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Author: Skylor Holm, Brady Hiney, Max Shagaev, Zach Wise, Daniel Rennie

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The Pursuit is an unfiltered, unedited, weekly conversation between 5 business owners who share their thoughts on business, mindset, and more.
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In this episode, we discuss focusing intently on your tasks, and how it benefits not only what you are doing, but the autonomy and responsibility of those in your business. We discuss talking to your future self, and how it helps open your eyes into the decisions you make today and the impacts they have. We end on a discussion of your path, and how to continue going in the right direction without getting caught up in the minute details.
Ep 96 | Culture That Sticks

Ep 96 | Culture That Sticks

2025-09-2201:13:37

In this episode, we dug into what it really takes to get your team to buy into your vision and actually be excited to show up every day. We compared business to sports teams and how athletes are always training toward a clear goal, and how that same mindset applies in business when everyone knows the mission and their role in it. We talked about how culture isn’t built by accident; it’s built through passion, communication, and creating experiences your team actually wants to be a part of. From team events and recognition to just showing genuine excitement for what you’re building, we explored how to create a workplace that people don’t just work at, but truly want to stay in.
In this episode, Zach & Skylor dive into reflections from the year of business ownership, and what they learned along the way. They discuss the highs, lows, anxiety, depression, excitement, and many other emotions that you feel while running a business. They come to the realization that maybe that's the whole point, and maybe that is the beauty of it all. They also talk about engaging with your team, and how giving them a reputation to live up to is a powerful tool to learn more about them, and give them a larger role of what you do on a daily basis. 
In this episode, we discuss Zach's anxiety surrounding makind difficult business decisions, and how it links to a fear of being disliked. We also dive into a recent discovery of Brady's, that more work does not equal more result. Living a more balanced, sustainable lifestyle allows you to be more intentional with the things that you do, and get more enjoyment out of your daily activities.
Ep 93 | Slow Cooking

Ep 93 | Slow Cooking

2025-08-1101:22:15

In this episode, we discuss the idea of laying put the foundations of your business before scaling, and how focusing on the client experience can help scale. Going faster is not always better long term.
Ep 92 | 5 Years of Lessons

Ep 92 | 5 Years of Lessons

2025-06-2701:42:44

In this episode, Brady shares current growing pains around scheduling inefficiencies, quality control, and crew training—and how they're beginning to tackle them by delegating tasks and implementing better systems. We explore topics like payment collection, painter accountability, equipment logistics, and the balance between specialization and flexibility in crews. Daniel also shares business lessons he's gathered over the last five years, sparking deeper discussion about passion, discipline, and sustainable success.
Ep 91 | The Authentic Self

Ep 91 | The Authentic Self

2025-05-0501:15:20

In this episode, we discuss the idea of being your authentic self. Do you speak up when you disagree? Are you being the best version of yourself for those around you? How would your life change if you started to behave this way?
In this Episode, Jordan Kipnes joins us to discuss sales, and the first call process. We discuss the importance of decision making, and how to help clients understand why it is important for them. We then talk about objections, how do you handle clients wanting a lower priced service?
*SWP OPERATORS, CHECK WITH YOUR DM BEFORE IMPLEMENTING ANY OF THESE IDEAS. THESE ARE OUR EXPERIENCES, NOT ADVICE.*In this episode, we discuss how to convert pending estimates by setting them up properly, and the importance of long term thinking with quotes.
Ep 88 | Suffering

Ep 88 | Suffering

2025-03-1001:46:57

In this episode, we discuss the difference between actual and chosen suffering. How does this impact your life and expectation of outcomes? We then talk about the idea of a why, and how that fits into your life. Brady shares his thoughts on How vs What, and the impacts it has on actions. We chat about qualifying clients, and understanding truly what a person needs, in order to best help them buy, opposed to trying to force sales within our businesses. Links to resources mentioned in the episode:Overlax Apparel Clothing
In this episode, Zach gives a brief solo look into the last 2 months of business. He dives into complacency, and making yourself a victim of your circumstance. He then outlines conversations he has had, and how those impacted his choices moving forward.
Ep 86 | The Rubber Ducky

Ep 86 | The Rubber Ducky

2025-02-2401:55:14

In this episode we explored marketing challenges, personal growth, and effective communication. Zach is navigating low lead generation in a new market, leading to a discussion on strategies to improve results. Brady recognized he had been settling for mediocrity and is now actively seeking growth. The conversation covered pain vs. strength as motivators for change, the power of self-awareness, and the impact of authentic communication in sales and relationships. The group also discussed The Expectation Effect and committed to a strategy focused on maximizing client impact. Plus, a lighthearted moment with Zach’s supposed resemblance to Chris Williamson will be shared soon.
In this episode, we discuss Max's experience with skydiving and his perspective on chasing the feeling again. We then touch on The idea of purpose, and the vices that we can fall towards. Lastly, we end the conversation discussing communication, asking questions and how to have meaningful conversations. Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Overlax Apparel Clothing Art of Happiness Book 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Book Atomic Habits Book Man's search for Meaning Book Tim Ferriss Podcast Episode
In this episode, the group dives into key business and leadership topics. Skylor shares a productivity tip that’s been a game-changer for him, working at a cafe instead of his home office for fewer distractions. He also breaks down his detailed marketing plan, including door-to-door flyers, cold calling, and a new app to manage his team. The group chats about how the current economy is making cold calling tougher and brainstorms ways to improve results, like focusing on exterior jobs in newer neighborhoods. Zach talks about delegating more responsibility to Jayden, his marketing manager, and gets feedback on finding the right balance between oversight and empowerment. Brady wraps it up with some great insights from a recent Landmark training, like the importance of group thinking, straight talk, and managing emotions. They close by talking about how to better connect with their teams and align everyone with the company’s vision. Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Overlax Apparel Clothing Beyond The Hammer BookWilling To Fail Book
Ep 83 | Systems That Scale

Ep 83 | Systems That Scale

2024-12-3001:50:19

In this episode of the Pursuit Podcast, we dive into work-life balance and the challenges of setting boundaries as business owners. Zach opens up about feeling guilty when he’s not “on” all the time and his desire to delegate more so he can focus on higher-level tasks. The group shares tips for creating and communicating boundaries, like using automated voicemails and setting clear work-hour policies for clients and teams. From there, we shift into improving business systems. Brady and Daniel share how they’ve streamlined processes like managing client info, scheduling jobs, and keeping marketing materials stocked. The group highlights the importance of constantly reviewing and refining systems as your business grows and making sure your team understands why those systems exist. Things take an unexpected but fun turn when we dive into a philosophical chat about determinism vs. free will. The group explores both sides of the argument and agrees that most people probably sit somewhere in the middle, acknowledging that both perspectives play a role in life. We wrap up by recapping the key takeaways: setting better work-life boundaries, improving systems, and having meaningful conversations to expand your perspective. Links to resources mentioned in the episode: Overlax Apparel Clothing Built to Last Book Scaling Up Book Ultimate Selling Machine Book Shine Book E-Myth Contractor Book
In this episode of the Pursuit Podcast, we talk about the power of community and connection, and how having a tight-knit group across different regions keeps us motivated and accountable. Ehren shares his story about how his Franchisee inspired him early on and completely changed his mindset around work and life. He talks about leading his team with a focus on positivity, growth, and creating a strong sense of purpose. We also dive into building high performing teams,and how hiring for attitude over technical skills and fostering a sense of brotherhood can make all the difference. Later, we dig into the importance of embracing failure, chasing big goals, and leaning into the idea that “in great attempts, even failure is glorious.” We wrap things up with some gratitude, closing thoughts, and plans to reconnect soon to talk more about systems, processes, and prepping for the next season.
In this episode, we dive into a mix of topics. Daniel kicks things off with a look at how love languages and toxic traits intertwine, sparking a conversation about self-awareness and building healthier relationships. Max shares why journaling through both good and bad times can be a game changer for understanding what drives success. The group also has a chat with Daniel about his fear of setting big goals for his business, unpacking the fear of failure and exploring actionable ways to move forward confidently. They wrap up by planning a deep dive into Brady’s business systems, and what’s to come. Links to Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Overlax Apparel Clothing Love Language Article Mentioned by Daniel Love Languages Book Shine Book E-Myth Contractor Book
In this episode, Zach & Daniel discuss time travel. Would you go back in time if it meant losing everything you have now? Zach asks Daniel about budgeting within his business & personal life. We wrap up with a conversation surrounding goal setting within Daniels life & business, and the possibility that he is placing limitations on himself.
In this episode, Brady, Skylor, and Daniel chat about the idea of long term thinking. Brady introduces "Shine" by Gino Wickman, which he’s been reading, and shares his take on the power of 10-year thinking. They also discuss how to support partners' ambitions, communicate better, and grow together, with a conversation on love languages.
In this episode, we dive into Daniel’s recovery journey and his efforts to rebuild his business, focusing on pre-booking work and improving team efficiency. We cover the importance of self-awareness, managing expectations, and avoiding the “stories” we sometimes tell ourselves to justify keeping things as they are, like holding onto underperforming employees. We wrap up with balancing goal-setting with flexibility and finding happiness without ignoring room for growth. Brady also shares insights from his Landmark program about letting go of assumptions, and staying self-aware in business.
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