The Rugby NorCal Podcast

USA Rugby CEO Bill Goren joins Rugby NorCal Executive Director Nathan Dalena for a conversation about where American rugby is headed and what needs to happen now to build sustainable growth.Bill outlines USA Rugby’s core responsibilities, from governance and player safety to supporting the community game and developing coaches and referees. He also discusses the importance of creating a rugby ecosystem that keeps people involved in the sport beyond their playing careers.A major focus of the conversation is USA Rugby’s investment in college rugby. Bill explains why the college game is such an important connection point between youth rugby, senior clubs, and the high-performance pathway, as well as the development of a dedicated team to support college rugby operations, events, and marketing.Nathan and Bill also discuss youth and high school rugby, and efforts to establish rugby as a varsity sport in the States.The conversation expands into marketing and visibility, including national broadcasts, short-form social media, local activation around major matches, and the role clubs can play by connecting national rugby stories to athletes in their own communities.With the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles followed by the 2031 Men’s Rugby World Cup and 2033 Women’s Rugby World Cup in the United States, the discussion focuses on building the infrastructure now so American rugby can take advantage of those opportunities for years to come.In this episode:• USA Rugby’s priorities and responsibilities• Growing the community game• Investment in college rugby• Youth and high school rugby grants• Varsity rugby and institutional support• Coaching and referee development• Marketing and national visibility• Local storytelling and community engagement• Professionalizing rugby organizations• Creating sustainable pathways beyond playing• Preparing for 2028, 2031, and 2033• Collaboration between USA Rugby and local rugby organizations worldrugbyshop.comrugbynorcal.orggoffrugbyreport.com

https://healthysportsparents.com/ https://www.instagram.com/healthysportsparents/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-carone-52145778/ What we cover: Where parental pressure really comes from How identity and ego show up in youth sports Why kids value development over winning The “24-hour rule” and why it matters What kids actually want out of sports The current youth sports landscape and where it is heading How organizations can create better environments for athletes Key Takeaways: Parental Pressure is Identity Driven A lot of pressure comes from parents tying their self-worth to their child’s performance. This often leads to behaviors that hurt both enjoyment and development. Winning is Not the Priority for Kids Research shows kids would rather lose in a growth-focused environment than win in one centered only on results. The 24-Hour Rule Avoid giving immediate feedback after games. Let athletes decompress and come to you if they want input. Fun Drives Retention Kids stay in sports when they are: Playing with friends Competing Learning new skills Supported by adults Youth Sports Needs a Reset The system has become overly focused on outcomes, travel, and cost. There is a shift happening back toward development and balance. Why it matters for Rugby NorCal: This conversation reinforces the direction we are taking as an organization: Development over standings at younger ages Long-term athlete growth Creating environments where players want to stay in the game Action Items: Parents: Focus on support, not coaching Coaches: Set expectations early with families Clubs: Continue building development-first environments worldrugbyshop.comrugbynorcal.orggoffrugbyreport.com

Key Topics NorCal Pipeline ~80% of the roster comes from California Strong ties to Jesuit, Danville, SFGG, Marin, and more Kyle’s background as a Granite Bay national champion Program Identity Blue-collar mentality Physical, high-effort rugby Culture built on camaraderie and accountability Player Development Recruiting “rugby players,” not positions Position changes to get the best 15 on the field Young roster with long-term upside Training Environment Year-round indoor training facility Structured, high-intensity sessions Built-in academic balance with winter downtime Strength & Conditioning Same S&C structure as Boise State Football Led by high-level performance staff Scholarship Opportunity (WUI) 3.5+ GPA = automatic qualification $16,000 per year for four years No SAT/ACT required In many cases, more affordable than in-state California schools Why Boise Safe, clean city Strong academics (Business, Nursing, Construction Management) Access to outdoors, travel, and big-time college atmosphere Recruiting Links Website: https://www.boisestatemensrugby.com/ Next Phase: https://app.nextphaserugby.com/dashboard/about-school Recruiting Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdNvaKll5OPvfw70nyEX0oZ1T2KhCiWUZuk2FSi6HNfyyxXsA/viewform?usp=header Closing Thought Boise State Rugby isn’t trying to be flashy. They’re building a team that’s tough, physical, and connected. And with the pipeline they’re tapping into, don’t be surprised when they’re competing at the national level in the next few years.               worldrugbyshop.comrugbynorcal.orggoffrugbyreport.com

Key Topics Brendo’s rugby journey • Starting at San Francisco Golden Gate as a sophomore • Lessons from coaches Mike Caravelli and Tony Wells • The influence of the “15 vs 15” philosophy Saint Mary’s College rugby • Why he chose Saint Mary’s • The impact of Tim O’Brien and the program’s culture • The power of the alumni network Building a coaching career • Volunteering for seven years at Saint Mary’s • Joining the USA U20 pathway • Learning foundational coaching from J.D. Stevenson Entering professional rugby • Assistant coach and academy role with the Austin Gilgronis • Working with international coaches and learning professional systems • Experience coaching in Super Rugby Americas with the American Raptors Utah Warriors and MLR coaching • Role as Attack and Backs Coach • Team success leading the league in tries and points • What it takes to run a professional weekly training cycle Player development in the United States • The importance of core skills • Why players must be able to carry, pass, and kick • How watching professional rugby improves decision making The future of professional rugby in the US • MLR’s reset to a smaller league • More opportunities for American players • The importance of community support for the league and national team worldrugbyshop.comrugbynorcal.orggoffrugbyreport.com

Episode OverviewNate sits down with Alex Goff of Goff Rugby Report to break down the current state of high school and college rugby, with a focus on NorCal’s competitive depth and what it takes to reach Nationals.NorCal ParityBoth the Premier club division and Single School Open division are wide open. Multiple programs are capable of winning championships, which makes rankings volatile but raises the overall standard week to week.College Rugby GrowthPrograms like Grand Canyon University and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo are rising through strong coaching, affordability, and early playing opportunities. Parity at the college level continues to grow nationwide.Nationals Selection CriteriaFinancial stability, early application, strength of schedule, sportsmanship, and roster integrity all matter. Preparation for Nationals starts long before playoffs.Strategic SchedulingNorCal programs are encouraged to plan now for MLK and Presidents Day 2027 matchups, especially with cold-weather teams seeking tours. Cross-regional play strengthens teams and builds relationships.For coverage updates or corrections, contact Alex directly at:[email protected] worldrugbyshop.comrugbynorcal.orggoffrugbyreport.com