Have you ever sat through a presentation that felt completely correct, and somehow also completely forgettable?In this episode of the ScienceForWork podcast, host Matt Lampe, PsyD, talks with AJ Thurston, PhD, Chief of Market Research for military recruiting within the DoD Office of People Analytics and a professor of I/O psychology at George Mason University, about what it actually takes to communicate data so people understand it.AJ makes the case that being understood is almost entirely the communicator's responsibility, not the audience's, and that simple, honest communication is a skill worth deliberately building, no matter who you're talking to.In this conversation, AJ and Matt explore:Why the responsibility to be understood belongs to the communicator, not the audienceHow to structure a message so it sticksWhy bar charts, not fancy dashboards, are often the most effective visual you can useHow to talk about correlations and effect sizes in language a non-technical audience actually finds compellingWhere AI fits as a genuine assistant in writing, coding, and data visualization, and why the underlying skill still mattersMore from AJ:Website: ajthurston.comAdvanced resources (expectancy charts, predictive probabilities, dominance analysis): ajthurston.com/sfwLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ajthurstonTwitter/X: @ajthurstonEnjoying the ScienceForWork podcast? Follow the show, leave a review, and share this episode with a friend.ScienceForWork is an independent, non-profit foundation of evidence-based practitioners who want to #MakeWorkBetter.ScienceForWork.com
Most organizations invest heavily in culture. Very few understand what their culture is.Kyle Mack, PhD, is an industrial and organizational psychologist who spent years inside large-scale employee listening programs, reading what employees actually experience versus what their companies say is their culture. In this conversation, Kyle talks about how culture is not what you say. It's what your systems reward.In this episode:Why the gap between espoused and enacted culture is the default state, not the exceptionHow hiring, promotion, and performance management are your real culture, not your values deckWhy founder imprinting persists long after the founder is goneA practical framework for HR leaders to start closing the gapConnect with Kyle: cultureagent.aiFollow ScienceForWork: ScienceForWork.com
In this episode of the Science for Work podcast, Matt Lampe is joined by Patricia Grabarek and Katina Sawyer to talk about the critical role of leadership in shaping workplace wellness. Patricia and Katina, co-founders of Workr Beeing and authors of Leading for Wellness, explore the journey of writing the book and their commitment to translating research into practical tools for leaders. The conversation covers authenticity and vulnerability as the foundation of trust-based leadership, flexibility and work-life balance, how leaders can create microcultures of wellness even inside difficult organizations, and the role of person-centered planning in supporting employee mental health. They also discuss where they hope organizational practice and future research go next, including the case for investing in leaders rather than programs and taking a longer view on organizational performance.Resources:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workrbeeing/https://workrbeeing.com/ScienceForWork is an independent, non-profit foundation of evidence-based practitioners who want to #MakeWorkBetter. ScienceForWork.com
How do you lead well when the ground keeps moving?In this episode of the ScienceForWork podcast, host Matt Lampe talks with leadership coach Joshua Steinfeldt about what it looks like to lead through uncertainty.Drawing on positive psychology, contemplative science, and years of one-on-one work with leaders, Joshua brings together modern research and ancient wisdom in a way that's refreshingly practical for a moment that often feels anything but.Together, they explore:Equanimity as a leadership capacity, not just a meditation conceptThe role of the pause in agility and decision-makingWhat it means to be a secure base for the people you leadHow to hold both loss and new beginnings at the same timeThis episode is for leaders, coaches, and anyone feeling the weight of leading through change right now and looking for something worth carrying with them.Links: https://practicingcourage.com/The Courageous Life podcast (available wherever you listen)ScienceForWork is an independent, non-profit foundation of evidence-based practitioners who #MakeWorkBetter.ScienceForWork.com
Cole Napper returns to ScienceForWork as the newly appointed Chief People Intelligence Officer at HR Bench, and brings a provocative claim: people analytics is now a commodity, and what comes next is something he calls people intelligence.In this conversation, Cole and Matt explore:Why the four branches of HR data — people analytics, talent intelligence, workforce planning, and behavioral science — are collapsing into a single intelligence layerHow AI is forcing a rebuild of HR from first principles, and why large enterprises may face the steepest climbThe case for "tokenomics" as the next workforce planning challenge — and why hourly token cost vs. hourly human cost is closer than most leaders thinkWhat it means to do science when the field is changing faster than the research can keep upMore from Cole:Directionally Correct podcast: https://www.colenapper.com/podcastPeople Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset (book): https://www.colenapper.com/bookCole's site & newsletter: https://www.colenapper.comHR Bench: https://hrbench.comEnjoying ScienceForWork? Follow the show on Spotify and share this episode with a colleague who's thinking about the future of HR.ScienceForWork is an independent, non-profit foundation of evidence-based practitioners who #MakeWorkBetter.ScienceForWork.com