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RUNEGADE | Real Talk on Running, Endurance, and the Human Grind

Life is hard. Run. This Podcast Helps.

We believe running is about more than just miles and times - it’s about the process to become better.

Mark (newbie runner who started in 2023 to fight the dad bod) and Todd (amateur runner since 2016, turned a brutal 5-hour marathon into a 3:47 PR) have real conversations with coaches, athletes, everyday runners, underdogs, elites, and adventurers.

Each episode explores:
• Honest running journeys and transformations
• Marathon, half marathon & ultramarathon training
• Trail and road running & endurance mindset
• Motivation, consistency, injury recovery & nutrition
• When to follow the rules… and when to trust your gut

No grifting. No perfect runners. Just real stories, practical advice, and the courage to keep showing up.

Defy the rules. Chase big goals, you belong here.

In a world of runners, be a RUNEGADE.

Mark & Todd
Ordinary runners. Extraordinary conversations.
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"Running is just something that brings us all, it’s a shared, it’s something that’s shared between all humans. And that’s a beautiful thing" - Dean KarnazesListen to Dean's first appearance on Episode 26Step back with us to 2006 (20 years ago this month)Social media didn’t exist. Ultrarunning was still a fringe obsession. And running one marathon was, for most people, the absolute edge of human endurance.This episode is sponsored by Thrive Protein | Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order.Comment your biggest takeaway from this conversation for a chance to win a special RUNEGADE prizeJust a few years earlier, on his 30th birthday, celebrating with friends, Dean Karnazes spontaneously left a San Fransisco bar and ran 30 miles through the night to Half Moon Bay - an experience that changed everything. Soon after, he quit his corporate job to fully chase his obsession with human potential. Into that world he stepped with a challenge that sounded impossible: 50 marathons in 50 days, in 50 different states.No one had done it. Many believed it couldn’t be done. But over 50 straight days, from Missouri to New York City, Dean ran 1,310 miles, turned skepticism into awe, and helped spark the modern endurance movement.For longtime runners, this is a return to the moment the legend was born. For everyone discovering Dean for the first time - welcome. You’re about to meet one of the most inspiring figures in running: a man fuelled by relentless curiosity, unbreakable discipline, and a deep belief in what’s possible when you simply refuse to stop.We time travel and go back to 2006 to experience the energy, the doubt, and the magic of the Endurance 50 - straight from Dean himself.In this episode:What the running world felt like in 2006Dean’s place as one of the first true endurance iconsThe story behind 50 marathons in 50 days across 50 statesWhy the feat felt almost impossible at the timeWhat motivated him to keep going when most people would have quitHow his story helped bring long-distance running into the mainstreamWhy new runners today still find inspiration in his journeyThe enduring power of grit, curiosity, and belief in the impossibleConnect and Find More Dean Here:Instagram: @ultramarathonFacebookDean's WebsiteUltramarathon Man: Confessions of an All Night Runner50 Marathons 50 Days⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - friends of the podcast offering great savings to RUNEGADE listeners.Connect with Todd and Mark:​Email: [email protected]​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on YouTube: ⁠@TheRUNEGADEPodcastTM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Path Projects⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | our favourite running gear and apparel. Look great and perform to your potential by gearing up with Path Projects. Elite running gear and apparel, by runners, for runners. Hats, T-shirts, base liners, hoodies, shorts, jackets ... everything performs. Use code TRP10 for 10% off (limited time, first time order)
“What I love about running and what I love about the running and particularly the trail running community is how inclusive it is, or at least it can be. You can be a runner and not ever do an ultra in your life, and that doesn’t make you a lesser person or a lesser runner.” - Jacob PuzeyThe Power of Community, Resilience, and Passion in Trail Running - with Jacob PuzeyThis episode is sponsored by Thrive Protein | Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order.Comment your biggest takeaway from this conversation for a chance to win a special RUNEGADE prizeEver wonder what it takes to be an elite trail runner, race director and community builder all at once? Join us as we explore Jacob Puzey’s inspiring journey from humble beginnings in rural America to setting world records on a treadmill, inspiring thousands through Five Peaks races, and his unwavering love for nature and community. This episode is a testament to the idea that running is about people, passion, and purpose- no podium required.In this episode:Jacob's early love for running and coming from a big, supportive familyHow a childhood in rural America shaped his connection to nature and runningThe story behind setting a 50-mile treadmill record in 2016Building the Five Peaks trail series as a celebration of nature, family, and communityThe importance of inclusivity and accessibility in trail running for all ages and abilitiesThe mental, physical, and emotional benefits of trail running beyond competitionInsights into maintaining a balanced, sustainable approach to racing and lifeThe role of mentorship, perseverance, and mindset in transforming challenges into growthHow community connects us across diverse backgrounds and beliefsJacob’s thoughts on the future, race ambitions, and staying true to the love of the runConnect with Jacob:Instagram: @jacobpuzeyFive Peaks SeriesRemember, the trail isn’t just a place to run, it’s a space to grow, connect, and inspire. Cheers to the everyday act of showing up on the trails, in life, and in community - and we're happy you're a RUNEGADE.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - friends of the podcast offering great savings to RUNEGADE listeners.Connect with Todd and Mark:​Email: [email protected]​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Path Projects⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | our favourite running gear and apparel. Look great and perform to your potential by gearing up with Path Projects. Elite running gear and apparel, by runners, for runners. Hats, T-shirts, base liners, hoodies, shorts, jackets ... everything performs. Use code TRP10 for 10% off (limited time)
The Long Run: And The Decade the Marathon Became Cool.Ever wonder how a sport that once seemed on the fringes transformed into a global phenomenon? Or how icons like Steve Prefontaine, Frank Shorter, Joan Benoit, Grete Waitz, and Bill Rodgers, influenced not just running, but the culture and identity of a generation?This episode is sponsored by Thrive Protein | Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order.In this episode, we dive into Martin Dugard, New York Times best-selling author's new book, The Long Run, which reveals the untold stories and powerful moments that made running what it is today - a testament to human potential, rebellion, and perseverance.In this episode:The legendary counterculture of Prefontaine and his role in shaping the identity of runnersHow the 1970s initiated the running boom and its evolution across decadesThe influence of iconic figures like Joan Benoit, Greta Weitz, Frank Shorter, and Bill RogersThe shift from solo, rebellious runs to a collective global movement - fueled by technology, pop culture, and social changeSurprising myths about marathon history and the quirky origins of the 26.2-mile standardThe role of women in the rise of running and why their participation was historically underestimatedWhether you're a seasoned marathoner or just lacing up your first pair of kicks, The Long Run reminds us that running is much more than a sport - it's a mirror of life itself. It’s about showing up, pushing limits, and becoming a little better with each step. So keep moving forward, embrace the long run, and remember - in a world of runners, it's cool to be a RUNEGADE.Find more Martin here:Martin on Instagram: @authormartindugardMartin's Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - friends of the podcast offering great savings to RUNEGADE listeners.Connect with Todd and Mark:​Email: [email protected]​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Path Projects⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | our favourite running gear and apparel. Look great and perform to your potential by gearing up with Path Projects. Elite running gear and apparel, by runners, for runners. Hats, T-shirts, base liners, hoodies, shorts, jackets ... everything performs. Use code TRP10 for 10% off (limited time)
"The scariest thing is making the decision to jump into it. Once you've signed up, your goal is just to get ready. It's always possible to get ready, but it's just so scary to make the decision." - Wes PlateThis episode is sponsored by Thrive Protein | Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order.Discover how Wes Plate transformed his life through running incredible 200 and 240-mile ultra marathons, turning obsession into resilience. This episode isn’t just about endurance; it’s about breaking mental barriers, forging deep connections with places, and inspiring ordinary people to realize their extraordinary potential. If you’re thinking about upping your game or just looking for a story that proves we’re all capable of far more than we believe, this is your GPS.In this episode:Wes's inspiring journey from alcohol addiction to ultra marathonerThe mental shift: ultra distances as metaphors for life and resilienceHow running teaches us about suffering, decision-making, and persistencePractical insights on training smarter, not harder, with coaching and intentional practicesThe power of community, gratitude, and connection in ultra runningBehind-the-scenes on training, gear, and filming epic race documentariesThe courage needed to sign up for big challenges like 200-milersThe upcoming adventures: Vol State 500K, Copper Kings, and beyondFind more Wes and Resources here:Wes Plate’s YouTube ChannelMid Pack Elite InstagramWes Plate's WebsiteRemember, tackling the extremes of ultra distances isn't about being superhuman - it’s about making a decision, taking small consistent steps, and refusing to give up when it gets tough. Wes teaches us that we can all much more than we believe possible.In a world of runners, be a RUNEGADE.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - friends of the podcast offering great savings to RUNEGADE listeners.Connect with Todd, Mark and Harvey:​Email: [email protected]​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Harvey on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altra_harvey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Path Projects⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | our favourite running gear and apparel. Look great and perform to your potential by gearing up with Path Projects. Elite running gear and apparel, by runners, for runners. Hats, T-shirts, base liners, hoodies, shorts, jackets ... everything performs. Use code TRP10 for 10% off (limited time)
“Foot health is the new sleep. Nobody pays attention to foot health but everything we do when we’re active depends on our contact with the ground.” - Mark SissonThis episode is sponsored by Thrive Protein | Canadian made supplements, nutrition, and hydration to fuel all your adventures. Check them out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thrive Protein⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and use the code RUNEGADE to save 20% off your order.Mark and Kyle Sisson dive deep into the overlooked importance of foot health, the pitfalls of modern footwear, and how minimalism can transform both your athletic performance and longevity. It’s a conversation that might just make you rethink how - and what - you wear on your feet every day.In this episode, we cover:The critical role of sensory input from the feet in maintaining balance, posture, and reducing injuryHow thick, cushioned shoes have contributed to foot muscle atrophy and increased injury ratesThe science behind the kinetic chain and why your feet are the foundation of overall healthMark’s personal story of injury caused by traditional running shoes and his evolution towards barefoot-inspired footwearKyle’s journey from sports-shoe geek to founder of Peluva, a brand dedicated to foot healthThe physics of walking, running, and even golf in minimalist footwear and why it makes a differenceHow shoe design influences posture, circulation, and long-term foot healthThe innovative features of Peluva shoes that promote toe splay, independence, and circulationPractical tips for strengthening your feet with minimal footwear and the transformative effects seen in days and weeksConnect with Peluva, Mark and Kyle:Get Peluva Here and SaveMark Sisson on Instagram: @marksissonprimalPeluva on Instagram: @wearpeluvaMark's New Book: Born to WalkMark on X: @Mark_SissonRemember, foot health is the foundation of most mobility issues and a key piece of the longevity puzzle. Instead of hiding your feet in restrictive shoes, consider the power of minimalist footwear and conscious movement. After all, the way your feet feel today could determine your vitality tomorrow.We thank Mark and Kyle for being RUNEGADEs.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Save $$$ with RUNEGADE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - friends of the podcast offering great savings to RUNEGADE listeners.Connect with Todd, Mark and Harvey:​Email: [email protected]​Todd on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altramarathonman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Mark on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@runclemark⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​Harvey on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@altra_harvey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠​⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RUNEGADE on Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Path Projects⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | our favourite running gear and apparel. Look great and perform to your potential by gearing up with Path Projects. Elite running gear and apparel, by runners, for runners. Hats, T-shirts, base liners, hoodies, shorts, jackets ... everything performs. Use code TRP10 for 10% off (limited time)
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