The Saucer Life

The Saucer Life is a podcast exploring the history and lore of flying saucer and UFO culture, running the gamut from Contactees to the Men In Black and from Underground Bases to Abductions.

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Episode Notes We advise those engaged in saucer work to please be very cautious.

10-30
04:00

Reading Together

Episode Notes A quick one this time, with an exploration of how some UFO books just... go together really well and how they provide a level of understanding that is often more than the sum of their parts. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

07-29
30:36

The Nevada and California Road Trip

Episode Notes It’s the annual Road Trip episode as Simpson J. Hanover III and I head west to the desert, taking in the environs of Area 51 and the ET Highway, Giant Rock, a fleeting glimpse of the Integration, and Desert Center, California. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

06-27
01:04:17

UFO Contact from Andromeda, Part 2

Episode Notes We’re finishing our exploration of the book UFO Contact from Andromeda by getting into the nuts and bolts (or not) of Lya’s message to the semi-mysterious Professor R.N. Hernandez! As a reminder, this book and its message seems to have had a bit of a confusing journey from experiencer to reader so for a rundown of that, be sure to check out part 1 of the story in the archives. You can find UFO Contact from Andromeda at Amazon as an ebook or you can buy a horrifically expensive used hardcover. Similarly the updated translation—Prophecies of an Extraterrestrial Woman—is on Amazon as an ebook, hardcover, or paperback. Please note that purchases from these links benefit the Saucer Life! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

06-13
54:51

UFO Contact from Andromeda, Part 1

Episode Notes It’s a Contact tale from Mexico, filtered through the typewriter of American UFO figure Wendelle Stevens. This is one of those contact stories that seems to have gotten very little attention in the broader UFO world so it’s a delight to be able to share it with you! In this first part, we’ll take a look at where the story came from and meet Professor R.N. Hernandez: a respected scientist who had his worldview expanded by a beautiful, alien woman named Lya.  Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

05-26
44:29

The Zine Scene- UFO Magazine Vol 3, No 1 (Part 2)

Episode Notes In this episode, we’re finishing our look at Volume 3, Issue 1 of UFO Magazine. We’re past the news and editorials and into some meatier stuff including an interview with Whitley Strieber, an article by Michael Grosso on his “Paraterrestrial Hypothesis,” want ads, and some poetry. Be sure to check out all the great back issues of this mag up for sale at https://www.ufomag.com Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

04-18
58:05

The Zine Scene- UFO Magazine Vol 3, No 1 (Part 1)

Episode Notes In this episode, we’re starting our look at Volume 3, Issue 1 of UFO Magazine. This is an issue jam packed full of great UFO stories and history, including a key piece of the UFO Conspiracy narrative of the late 80s, the dawn of the Mr. Ed photos, and a surprising rabbit hole that led me to a “sonic xenolinguistics performance art group” (including this great number!) Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

03-28
45:28

Gray Barker, Books, and Saucers- an Interview with author Gabriel Mckee

Episode Notes It’s a rare Saucer Life interview! In this episode, we talk to author Gabriel Mckee about his new biography of Gray Barker: The Saucerian: UFOs, Men in Black, and the Unbelievable Life of Gray Barker. It comes out on April 22, 2025 and—having read an advance copy—I can say it is an astounding and thoroughly researched work. Here are some links to get the book: Amazon (this affiliate link helps the Saucer Life) The book’s page at MIT Press has links to get the book at a wide variety of other venues as well, including independent booksellers. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website | Instagram

03-14
01:08:23

Outer Space Christ Communism

Episode Notes We conclude our look at Allen Michael and his outer space hippy communism! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

02-28
39:46

Life in a UFO Commune

Episode Notes As we continue our look at Allen Michael's One World Family Commune UFO group from the 1960s, we talk about a woman named Del Rainer, who joined the commune in 1967 at the age of 40 and wrote about her experiences decades later. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

01-20
37:04

Allen Noonan's Strange Experience

Episode Notes We are beginning a multi-part journey that is going to take us to the end of the year. Contactees, UFOs, the counterculture of the 60s, communes, weird space music, a new messiah for a new age… it’s wild. We begin, in this episode, with Allen Noonan, a sign painter from California who has an enlightening experience and begins building a community around it. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Instagram Facebook

11-11
57:54

The 7th & A Bit Anniversary

Episode Notes It’s the 7 ( and 1/12) anniversary of The Saucer Life! For the occasion, and in response to some messages I’ve received, I’m going to be revisiting my list of top ten important UFO books from four years ago. There are some changes to the list which will doubtless generate controversy (this may be an exaggeration).  After listening, you can find the list and links to purchase (which benefit the show) here! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

09-27
32:53

Art Gatti's Alien Sex Book

Episode Notes Art Gatti’s 1978 book UFO Encounters of the Fourth Kind? is a tour de force of supposed alien-human sexual encounters. Going all the way back to the dawn of time, Gatti makes the case for long-term alien sexual interference with humanity. I’d like to say he does it with tact and class but that would be a lie. Listen along as we cover the book, detail some of his very 1970s turns-of-phrase, and talk about the very interesting story of Cynthia Applegate, since Gatti doesn’t spend enough time on it! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

09-13
48:51

The Zine Scene- Flying Saucers, February 1969

Episode Notes It's another installment in our Zine Scene series! This time, we're looking at the February, 1969 issue of Flying Saucers Magazine. This was a long-running publication from the prolific Ray Palmer, who co-founded Fate Magazine and brought us the dubious glory of the Richard Shaver hollow Earth tales. This issue is rife with interesting ads, a condemnation of the Allende Letters, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

09-04
52:54

Elmwood, Wisconsin

Episode Notes In 1975 and 1976 retired police chief George Wheeler had two extraordinary UFO sightings. He was not alone in this, as witnesses came out of the woodwork and corroborated his story in remarkable detail. In this episode of the Saucer Life, we’ll look at these sightings and the UFO culture that grew up around them in this tiny Wisconsin town. Get information about Elmwood’s UFO Days here: https://www.wisconsinfrights.com/elmwood-ufo-days/ Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

07-25
43:39

West Virginia 2024

Episode Notes It’s time for the (mostly) annual Saucer Life Saucer Road Trip and, as with 2020’s visit to the Kelly and Hopkinsville areas, Associate Producer Simpson J. Hanover III is with me to provide an everyperson perspective to the things we see and do. We hit Point Pleasant and Braxton County, retrace my path through the TNT area where I saw the Mysterious Black Cadillac in 2021, and check out new-to-us museums and attractions in the region. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

07-22
01:27:39

The Woodrew Update Update Update

Episode Notes This is a bit of a sequel to our 2020 episode about Greta Woodrew, (Why do Birdlike Aliens Suddenly Appear?)and focuses on some newly available issues of her Woodrew Update newsletter from the 1980s. From Earth Changes to prepper-behavior, to the (not so) subtle bragging on her genius children, these newsletters provided an interesting window into a woman who was one of the most atypical contactees out there. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

06-25
39:56

The Alien Abduction Survival Guide

Episode Notes The Alien Abduction Survival Guide by Michelle LaVigne is... not entirely what it sounds like. While there are several tips for coping with one's abduction experiences, the most interesting aspect of the book is the manner in which the author positions herself within the shared experiences of humans and their alien mentors. Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook Show descriptions may contain affiliate links!

05-24
54:53

The Wolverton Trail Event

Episode Notes Recounting a contactee tale that took place in 1955, Oscar F. Knight's booklet "The Wolverton Trail Event" is a unique story that exudes sincerity. Regardless of the saucer content, this is fascinating account! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

04-26
42:17

An Exclusive Interview with Myself

Episode Notes In this episode, I asked myself some questions that I’ve always wanted the answers to. Well, at least my answers on this particular day. These answer may change in the future. What’s the deal with Roswell? Least favorite episode of my own podcast? Favorite UFO book? Believe me when I say that I wasn’t sure how I’d answer when I asked myself! Subscribe to our Patreon for bonus episodes, behind the scenes action, and more! Website Twitter Instagram Facebook

03-27
37:30

Allen Jones

which episode contains the story of Elisabeth Clairer

03-07 Reply

Junkyjunk McJunky

Possibly my favorite episode, love the discussion around a never established uflogical lexicon.

01-22 Reply

Terry Jones

no Rushmore or Palomar. either go out to Giant Rock and carve the faces in bas relief on it, or go to the desert near Area 51 and do Nazca line carvings of these folks across some huge, flat, only-can-be-seen-from-space area.

10-03 Reply

Tim Brigham

great stuff! Barker' s words in his review of Berthums book bring tears! keep it up

12-18 Reply

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