The Rest Is Money

<p>Robert Peston and Steph McGovern follow the money to bring you insightful stories from the world of business and finance. </p><p>Who’s making money and who’s spending it? Who’s investing, and who’s innovating? How will AI affect the way we work and why are Saudi Arabia buying up sport? How can the UK economy recover its productivity and adapt for the future?</p><p>Steph and Robert tap their extensive business contacts to answer these questions and decode the jargon to help make sense of the financial world.</p>

122. Google At A Crossroads

Google is making huge bets on artificial intelligence and quantum computing. It is reinventing how millions of us work and live. But in the process is it also eating its own lunch, destroying the search business that turned it into one of the world’s most valuable companies? Steph and Robert put all this and more to Matt Brittin, Google’s most powerful European executive, as he prepares to step down and quit Google after 17 years. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-19
48:37

121. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 2

Robert and Steph talk to Sir Bill Browder about making billions after the fall of the Soviet Union, only to end up with a target from Putin on his back. This is a story of murder and corruption leading him into his life’s work persuading governments to hit human rights abusers where it hurts. The threat of Putin’s revenge is ever present and Bill’s stories include the time he was bundled into a car by Spanish police fearing for his life. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-16
27:47

120. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 1

Steph and Robert are joined by Sir Bill Browder, political activist and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia, to discuss how using Russia’s frozen assets against them could help Kiev win the war, why Putin won’t take a Trump peace deal and why the toppling of the Assad regime may only prolong the war in Ukraine. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-12
38:47

119. Can Labour’s spending review really mend public services?

Robert and Steph speak to Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, about whether Labour can fix our creaking public services in next years spending review, if it’s realistic that Wes Streeting will ‘reform’ the NHS and why vital data on the UK jobs market is so poor. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-09
42:56

118. Global Mayhem: Is The UK A Safe Bet?

Steph and Robert discuss what the collapse of the French government and other unfolding global crises mean for the UK, why Keir Starmer does need to choose between the EU and the US and how businesses are using Labour veterans to lobby the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-05
33:32

117. How Much Did Brexit Cost The UK?

Robert and Steph answer your questions including why Rachel Reeves chose to raise national insurance on businesses instead of simply putting up corporation tax and how much harm leaving the single market has cost Britain since 2016. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12-02
30:36

116. Are We Sacrificing Growth For Worker's Rights?

General Secretary of the Trade Union Congress, Paul Nowak joins Steph and Robert to discuss whether the new Employment Rights Bill, the reforms to ‘Get Britain Working’ and the changes to National Insurance are good for workers but bad for business. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-28
36:34

115. Trump Could Kill The Dollar

Jim O’Neill, the influential economist who created the BRICS concept, joins Robert to explain why he thinks Reeves’s controversial budget could yet be one of the most important for decades, how Trump could destroy the dollar’s priceless reserve currency status and his anxiety that Russia, China and India are abusing the BRICS brand he created for them. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-25
47:44

114. The End Of The G20?

Robert and Steph discuss their respective trips to Brazil - with the Prime Minister for the G20 summit - and Belfast - for lunch with Hillary Clinton; both of them involving conversations about leadership and the future of trade and democracy. Plus, reaction to the latest inflation figures. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-21
26:37

113. Dan Neidle: Labour Put Up The Wrong Taxes

Tax guru, Dan Neidle joins Steph and Robert to explain why the chancellor’s decision to increase employer’s national insurance was such a mistake, how capital gains tax should have been reformed and why farmers just have to trust their children if they want to avoid the new inheritance tax liability. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-17
43:11

112. What Trump’s Economics Means For Us

Steph and Robert discuss how the UK should respond to Trump’s economics, why business is falling out of love with Labour and whether Starmer’s plan for clean energy by 2030 is deliverable or sensible. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-14
35:30

111. What Would Happen If We Didn't Tax Anyone?

The Undercover Economist, Tim Harford joins Steph to answer your questions, including how a taxless society would operate, whether we can get ourselves out of economic mess by making different lifestyle choices and where butter mountains and wine lakes come from. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-11
40:01

110. Will Trump Make Us Richer Or Poorer?

Robert and Steph look at the risks and rewards of Trump’s radical plan to reshape America’s economy, they profile the unconventional likely next Treasury Secretary in a Trump administration, they explain how Trump could blow up Rachel Reeves’s budget and they highlight how crypto is huge in US politics and non-existent in European. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-08
31:45

109. How Can We Make Taxes Pay?

What do beards, bachelors and windows have in common? Financial Times Columnist, Tim Harford takes us on a tax tour. And with £40 billion pounds worth of tax rises coming our way, Tim chats to Steph about what difference they’ll make and whether we’ll get the growth Labour want. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-07
42:20

108. Rachel Reeves Has Made An Important Start

Robert and Steph chat to former Chief Economist of the Bank of England, Andy Haldane, about whether the Chancellor took enough risks in her budget, whether many economists are being too gloomy about the outlook for productivity and wages, and why we need a revolution in our schools and universities. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Becki Hills, Evan Green Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-04
48:41

107. Rachel Reeves: “We Don’t Need To Come Back And Ask For More”

Robert and Steph hear from the Chancellor about how she shaped her history-making budget, why she won’t be coming back for much more tax in future budgets, why the IFS is wrong to say she’ll have to top up departmental resources in the coming spending review and what she has to say to the business owners who will bear the brunt of the tax raises. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Evan Green, Becki Hills Producer: Ross Buchanan, Joey McCarthy Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11-01
30:09

106. How Much Pain Is Rachel Reeves Inflicting?

Was the budget too harsh on small and medium businesses? How much pain will ‘working people’ feel from the tax changes? Is the OBR right that this mega budget won’t increase the size of the economy over five years? Steph and Robert discuss. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Evan Green, India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-31
37:41

105. What You Need To Know To Judge The Budget

Robert and Steph assess Reeves’ ambitions for the most important budget since the 1980s, whether hypothecated taxes work, and how Russia, China and India are plotting the biggest attack on America's economic power in history. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Evan Green Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-28
52:07

104. Martin Lewis: Are we better off under Labour?

Martin Lewis, the MoneySavingExpert, joins Robert and Steph to crunch the numbers on how Labour got it wrong on the winter fuel payment, the scandal of councils’ vicious debt collection, how schools are failing our children and why, despite suing Facebook, scammers are still getting away with using his face. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-23
49:22

103. It’s Time To Live With Higher Inflation

Steph and Robert talk to leading economist and investor Mohamed El-Erian about how growth is the only solution to our national debt burden, how he would re-write the fiscal rules to allow for much more public investment and why central banks must increase their inflation targets from 2% to 3% Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

10-20
45:44

Jenny Headey

the editing is broken, just listened to the Elon musk episode and the last 5 minutes repeated itself then the episode stopped abruptly!

08-13 Reply

Paul Billington

Does HMRC have telephone Helpline? I called the number that they provided and had to give up after 30 minutes!

08-01 Reply

Paul Billington

I'm still enjoying your podcast. on the subject of employee business participation, I worked for SUN Microsystems. They would issue option constrained so that we couldn't realise their value for five years. So, not only were they exposed to the market risk, but also when the company went into decline, not only did people lose their jobs but also their option were worthless. (All eggs in a leveraged basket)

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Teri Barbour

Generally like this podcast but, in common with many podcasts I listen to, they do not make any distinction between the separate countries of the UK. I listened to the episode about the housing crisis- repeatedly talked about ' this country' when they mean England. Infuriating!

02-09 Reply

Dave Miller

Great podcast, thanks Steph for asking all the questions we are thinking!

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