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Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones. They discuss the epic Game 1 of the Western Conference finals, where Victor Wembanyama made history by being the youngest player ever to score 41 points and grab 24 boards in the playoffs. What can the Thunder do to keep Wemby from having another historic performance in Game 2? How did the Spurs manage to frustrate back-to-back MVP Shai Gilgeous-Alexander? Even though they got blown out in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference semis, did the Pistons actually exceed expectations this season? Plus, the mailbag! Intro (00:00) FanDuel Presenting Sponsor (1:10) Wemby’s historic night (2:01) Strategy for Game 2 (21:00) NBC/Peacock Ad Read (47:50) The Pistons' elimination (48:21) Mailbag (54:49) Hit the mailbag: realonesmailbag@gmail.com Hosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard Beck Producers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff Shearin Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines The NBA Playoffs on NBC and Peacock. It’s Playoff Time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are previewing the conference finals! But they start by talking about the Cavs' Game 7 win over the Pistons and what’s next for Detroit. Then they preview Thunder-Spurs before wrapping up with Cavs-Knicks. (00:00) Intro (1:36) Fan Duel ad break (2:12) Cavs-Pistons Game 7 recap (15:28) What’s next for Detroit? (26:35) Fan Duel ad break (27:01) Thunder-Spurs preview (50:27) Amazon Prime ad break (50:59) Cavs-Knicks preview Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle MannProducers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah BlakelyProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsAdditional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones. They jump right into the San Antonio Spurs defeating the Minnesota Timberwolves in Game 6 of the Western Conference Semifinals and advancing to the Western Conference Finals. Could the Oklahoma City Thunder–Spurs matchup be just the beginning of an epic rivalry? Did the Cleveland Cavaliers completely fumble the bag by falling to the Detroit Pistons in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals, with Game 7 now headed back to Detroit? Steve Kerr is returning to the Golden State Warriors. Do they have any chance to contend during the remainder of his tenure as head coach? Plus, more on the Philadelphia 76ers and Bob Myers leading the search for their new President of Basketball Operations. Intro - (00:00) FanDuel Ad Read - (01:10) Spurs-Wolves - (01:57) What’s next for the Timberwolves? - (08:00) Spurs-Thunder WCF matchup preview - (12:01) Cavaliers-Pistons headed to Game 7 - (29:30) Amazon Prime Ad Read - (39:55) Bob Myers and the Sixers search - (56:22) Real One of the Week - (1:04:55) Hit the mailbag: realonesmailbag@gmail.com Hosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, Howard Beck Producers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff Shearin Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are here right after the Cavs win their first game on the road this postseason and take a 3-2 lead over the Pistons. Then, they talk about Dylan Harper’s breakout and what they think the ceiling is for his career. They wrap up with some of Kyle’s observations from the NBA combine. (00:00) Intro (4:00) Fan Duel ad break (4:39) Cavs-Pistons (28:14) Fan Duel ad break (29:07) Amazon Prime ad break (29:39) Dylan Harper (52:21) Kyle's combine observations Check out Rob’s article on Dylan Harper here: https://www.theringer.com/2026/05/13/nba/dylan-harper-san-antonio-spurs-rookie-playoffs Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle MannProducers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah BlakelyProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsAdditional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock and Raja Bell are back with another edition of Real Ones and get right into the Lakers being eliminated by the Oklahoma City Thunder and what’s next for LeBron James as he heads into free agency. How should we look back on the season that LeBron had? Where should he head next? What is it going to take to beat a Thunder team that seems to be unstoppable? Should Victor Wembanyama have been suspended for elbowing Naz Reid? Are the Wolves not getting the respect they deserve? Do the Cavaliers have the Pistons figured out? (0:00) Intro(0:59) Fan Duel ad break(1:00) - Logan recaps Baby Keem show (4:30) - Lakers get swept (12:00) - What should LeBron do next? (19:00) - OKC and calls (27:48) Amazon Prime ad break(30:00) - Wolves being physical with Wemby (46:00) - Cavaliers even the series Hosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, Howard Beck Producers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff Shearin Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris WohlersHit the mailbag: ⁠realonesmailbag@gmail.com⁠ The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit ⁠https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are here to talk about the winners and losers of the NBA draft lottery. Then they share some of their thoughts from all the playoff series. Check out J. Kyle's Mann's mock draft here. (00:00) Intro (1:59) Fan Duel ad break (2:37) Winners from the draft lottery (42:11) Fan Duel ad break (43:20) Losers from the draft lottery (54:19) Amazon Prime ad break (54:51) Knicks-Sixers (1:00:34) Spurs-Timberwolves (1:07:29:00) Pistons-Cavs (1:13:29) Lakers-Thunder Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah Blakely Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock, Raja Bell and Howard Beck are back with a late night edition of Real Ones, and get right into Spurs-Wolves and Knicks-Sixers Game Three. Just how impactful has Victor Wembanyama been on both ends of the floor? What can the Minnesota Timberwolves do to reduce his impact? The Knicks beat the Sixers easily without OG Anunoby due to a hamstring injury. Are the Knicks the best team left in the east? Are the Thunder quickly becoming the villains of the NBA? Plus, was Draymond Green’s remarks to Charles Barkley out of line? (00:00) Welcome Back to Real Ones (00:45) - Fan Duel Presenting Sponsor (01:56) - Spurs-Wolves (22:18) - Knicks-Sixers (33:01) - Amazon Prime Ad Read (38:03) - OKC villain arc (45:29) - Draymond Green’s comments to Charles Barkley (56:10) - Real one of the Week Hit the mailbag: realonesmailbag@gmail.comHosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, Howard BeckProducers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff ShearinProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsAdditional Production Support: John Richter and Chris WohlersThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are here after the Knicks and Spurs' wins over the Sixers and Timberwolves. They also discuss their thoughts on Cavs-Pistons and Lakers-Thunder. They wrap up with talking about Jaylen Brown's latest livestream.00:00) Intro (4:23) Fan Duel ad break (5:01) Spurs-Wolves (19:42) Knicks-Sixers (39:45) Fan Duel ad break (40:40) Pistons-Cavs (51:13) Amazon Prime ad break (51:45) Lakers-Thunder (1:03:19) Jaylen Brown's livestream Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle MannProducers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah BlakelyProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsAdditional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones and review the Game 1 action from the Wolves-Spurs and Sixers-Knicks. Despite Victor Wembanyama’s historic night, the Spurs lost game one on their home floor. Have we been sleeping on the Wolves? The Knicks crushed the Sixers in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semis, but is there a bright side for the Sixers? Plus, the guys discuss Jaylen Brown’s comments on his Twitch stream about officiating in the first round of the playoffs against the Sixers. (00:00) Welcome Back Real Ones (00:50) FanDuel Presenting Sponsor Ad Read (1:56) Ant Man returns. Timberwolves def. Spurs 104-102 in Game 1 (15:50) The Knicks blowout the 76ers, 137-98, in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Semis (26:25) Jomi’s Pack Watch! (25:44) Men’s Wearhouse Ad Read (30:02) Cavaliers-Pistons Preview (36:16) Jaylen Brown’s Comments on Twitch (51:45) Mailbag Check out these new articles written by our hosts: Howard Beck: https://www.theringer.com/2026/05/04/nba/nba-playoffs-2026-boston-celtics-denver-nuggets-games-parity-history Logan Murdock: https://www.theringer.com/2026/05/05/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder-villains-shai-gilgeous-alexander Hit the mailbag: realonesmailbag@gmail.com Hosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, Howard Beck Producers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff Shearin Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines" When you need your fit to deliver, we’ve got you. Shop Men's Wearhouse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are here to talk about what they learned from round 1 before previewing round 2 by talking about 1 thing they’re going to be watching for. And they wrap up with the news of Masai Ujiri becoming the team president of the Dallas Mavericks. Publishing note: This episode was filmed and set to release before Round 2 of the Playoffs. Any predictions or commentary reflect the sentiments before tonight’s slate of playoff games. (00:00) Intro  (4:30) Fan Duel ad break (5:09) Round 1 takeaways  (8:49) Celtics-Sixers  (12:48) What’s Next for Orlando? (24:22) Jaylen Brown’s livestream (36:14) Fan Duel ad break (45:08) Jokic blowback  (1:03:52) Amazon Prime ad break (1:04:24) Playoff Scapegoats (1:15:31) Respect the regular season  (1:21:22) What we’re looking for in Round 2  (1:34:17) Mavs hire Masai Ujiri Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah Blakely Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock, Raja Bell and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones and get right into the Orlando Magic historically bad second half against the Detroit Pistons in Game 6 of their series. What impressed the guys the most about Cade Cunningham’s stellar performance? The Toronto Raptors forced a Game 7 against the Cleveland Cavaliers thanks to RJ Barrett’s game-winning jumper. What’s next for the Rockets and specifically Kevin Durant following their first round exit where he was out with an injury for the entire series? Can the Sixers possibly pull off the comeback in Boston? Which Minnesota Timberwolves player made the All-Raja team? Plus, Real One of the Week! (00:00) Welcome Back to Real Ones (1:26) Fan Duel ad break (3:32) Magical Collapse (19:24) Amazon Prime ad break (19:58) Toronto Forces Game 7 (28:53) Lakers def. Rockets (43:32) Sixers-Celtics (53:25) Real One of the Week (55:32) Wolves bounce Nuggets Host: Logan Murdock, Howard Beck, and Raja Bell Producers: Victoria Valencia, Clifford Augustin, and Jeff Shearin Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann react to three different series going to 3-2. They start with the Pistons and Rockets saving their seasons against the Magic and Lakers. Then they talk about the Cavs taking the lead in their series against the Raptors. They wrap up by discussing potential lottery reform. (00:00) Intro (3:32) Fan Duel ad break (5:46) Pistons-Magic (23:04) Lakers-Rockets (45:05) Fan Duel ad break (46:33) Amazon Prime ad break (47:04) Cavaliers-Raptors (1:01:14) Lottery reform Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah Blakely Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplinesOrder and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones, and they get right into the playoff action. Are the Wolves in trouble now that Anthony Edwards and Donte DiVincenzo have been ruled out for the series? Has Nikola Jokic’s behavior during this series not been criticized enough? The Pistons are down 3-1 in the series and on the brink of elimination after falling to the eighth-seeded Magic on Monday. Is there any hope for a comeback? Should Joel Embiid have made a return to the series? Plus, the mailbag! (0:00) Intro (0:40) Fan Duel ad break (1:46) Nuggets-Wolves (9:48) Jokic’s confrontation with Jaden McDaniels (15:33) Fan Duel ad break (17:00) Magic-Pistons (34:12) McDonald’s ad break (34:42) Cooper Flagg wins ROTY (37:55) Joel Embiid and the Sixers (43:18) Mailbag Hosts: Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard BeckProducers: Victoria Valencia and Clifford AugustinAdditional Video Support: Jeff ShearinProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsGraphics: John RichterAdditional Production Support: Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Get more value with the McValue menu at McDonald’s https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/download-app.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann open by recapping the Spurs' winning weekend in Portland. Then they break down the rest of this weekend’s playoffs matchups, including Jokic’s meltdown, the trust level of Eastern Conference teams, and the Pistons meeting their match in Orlando. (0:00) Intro (3:51) Fan Duel ad break (4:28) - Spurs-Blazers (28:09) Injuries Mounting in the Playoffs (30:55) - Is the door open for the Spurs to improbably win it all? (35:28) - Men’s Wearhouse ad break (36:10)- Jokic’s confrontation with Jaden McDaniels (42:16)- Is Jokic the greatest player of all time? (50:24) - Wolves’s playoff performance (54:52) - Cavs-Raptors (57:33) - Messiness in the East Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Stefan Anderson Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. When you need your fit to deliver, we’ve got you. Shop Men's Wearhouse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rockets fell to the Lakers in game three of the first round due to some late game blunders that had Logan Murdock, Raja Bell and Howard Beck puzzled. Why has the theme for the Rockets all season been the inability to close out games? Did they miss out on an opportunity to acquire a guard at the deadline to help with these issues? The Celtics defeated the Sixers in a close one in Philly to take the series lead 2-1. Is Jayson Tatum fully back? Has Rudy Gobert gotten the better end of his matchup against Nikola Jokic? What’s wrong with the Knicks offense down the stretch of games? Plus, Real One of the Week! (00:00) Intro (1:09) Fan Duel ad break (1:59) Lakers-Rockets (23:00) Celtics-Sixers (34:17) Amazon Prime ad break (34:49) Nuggets-Wolves (44:55) Hawks-Knicks (55:51) Real One of the Week Hosts: Logan Murdock, Howard Beck, and Raja Bell Producers: Victoria Valencia and Clifford Augustin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Hit the mailbag! realonesmailbag@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann are here right after the Wednesday night playoff games to first react to the Pistons' bounceback win in Game 2 over the Magic, and then the Thunder surviving a late push from the Suns to go up 2-0. Then, they each talk about something they think they know about these playoffs.(00:00) Intro (3:35) Fan Duel ad break (4:12) Pistons-Magic (21:37) Thunder-Suns (37:40) Fan Duel ad break (39:07) Amazon Prime ad break (39:37) What they think they know about these playoffs Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle MannProducers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah BlakelyProduction Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor NevinsAdditional Production Support: John Richter and Chris WohlersSocial: Keith Fujimoto and Isaiah BlakelyThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock, Raja Bell, and Howard Beck are back with another edition of Real Ones to review the games from the weekend and Monday. Are the Knicks in trouble now that the Hawks have tied the series 1-1 before they head down to Atlanta? Does Denver have a defense problem? If Kevin Durant doesn’t play in the series against the Lakers, are the Rockets in trouble? (0:00) Intro (1:01) Fan Duel ad break (3:20) Knicks-Hawks (17:23) Wolves-Nuggets (27:06) Sixers-Celtics (28:33) Fan Duel ad break (29:36) McDonald’s ad break (30:06) Magic-Pistons (41:50) Raptors-Cavaliers (45:07) Suns-Thunder (48:32)  Rockets-Lakers (56:28) Blazers-Spurs (59:40) Blazers’ owner is cheap (1:00:33) Mailbag Hosts: Logan Murdock, Howard Beck, and Raja Bell Producers: Victoria Valencia and Clifford Augustin Additional Production Support: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Hit the mailbag! realonesmailbag@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Get more value with the McValue menu at McDonald’s https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/download-app.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann discuss their takeaways from all the first-round games. (00:00) Intro (1:32) Fan Duel ad break (2:31) Magic-Pistons (19:00) Spurs-Trail Blazers (36:04) Thunder-Suns (40:46) Celtics-Sixers (43:22) Men’s Wearhouse ad break (44:12) Nuggets-Timberwolves (52:22) Knicks-Hawks (59:04) Lakers-Rockets (1:08:35) Raptors-Cavaliers Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah Blakely Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers Social: Keith Fujimoto and Isaiah Blakely The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. When you need your fit to deliver, we’ve got you. Shop Men's Wearhouse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Logan Murdock and Howard Beck are back with the 2026 playoff edition of Real or Fake! They go through each team that’s made it through to the playoffs and figure out who the real contenders are and which teams have a slight chance to no chance. (0:00) Intro (1:04) Fan Duel ad break (02:12) Real or Fake: Detroit Pistons (10:06) Real or Fake: San Antonio Spurs (16:20) Real or Fake: Cleveland Cavaliers (20:39) Real or Fake: Toronto Raptors (23:17) Real or Fake: Houston Rockets (34:01) Real or Fake: New York Knicks (36:29) Amazon Prime ad break (37:59) Real or Fake: Boston Celtics (44:35) Real or Fake: Atlanta Hawks (47:04) Real or Fake: Oklahoma City Thunder (53:36) Real or Fake: Denver Nuggets (56:32) Real or Fake: Minnesota Timberwolves (59:46) Real or Fake: Los Angeles Lakers (01:03:21) Real One of the Week: Warriors (01:12:07) Real One of the Week: Chris Paul Hosts: Logan Murdock and Howard Beck Producers: Victoria Valencia and Clifford Augustin Additional video support: Jamie Yukich Production: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Hit the mailbag! realonesmailbag@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out rg-help.com to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin, Rob, and J. Kyle Mann open with a thought-provoking question about the NBA playoffs before jumping into the highly anticipated return of the Verriables ahead of all of the playoff excitement. This year, Justin’s playoff Verriables pose questions like: How many teams can realistically win the East? If not the Thunder in the West, then who? Who’s going to be the leap guy? Lastly, the guys predict every matchup on the board and make early Finals picks. (0:00) Intro (2:53) FanDuel ad break (3:30) Should the NBA move to a shorter series? (6:35) Verriables intro (10:10) How many teams can realistically win the East? (19:34) If not the Thunder in the West, then who? (34:46) Who’s going to be the leap guy? (44:35) FanDuel ad break (45:56) Amazon Prime ad break (46:27) Which player or team exec has the most riding on this postseason? (59:14) Playoff matchup predictions (1:26:52) Early Finals picks Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, and J. Kyle Mann Producers: Victoria Valencia and Isaiah Blakely Production Supervision: Ben Cruz and Conor Nevins Additional Production Support: John Richter and Chris Wohlers Social: Keith Fujimoto and Isaiah Blakely Verriables Music by: John Robison The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Order and it will come. Like today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices