or 30 flats like you'd find in e.g. a new build..?
Disagree with your BOE call. The deep recession prediction was an inflation fighting tool. They can't raise rates as high as they would like, so they tried to dent confidence and reduce spending via a deep recession call. Now they say no recession, my guess is they are worried about recession and maybe even deflation, and so now are trying to inject confidence into the market. If this confidence trick doesn't work they will have to cut rates and start printing again. Thanks for the great podcast!
Real estate has become a popular investment vehicle over the last 50 years or so. Here's https://www.fittra.co.uk/property-investment/ a look at some of the leading options for individual investors, along with the reasons to invest. Real estate is considered to be its own asset class and one that should be at least a part of a well-diversified portfolio. One of the key ways investors can make money in real estate is to become a landlord of a rental property.
When you think about real estate investing, the first thing that probably comes to mind is your home. Of course, real estate investors have lots of other options when it comes to choosing investments, and they're not all physical properties.
i know you talk about magic sauce which is that property prices/ rent increaces with inflation but the money you owe staying the same as you take out a mortgage and the price is fixed at that therefore the debts value decreases. doesn't interest rates on your mortgage and the fact that your mortgage changes over time mean that the money you owe goes up with inflation?
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hi guys. I currently own a flat rented out for 3 years I am currently living in it but now looking to buy and refurbish a new property looking at houses. I have significant equity in the flat but buying the next property will cost alot in stamp duty as a second property owner. do I keep the flat and rent and still buy the house or sell the flat and buy the house refurb and move on again? thanks
Where are the show notes they speak of?
Thanks a lot for this episode, guys! 🙌🏼 Are there any books/links you can recommend on property cycles? Cheers, Alex
Start of my Property Investment Journey! Just listen to first Podcast , got a few to go! 🙈I feel like this is what If been looking for . Really felt like it was on the same wavelength.
Barclays giving 2% to Ltd if you have businesses with them already.