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Featuring honest conversations with folks from across the creative industry, Season 2 of The Rough Draft explores the creative process, tools, and resources used by some of the best in the business. From journalists to content creators and business leaders, we shed light on what it looks like to break into the industry, make mistakes, collaborate with others, and the essential tools that help us along the way.
Mini episodes released every Tuesday and Thursday. Full interviews with guests published every other Thursday.
Mini episodes released every Tuesday and Thursday. Full interviews with guests published every other Thursday.
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Hannah Williams is the creator and host of Salary Transparent Street, a social media interview series that asks people to share their job title and salary. In this episode, Hannah talks about her passion for salary transparency, learning to be a content creator, and some of the free tools she’s created to help more people understand how much they could and should be making. Guest BioHannah Williams is a 27-year-old content creator and former senior data analyst tackling a major issue: salary transparency. In her viral street interview series, Salary Transparent Street, Hannah interviews strangers about their salaries to combat discriminatory tendencies in employment, normalize pay transparency, and close pay gaps. In 2 years, her interviews have achieved over 1 billion views, her account has gained nearly 3M followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, and her business has grossed over $1M. She's testified in support of pay transparency bills in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, DC. In 2024, she was named a Forbes 30 Under 30 recipient.Social MediaFollow Salary Transparency on… TikTokInstagramYouTubeRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Check out Hannah’s free guides for market research and salary negotiation. Browse the salary database at SalaryTransparentStreet.com Browse the job board Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Hannah Williams is the creator and host of Salary Transparent Street, a social media interview series that asks people to share their job title and salary. After interviewing hundreds of people about their salaries, she created a slew of free resources (including a salary database and guides on doing market research) to create even more salary transparency. Guest BioHannah Williams is a 27-year-old content creator and former senior data analyst tackling a major issue: salary transparency. In her viral street interview series, Salary Transparent Street, Hannah interviews strangers about their salaries to combat discriminatory tendencies in employment, normalize pay transparency, and close pay gaps. In 2 years, her interviews have achieved over 1 billion views, her account has gained nearly 3M followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, and her business has grossed over $1M. She's testified in support of pay transparency bills in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, DC. In 2024, she was named a Forbes 30 Under 30 recipient.Social MediaFollow Salary Transparency on… TikTokInstagramYouTubeRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional ResourcesCheck out Hannah’s free guides for market research and salary negotiation. Browse the salary database at SalaryTransparentStreet.comBrowse the job board Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Hannah Williams is the creator and host of Salary Transparent Street, a social media interview series that asks people to share their job title and salary. In this episode, Hannah shares the tools she uses to create content and how she navigates the constantly changing algorithms of the social media platforms she posts on. Guest BioHannah Williams is a 27-year-old content creator and former senior data analyst tackling a major issue: salary transparency. In her viral street interview series, Salary Transparent Street, Hannah interviews strangers about their salaries to combat discriminatory tendencies in employment, normalize pay transparency, and close pay gaps. In 2 years, her interviews have achieved over 1 billion views, her account has gained nearly 3M followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, and her business has grossed over $1M. She's testified in support of pay transparency bills in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, DC. In 2024, she was named a Forbes 30 Under 30 recipient.Social MediaFollow Salary Transparency on… TikTokInstagramYouTubeRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Browse the salary database at SalaryTransparentStreet.com Browse the job board Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Hannah Williams is the creator and host of Salary Transparent Street, a social media interview series that asks people to share their job title and salary. In this episode, Hannah shares the origin story of the channel and how its led to her creating more salary transparency tools and testifying for salary transparency laws. Guest BioHannah Williams is a 27-year-old content creator and former senior data analyst tackling a major issue: salary transparency. In her viral street interview series, Salary Transparent Street, Hannah interviews strangers about their salaries to combat discriminatory tendencies in employment, normalize pay transparency, and close pay gaps. In 2 years, her interviews have achieved over 1 billion views, her account has gained nearly 3M followers across TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, and her business has grossed over $1M. She's testified in support of pay transparency bills in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, DC. In 2024, she was named a Forbes 30 Under 30 recipient.Social MediaFollow Salary Transparency on… TikTokInstagramYouTubeRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Browse the salary database at SalaryTransparentStreet.com Browse the job board
Episode SummaryMatt Stillo is an audio producer, engineer and sound designer. In this episode he talks about his path from NYU arts student to podcast production, how AI is changing the audio industry, and why he wanted to focus on detailed sound design when he created his own podcast, No F*cking Way. Guest BioMatt Stillo is a story-oriented editor, sound designer, engineer, and audio producer based in Brooklyn. He currently produces podcasts for Ruby, iHeart Radio’s branded creative studio. He previously worked on audio projects with Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig, A24, Spotify, CBS, A&E, Discovery, and more. He’s also the host and creator of the podcast No Fucking Way. Social Media Find Matt on LinkedInAdditional ResourcesAtomic Habits (book) AuphonicListen to the No F*cking Way episodes Missing in Mexico Part 1 and Part 2Rate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, iHeart Radio producer Matt Stillo talks about making his podcast No F*cking Way, where he and his co-creator James Foster shared insane stories from real people. They spent a lot of time sound designing each episode to turn these stories into dramatic, cinematic podcast episodes.Guest BioMatt Stillo is a story-oriented editor, sound designer, engineer, and audio producer based in Brooklyn. He currently produces podcasts for Ruby, iHeart Radio’s creative studio for brands. He previously worked on audio projects with Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig, A24, Spotify, CBS, A&E, Discovery, and more. He’s also the host and creator of the podcast No F*cking Way. Social Media Find Matt on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, iHeart Radio producer Matt Stillo talks about how AI tools are changing the world of podcasts (the good and the bad) and other tools he uses as an audio engineer, producer and sound designer. Guest BioMatt Stillo is a story-oriented editor, sound designer, engineer, and audio producer based in Brooklyn. He currently produces podcasts for Ruby, iHeart Radio’s creative studio for brands. He previously worked on audio projects with Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig, A24, Spotify, CBS, A&E, Discovery, and more. He’s also the host and creator of the podcast No Fucking Way. Social Media Find Matt on LinkedInAdditional ResourcesAtomic Habits (book) AuphonicRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryMatt Stillo is an audio producer and engineer and producer for Ruby, iHeart Radio’s creative studio for brands. In this episode, Matt talks about his journey from an NYU arts student to discovering his love of audio and sound design. Guest BioMatt Stillo is a story-oriented editor, sound designer, engineer, and audio producer based in Brooklyn. He currently produces podcasts for Ruby, iHeart Radio’s creative studio for brands. He previously worked on audio projects with Wes Anderson, Greta Gerwig, A24, Spotify, CBS, A&E, Discovery, and more. He’s also the host and creator of the podcast No Fucking Way. Social Media Find Matt on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, host Kendell Kelton interviews Peter Balonon-Rosen, a producer for Vox's daily news podcast "Today Explained." Peter discusses his journey from public access TV to audio journalism, his transition from reporting to producing, and his passion for crafting sound-rich stories by utilizing transformative music & immersive sound design.Guest BioPeter Balonon-Rosen is a producer for Vox's daily news podcast and radio show Today, Explained where he's drawn to covering stories about inequality, culture and policy.Before joining Vox, Peter produced Throughline at NPR. Prior to that he made podcasts at Marketplace, where he reported/produced for The Uncertain Hour, was a founding producer of This Is Uncomfortable and contributed reporting to radio broadcasts. He began in radio as an education beat reporter. Peter’s work has appeared on Snap Judgment, Reveal, NPR‘s Planet Money, All Things Considered and Morning Edition, and more. Social MediaFollow Peter on XRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Listen to Today Explained. Listen to ‘The Kids Aren’t Reading Alright’ from Today Explained. Listen to Peter’s story ‘What Dad Left Behind’ from This is Uncomfortable.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, Peter Balonon-Rosen discusses producing "What Dad Left Behind", an episode for the podcast "This Is Uncomfortable." The episode is a deeply personal story about his friend Dean's experience with an inheritance after his father's death. Peter shares his approach to balancing journalistic integrity with personal relationships, and how this experience shaped his interviewing technique with other subjects dealing with sensitive topics.Guest BioPeter Balonon-Rosen is a producer for Vox's daily news podcast and radio show Today, Explained where he's drawn to covering stories about inequality, culture and policy.Before joining Vox, Peter produced Throughline at NPR. Prior to that he made podcasts at Marketplace, where he reported/produced for The Uncertain Hour, was a founding producer of This Is Uncomfortable and contributed reporting to radio broadcasts. He began in radio as an education beat reporter. Peter’s work has appeared on Snap Judgment, Reveal, NPR‘s Planet Money, All Things Considered and Morning Edition, and more. Social MediaFollow Peter on XRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Listen to Today Explained. Listen to Peter’s story ‘What Dad Left Behind’ from This is Uncomfortable.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Rough Draft, Vox producer Peter Balonon-Rosen shares insights into his creative process as an audio producer. He describes his approach to story selection, sourcing stories, and he reflects on how COVID-19 transformed podcast production.Guest BioPeter Balonon-Rosen is a producer for Vox's daily news podcast and radio show Today, Explained where he's drawn to covering stories about inequality, culture and policy.Before joining Vox, Peter produced Throughline at NPR. Prior to that he made podcasts at Marketplace, where he reported/produced for The Uncertain Hour, was a founding producer of This Is Uncomfortable and contributed reporting to radio broadcasts. He began in radio as an education beat reporter. Peter’s work has appeared on Snap Judgment, Reveal, NPR‘s Planet Money, All Things Considered and Morning Edition, and more. Social MediaFollow Peter on XRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Listen to Today Explained.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, host Kendall Kelton interviews Peter Balonon-Rosen, a producer for Vox's daily news podcast "Today Explained." Peter discusses his journey from public access TV to audio journalism, his transition from reporting to producing, and his passion for creating sound rich stories that use music and sound effects. Guest BioPeter Balonon-Rosen is a producer for Vox's daily news podcast and radio show Today, Explained where he's drawn to covering stories about inequality, culture and policy.Before joining Vox, Peter produced Throughline at NPR. Prior to that he made podcasts at Marketplace, where he reported/produced for The Uncertain Hour, was a founding producer of This Is Uncomfortable and contributed reporting to radio broadcasts. He began in radio as an education beat reporter. Peter’s work has appeared on Snap Judgment, Reveal, NPR‘s Planet Money, All Things Considered and Morning Edition, and more. Social MediaFollow Peter on XRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Additional Resources Listen to Today Explained. Listen to ‘The Kids Aren’t Reading Alright’ from Today Explained.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryJosh Olenslager is the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning. In this episode, he talks about leading a team that helps educate professionals and how he balances his personal creative projects with a corporate job.Guest BioJosh Olenslager is the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, a platform that offers video courses to help professionals learn new skills. Outside of his job, his creative pursuits include writing poetry and working on his second musical. Social Media Josh on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and X.The Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryJosh Olenslager, the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, talks about the creative projects he works on in his free time and how those projects are crucial to his creativity. Guest BioJosh Olenslager is the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, a platform that offers video courses to help professionals learn new skills. Outside of his job, his creative pursuits include writing poetry and working on his second musical. Social Media Josh on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and X.The Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryJosh Olenslager, the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, talks about how he makes time for his creative pursuits while also working a full-time corporate job.Guest BioJosh Olenslager is the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, a platform that offers video courses to help professionals learn new skills. Outside of his job, his creative pursuits include writing poetry and working on his second musical. Social Media Josh on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and X.The Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryIn this episode, Josh Olenslager, the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, talks about his role and how his team is trying to meet the demand from its audience to learn more about AI.Guest BioJosh Olenslager is the Director of Publishing Operations at LinkedIn Learning, a platform that offers video courses to help professionals learn new skills. Outside of his job, his creative pursuits include writing poetry and working on his second musical. Social Media Josh on LinkedInRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryCasey Miner started her career as a reporter for the NPR station in San Francisco. She eventually started working in podcasts and now works on the team that makes Throughline from NPR. In this episode, Casey talks about getting into audio, the state of the podcast industry and the process of making her favorite episode of Throughline, A Tale of Two Tribal Nations. Guest BioCasey Miner is an award-winning narrative editor, audio producer, and writer. She currently works for Throughline at NPR as an editor. She’s also worked with Planet Money, Wondery, Reveal, The Stoop, Slate, Pop-Up Magazine, and Mother Jones, among many others. She has co-created and launched four successful podcasts, including hosting and creating The Specialist, a show about work we don't think about and the people who do it. Additional ResourcesCasey’s websiteListen to ‘A Tale of Two Tribes’Listen to the Throughline episode about the Third Amendment Listen to Throughline from NPRRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryCasey Miner started her career as a reporter for the NPR station in San Francisco. She eventually started working in podcasts and now works on the team that makes Throughline from NPR. In this episode, Casey talks about the process of making an episode of Throughline, A Tale of Two Tribal Nations. The episode is about the history and reality of Native tribes owning their reservation land.Guest BioCasey Miner is an award-winning narrative editor, audio producer, and writer. She currently works for Throughline at NPR as an editor. She’s also worked with Planet Money, Wondery, Reveal, The Stoop, Slate, Pop-Up Magazine, and Mother Jones, among many others. She has co-created and launched four successful podcasts, including hosting and creating The Specialist, a show about work we don't think about and the people who do it. Additional ResourcesCasey’s websiteListen to ‘A Tale of Two Tribes’Listen to Throughline from NPRRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryCasey Miner started her career as a reporter for the NPR station in San Francisco. She eventually started working in podcasts and now works on the team that makes Throughline from NPR. In this episode, Casey talks about the team effort it takes to bring an episode of Throughline to air, and what her role as an editor looks like. Guest BioCasey Miner is an award-winning narrative editor, audio producer, and writer. She currently works for Throughline at NPR as an editor. She’s also worked with Planet Money, Wondery, Reveal, The Stoop, Slate, Pop-Up Magazine, and Mother Jones, among many others. She has co-created and launched four successful podcasts, including hosting and creating The Specialist, a show about work we don't think about and the people who do it. Additional ResourcesCasey’s websiteListen to the Throughline episode about the Third Amendment Listen to Throughline from NPRRate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and XThe Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
Episode SummaryCasey Miner started her career as a reporter for the NPR station in San Francisco. She eventually started working in podcasts and now works on the team that makes Throughline from NPR. In this episode, Casey talks about her career as an audio producer and editor, and the current struggles in the podcasting industry. Guest BioCasey Miner is an award-winning narrative editor, audio producer, and writer. She currently works for Throughline at NPR as an editor. She’s also worked with Planet Money, Wondery, Reveal, The Stoop, Slate, Pop-Up Magazine, and Mother Jones, among many others. She has co-created and launched four successful podcasts, including hosting and creating The Specialist, a show about work we don't think about and the people who do it. Additional ResourcesCasey’s websiteListen to Throughline from NPRListen to Casey’s first podcast, The Specialist.Rate and SubscribeBe sure to subscribe to The Rough Draft on Spotify, Apple, or anywhere you get your podcasts in order to stay up to date with the latest episodes.Follow Rev and The Rough Draft on Instagram, LinkedIn and X.The Rough Draft is produced by Rev, and releases a new episode every Tuesday & Thursday.Mentioned in this episode:Rev.com
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