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The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.

From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.

Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.

Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.

Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
237 Episodes
Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances. In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential. Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's mission is to map the biological basis of the varieties of psychedelic experience, enabling the precision design of novel altered states and a deeper understanding of the biological basis of consciousness. Mindstate Design Labs' backers include Y Combinator and founders of OpenAI, Neuralink, AngelList, Coinbase, Instacart, and Twitch. Prior to Mindstate Design Labs, Dillan worked in a $1 billion venture fund, executing and managing biopharma, medical device, and health tech investments ranging from pre-seed to publicly traded companies.   Highlights: Dillan’s journey from fundamentalist religious upbringing to finding psychedelics Sasha and Ann Shulgin, Tom Ray, and the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs Joining startup accelerator Y Combinator Intentionally designing states of consciousness The role of language and AI in altered states of consciousness Suing the DEA and winning   Links: Mindstate Design Labs: Dillan on Twitter:   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today!
Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery. Vanessa closes with resources and recommendations and shares her vision of sobriety of the soul as the next frontier for those in recovery. Vanessa Crites Vanessa Crites is a recovery strategist and educator dedicated to the thoughtful integration of psychedelics into sober living. She guides individuals towards profound healing and personal growth through mentorship and her flagship program Sobriety of the Soul. Drawing from a wealth of professional experience and personal recovery since 2005, Vanessa blends the rigor of evidence-based practices with the depth of spiritual wisdom to offer a safe and responsible pathway for those in recovery. Rooted in 12-Step principles, Vanessa’s approach bridges the gaps between traditional recovery models and the expansive potential of psychedelics, delivering a holistic understanding that encompasses spiritual, emotional, and psychological well-being. She is devoted to debunking misconceptions while championing harm reduction, prioritizing both personal and public well-being. Through her work, Vanessa illuminates a path beyond the confines of traditional sobriety approaches, guiding those in active recovery towards the empowerment of an awakened, authentic existence—what she calls “Soulful Sobriety.”   Highlights: Vanessa’s recovery journey and path to psychedelics The spiritual and psychedelic origins of AA and the 12 Steps of Recovery How Bill Wilson’s LSD experiences impacted his recovery Vanessa’s journey incorporating psychedelics into her recovery Sobriety of the Soul’s origin story and programming Synthetic vs. plant medicines for recovery The discernment needed to avoid reliance on psychedelic experiences Normalizing conversations about psychedelics in addiction recovery communities Resources for psychedelics and recovery   Links: Sobriety of the Soul: Vanessa’s free Recovery-Informed Microdose Guide: Bill Wilson’s article, “The Next Frontier: Emotional Sobriety”:   Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Join Paul F. Austin for an interesting weaving of meditation, psychedelics, and conscious leadership, with renowned executive coach Eric Kaufmann. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: This intimate conversation was recorded live from Eric’s “meditation temple” built beside his house in Southern California. Eric shares his journey from being kicked out of college to finding meditation and his early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice. He reveals his insights from a year-long meditation retreat and emphasizes the growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. Eric lays out his two books and their roadmaps to conscious leadership. Finally, the two explore how psychedelics can be integrated into coaching to help leaders transcend “ego myopia,” which Eric sees as the biggest barrier to executive effectiveness and conscious leadership. Eric Kaufmann: Eric Kaufmann combines an unrelenting commitment to results with an unyielding regard for spirit. He is the product of forty years of Zen practice seamlessly woven into three decades of business leadership, both as a corporate leader and advisor to leaders. Eric is an appointed Thought Leader at Harvard’s Institute of Coaching. He designed and taught the Coaching for Professionals program at San Diego State University, and has presented at TEDx. Author of The Four Virtues of a Leader and Leadership Breakdown, Eric is laser focused on teaching executives and leaders how to raise their game as human-centered leaders with bottom line accountability. Eric’s teaching and guidance to clients such as Dr. Bronner’s, Verizon, ASML, Sunpower, Circle, SDG&E, Alcon, and Facebook, weaves in tried-and-true wisdom gleaned from more than 15,000 hours as an executive guide. Eric has lived and worked on three continents, and managed and led at Fortune 100 firms. In addition to his degree in business, he is a certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and Master Scuba diving Instructor. In his previous life, he lived off the grid in a mountain cabin he built by himself. Eric is married for 25 years and is the blessed father of two remarkable young women who know how to navigate the Matrix.   Highlights: Finding spiritual communion through meditation From being kicked out of college to finding meditation Eric’s early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice Revelations from a year-long meditation retreat Turning home and work life into spiritual practices The growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business Cultivating community outside the workplace How conscious business practices can shape culture Unpacking the four virtues of a leader Transcending ‘Ego Myopia’ to conscious leadership Integrating psychedelic experiences through coaching Eric’s vision for creating more conscious leaders Learn more about Eric’s books   Links: Eric’s website: Eric on Instagram: Eric on LinkedIn:   Episode Sponsors: Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Senolytic. New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Dave Asprey, the “father of biohacking," to explore altered states—from psychedelics to neurofeedback. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dave shares his journey from discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas to revolutionizing biohacking. He unravels the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics, highlighting the potential benefits and risks of substances like ayahuasca. Then, Dave unpacks his 40 Years of Zen program, its unique neurofeedback approach, and the nuanced differences between neurofeedback and psychedelics. Finally, Dave shares his vision for the evolution of humanity, emphasizing biohacking, consciousness, and reclaiming sovereignty. Dave Asprey: Dave Asprey is an award-winning entrepreneur and tech innovator known around the world as "The Father of Biohacking." He's a multi-New York Times and national bestselling author of Game Changers, Head Strong, The Bulletproof Diet, and Smarter Not Harder, the creator of Bulletproof Coffee, and the host of the Webby Award-winning #1 rated health show, The Human Upgrade Podcast (formerly Bulletproof Radio). Dave is the founder and CEO of Upgrade Labs, the first franchise of biohacking gyms, and Danger Coffee, his mineralized, mold-free coffee. Over the last two decades Dave has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods, techniques, and products for enhancing mental and physical performance. Dave has personally spent over $2 million taking control of his own biology, pushing the bounds of human possibility all in the name of science evolution and revolution. The creator of the Bulletproof diet and innovator of Bulletproof Coffee, Collagen Protein supplements, and many more advances in commercial wellness products, Dave’s mission is to empower the entire globe with information and knowledge that unlocks the Super Human in everyone at any age. The proof of these advancements are better sleep, energy, and expanded capacity for all.   Highlights: Discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas The power of coffee and nicotine The journey of Bulletproof Coffee Taking control of your biology through biohacking Exploring altered states, from psychedelics to neurofeedback The importance of psychedelic integration The nexus of biohacking and psychedelics Cautions around Ayahuasca and other psychedelics Cultivating the ‘skills’ of forgiveness and gratitude 40 Years of Zen and neurofeedback Dave’s vision for his own longevity and current projects Shifting from victimhood to sovereignty Final thoughts and recommendations   Links: Dave’s website Dave on Instagram: Dave on Facebook: 40 Years of Zen: Danger Coffee:   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience. Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how working with internal parts can lead to self-compassion and coherence. Sunny also shares her experience facilitating Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy retreats with IFS founder Dick Schwartz, and how they help leaders in various industries lead with self-energy. The conversation then delves into the importance of ethics in artificial intelligence and the potential impact of psychedelics on the AI space. Sunny reflects on the lessons she has learned from plant medicine and emphasizes the importance of being in service and awe.   Sunny Strasburg, LMFT: Sunny Strasburg, LMFT plays a multifaceted role in the fields of psychology and psychedelic therapy, encompassing education, consultation, authorship, and licensed psychotherapy. Her notable literary achievement, "The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy: Perspective, Preparation, and Practice," features a foreword by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems model. Through this work, Mrs. Strasburg distills insights drawn from her experiences as an educator, entrepreneur, and psychotherapist. Sunny's professional journey encompasses proficiency in Internal Family Systems and archetypal psychology, alongside certification in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). As a graduate of Pacifica Graduate Institute and the California Institute of Integral Studies, Mrs. Strasburg holds additional certifications in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy and Research, with specialized knowledge and training in Ketamine, MDMA, and Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapies. Sunny is the originator and lead educator of The Theradelic Approach, a model of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Her collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz and other prominent figures has led to impactful trainings and immersive retreats. Converging the domains of Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Jungian psychology, Mrs. Strasburg has formulated innovative principles and methodologies that elevate therapeutic practices and the conscientious use of psychedelics within clinical frameworks. Sunny's expertise finds expression in prominent conferences like The Psychedelic Summit 2023, Psychedelic Science 2023, SXSW 2023, and the 2023 Expanded States of Consciousness Worldwide Summit. Moreover, her contributions extend to engagements with the 2021 EMDRIA Worldwide Virtual Conference, and her involvement spans diverse platforms, including The Theradelic Approach training, Three Cups Psychedelics, Journey Clinical, Inbodied Training, EMDRIA UK, and the Boston Trauma Conference.   Highlights: Introduction and background Exploring IFS, EMDR, the Gottman Method, & the Theradelic Approach Addressing gaps in psychedelic therapy training The importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists Understanding trauma mapping Dosage and frequency in ketamine-assisted therapy Working with internal parts using IFS ketamine-assisted psychotherapy retreats for leaders Psychedelics, AI, and ethics Lessons from plant medicine Being in service and awe Resources and trainings   Links: Sunny’s website:    Sunny’s book, “The Theradelic Approach”: Sunny’s retreats:   Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, host Paul F. Austin is joined by founder & CEO of Blueprint and the "world's most measured human." Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Delve into Bryan's journey from depression to a zest for life, and his extensive approach to longevity and health optimization. Brian shares his approach to longevity and health optimization. He reveals the philosophy behind Blueprint, a system of intelligence that uses scientific evidence and algorithms to manage health and wellness. He explains the concept behind Kernel, a brain mapping technology, and its relationship to psychedelic work. Additionally, Brian offers tips on the daily health practices, highlighting the importance of sleep. This enlightening conversation imagines the future of longevity, exploring the balance of intelligence and compassion—and provides actionable habits for improving health and lifespan. Bryan Johnson: Bryan Johnson is the world's most measured human. Johnson sold his company, Braintree Venmo, to PayPal for $800m in 2013. Through his Project Blueprint, Johnson has achieved metabolic health equal to the top 1.5% of 18 year olds, inflammation 66% lower than the average 10 year old, and reduced his speed of aging by the equivalent of 31 years. Johnson freely shares his protocols and data publicly for everyone to use. Project Blueprint, is an endeavor to achieve humanity and earth scale cooperation starting within Self. In 2023, Johnson launched Rejuvenation Olympics, a leaderboard assessing one's speed of aging using DNA methylation. Of the 1,750 people who have been using this state-of-the-art aging algorithm to track their progress longitudinally, Johnson ranks #1 in speed of age reduction. Johnson is also the founder & CEO of Kernel, creator of the world’s first mainstream non-invasive neuroimaging system; and OS Fund, where he invested $100M in the predictable engineering of atoms, molecules, and organisms into companies now collectively valued over $6B. He is an outdoor adventure enthusiast, pilot, and author of children’s books, Code 7 and The Proto Project.   Highlights: The philosophy behind Blueprint’s longevity work. Bryan’s journey from depression to a thirst for life. Kernel neuroimaging. Mapping the brain on psychedelics. Blueprint and effective, actionable daily practices. Sleep as a priority. Follistatin gene therapy and mesenchymal stem cells. Penis rejuvenation. The Future of Longevity.   Links: Bryan’s website: Bryan on Instagram: Bryan on YouTube: Bryan on LinkedIn: The Myth of Sisyphus: (podcast) Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization - Daniel Stickler, M.D.: (podcast) The Longevity Mindset: A Mind-Body Roadmap to Healthy Aging - Dr. Halland, M.D.:   Episode Sponsors: Neurohacker Collective: Use code THIRDWAVE for an additional 15% off Qualia Senolytic. New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies. From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong." Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization. Phoenix White: Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curating immersive multi-sensory healing experiences. Her ‘Sacred Celestial Ceremony’ was nominated for the Retreat of the Year Award at the 2023 Wonderland Conference. As a visionary and woman of color, Phoenix has triumphed over immense adversity, surviving two brain surgeries and overcoming the challenges of abuse, trauma and homelessness while raising a child as a single mother. Phoenix embodies the true spirit of what it means to rise from the ashes. Her journey has transformed her into a potent healer and a compelling voice in communities worldwide. Phoenix is the founder of The Sacred Celestial, which has catapulted her into becoming a global leader in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy through groundbreaking work in ceremonial psychedelics. She is also the best-selling author of Redefining Strong: A Journey to Finding Yourself, True Healing, and Spiritual Recalibration—a riveting story of self-discovery, sacrifice, and healing. Highlights: The overlooked importance of postpartum mental health. Psychedelics and breastfeeding. Phoenix’s private and group ceremonies with psilocybin. Curating impactful ceremonial psychedelic experiences. Phoenix’s two brain surgeries and her book, “Redefining Strong.” Psychedelic lessons on self-confidence, love, and parenting. On creating community around psychedelics. How to learn more about Phoenix’s retreats and ceremonies.   Episode Sponsors: New Brew’s non-alcoholic kratom and kava seltzers. Use code THIRDWAVE25 for 25% off. Joyous microdose ketamine. Book your free consultation today! The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
In this illuminating episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joe Moore, the CEO of Psychedelics Today. For a full summary and show links, go here: Recorded in-person at the 2023 reMind conference in Las Vegas, this conversation delves into the profound lessons and insights gained from navigating the unique challenges of the psychedelic space. Paul and Joe unpack the often-overlooked necessity of incorporating best business practices into psychedelic companies and explore the critical components of effective psychedelic training or coaching programs. Join Paul and Joe as they break down their respective programs—the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program and Vital Psychedelic Training—and compare the content and approach of each. Together, Paul and Joe share their hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses, discuss the pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space, and ponder the potential future of the psychedelic landscape amidst legal shifts and evolving healthcare models. This conversation provides an insightful and balanced exploration into the heart of the psychedelic renaissance. Joe Moore: Joe Moore co-founded Psychedelics Today in 2016 with his business partner Kyle Buller. As CEO, Joe has created one of the world's best known psychedelic podcasts, blogs and training platforms. Joe combines more than twenty years of avid research and training in psychedelics with twenty years of experience in software and multinational project management. Joe has led countless transpersonal breathwork workshops and is a much sought-after international speaker on the intersecting subjects of psychedelic medicine and healing, breathwork, drug policy, medical innovation, international justice and environmentalism. Highlights: Joe and Paul’s journeys starting businesses early on in the latest psychedelic renaissance. The pros and cons of relying on investments in the psychedelic space. Paul unpacks The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program. Joe shares the origin and evolution of Vital Psychedelic Training. How Vital approaches Scholarships. Joe and Paul’s hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses. Considering decrim, access, legalization, and healthcare models for psychedelics. How to learn more about the programs by Third Wave and Psychedelics Today.   Key Links: Psychedelics Today:    Vital Psychedelic Training:    Psychedelics Today on Instagram:    Vital Psychedelic Training on Instagram:    Episode Sponsors: Joyous microdose ketamine The Coaching Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Ryan Duey, Co-Founder of Plunge, to discuss the nexus of cold exposure & psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Ryan shares his extraordinary journey—from a life-altering motorcycle accident in Thailand to transformative encounters with Ayahuasca in the Amazon. He also discusses the benefits of cold plunging and its role in supporting mental and physical well-being. Ryan highlights the parallels between cold plunging and psychedelics, emphasizing the importance of surrender and breathwork in both practices. He then describes how to get the most out of cold plunging and sauna. The conversation covers Ryan’s life-altering experiences, his surprising growth and success, and his mission to “make resilience mainstream.” Ryan Duey: Ryan Duey was born and raised in Northern California. He attended Cal Poly University where he spent a semester abroad in Barcelona. The experience was so impactful that after graduation, Ryan returned to Spain and spent the next two years living and working in Madrid. After Madrid, Ryan returned to the states and began working in the front office of the San Jose Earthquakes. Soon after, Ryan had what he calls his “greatest gift”: a head-on motorcycle accident in Thailand. This near death experience catapulted Ryan into a journey of self-inquiry, leading him to the jungles of the Amazon, the inside of a float tank, and a commitment to entrepreneurship in the Health and Wellness industry. While building Capitol Floats, Sacramento's Premier Float Center, Ryan traveled to Reboot Float Spa in the Bay Area with the hopes of meeting the owner, Mike Garrett. The two quickly became friends and business confidants, going on to co-found Plunge. Ryan is offering listeners $150 off the purchase of Plunge and Sauna products. Head to and use code THIRDWAVE150.   Highlights: Ryan’s transformative experiences with Ayahuasca. Drawing similarities between float tanks and ayahuasca ceremonies. Ryan’s journey opening float tank centers. The core benefits of cold plunging. Helpful tips for approaching both cold plunging and psychedelics. Cold plunging for psychedelic preparation and integration. Reflecting on the growth of Plunge. Incorporating sauna into a cold plunging routine. Plunge’s exciting products and developments for the future.   Links: Plunge: Plunge on Instagram:   Episode Sponsors: Join Paul F. Austin for Third Wave’s 45-Day Microdosing Challenge, a guided journey into personal growth, creativity, and purpose starting on Jan. 22, 2024. Psyched Wellness - Use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off.
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Halland Chen, a Double Board Certified physician at the forefront of integrative medicine. Recorded live at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, this insightful conversation is a dive into the realm of longevity and optimal living. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dr. Halland shares his transition from traditional to functional medicine, emphasizing the power of psychedelics in promoting mental health for longevity and a growth mindset. Explore the world of NAD+ supplementation and its role in the quest for a longer, healthier life. Delve into the use of psychedelics in pain management and uncover Dr. Halland's personalized medicine program, designed to optimize wellness and longevity through regenerative medicine and biohacking. Paul and Dr. Halland touch on the potential of artificial intelligence in shaping personalized medicine and consider the fascinating realms of peptides and biohacking. Learn about Dr. Halland’s protocols for heavy metal detoxing and his thoughts on the nuanced difference between extending health span and mere lifespan. This conversation unravels the importance of mindset and intuition in pursuing healthy aging, exploring a holistic approach to peak performance, life extension, and overall well-being.   Dr. Halland, M.D.: Dr. Halland Chen, MD is a Double Board Certified physician specializing in ways to help people heal faster and feel better. Dr. Halland has been featured on HBO, Forbes, and Elle and is an expert in longevity, NAD, stem cells, anti-aging and non-surgical options for pain relief and repairing injuries. He is focused on peak performance, life extension and optimizing wellness by reducing inflammation, boosting the immune system and cellular detoxification by using Regenerative Medicine, Biohacking, and natural supplements. He applies his unique techniques and specialized testing for patients to address sports injuries, pain management conditions, longevity optimization and for high performance clients. Dr. Halland attended the University of Miami’s Honors Program in Medicine and graduated with Honors in Research Distinction. He is the author of numerous scientific publications and further specialized in Interventional Pain Management at Albert Einstein College of Medicine's Fellowship program in New York City. He is Double Board Certified in Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation and Pain Medicine. When he’s not tending to patients or taking part in research studies, Dr. Halland can be found at health-focused speaking events or traveling across the globe doing research projects and collaborating with colleagues on modern medicine practices. Highlights: Dr. Halland’s journey from traditional to functional medicine. The relationship between NAD+ supplementation, mitochondrial health, & longevity. Psychedelics’ potential to help foster a growth mindset that promotes longevity. How psychedelics challenge conventional approaches to pain management. Dr. Halland’s personalized medicine program for health optimization and longevity. Considering AI’s role in personalized medicine. Peptides and biohacking. Heavy metal detox protocols. Healthspan vs. lifespan. The importance of mindset and intuition when it comes to healthy aging and living.   Links: Dr. Halland’s website:    Dr. Halland on Instagram:    Dr. Halland on LinkedIn:    Dr. Halland on TikTok:    (podcast) 207. Christian Angermayer - Democratizing Psychedelics: From Ancient Rituals to Modern Medicalization:    (podcast) 195. Precision-Performance Medicine: Longevity, Holistic Health, & Optimization:   Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Magic Mind - Enjoy up to 56% off when applied to a 10-day subscription.
In this episode, Paul F. Austin is joined by Hamilton Morris to explore bufotenin, psilomethoxin, and the nuances of psychedelic journalism. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Recorded live at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation first explores both the science and historical perspective of lesser-mentioned compounds like bufotenine. Hamilton then shares his profound insights drawn from directing the acclaimed Vice TV docuseries Hamilton's Pharmacopeia, as well as his work as a psychedelic chemist. Together, Paul and Hamilton navigate the rich history, chemistry, and cultural impacts of various psychoactive drugs, touching on the wisdom from legends including Alexander Shulgin, Terrence McKenna, and more.   Highlights: The history of psilomethoxin and Hamilton’s own experience with it. The limitations of reductionist approaches to understanding psychedelics. Exploring the well-documented history of bufotenine and its subjective effects. Hamilton’s takeaways from working on Hamilton's Pharmacopeia. Hamilton on maintaining a balanced perspective in psychedelic journalism.   Links: Hamilton’s podcast: Hamilton on Instagram: Hamilton on Twitter:   Episode Sponsors: Magi Ancestral Supplements - Use coupon code TW10. Psyched Wellness - Use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Magic Mind - Use code PSYCHEDELIC20 for 20% off your first purchase, or 56% off a subscription.
Ryan Latreille, Founder of Kanna Extract & Hearthstone Collective, joins Paul F. Austin for a fascinating journey through the world of kanna. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Ryan unravels the secrets of kanna’s alkaloids that lend to its unique effects on mood and energy. From historical cosmologies to modern applications, Ryan and Paul explore the common pairings with kanna, from cannabis to psilocybin. Lastly, Ryan sheds his expertise on sourcing the safest, most effective, and ethical kanna possible. This episode explores the intersection of culture, spirituality, and human transformation through the lens of kanna's potent effects. Ryan Latreille: Ryan Latreille founded Kanna Extract Co., Hearthstone Collective, and Flow Labs. With over a decade of expertise in mushrooms and plant medicines, he’s dedicated to offering solutions that support mental and emotional well-being. From providing premium kanna extracts to designing innovative nutraceutical products, Ryan is helping shape the psychedelic and wellness industries with ethically sourced, high-quality botanicals. Highlights: Ryan’s path with kanna microdosing that led him to create Hearthstone Collective. Zembrin’s research into Kanna’s therapeutic potential.  Microdosing kanna: benefits and risks. Kanna cosmologies: historical uses in the Khoi and San tribes. Why the cultivation and lab testing of kanna is so crucial. Unpacking the subjective effects of Kanna’s alkaloids. Known Kanna combinations: Cannabis, psilocybin, & more.   Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. BiOptimizers - Get 10% off Magnesium Breakthrough Learn more about our flagship 10-month training program for coaches who want to integrate psychedelic modalities into their practice:
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes Will Rezin, mystic, philosopher, and coach, to explore the worlds of psychedelics, somatics, and trauma healing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dive into Will's profound healing path, shaped by ayahuasca in Peru. Together, Will and Paul go beyond the conventional body-mind separation, drawing on key approaches to healing common to both somatics and psychedelics. Their conversation envisions a trauma-free future that extends beyond personal healing to embrace relational, societal, and environmental transformations. Will Rezin: Will Rezin is a mystic and somatic teacher. He is a leading expert in the field of personal development with a focus on trauma education and somatics. Will has a unique approach that combines somatic practices, early developmental movement theory, esoteric philosophy and trauma theory with traditional coaching methods. He's the co-founder of Trauma and Somatics where he trains practitioners to become trauma-informed, and the co-founder of The Truth Foundation where he and his co-founder, David Gonzalez, are on a mission to End Trauma. Over the past 18 years, Will has immersed himself in studying human development through the lens of culture, psychology, biology, physiology, mysticism, myth and behavioral change. He is trained in Somatic Experiencing®, Core Energy Leadership Coaching, Early Developmental Trauma, Karmic Astrology, Jungian Archetypal Psychology, Ericksonian Hypnosis, Amazonian Shamanism and much more. Will integrates many therapeutic models into his work with clients and his teaching with students.   Highlights: Exploring the work of Dr. Peter A. Levine. Will’s psychedelic healing path and ayahuasca experiences in Peru: Beyond the body-mind separation: unpacking somatics. Essence vs. Personality: integrating intuition and wisdom. Modulation and titration: keys to healing in somatics and psychedelics. Will’s mission to eradicate trauma in the world. Envisioning AI’s role in healing trauma. Beyond personal healing: relational, societal, and environmental transformation.   Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Magic Mind - Use code PSYCHEDELIC20 for 20% off your first purchase, or 56% off a subscription.
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes the esteemed Dr. Rosalind Watts, clinical psychologist and founder of ACER Integration, to discuss the power of psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dr. Watts shares about the powerful transformation she witnessed in clinical trial participants for psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy. She also reveals the research and insights that led her to create the global online integration community ACER Integration. Together, Paul and Dr. Watts explore the potential of psychedelics to help restore environmental health and usher new paradigms of growth and healing. Rosalind Watts, Ph.D.: Dr. Rosalind Watts is a clinical psychologist and the founder of ACER Integration. As the former clinical lead on the psilocybin for depression trial at Imperial College London, Dr. Watts led a clinical team that facilitated over a hundred psilocybin treatment sessions. Having recognized that safe and effective use of psychedelics requires substantial integration support, Dr. Watts co-founded the UK's first psychedelic integration group, and is now launching a global online integration community, ‘Accept, Connect, Embody, Restore’ (ACER) where members follow a 12-month process together. Her contributions to the field of psychedelic therapy are numerous and include the development of the ACE model ‘Accept, Connect, Embody’, which has been used in clinical trials of both psilocybin and DMT, as well as the Watts Connectedness Scale, a psychometric tool for measuring outcomes of psychedelic therapy. Dr. Watts sits on the clinical advisory board of the Usona Institute.   Highlights: Dr. Watts’s journey into psychedelic research. Patient transformations in Dr. Watts’s first psilocybin therapy sessions. How psilocybin fosters a deeper connection with self and the world. The challenges of integration in a society that still stigmatizes psychedelics. The importance of finding a community of ‘fellow travelers’. Compelling research on psilocybin and Nature Connectedness. Psychedelics as a medicine to restore environmental health and usher a new planetary paradigm. ACER Integration’s community-based program structure.   Episode Sponsors: Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. BiOptimizers - Get 10% off Magnesium Breakthrough
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes back Jonathan Lu & Shauheen Etminan, founders of VCENNA and the supplement line Ancestral Magi. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Following up from their first episode, the duo unpack the neurobiology of oneirogens (dream-inducing substances). Delve into the dreamlike realms of consciousness as Jonathan and Shauheen explore the unique effects of beta-Carbolines and Syrian Rue, comparing them to classic psychedelics like psilocybin, LSD, Ayahuasca, and Iboga. Uncover the secrets of lucid dreaming and the ancient traditions that inspired them. Visit Ancestral Magi's website to learn more about their legal, psychoactive formulations based on ancient potions. Use code TW10 at checkout for 10% off their unique supplements.   Jonathan Lu: Jonathan Lu is an engineer who has been studying 2000-year-old Chinese texts in search of compounds, formulations, and rituals that have been lost to history. Their team applies modern neurophysiological and computational tools to understand scientifically what our ancestors discovered millennia ago, and from which they developed the nootropic formulations for Magi Ancestral Supplements. Jonathan is a proud father of three daughters and has visited 66 countries. He is a graduate of Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business, and received a B.S. in Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering from Cornell University. Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D. Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D. is an intuitive activator and repeat founder with a passion for creating impactful products and platforms that embody wellness, abundance, authenticity, reciprocity, and inclusion. He has a track record of working in multiple industries including psychedelics for mental wellness and cognitive growth, which are aligned with his life story as a founder and mission as an autotelic entrepreneur. Shauheen holds a MSc and PhD in Chemical Engineering from the University of Calgary. He is a secular mystic who practices Sufi Dervish whirling meditation.   Highlights: Rumi, Sufism, and the traditions of Sufi Whirling. Exploring the unique dreamlike effects of beta-Carbolines and Syrian Rue. Ayahuasca vs. Haoma (speculated to include Syrian Rue). Iboga as an oneirogen. Research into the impacts of beta-Carbolines on memory. Considering the preparation and integration for oneirogens like beta-Carbolines. Lucid dreaming, archetypes, and the sacredness of dreamtime in indigenous traditions. The neurobiology and subjective effects of beta-Carbolines vs. classic psychedelics. Unique potions and stacks featuring beta-Carbolines. VCENNA’s current drug research. Ancestral Magi's website: Learn more about our flagship 10-month training program for coaches who want to integrate psychedelic modalities into their practice:
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Co-host Joseph Anew and Integrative Health Practitioner JoQueta Handy, Ph.D. explore the intersection of autism, gut health, and quantum healing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Dr. Handy and Joseph examine questions like, How does gut health impact people with autism and the greater population? Why is the microbiome so vital–not only to optimal wellness but to microdosing success? What is digital psychedelic dosing, and how can it bypass gut challenges? What are quantum connections, and how can they transform healing? Find out what autism can teach the world about health, connection, and self-discovery. JoQueta Handy, PhD, IMD: Dr. JoQueta Handy, PhD, IMD is an internationally-recognized speaker, author, educator, and Natural Integrative Health Practitioner. She is a coach certified by The Psychedelic Coaching Institute, holds a certified competence in clinical speech-language pathology, and is a certified quantum biofeedback practitioner. JoQueta is also the CEO and Chief Visionary of Brilliant Learning, Handy Wellness Center, and Brilliant Blends. She has spent the last 30 years working with special needs children and their families using a holistic philosophy rooted in nutritional protocols and extending to specialized learning strategies. JoQueta has applied her life and career experiences to take her practice to the next level by founding Brilliant Blends and formulating its supplements. A mom of five grown children and a grandmother, she works with her husband, James Handy, DC in their wellness practice in Newport Beach, CA.   Highlights:  Examining the connection between autism and gut health. Exploring the healing power of quantum biofeedback, shared energy, and digital psychedelic dosing. Why Dr. Handy sees people with Autism as powerful teachers. How Dr. Handy uses frequencies to address patient imbalances and promote healing. Dr. Handy’s psychedelic initiation and the lessons from each medicine. Harnessing psychedelics to break free of generational patterns. Brilliant Blends, Dr. Handy’s adaptogenic mushroom line. Understanding the gut health, serotonin levels, and the psychedelic response. Glyophosate’s global impact on human and planetary health.   Key Links: Handy Wellness Center: Brilliant Blends: 3 Co’s transformational workshops: Psychedelic Coaching Institute:   Episode Sponsors: Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. BiOptimizers - Use code THIRDWAVE for their Black Friday Mega Sale!
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin and Shift Network Founder Stephen Dinan explore spiritual cross-training, psychedelics, and balanced success. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Stephen and Paul explore topics like: How can psychedelics open people’s minds to spiritual dimensions? Can all religions and traditions play a role in elevating collective consciousness? How do ayahuasca’s masculine and feminine lineages contribute to wisdom and healing? And why do we need both spectrums to facilitate cultural progress? Tune in for a diverse conversation on Stephen’s psychedelic path, Shift Network goals, and the power of patience on the path to visionary growth. Stephen Dinan: Stephen Dinan is the founder and CEO of The Shift Network and a member of the Transformational Leadership Council and Evolutionary Leaders. The Shift Network was founded in 2010 and has served over 3M people worldwide, in 170 countries. It delivers virtual summits, courses, and trainings featuring over 250 core faculty and 3,000 thought leaders. The diverse domains include spirituality, sound healing, holistic health, psychology, enlightened business, shamanism, qigong, and psychedelic healing. Stephen graduated from Stanford University (Human Biology) and the California Institute of Integral Studies (East-West Psychology). He helped create and direct the Esalen Institute’s Center for Theory & Research, a think tank for leading scholars, researchers, and teachers to explore human potential. As the former director of membership and marketing at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, he was the driving force behind the Shift in Action program and the One Minute Shift media series. He has been a featured speaker at the World Cultural Forum in China, the Alliance for a New Humanity in Costa Rica, Renovemos Mexico in Mexico City, the University of Cuenca in Ecuador, and many US conferences, events, radio programs, and online summits. Stephen is also the author of Sacred America, Sacred World: Fulfilling Our Mission in Service to All, and Radical Spirit.   Highlights: Stephen’s early plant medicine experiences. Paul and Stephen's spiritual awakening through psychedelics. Ayahuasca lineages and masculine vs. feminine ceremonies. Lessons from Shift Network’s 40-day program featuring 40 spiritual traditions. Stephen’s tips for embarking on Vipassana meditation retreats. Stephen’s challenges and joys running The Shift Network. How Stephen patiently crystalizes visions into action. Elon Musk and masculine vs. feminine leadership. The future of The Shift Network.   Episode Sponsors: Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off. Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Join us at Wonderland Conference in Miami, Nov. 9-11th! Head to and use the code THIRDWAVE20 at checkout to save 20% on your ticket.
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, co-host Joseph Anew and leadership coach Lauren Mugglebee unpack self-actualization through psychedelics and embodied coaching. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Joseph and Lauren examine questions like: What would you do if you had the time and space to think about who you really are? Why are coaches pivotal in your growth? What role does courage play in transformation? And how can microdosing, embodiment, and community support the process? Tune in for a talk about sailing away from life’s safe harbors and flowing into the authentic unknown. Lauren Mugglebee: Lauren Mugglebee is an executive and leadership coach, and a transformational practitioner and facilitator. In addition to her private practice, Lauren is a Third Wave Psychedelic Coaching Institute faculty member. Lauren uses a variety of somatic and integral modalities in her practice—including pairing inquiry and non-ordinary states of consciousness—to help leaders achieve radical self-awareness and presence. A US native and British citizen, she lives with her partner and young daughters in Northern California, where she teaches and designs bespoke intensives, training, and retreats for engaging emergence. Before coaching, Lauren spent two decades developing technical products and leading global teams for Facebook, Instagram, OpenTable, and Ticketmaster. Highlights: Lauren’s evolution from tech to transformational and leadership coaching. How psychedelics helped Lauren align her life and career. How embodied intuition can be a powerful decision-making tool. Cultivating the courage to “leave safe harbor.” Lauren’s advice for transitioning into a more fulfilling career. Lauren’s transformation coaching process and core clients. Lessons from Lauren’s participation in Third Wave’s Coaching Certification Program (CCP). CCP’s evolution toward executive and high-performance coaching. Key Links: Lauren’s private practice:  Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute (PCI):   Episode Sponsors: BiOptimizers - Use code THIRDWAVE for their Black Friday Mega Sale! Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit and use coupon code TW10. Join us at Wonderland Conference in Miami, Nov. 9-11th! Head to and use the code THIRDWAVE20 at checkout to save 20% on your ticket.
Paul F. Austin reunites with neuroscientist Dr. Dave Rabin to delve into the latest research on Apollo Neuro's "wearable microdose" device for optimal sleep and focus. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: Paul and Dr. Dave explore questions like, What role does stress play in psychological and physiological well-being? Why do humans need to feel safe to perform at their best? Does clinical data show Apollo Neuro can truly calm the nervous system? Could the wearable’s soothing vibrations also help people navigate challenging psychedelic journeys? Tune into for the latest on Apollo Neuro’s wearable hug technology and its AI features for deeply personalized health. Dave M. Rabin, MD, PhD: Dr. David Rabin, MD, PhD, is a neuroscientist, board-certified psychiatrist, health-tech entrepreneur, & inventor who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for more than a decade. He is the Co-founder & Chief Innovation Officer at Apollo Neuroscience, which has developed the first scientifically validated wearable technology that actively improves energy, focus, & relaxation, using a novel touch therapy that signals safety to the brain. Dr. Dave has always been fascinated by consciousness and our inherent ability to heal from injury and illness. As such, his research focuses on the clinical translation of non-invasive therapies for patients with treatment-resistant illnesses like PTSD and substance-use disorders. Dr. Rabin is also the co-founder and executive director of the Board of Medicine, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization of physicians and scientists establishing the first peer-reviewed, evidence-based clinical guidelines for the production and safe use of unregulated alternative medicines, including plant medicines. In addition to his clinical psychiatry practice, Dr. Dave is currently conducting research on the epigenetic regulation of trauma responses and recovery to elucidate the mechanism of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy and the neurobiology of belief. Dr. Rabin received his MD in medicine and PhD in neuroscience from Albany Medical College and specialized in psychiatry with a distinction in research at Western Psychiatric Institute & Clinic at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. He has been married to his co-founder, Kathryn Fantauzzi, since 2016. Highlights: Apollo Neuro’s origin story and evolution. Clinical data showing heart rate variability (HRV) & cognitive improvement with Apollo Neuro. Longitudinal research on the Apollo’s benefits. Sleep’s foundational impact on people with depression and PTSD. The best ways to utilize Apollo to induce calming states. Apollo’s new AI features to reset circadian rhythms. Exploring the different Apollo Vibes and their uses. The relationship between neuroplasticity and the Apollo wearable. Why clinicians & practitioners use the Apollo in their practices. Dr. Dave’s “toolkit” for self-exploration. Dr. Dave’s favorite therapeutic tool for brain training. Key Links: Get the Apollo wearable device for 15% OFF:    Dr. Dave’s website: Join us at Wonderland Conference in Miami, Nov. 9-11th! Head to and use the code THIRDWAVE20 at checkout to save 20% on your ticket.
In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, co-host Joseph Anew speaks with entrepreneur and Phoenix Project founder Dr. Melissa Barker about transcending trauma with psychedelics. Joseph and Dr. Barker explore questions like, Why do traditional therapies fall short of repairing deep wounds? What can psychedelics do for trauma that other modalities can’t? How can survivors choose between ketamine, MDMA, psilocybin, and other psychedelic medicines? And what role do microdosing and community play in long-term healing? This conversation unveils the trauma-healing trajectory as survivors overcome suffering, embrace their whole selves, and emerge as autonomous leaders. Dr. Melissa Barker, Ed.D.: Dr. Melissa Barker, EdD is an entrepreneur, activist, and emerging voice in the growing psychedelics movement. She is also the founder of The Phoenix Project, a community-led mental health tech platform created by trauma survivors for trauma survivors. Dr. Barker’s personal journey healing from sexual violence led her to psychedelics, including ketamine, MDMA/MDA, psilocybin, and LSD. She’s currently utilizing her experiences to build Phoenix, the first AI companion designed specifically for trauma recovery and psychedelic integration. Highlights: Dr. Barker’s personal trauma history and its impact on her mental health. How psychedelics accelerated Dr. Barker’s healing journey. Dr. Barker’s transformative experiences with ketamine, psilocybin, MDMA, and MDA. Integrating powerful psychedelic experiences into daily life. Addressing issues of psychedelic access, safety, and reciprocity. Exploring The Phoenix Project & the importance of community healing. Dr. Barker’s seven stages of trauma recovery. How The Phoenix Project got its name, and what’s to come in version 2.0. Kundalini yoga’s role in Dr. Barker’s and Joseph’s healing journeys. Dr. Barker’s message of hope to trauma survivors. How to connect with Dr. Barker. Key Links: The Phoenix Project:     The Phoenix Project on Instagram:    Dr. Barker on Instagram: Episode Sponsors: BiOptimizers - Get 10% off Magnesium Breakthrough Psyched Wellness - use code THIRDWAVE23 to get 15% off. Magi Ancestral Supplements - Visit and use coupon code TW10.
Comments (14)

Alexis Rock

Wow, your mother(Lily) sounds sooo much like me!

Sep 15th

Alexis Rock


Mar 30th

Matthew Poole

Great podcast. Appreciated the insight into the History of Japanese Drug culture. The inclusion of Spirit intelligence within the definition of Alien intelligence is very interesting. Andrew is a very insightful guy with a unique perspective on life, psychedelics and Intelligence.

May 3rd

Chris Winn

fucking brilliant

Mar 22nd

Атанас Байчев

And people are still dogmatized about psychedelics been "bad"? Everything you don't have knowledge of is bad! But with the right knowledge, you can use psychedelics to improve your life 10 times! Thank you Third Wave for your efforts to share the RIGHT knowledge with the masses!

Jan 20th


Good podcast until the guest started shitting out her cliches on feminist victimhood.

Jul 6th

Dan Osterman

Hey, great conversation. I'm really interested in holotropic breathwork. I'm reading Stan's book currently. Thanks for sharing more insight.

Feb 23rd

Darude Sandstorm

I usually don’t comment negative statements, but the audio quality is awful. I’m having to end this episode at the 27 minute mark despite being interested in the interview. Disappointing.

Jan 6th

Jessica Desmoineaux

Yes! the ones on top want to remain on top and we dont need any of it. its harming us as a species #thevenusproject

Aug 24th

Melissa Paquette

One of my favorite talks. Twice now I've listened to this podcast and got just as much as the first time I heard it. Definetly feel coming back to this one is a great reminder on how to integrate the information received during my journeys.

Jul 14th

Melissa Paquette

Great talk. Thank you. Hope to see you in November :)

Jul 6th

Bruno Linus Lejdfelt

when a feminist start talking about there being no difference between men and women: I need to use the restroom, which one was it again? (right door: bla, left door: bla bla bla bla bla)

Jun 25th

Capt. Steph

love this episode

Apr 23rd

Capt. Steph

thank you!!!

Mar 7th
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