The Reader and the Writer

Welcome back to Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea! In this episode, Rhea and Shari discuss the levels of conflict continuing to thicken and boil over toward climax. They talk about Shari’s essay from last week on Verne’s use of scientific language and the affect it has on both their reading experience and ultimate understanding of the story’s meaning. They take close notice of those moments of extreme splendor that are also lead to extreme horror. They talk about storytelling and Verne’s wink to the storyteller’s use of the fragment of reality to create a fantastical but still viable fictional world. They agree with Ned Land that there are some things too beautiful, too fantastic… beyond what our eyes are meant to see.For our paying subscribers, the outline for Episode 6 will come out later this week.Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this episode ❤️ it and share it with other splendid friends like you!The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to our first episode in R&W’s Harry Potter series! In this episode, Shari and Rhea discuss Book One: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone. They talk about story status quo, inciting incidents, and how the characters move on from there. They talk about the narrator, trustworthiness, and what is revealed by our narrator’s sorta-omniscient, reporter-like style. They look at the multiple layers of the story’s meaning, hidden in plain sight. They discuss genre: fairy tales, gothic romance, mysteries, and orphan tales. They wonder about the over-the-top Dursleys and characters that are caricatures. They talk about the Sorting Hat (which House are you in?), our reasoning v. what the hat sees, wands that choose the wizard, scars that can come in useful, centaurs that know much more than they’re saying—both mysterious and aloof to humans, but unwilling to see one perish, too. They discuss chess and sacrifice, two-faced professors, doppelgängers, connections to the Great Story, and how Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone is very much a story that is setting the stage; situating us in this magnificent wizarding world.If you are a paying subscriber, you will find both Rhea’s excellent chapter by chapter notes, and the show outline (broken down by the four medieval ways into meaning, with definitions, references, quotes, and links) underneath “Additional Resources” on R&W’s Harry Potter page. We have kept them as two separate documents. We hope you find them both helpful as you dive deep into Harry Potter by yourself or in conversation others.Time to start reading Book Two: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets! Expect the next Harry Potter episode to air November 6th.Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this episode show it some ❤️ and share it with other muggles and any wizards you might know, too!The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, by Jules’ Verne. In this episode, Rhea and Shari discuss the conflicting visions the story is continuing to present as we travel with Nemo and his captors. They talk about the ways this “enigmatic Nemo” is beginning more and more to rhyme with the “complicated Odysseus” (a liberator in the inverse? Hmmm… something to consider). They touch on the continuing conversation this story seems to be having about freedom v. knowledge, and wonder about how the story of the mythical Atlantis might be a way we can consider the meaning of the story Verne is trying to tell. And, they confess all the ways they are done with Verne’s excessive use of scientific language. Is it truly essential to the full telling of this story? Is it creating a more cohesive tale? Or fraying it at the edges? Only time, and more thousands of leagues under the sea will tell! For our paid subscribers: the outline for Episode 5 will drop later this week.For all our readers, let us know what you think about Nemo! Is he a great liberator? Or great hypocrite??Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this episode, ❤️ it and share it with some enigmatic friends you know.The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne. In this episode Rhea and Shari have an extensive conversation about the developing, centering conflict framing the narrative; the conflict underneath it; and whether or not these two conflicts can be separate from one another. They discuss the several significant biblical allusions in this section and wonder how these might be informing the ultimate meaning of the story. They admit their late realization as to what “twenty thousand leagues” is actually referring. And, after meandering around in conversation of to seemingly disparate concerns, they land upon a question that might be at the center of what this story is ultimately saying.For paying members, look for the outline to come out later this week.Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked what you heard, show it some ❤️ and share it with fellow scientific romance loving friends like you!The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome back to Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne. In this episode, Rhea and Shari continue to scratch their heads over Nemo. Who is this ever-mysterious figure?? They They discuss the narrative and wonder over the central conflict. Where is the story boiling? Who is the main character? is there a central conflict? Or simply a central question? They discuss character counterpoints, and revisit the question of freedom. They talk about isolation and the motif of time passing, and consider how these might be helping to express a deeper meaning. They talk about Twenty Thousand Leagues and the Great Conversation, especially the Great Story. Finally, they end this week’s discussion with a poetry reading: two poems they each thought of separately while reading this week’s section.For paid subscribers, look for this week’s show outline to come out later this week.Be sure to look through Rhea’s Reading Guide, especially the interactive map Rhea added that follows the Nautilus’s travels through the Pacific.Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked what you heard, show it some ❤️ and pass it to some enigmatic folks you know.The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe